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Long time listener, first time caller... I just stood up my own Gemini space to publish my writing on user sovereignty, decentralization and privacy. You can find it here: gemini://vi.rs I'm using Let's Encrypt TLS certs with a modified Pollux. I've been watching the Gemini project for months now and I like where it is headed. I chose to publish using only Gemini because it is the closest user-sovereign publishing system we have ATM. The only problem now is that lots of people have asked me what they can download and run to read my Gemini "mission log". There aren't any precompiled packages or installers so I've been having them ssh to kiosk to run the VP client. Is anybody planning to publish packages/installers anytime soon? I've had several thousand hits on my Gemini space in the last couple of days despite the hurdles for getting onto Gemini. Castor is hosted on sr.ht that has CI capabilities. I'm familiar with setting up CI builds on Github but not on sr.ht. Does anybody know how to set that up and is willing to send a patch to the maintainer of Castor? Cheers! Dave
On 20/05/07 03:24PM, Dave Huseby wrote: > Long time listener, first time caller... > > I just stood up my own Gemini space to publish my writing on user sovereignty, decentralization and privacy. You can find it here: gemini://vi.rs I'm using Let's Encrypt TLS certs with a modified Pollux. I've been watching the Gemini project for months now and I like where it is headed. I chose to publish using only Gemini because it is the closest user-sovereign publishing system we have ATM. > > The only problem now is that lots of people have asked me what they can download and run to read my Gemini "mission log". There aren't any precompiled packages or installers so I've been having them ssh to kiosk to run the VP client. Is anybody planning to publish packages/installers anytime soon? I've had several thousand hits on my Gemini space in the last couple of days despite the hurdles for getting onto Gemini. Castor is hosted on sr.ht that has CI capabilities. I'm familiar with setting up CI builds on Github but not on sr.ht. Does anybody know how to set that up and is willing to send a patch to the maintainer of Castor? > > Cheers! > Dave Can't answer your specific question since I've only written a server not a client, but I figured I'd chime in. I'm somewhat familiar with packaging stuff using OpenSuse's OpenBuildSystem which can spit out rpms, debs, etc pretty easily. If anyone wants their client/server packaged but doesn't know how I'm more than happy to help out and get that ball rolling. -Steve
Howdy! FWIW I had a very pleasant experience with Asuka client. It has no package available for download but it's in Rust and can be built by a relatively unskilled person. Some documentation on how one would build it is missing but I'm sure this is something that can be remedied without much effort. Instruction pretty much boils down to: 1. Run rustup 2. Get the code 3. Run cargo build 4. Done. The undocumented part is between 2 and 3:
On 5/8/20 12:24 AM, Dave Huseby wrote: > You can find it here: gemini://vi.rs I'm using Let's Encrypt TLS certs with a modified Pollux. Cool place! Funny to see someone using Pollux besides me! > Castor is hosted on sr.ht that has CI capabilities. I'm familiar with setting up CI builds on Github but not on sr.ht. Does anybody know how to set that up and is willing to send a patch to the maintainer of Castor? I'm the maintainer of Asuka and Castor. Providing packages is something I definitely want to do. I'll be looking into OpenBuildSystem this looks very neat!
Hi Dave, This is a good point to raise. I guess prior to the recent influx of interest from Hacker News and other places, we've been able to somewhat ignore this, because most of the consumers of Gemini content have also been active community members who have the skills, interest and time to get their client(s) of choice up and running. But lowering the barrier to entry will be important for wider adoption. I can't promise anything, but I'll make an effort to push out a 1.0.0 release of AV-98 tomorrow (cue anguished cries from people in Gopherspace who have been waiting years for a 1.0.0 release of VF-1!), and as part of that I'll upload it to PyPI - that means a simple `pip install` will be able to get people started. Admittedly a command-line client isn't going to be an easy intro for a lot of people, but it will work for many, and to be honest I'm not sure the project is necessarily ready for thousands of new users in a short time span yet. But some extra energy - and especially content! - would definitely be very welcome. Cheers, Solderpunk On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 03:24:32PM -0700, Dave Huseby wrote: > Long time listener, first time caller... > > I just stood up my own Gemini space to publish my writing on user sovereignty, decentralization and privacy. You can find it here: gemini://vi.rs I'm using Let's Encrypt TLS certs with a modified Pollux. I've been watching the Gemini project for months now and I like where it is headed. I chose to publish using only Gemini because it is the closest user-sovereign publishing system we have ATM. > > The only problem now is that lots of people have asked me what they can download and run to read my Gemini "mission log". There aren't any precompiled packages or installers so I've been having them ssh to kiosk to run the VP client. Is anybody planning to publish packages/installers anytime soon? I've had several thousand hits on my Gemini space in the last couple of days despite the hurdles for getting onto Gemini. Castor is hosted on sr.ht that has CI capabilities. I'm familiar with setting up CI builds on Github but not on sr.ht. Does anybody know how to set that up and is willing to send a patch to the maintainer of Castor? > > Cheers! > Dave
Hi Dave, Funny to see this on the mailing list this morning as I was reading through your work just last night. Really great stuff! I cannot speak for the other client maintainers, but I can give some info for my client (Bombadillo): All major and minor versions, but not patch versions, are available as pre-compiled binaries from the website or gopher (bombadillo.colorfield.space in either case), for Linux-32, Linux-64, OSX-64, and I believe we have a BSD build up as well but do not quote me on that (we do not support Windows at present). I was told someone has a build up in the Arch AUR as well. I am not an Arch user and have not been able to verify what version they are at or if they are actively maintaining it. I would love to see it packaged for other distros. Steve, in a response to the OP, mentions OpenSuse having a good build system. I may have to look into that. I'm not sure I have the time to devote to maintaining the codebase as well as packaging for multiple distros, but I'd definitely give it a try for at least Debian. I may wait until the next minor release as I have some gemini-specific improvements that should be releasing in the near future. I'd love any advice people have re: packaging as I am very new to trying to do so (I usually just build everything from source when possible). As far as building goes, for those users with the desire to try, Bombadillo will compile with a Go compiler for 1.11 or newer. It uses no packages outside of the standard library and comes with a makefile (sudo make install, and you should be good to go). --? Sent with https://mailfence.com Secure and private email
Dave Huseby writes: > Long time listener, first time caller... > > I just stood up my own Gemini space to publish my writing on user sovereignty, decentralization and privacy. You can find it here: gemini://vi.rs I'm using Let's Encrypt TLS certs with a modified Pollux. I've been watching the Gemini project for months now and I like where it is headed. I chose to publish using only Gemini because it is the closest user-sovereign publishing system we have ATM. > > The only problem now is that lots of people have asked me what they can download and run to read my Gemini "mission log". There aren't any precompiled packages or installers so I've been having them ssh to kiosk to run the VP client. Is anybody planning to publish packages/installers anytime soon? I've had several thousand hits on my Gemini space in the last couple of days despite the hurdles for getting onto Gemini. Castor is hosted on sr.ht that has CI capabilities. I'm familiar with setting up CI builds on Github but not on sr.ht. Does anybody know how to set that up and is willing to send a patch to the maintainer of Castor? > > Cheers! > Dave
Hi Dave, Dave Huseby writes: > Is anybody planning to publish packages/installers anytime soon? For what it's worth, my emacs-based client elpher is available from the MELPA repository. So, for emacs users at least, installation is as simple as "M-x package-install RET elpher RET". Cheers, Tim -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 487 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/attachments/20200511/0a91 de66/attachment.sig>
Hello, I got here from Hacker News in the beginning of the month. Brian Evans <b__m__e at mailfence.com> wrote: > I was told someone has a build up in the Arch AUR as well. I am not an > Arch user and have not been able to verify what version they are at or if > they are actively maintaining it. > The package in the Arch User Repository has not been updated since it was first submitted. I installed bombadillo that way on my laptop just now and it was painless for an AUR package. It didn't like my server's certificate, but other servers were fine. The package details: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/bombadillo-git -- Katarina > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/attachments/20200511/9abb 879f/attachment.htm>
> The package in the Arch User Repository has not been updated since it was first submitted Just to clarify, the AUR pkg that's been linked is a git package, which means that it just pulls from git everytime you install or update it. So it's okay that it "hasn't been updated". makeworld ??????? Original Message ??????? On Monday, May 11, 2020 1:15 PM, Katarina Eriksson <gmym at coopdot.com> wrote: > Hello, I got here from Hacker News in the beginning of the month. > > Brian Evans <b__m__e at mailfence.com> wrote: > > > I was told someone has a build up in the Arch AUR as well. I am not an Arch user and have not been able to verify what version they are at or if they are actively maintaining it. > > The package in the Arch User Repository has not been updated since it was first submitted. I installed bombadillo that way on my laptop just now and it was painless for an AUR package. It didn't like my server's certificate, but other servers were fine. > > The package details: > > https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/bombadillo-git > > --? > Katarina > > >
On 11 May 2020, at 7:15 pm +0200, Katarina Eriksson wrote: > Brian Evans <b__m__e at mailfence.com> wrote: > > I was told someone has a build up in the Arch AUR as well. I am not an > > Arch user and have not been able to verify what version they are at or if > > they are actively maintaining it. > The package in the Arch User Repository has not been updated since it was > first submitted. I installed bombadillo that way on my laptop just now and > it was painless for an AUR package. It didn't like my server's certificate, > but other servers were fine. Hey, folks, I'm new here, too. Gemini seems awesome! The way -git (and -hg, et al.) build scripts work in the AUR (which doesn't contain any packages: it's a repository of build scripts you can use to build Arch packages) is that the only time they need to get updated on the site is if the build instructions change. When a user builds the package with Arch's packaging tools, the latest git (or whatever) is automagically fetched from the repository listed in the $source variable in the PKGBUILD, and the version of their newly-built local package is updated to reflect that. Cheers, Ivy
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