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I physically cannot create content on gemini without the ability to
insert ascii art of a rabbit arbitrarily in gemtext. I *demand* that
gemtext be amended to support both inline and standalone rabbits
posthaste. There is no humanly possible way for me to ever make anything
on gemini until this is implemented. It's not like I could be out
writing meaningful content on gemini instead of writing incessant emails
to the list, that's crazy talk.
The proposal:
A inline rabbit is indicated with the unicode string U+003a U+0072
U+0430 U+0062 U+0062 U+0069 U+03a4 U+003a (":r?bbi?:") appearing
anywhere on the line. Even though it is literally impossible for the
majority of users to type, who really types text out manually anymore?
Copying and pasting is the future.
A "standalone" rabbit is delimited by the unicode string U+003b U+0072
U+0430 U+0062 U+0069 U+03a4 U+003b (";r?bbi?;") appearing on it's own
line. Why is it different from an inline rabbit? Well gemtext isn't
designed to be easy to parse, it's not the spec writers' job to make it
easier on the developers. I've never ever written useful gemini software
myself, so it's not like it bothers me anyways!
What do you mean I can use stuff that already exists in gemini to add
ascii art of rabbits? The preformatted text block was really ambiguous
(i.e. I couldn't understand it), as it doesn't explain what
"preformatted" means, and I couldn't be bothered to look at the first
result on any search engine to find the meaning. Since I just don't like
the existing options, this MUST be implemented by all clients
immediately and the existing preformatted text toggles MUST be removed
from all implementations, because I never use them which means they are
useless.
Before you go crying with your worthless arguments like "it doesn't
provide provide enough benefit to justify the technical and manpower
cost of implementing it," it is important to not look at the technical
aspects of this. You're not supposed to look at the technical
considerations of implementing something when amending a fundamentally
technical internet protocol's formal specification, instead you should
look at the morals of it. On that front, if solderpunk doesn't
immediately add this change to the spec that means that he is
discriminating against everyone that likes rabbits, and that anyone who
gives well reasoned arguments on why this is a bad change will be judged
the same as hitler in the history books. Don't believe me? Look at this
random article that isn't even related to my argument in all but the
most surface level:
https://www.nytpu.com/files/really-really-really-really-really-really-long-url.html
An important thing to note before replying:
If anyone disagrees with me, instead of providing well reasoned
counterarguments I will instead resort to repeating already refuted
arguments, ad hominem, and by moving the goalposts. I will also
deliberately misunderstand and ignore your argument to make it easier
for me to strawman.
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On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 8:48 PM Alex // nytpu <alex at nytpu.com> wrote: > > I physically cannot create content on gemini without the ability to > insert ascii art of a rabbit arbitrarily in gemtext. I *demand* that > gemtext be amended to support both inline and standalone rabbits > posthaste. There is no humanly possible way for me to ever make anything > on gemini until this is implemented. It's not like I could be out > writing meaningful content on gemini instead of writing incessant emails > to the list, that's crazy talk. Greetings, I think this is a neat proposal. I too cannot function without cute, furry animals in my life. I added support for your rabbit spec to my gemini proxy server as a proof of concept: https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/mozz.us/files/rabbit_formatting.gmi Cheers! - Michael
> On Dec 15, 2020, at 02:48, Alex // nytpu <alex at nytpu.com> wrote: > > ascii art of a rabbit Fantastic. Would make PETA proud. Very inclusive and cuddly. Question: any special handling needed for The Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog?
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 06:48:26PM -0700, Alex // nytpu <alex at nytpu.com> wrote a message of 92 lines which said: > An important thing to note before replying: > If anyone disagrees with me, I won't. My mother told me not to feed the trolls (specially the ugly and stupid ones).
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> On Dec 15, 2020, at 09:05, K?vin <lists at gph.dk> wrote:
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> 450 4.7.1 Client host rejected: does not include enough cuddly
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Damn! Same!
Fixed:
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And that's exactly how to make people unsubscribe to the ML because of
too much useless noise, and to shrink even more the reputation of Gemini
community.
Congratulations.
Le 15/12/2020 ? 09:13, Petite Abeille a ?crit?:
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>> On Dec 15, 2020, at 09:05, K?vin <lists at gph.dk> wrote:
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>> 450 4.7.1 Client host rejected: does not include enough cuddly
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> Damn! Same!
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> Fixed:
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> On Dec 15, 2020, at 07:34, Michael Lazar <lazar.michael22 at gmail.com> wrote: > > https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/mozz.us/files/rabbit_formatting.gmi Genius. Isn't text/gemini mostly bunny friendly out-of-the-box though? What about a native bunny host name? ?.mozz.us Or perhaps a bunny friendly link? => gemini://?.mozz.us/?.gmi ?Hoppity hop?
> On Dec 15, 2020, at 09:31, Guy Godfroy <guy.godfroy at gugod.fr> wrote: > > shrink even more Indeed. So... IRI or URI? Inclusive or discriminatory? Bunnies or no bunnies? Such choices are not _solely_ technical. They are moral as well. Such holier-than-thou community should be able to make an informed choice in keeping with its own values. Or not.
15 Dec 2020 09:31:23 Guy Godfroy <guy.godfroy at gugod.fr>: > And that's exactly how to make people unsubscribe to the ML because of > too much useless noise, and to shrink even more the reputation of Gemini > community. > > Congratulations. Interesting, I wanted to unsubscribe for quite a while due to all the often rude technical back-and-forths and I found this quite pleasant and worth reading for a change. Silly things, banter and what people in these circles often call "offtopic" builds community, which is perhaps even more important than the endless technical details of the spec or software.
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> On Dec 15, 2020, at 10:06, Unicorn <unicorn at disroot.org> wrote:
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> Forgot the bunny, forgive me. Here's a seasonal one from Germany.
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> On Dec 15, 2020, at 02:48, Alex // nytpu <alex at nytpu.com> wrote: > > https://www.nytpu.com/files/really-really-really-really-really-really-long-url.html Tangentially unrelated: The Truth Is Paywalled But The Lies Are Free https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/08/the-truth-is-paywalled-but-the-lies-are-free/
> On Dec 15, 2020, at 08:56, Stephane Bortzmeyer <stephane at sources.org> wrote: > > I won't. My mother told me not to feed the trolls (specially the ugly and stupid ones). Let's not such triviality prevent us from enjoying some good reads! Consider the Hare https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n13/katherine-rundell/consider-the-hare ??
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