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History of Tumbleweed Upgrades

Success: 300 | Skipped: 9 | Rollbacks: 4 | Regressions: 16 |

Hi, here I keep a list of successful and failing Tumbleweed updates. The aim is to have a history log about how stable TW is. I will count the number of successful updates and the number of regressions. An update counts as successful, if the system boots and no major havoc is detected. Regressions are minor glitches, if individual (non-critical) parts of the system broke. The difference between the two, is that a failed update forces me to do a rollback, while regressions allow me still to do my daily work.

Snapshots are not released every day, and neither is my laptop on every single day. This is the reason, why there will be date holes. So, full disclosure: This page serves more of a personal log to allow me track how well Tumbleweed performs and not as a complete testing report about the stability of Tumbleweed updates a a whole.

Updates are grouped in blocks of 10 items.

Regressions are listed with their reference to the corresponding ticket on bugzilla.opensuse.org. For instance, boo#1234567 refers to https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1234567

20220204 to 20220205: OK
20220205 to 20220206: OK
20220206 to 20220207: OK
20220207 to 20220212: OK
20220212 to 20220213: OK
20220213 to 20220214: OK
20220214 to 20220215: OK
20220215 to 20220218: OK
20220218 to 20220219: OK
20220219 to 20220221: OK

20220221 to 20220222: OK
20220222 to 20220223: OK
20220223 to 20220226: OK
20220226 to 20220228: OK
20220228 to 20220301: OK
20220301 to 20220302: OK
20220302 to 20220305: OK
20220305 to 20220306: OK
20220306 to 20220307: OK
20220307 to 20220308: OK

20220308 to 20220309: OK
20220309 to 20220313: OK
20220313 to 20220314: OK
20220314 to 20220316: OK
20220316 to 20220319: OK
20220319 to 20220320: OK
20220320 to 20220321: OK
20220321 to 20220322: OK
20220322 to 20220323: OK
20220323 to 20220324: OK

20220324 to 20220402: OK
20220402 to 20220403: OK
20220403 to 20220404: OK
20220404 to 20220405: OK
20220405 to 20220406: OK
20220406 to 20220409: REG boo#1198718 (Started as boo#1198309)
20220409 to 20220410: OK
20220410 to 20220411: OK
20220411 to 20220412: OK
20220412 to 20220413: OK

20220413 to 20220415: OK
20220415 to 20220419: OK
20220419 to 20220420: OK
20220420 to 20220423: OK (fixes boo#1198718)
20220423 to 20220424: OK
20220424 to 20220426: OK
20220426 to 20220427: OK
20220427 to 20220428: OK
20220428 to 20220501: OK
20220501 to 20220502: OK

20220502 to 20220506: OK
20220506 to 20220507: OK
20220507 to 20220509: OK
20220509 to 20220513: OK (gcc update, 4758 packages to be installed)
20220513 to 20220515: OK
20220515 to 20220516: OK
20220516 to 20220517: OK
20220517 to 20220518: OK
20220518 to 20220521: OK
20220521 to 20220523: OK

20220523 to 20220525: REG boo#1199924
20220525 to 20220605: OK
20220605 to 20220606: OK
20220606 to 20220607: OK
20220607 to 20220608: OK
20220608 to 20220611: OK
20220611 to 20220612: OK
20220612 to 20220613: OK
20220613 to 20220618: OK (big update, 4546 packages due to -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3)
20220618 to 20220619: OK

20220619 to 20220622: OK
20220622 to 20220625: OK
20220625 to 20220626: OK
20220626 to 20220627: OK
20220627 to 20220628: OK
20220628 to 20220702: OK
20220702 to 20220704: OK (removal of tlp)
20220704 to 20220705: OK
20220705 to 20220708: OK
20220708 to 20220710: OK

20220710 to 20220711: OK
20220711 to 20220712: OK
20220712 to 20220713: OK
20220713 to 20220714: SKIP (boo#1201740)
20220713 to 20220718: SKIP (boo#1201740)
20220713 to 20220719: SKIP (boo#1201740)
20220719 to 20220801: OK
20220801 to 20220802: OK
20220802 to 20220806: OK
20220806 to 20220807: OK

20220807 to 20220808: OK
20220808 to 20220809: OK
20220809 to 20220810: OK
20220810 to 20220813: OK
20220813 to 20220814: OK
20220814 to 20220815: OK
20220815 to 20220816: OK
20220816 to 20220817: OK
20220817 to 20220820: OK
20220820 to 20220821: OK

20220821 to 20220822: OK
20220822 to 20220823: OK
20220823 to 20220824: OK
20220824 to 20220827: OK
20220827 to 20220828: OK
20220828 to 20220829: OK
20220829 to 20220903: OK (glibc update, 5451 packages to update)
20220903 to 20220904: OK
20220904 to 20220905: OK
20220905 to 20220910: OK

20220910 to 20220911: OK
20220911 to 20220912: OK
20220912 to 20220913: OK
20220913 to 20220914: OK
20220914 to 20220917: OK
20220917 to 20220918: OK
20220918 to 20220919: OK
20220919 to 20220920: REG (boo#1203689)
20220920 to 20220921: OK (gnome update to 42, gnome-pomodoro complains)
20220921 to 20220923: OK (gnome-pomodoro fixed)

20220923 to 20220925: OK
20220925 to 20220926: OK
20220926 to 20220928: REG (conflict with libQt5Core.so.5)
20220926 to 20220930: OK
20220930 to 20221001: REG (boo#1203967)
20220930 to 20221003: REG (boo#1203967) - counted as skipped
20221003 to 20221004: OK (fixes boo#1203967)
20221004 to 20221008: REG (Installation of kernel-firmware-qcom-20220930-1.1.noarch failed: Subprocess failed)
20221008 to 20221012: OK
20221012 to 20221015: OK

20221015 to 20221016: OK
20221016 to 20221017: OK
20221017 to 20221018: OK
20221018 to 20221019: OK
20221019 to 20221022: OK
20221022 to 20221023: OK
20221023 to 20221024: OK
20221024 to 20221025: OK
20221025 to 20221026: OK
20221026 to 20221029: OK

20221029 to 20221030: OK
20221030 to 20221031: OK
20221031 to 20221108: SKIP - libQt5Network.so.5 (and others) missing
20221108 to 20221109: OK
20221109 to 20221112: OK
20221112 to 20221113: OK
20221113 to 20221114: OK
20221114 to 20221115: OK
20221115 to 20221116: OK
20221116 to 20221119: OK

20221119 to 20221120: OK
20221120 to 20221121: OK
20221121 to 20221122: OK
20221122 to 20221123: OK
20221123 to 20221127: OK
20221127 to 20221128: OK
20221128 to 20221130: OK
20221130 to 20221203: OK
20221203 to 20221204: OK
20221204 to 20221205: OK

20221205 to 20221206: OK
20221206 to 20221210: OK
20221210 to 20221211: OK
20221211 to 20221212: OK
20221212 to 20221213: OK
20221213 to 20221214: OK
20221214 to 20221217: OK
20221217 to 20221218: OK
20221218 to 20221219: OK
20221219 to 20221220: OK

20221220 to 20221221: OK
20221221 to 20221225: OK
20221225 to 20221226: OK
20221226 to 20221227: OK
20221227 to 20221231: OK
20221231 to 20230101: OK
20230101 to 20230102: OK
20230102 to 20230103: OK
20230103 to 20230107: OK
20230107 to 20230108: OK

20230108 to 20230109: OK
20230109 to 20230110: OK
20230110 to 20230111: OK
20230111 to 20230114: OK
20230114 to 20230115: OK
20230115 to 20230116: OK
20230116 to 20230117: OK
20230117 to 20230118: OK
20230118 to 20230119: OK
20230119 to 20230122: OK

20230122 to 20230123: OK
20230123 to 20230124: OK
20230124 to 20230125: OK
20230125 to 20230128: OK
20230128 to 20230129: OK
20230129 to 20230130: OK
20230130 to 20230131: OK
20230131 to 20230201: OK
20230201 to 20230204: REG (Installation conflict in openSSL, many affected. Removal of openssl-devel was suggested)
20230204 to 20230205: OK

20230205 to 20230206: OK
20230206 to 20230207: OK
20230207 to 20230208: OK
20230208 to 20230211: OK
20230211 to 20230212: OK
20230212 to 20230213: OK
20230213 to 20230214: OK
20230214 to 20230215: OK
20230215 to 20230218: OK
20230218 to 20230219: OK

20230219 to 20230220: OK
20230220 to 20230221: OK
20230221 to 20230222: OK

Reported to Reddit and Blog (201 success, 5 skipped, 6 reg)

20230222 to 20230226: OK (but one failed reboot, Kernel was stuck. Hard-reset resolved the issue)
20230226 to 20230227: OK
20230227 to 20230228: OK
20230228 to 20230304: OK
20230304 to 20230306: OK (+patterns-glibc-hwcaps-x86_64_v3)
20230306 to 20230307: OK
20230307 to 20230311: OK
20230311 to 20230312: OK
20230312 to 20230313: REG (Kubernetes package issue, boo#1209249)
20230313 to 20230315: OK

20230315 to 20230318: SKIP (qt dependency issues)
20230318 to 20230319: SKIP (qt dependency issues)

Note: Happy to have the recent snapshots skipped and thus avoided bsc#1209618

20230319 to 20230321: OK
20230321 to 20230325: REG (bsc#1209791)
20230325 to 20230326: REG (bsc#1209818)
20230326 to 20230327: OK
20230327 to 20230329: OK
20230329 to 20230331: OK
20230331 to 20230402: OK
20230402 to 20230403: OK

20230403 to 20230404: OK
20230404 to 20230405: OK
20230405 to 20230409: OK
20230409 to 20230415: OK
20230415 to 20230416: OK
20230416 to 20230417: REG (boo#1210654)
20230417 to 20230418: OK
20230418 to 20230419: OK
20230419 to 20230424: OK
20230424 to 20230425: OK

20230425 to 20230429: OK
20230429 to 20230430: OK
20230430 to 20230501: OK
20230501 to 20230502: OK
20230502 to 20230503: OK (fixes boo#1210654)
20230503 to 20230506: REG (boo#1211177)
20230506 to 20230507: OK
20230507 to 20230508: OK
20230508 to 20230509: OK
20230509 to 20230510: OK

20230510 to 20230513: OK
20230513 to 20230514: OK
20230514 to 20230515: OK
20230515 to 20230522: OK
20230522 to 20230527: OK
20230527 to 20230529: OK
20230529 to 20230530: OK
20230530 to 20230531: OK
20230531 to 20230603: OK
20230603 to 20230604: OK

20230604 to 20230605: OK
20230605 to 20230610: OK
20230610 to 20230612: REG with virtualization (boo#1212396 and bsc#1212195)
20230612 to 20230613: OK
20230613 to 20230624: OK
20230624 to 20230625: OK
20230625 to 20230626: OK
20230626 to 20230627: OK
20230627 to 20230628: OK
20230628 to 20230629: OK

20230629 to 20230701: OK
20230701 to 20230703: OK
20230703 to 20230704: OK
20230704 to 20230705: OK
20230705 to 20230716: OK
20230716 to 20230717: OK
20230717 to 20230718: OK (many Perl dependencies outdated, boo#1214057)
20230718 to 20230719: OK (still Perl dependency issues)
20230719 to 20230724: OK (still Perl dependency issues)
20230724 to 20230729: OK (still Perl dependency issues)

20230729 to 20230730: OK (still Perl dependency issues)
20230730 to 20230731: OK (still Perl dependency issues)
20230731 to 20230801: REG (still Perl dependency issues, now counting as regression due the long time)
20230801 to 20230802: Rollback due to boo#1213973
20230802 to 20230805: Rollback due to boo#1213973 (not counted)
20230802 to 20230806: Rollback due to boo#1213973 (not counted)
20230802 to 20230812: REG (boo#1213973 resolved by switching from Evolution to Thunderbird, may other annoyances counted as regression)

Note for `20230802 to 20230812`:

This update consists of updating ~6500 packages. Apart from boo#1213973, the system still shows some glitches but rolling back would be even more annoying.

I keep going forward from here onwards, but this snapshot was not unproblematic on my laptop. I asked for help for some of the issues and have not filed any bugs there yet. Counting it as regression, as there are some annoyances, but I'm still working on them. Not happy atm.

20230812 to 20230813: OK
20230813 to 20230814: OK
20230814 to 20230815: OK

20230815 to 20230816: OK
20230816 to 20230819: OK
20230819 to 20230821: OK
20230821 to 20230822: OK
20230822 to 20230823: OK
20230823 to 20230828: OK
20230828 to 20230902: OK
20230902 to 20230904: OK
20230904 to 20230906: OK
20230906 to 20230908: OK

20230908 to 20230910: OK
20230910 to 20230912: OK
20230912 to 20230913: OK
20230913 to 20230915: OK
20230915 to 20230917: OK
20230917 to 20230921: OK
Rollback due to corrupted initramfs (why? how?!?)
20230921 to 20230922: OK
20230922 to 20230925: OK
20230925 to 20230926: OK

20230926 to 20230929: OK
20230929 to 20231001: Skipped (CDN issues)
20231001 to 20231003: OK
20231003 to 20231006: OK
20231006 to 20231008: Rollback due to broken VS Code (boo#1214274)
20231011 to 20231013: Skipped (missing dependencies - Python)
20231013 to 20231016: Skipped (CDN not yet up-to-date)
20231013 to 20231017: Skipped (multiple libQT6 dependency issues)
20231013 to 20231020: OK
20231020 to 20231022: OK

20231022 to 20231023: OK
20231023 to 20231025: CDN not yet ready
20231025 to 20231028: OK
20231028 to 20231029: OK
20231029 to 20231030: OK
20231030 to 20231031: Rollback+Reg (Firefox profile borked)
20231031 to 20231101: OK
20231101 to 20231103: OK

Re-Installation of 20231105: OK

This concludes my experiment. On the 07.11.2023 I reinstalled my Tumbleweed laptop. This was long due because of some annoying issues I couldn't fix. None of them were cirtical, but they were annoying. e.g. `distrobox` wouldn't work and I (and Dan) have no idea why.

Tumbleweed is a fine system, and I keep using it.