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The list of possible server software at <gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/software/> does not provide any details about their status, their features, their strengths and weaknesses. Choosing software for a server is therefore a long and tedious task. Is there a better list somewhere? I think that, for Gemini deployment, it would be better to have it, since newbies sysadmins may be discouraged by the very differente states of maturity of programs in the current list. After my (very incomplete) tests, I find that:
On 2020-12-02 (Wednesday) at 14:26, Stephane Bortzmeyer <stephane at sources.org> wrote: > The list of possible server software at > <gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/software/> does not provide any > details about their status, their features, their strengths and > weaknesses. Choosing software for a server is therefore a long and > tedious task. > > Is there a better list somewhere? I think that, for Gemini deployment, > it would be better to have it, since newbies sysadmins may be > discouraged by the very differente states of maturity of programs in > the current list. After my (very incomplete) tests, I find that: > There is https://github.com/kr1sp1n/awesome-gemini, which is one of those "Awesome" lists of curated software. I don't know how "curated" it is though --- but it might be a good place to start for a PR/fork. -- ~ acdw acdw.net | breadpunk.club/~breadw
On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 03:10:27PM +0000, acdw <acdw at acdw.net> wrote a message of 19 lines which said: > There is https://github.com/kr1sp1n/awesome-gemini, which is one of > those "Awesome" lists of curated software. I don't know how > "curated" it is though It seems that the one-liners describing the programs are just taken verbatim from the official descriptions of each program. Shavit, for instance, is unusable for an Internet server since it binds to localhost and this is hardwired in the source code but this important restriction does not appear in the list.
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On 2 December 2020 9:56:39 pm IST, Stephane Bortzmeyer <stephane at sources.org> wrote: >On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 03:10:27PM +0000, > acdw <acdw at acdw.net> wrote > a message of 19 lines which said: > >> There is https://github.com/kr1sp1n/awesome-gemini, which is one of >> those "Awesome" lists of curated software. I don't know how >> "curated" it is though > >It seems that the one-liners describing the programs are just taken >verbatim from the official descriptions of each program. Shavit, for >instance, is unusable for an Internet server since it binds to >localhost and this is hardwired in the source code but this important >restriction does not appear in the list. >It seems that the one-liners describing the programs are just taken >verbatim from the official descriptions of each program. Maybe open an issue discussing how this is an opportunity to present servers in a manner that makes picking them easier for end-users. The list as a whole is quite barebones but if somebody has a vision of what it could be then maybe it could be shaped up to be that? ? Lokesh Krishna
On 2020-12-02 (Wednesday) at 19:30, Lokesh Krishna <lokesh at low-key.me> wrote: > > On 2 December 2020 9:56:39 pm IST, Stephane Bortzmeyer > <stephane at sources.org> wrote: > > >It seems that the one-liners describing the programs are just taken > >verbatim from the official descriptions of each program. Shavit, for > >instance, is unusable for an Internet server since it binds to > >localhost and this is hardwired in the source code but this important > >restriction does not appear in the list. > > >It seems that the one-liners describing the programs are just taken > >verbatim from the official descriptions of each program. > > Maybe open an issue discussing how this is an opportunity to present > servers in a manner that makes picking them easier for end-users. > > The list as a whole is quite barebones but if somebody has a vision of > what it could be then maybe it could be shaped up to be that? > ? Lokesh Krishna > Right, I just linked to it as a resource I knew about, so you wouldn't have to start from scratch. AFAIK nothing really comprehensive exists, just this list. -- ~ acdw acdw.net | breadpunk.club/~breadw
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 12:03:38AM +0500, Timur Ismagilov <bouncepaw2 at yandex.ru> wrote a message of 1 lines which said: > See the Servers page on the Gemini wiki. > > => https://transjovian.org:1965/gemini/page/Servers But it does not offer more than <gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/software/>. Same list and no more curation.
But it's a wiki and you can edit it, that's the point. Community curation is cool!
>>> There is https://github.com/kr1sp1n/awesome-gemini, which is one of >>> those "Awesome" lists of curated software. I don't know how >>> "curated" it is though >> >>It seems that the one-liners describing the programs are just taken >>verbatim from the official descriptions of each program. Shavit, for >>instance, is unusable for an Internet server since it binds to >>localhost and this is hardwired in the source code but this important >>restriction does not appear in the list. > >>It seems that the one-liners describing the programs are just taken >>verbatim from the official descriptions of each program. > > Maybe open an issue discussing how this is an opportunity to present servers in > a manner that makes picking them easier for end-users. I'd like to second that: jump in and start a discussion if this list could be developed into a "curated list". I think it's important to approach such a list as a community effort. Things have to be tested and facts compiled to a comprehensive list, i don't see how this could work longterm if it's crafted by a single person only. kind regards Ren?
On Thu Dec 3, 2020 at 3:36 AM EST, Timur Ismagilov wrote: > But it's a wiki and you can edit it, that's the point. Community > curation i= > s cool! > If it's a wiki then that is awesome, and as you said able to be edited by the community. Also, I noticed Jetforce was not mentioned as an option. It's a pretty good and easy to setup server software. Jordan
On 2020-12-02 20:03, Timur Ismagilov wrote: > See the Servers page on the Gemini wiki. > > => https://transjovian.org:1965/gemini/page/Servers > It seems there was an article on Wikipedia, too; still maintained as Draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gemini_(protocol)
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