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I thought it could be nice to show some examples rendered
with Sympy.
With unicode:
pprint(Integral(sqrt((1+x)/(x**2+3)),x)+Sum(1/j**2,(j,1,n)))
n
____
? ?
? ________ ? 1
? ? x + 1 ? ??
? ? ?????? dx + ? 2
? ? 2 ? j
? ?? x + 3 ?
? ????
j = 1
With ascii:
pprint(Integral(sqrt((1+x)/(x**2+3)),x)+Sum(1/j**2,(j,1,n)), use_unicode=False)
n
/ ____
| \ `
| ________ \ 1
| / x + 1 \ --
| / ------ dx + / 2
| / 2 / j
| \/ x + 3 /___,
| j = 1
/
By comparison, the LaTeX text could be
\int{\sqrt{\frac{x+1}{x^2+3}}dx+\sum_{j=1}^n\frac{1}{j^2}
which I don't have a problem reading it, but... for non-LaTeX users...
Finally, an example of a graphic:
plot(sin(x),(x,-2*pi,2*pi))
0.99830 | ... ...
| / \ / \
| / . / .
| . .
| . .
| . .
| . .
| . .
0.05872 | -------------.--------------------------.--------------
| . . . . /
| . .
| . .
| . .
| . .
| . .
| . / . /
| \ / \ /
-0.9983 | ... ...
-6.28319 0 6.28319
In this case we seem to get the same result with ascii and unicode,
or maybe Sympy does not distinguish for plotting, although both
pprint(plot(sin(x),(x,-2*pi,2*pi)),use_unicode=False)
and
pprint(plot(sin(x),(x,-2*pi,2*pi)))
seem to be accepted by Sympy.
Is this enough for math & data? What do you think?
Wow! These look amazing on the terminal. I am not quote-replying as I don't want to mess with the beautiful monospace rendering. I would love to read a maths/science/CS related blog that uses this kind of rendering. This is so pleasant to look at on both a terminal and a GUI client. I hope someone will take the time to write either a latex-to-gemtext compiler that can generate this, or a server that does it dynamically. -- Leo
Leo <list at gkbrk.com> writes: > Wow! These look amazing on the terminal. I am not quote-replying as I > don't want to mess with the beautiful monospace rendering. > > I would love to read a maths/science/CS related blog that uses this > kind of rendering. This is so pleasant to look at on both a terminal and > a GUI client. > > I hope someone will take the time to write either a latex-to-gemtext > compiler that can generate this, or a server that does it dynamically. I agree. To fluxion, I would remind you that the text/gemini format is meant to be served as Unicode by default, so if you were to simply stick those result graphics in a preformatted (```) block, they should look great in any gemini client. Thanks for the examples with Sympy. Very inspiring indeed! Happy hacking, Gary -- GPG Key ID: 7BC158ED Use `gpg --search-keys lambdatronic' to find me Protect yourself from surveillance: https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org ======================================================================= () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Why is HTML email a security nightmare? See https://useplaintext.email/ Please avoid sending me MS-Office attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 19:08:39 +0100 fluxion <fluxion at monocles.de> wrote: > I thought it could be nice to show some examples rendered > with Sympy. I have only one question: how will screen readers handle this?
raingloom <raingloom at riseup.net> writes:
> I have only one question: how will screen readers handle this?
Probably very badly. Which is why I'm somewhat critical of using fixed
format blocks for ASCII art.
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On November 9, 2020 6:05:41 PM EST, Jason McBrayer <jmcbray at carcosa.net> wrote:
>raingloom <raingloom at riseup.net> writes:
>
>> I have only one question: how will screen readers handle this?
>
>Probably very badly. Which is why I'm somewhat critical of using fixed
>format blocks for ASCII art.
>Anything which comes after the ``` characters of a line which toggles
preformatted line *on* (i.e. the first, third, fifth, etc. toggling lines
in a document) may be treated as "alt text" for the preformatted content.
gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/gemtext.gmi
Like
```ascii art READERS are LEADERS, which my parents used to tell me
whenever I wasn't reading a book.
_ _ . _ _ _ _
|_) |_ /_\ | \ |_ |_) \
| \ |_ / \ |_/ |_ | \ _\
ARE
_ . _ _ _ _
| |_ /_\ | \ |_ |_) \
|__ |_ / \ |_/ |_ | \ _\
```
> On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:44 PM, raingloom <raingloom at riseup.net> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 19:08:39 +0100
> fluxion <fluxion at monocles.de> wrote:
>
>> I thought it could be nice to show some examples rendered
>> with Sympy.
>
> I have only one question: how will screen readers handle this?
Here?s how I would do it:
```An equation of two terms. They?re added together. The first term is an
integral with respect to dx. It?s of the square root of a single fraction.
The numerator of the fraction is x plus 1. The denominator of the fraction
is x squared plus 3. The second term is a summation. It starts at j equals
1 and goes to n. It sums up 1 divided by j squared.
n
____
? ?
? ________ ? 1
? ? x + 1 ? ??
? ? ?????? dx + ? 2
? ? 2 ? j
? ?? x + 3 ?
? ????
j = 1
```
It?s been a long time since I?ve heard anyone talk college-level math
aloud and you _definitely_ shouldn?t trust how I read the first term
aloud, but this is roughly how I?d put it on my capsule.
> Here?s how I would do it: > > ```An equation of two terms. They?re added together. The first term is an integral with respect to dx. It?s of the square root of a single fraction. The numerator of the fraction is x plus 1. The denominator of the fraction is x squared plus 3. The second term is a summation. It starts at j equals 1 and goes to n. It sums up 1 divided by j squared. > n > ____ > ? ? > ? ________ ? 1 > ? ? x + 1 ? ?? > ? ? ?????? dx + ? 2 > ? ? 2 ? j > ? ?? x + 3 ? > ? ???? > j = 1 > ``` > > It?s been a long time since I?ve heard anyone talk college-level math aloud and you _definitely_ shouldn?t trust how I read the first term aloud, but this is roughly how I?d put it on my capsule. +1 Nicely done. -- GPG Key ID: 7BC158ED Use `gpg --search-keys lambdatronic' to find me Protect yourself from surveillance: https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org ======================================================================= () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Why is HTML email a security nightmare? See https://useplaintext.email/ Please avoid sending me MS-Office attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > > > ```An equation of two terms. They?re added together. The first term is an integral with respect to dx. It?s of the square root of a single fraction. The numerator of the fraction is x plus 1. The denominator of the fraction is x squared plus 3. The second term is a summation. It starts at j equals 1 and goes to n. It sums up 1 divided by j squared. > > n > > ____ > > ? ? > > ? ________ ? 1 > > ? ? x + 1 ? ?? > > ? ? ?????? dx + ? 2 > > ? ? 2 ? j > > ? ?? x + 3 ? > > ? ???? > > j = 1 > > ``` > > > > It?s been a long time since I?ve heard anyone talk college-level math aloud and you _definitely_ shouldn?t trust how I read the first term aloud, but this is roughly how I?d put it on my capsule. > > +1 Nicely done. > I also love this. Sometimes we are blind to the most simple and nice way of doing something. Thanks!
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