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[apologies if this is duped, I fear my mail client was sending html and the message got dropped by the listserv] Hi all, What an amazing and inspiring community I've stumbled upon. I've long been lamenting the idea that a web browser now takes somewhere around a billion dollars to build. So when I came across gemini I had to try out it's promise of being able to build a client with low effort. So I picked up flutter and the protocol spec and made a gemini browser; deedum. This is really cool to me cause I probably spent less than 16hours on it, mostly fighting fixed width font rendering in flutter and it's also my first real app. It's awaiting review in the android playstore, and I'll be trying to get it building for iOS and into the app store. I'll also look into what it takes to get on fdroid. Here's the repo https://github.com/snoe/deedum If anyone wants to jump in you are more than welcome! A couple things I ran into: It's missing client certs, its not clear to me if they actually should be transient or just fully user managed. They have cool potential though! Some sites don't seem to close the socket after sending a response, this could be me doing something wrong but gemini://mozz.us:1965/journal/ is one example of such a site. `ncat --ssl -c "cat test.gmi" ...` is great for testing, and also proves what a great idea gemini is. Thanks! Case Email domain proudly hosted at migadu.com -- Email domain proudly hosted at https://migadu.com
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 06:58:44AM +0000, me at case.codes wrote: > [apologies if this is duped, I fear my mail client was sending html and the message got dropped by > the listserv] It didn't get dropped, but goodness, what a relief to get a plaintext version! :) > It's awaiting review in the android playstore, and I'll be trying to get it building for iOS and > into the app store. I'll also look into what it takes to get on fdroid. That would be just wonderful! There is so far only one other Android client to my knowledge, and it's not yet in either of those places. It's also a little out of date now, with a few spec changes having happened since it was made. A more recent Android client available from F-Droid would make me very happy. > It's missing client certs, its not clear to me if they actually should be transient or just fully > user managed. They have cool potential though! The spec will hopefully be a bit clearer on that front quite soon. But I still think people writing new clients now would be making an entirely rational decision to not bother wading into the client cert thing until some more established conventional workflows have been settled on. It's the most "under development" part of the whole thing by far at this point, and they are also not necessary to view 99% of what's currently in Geminispace, so there is no need to rush into supporting them. Cheers, Solderpunk
Awesome work! I personally decided against using a cross-platform frameworks for my iOS client (source here https://github.com/pitr/gemini-ios), since I've never used them before. Once you get to iOS submission to the app store, feel free to reach out, as it was not quite straight forward for my app to get approved even for beta testing in Testflight. On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 8:58 AM <me at case.codes> wrote: > > [apologies if this is duped, I fear my mail client was sending html and the message got dropped by > the listserv] > > Hi all, > > What an amazing and inspiring community I've stumbled upon. > > I've long been lamenting the idea that a web browser now takes somewhere around a billion dollars > to build. So when I came across gemini I had to try out it's promise of being able to build a > client with low effort. > > So I picked up flutter and the protocol spec and made a gemini browser; deedum. This is really cool > to me cause I probably spent less than 16hours on it, mostly fighting fixed width font rendering in > flutter and it's also my first real app. > > It's awaiting review in the android playstore, and I'll be trying to get it building for iOS and > into the app store. I'll also look into what it takes to get on fdroid. > > Here's the repo > > https://github.com/snoe/deedum > > If anyone wants to jump in you are more than welcome! > > A couple things I ran into: > > It's missing client certs, its not clear to me if they actually should be transient or just fully > user managed. They have cool potential though! > > Some sites don't seem to close the socket after sending a response, this could be me doing > something wrong but gemini://mozz.us:1965/journal/ is one example of such a site. > > `ncat --ssl -c "cat test.gmi" ...` is great for testing, and also proves what a great idea gemini > is. > > Thanks! > Case > > Email domain proudly hosted at migadu.com > > -- Email domain proudly hosted at https://migadu.com >
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 06:58:44 +0000 me at case.codes wrote: > It's awaiting review in the android playstore, and I'll be trying to > get it building for iOS and into the app store. I'll also look into > what it takes to get on fdroid. I'm glad to hear about this, and I'd love to be able to install deedum via fdroid. -- Matthew Graybosch gemini://starbreaker.org #include <disclaimer.h> gemini://demifiend.org https://matthewgraybosch.com gemini://tanelorn.city "Out of order?! Even in the future nothing works."
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 06:58:44AM +0000, me at case.codes wrote: > It's awaiting review in the android playstore, and I'll be trying to get it building for iOS and > into the app store. I'll also look into what it takes to get on fdroid. I was pleased to find just now that Deedum is, indeed, available in the Playstore! This is quite a big step in making mobile Gemini browsing widely accessible, thanks a lot! Cheers, Solderpunk
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