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>>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<<
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THE BEST OF THE A2 BULLETIN BOARD ON Syndicomm Online
AND THE BEST OF THE DELPHI A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS
"Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998"
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The Lamp! An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 5, No. 6
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Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson
Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net
Internet Email, Editor................................lyle@FoxValley.net
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
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June 15, 2002
HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER---------------------------------------------[OPN]
Symbols
KFest
A2 FORUM AT Syndicomm Online (A2Central.com) DISTILLATIONS
Apple II Historian Back to the Future----------------------------[AHB]
The True Story of the Mark Twain IIgs----------------------------[TSM]
Teck Ref Manual--------------------------------------------------[TRM]
Source for A2 Hardware-------------------------------------------[SAH]
GSCII+ NDA-------------------------------------------------------[GDA]
How do You Use Your Apple II?------------------------------------[SUA]
Really Cool A2 History Site--------------------------------------[RCH]
Softdisk/Softdisk GS CD?-----------------------------------------[SCD]
Switchbox for ADB------------------------------------------------[SFA]
Doctor Design Sound Card-----------------------------------------[DSC]
Another Header Problem-------------------------------------------[AHP]
ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM
Syndicomm's New Online Store-------------------------------------[NOS]
To Sign up for Syndicomm Online----------------------------------[TSU]
DELPHI A2 DISTILLATIONS
Imagewriter II on a PC-------------------------------------------[IPC]
DELPHI A2Pro DISTILLATIONS
Encryption Tool--------------------------------------------------[ENT]
LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
No Letters to the Editor This Month------------------------------[NLE]
An Invitation----------------------------------------------------[LTE]
KFEST 2002
Pre-KFest Chat---------------------------------------------------[PKC]
Come One, Come all to KFest--------------------------------------[COC]
(KFest) HackFest 2002 Rules--------------------------------------[HFR]
KFest 2002 Registration Information------------------------------[KFR]
EXTRA INNINGS
About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
[*] [*] [*]
READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make
""""""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this
issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find
something like:
EXTRA INNINGS
About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate
[INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].
[OPN]-------------------------------
HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER |
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From The Editor
"""""""""""""""
by Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>
Symbols
~~~~~~~
From High Above The Rock River, against the deep blue sky, the clouds
appear to be to be made of huge piles of white cotton. The park along the
east bank of the river is glowing from the lush green trees and neatly
trimmed grass. Flowers and shrubs are in glorious bloom.
Within this park there is a sculpture that stands in sharp contrast.
Standing some thirty feet high, it is constructed of steel tubing of
various dimensions welded together at various angles. This creation is
painted "Primecoat Red". It is titled simply, "Symbol".
Many people indicated that they didn't understand what this symbol
represented... some nicknamed it "The Tubes". The artist explained that it
symbolized the many factories of this heavily industrialized city.
KFest
~~~~~
The term KFest, short for Kansas Fest, has become a symbol for the
annual gathering of Apple II enthusiasts. A place to exchange ideas...
learn 'how to'... announce new hardware... announce new software...
visit... compete...
If you have never been to KFest you really do not fully understand
what this symbol stands for. We would be delighted to show you in person.
See the section of this issue devoted to KFest for registration
information.
[EOA]
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[EOA]
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DISTILLATIONS FROM The A2 FORUM at Syndicomm.com |
(A2Central.com) |
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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
[AHB]
Apple II HISTORIAN BACK TO THE FUTURE
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
I'm "back to the future" again! It just might be fun around here!
Steven Weyhrich
http://apple2history.org
(SWEYHRICH, Cat 2, Top 7, Msg 136)
>>>>>
"""""
Hello Steve.
Great to have you around. I always have fun here:) Always nice to have
someone around.
Dain Neater
p.s. I learned quite a bit from your Apple II history pages.
(A2.DAIN, Cat 2, Top 7, Msg 137)
>>>>>
"""""
Hi Steve, great to see you here! :)
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
Building communities, bit by bit.
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 7, Msg 138)
>>>>>
"""""
Welcome Steve!
Ryan
(A2.RYAN, Cat 2, Top 7, Msg 139)
>>>>>
"""""
Wow. Welcome to Syndicomm A2 Steven! You were one of the guys on my wish
list for people that I would like to see participate here. I'm going to
have to change my A2 nickname. It was your a long time before it was mine.
Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host
"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.
7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT
(MARK, Cat 2, Top 7, Msg 140)
>>>>>
"""""
Yeah, it's good to see you, Steve!
I like your work. B-{)
Kirk
(A2.KIRK, Cat 2, Top 7, Msg 142)
[EOA]
[TSM]
THE TRUE STORY OF THE Mark Twain IIgs
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Okay, I'm trying to make the Apple II History more accurate, in terms of
events that have occurred since I originally completed it around 1992-1993.
One thing that I'd like to clarify is the TRUE story of the Mark Twain IIgs
(ROM "04"). I've read an article by a Jim Pittman that was in the
AppleQuerque user group newsletter in Feb 1996. In that version, Mr.
Pittman discovers someone who used to work for Apple in early 1993, who had
this old prototype that turns out to be the Mark Twain IIGS.
In another version, C.T. claims to have seen it as a service question from
someone who purchased it for $50 at a flea market. He then loses track of
it until the discovery by the AppleQuerque people.
And somewhere in the mix is Joe Kohn, who documented what was found in an
issue of Shareware Solutions II.
I'm looking for the best correct accurate story that i can come across to
explain where it was found, by whom, and who has it now. Also, are there
any color photographs of it anywhere? Preferable a couple that could be
included in an update to the History in the IIgs chapter.
Can anyone help here? Thanks in advance!
Steven Weyhrich
Apple II Historian
http://apple2history.org
(SWEYHRICH, Cat 2, Top 15, Msg 16)
>>>>>
"""""
Hi Steve,
Jim Pittman indeed tells a true story. The Albuquerque Mark Twain did
exist, and I wrote all about it in the premier issue of Juiced.GS, Vol. 1,
Issue 1. My article was based on in-depth e-mail interviews with two
prominent Apple II personalities who saw it and spent some time assessing
its make-up and capabilities.
My two sources were Mike Westerfield (Byte Works) and Joe T. Walters
(former A2 forum sysop on Compuserve). Joe even sent me a batch of color
photos of the Twain, and some were used with the article. It is my
recollection that the Albuquerque machine was quite fragile and did not
perform well. Eventually, I believe it went back to its original owner, who
Mike and Joe would not identify.
The Joe Kohn Twain is a totally different machine, obtained independently
of the Albuquerque Twain. Last I heard, Joe was still using it as his main
IIGS.
Tony Diaz undoubtedly has a wealth of info about the Twain that he could
share with you. He's probably the single best source for such info, but
I'll let him take it from there.
Good luck on your research. If there is anything I can do to help your
cause -- such as send you a complimentary copy of the Juiced.GS issue with
the Twain story in it -- I'd be happy to do so.
-- Max Jones
-- Editor Emeritus and founder :-)
-- Juiced.GS
(JUICEDGS, Cat 2, Top 15, Msg 17)
>>>>>
"""""
Not mentioned here yet is that Tony Diaz has a complete, functioning ROM 4
prototype. He brings it with him to KFest each year and I had a chance to
see it myself last year. I believe he obtained it at the same time and
from the same person that Joe Kohn received his.
Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host
"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.
7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT
(MARK, Cat 2, Top 15, Msg 19)
[EOA]
[TRM]
TECK REF MANUAL
"""""""""""""""
Speaking of the IIc Tech Ref Manual: Was that book a hard cover edition? If
so, I seem to have lost mine, and was wanting correct information for a
citation in the History. Does that edition have pages in the lower-case
Roman numeral section that is about the Apple IIc family? My reference
looks like this:
"Preface: The Apple IIc Family", Apple IIc Technical Reference Manual.
Reading, Massachusetts, Addison-Wesley Publishing Company, Inc., 1984,
1986: xxiii-xxv.
Since I can't find my copy, and each copy I have does not have anything
about any stinking IIc family in the xxii pages, I presume I've lost my
copy. Can you tell me what is the copyright date, is the publisher
information correct?
(I _knew_ this A2Central subscription would be good for SOMETHING :-) )
Steve
(SWEYHRICH, Cat 2, Top 17, Msg 6)
>>>>>
"""""
The original IIc Tech Ref was hardcover; the second edition (which adds
IIc+ coverage) was softcover, much like the Toolbox Reference Volume 3.
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
Building communities, bit by bit.
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 17, Msg 7)
[EOA]
[SAH]
SOURCE FOR A2 HARDWARE
""""""""""""""""""""""
In a recent burst of nostalgia and wanting to get some systems running
again, I was wondering if you still had any hardware that you were looking
to unload. Right now I'm looking for any of the following:
Second Sight VGA Card
IIGS Sound Cards (SoundMeister, Audio Animator, SuperSonic, etc)
ZipGS or Transwarp
Superdrive card
RamFAST or Apple High Speed SCSI
thanks!
-Jim Maricondo
(DIGISOFT, Cat 3, Top 31, Msg 38)
>>>>>
"""""
Hi Jim,
Wow, talk about a blast from the past. Welcome to Syndicomm Online! :)
Second Sight Card: Tough item to come by. Every now and again one pops up
================= on eBay but very far and few in between.
IIGS Sound Cards : Semi-common item on eBay. Tony Diaz *may* be able to
================ get you one. You can find him in RTC here almost daily.
ZipGS or TWGS : These tend to go on waves on eBay. You won't see any
============= for any for awhile and then suddenly there are 2 or 3
selling at a time. Depending on the card they tend to
sell in the $150 - $200 range.
Superdrive Card : Last I heard Shreve Systems still had stock on them and
=============== were selling them for $59 each.
RamFAST or AHSS : Again fairly common on eBay. Often if you just ask
=============== around someone will have a spare they are willing to
sell. That is how I got my AHSS card.
Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host
"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.
7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT
(MARK, Cat 3, Top 31, Msg 40)
[EOA]
[GDA]
GSCII+ NDA
""""""""""
I've heard some people say that Derek Taubert's NDA, GSCII+, is not
perfect. Could someone detail what's wrong with it? Does it corrupt
files, or produce corrupted output, or simply not work?
Thanks,
-Ken
(KGAGNE, Cat 7, Top 5, Msg 10)
>>>>>
"""""
The last time this question popped up, I think the answer was that the
length of the unbinscii'd file would be a little too long, so self-
extracting files wouldn't execute, among other things.
I also found a bug, where if you went to save the file, entered a file
name, but then changed your mind and cancelled, it would still extract to
the file. Since there were other tools available at the time, I didn't
look into it further.
Kelvin
(KWS, Cat 7, Top 5, Msg 12)
>>>>>
"""""
I believe there is a length problem (as described above) mainly affecting
SEA files. But in practical terms, it is the main utility that I've used,
and I simply haven't hit many (any?) problems in practice.
I like it and use it (although not exclusively - I use command line
utilities when I'm using the ORCA shell).
Peter peterw@syndicomm.com
Palm OS Community Bulletin Board Manager
(PETERW, Cat 7, Top 5, Msg 13)
>>>>>
"""""
I too haven't had any experience with problems with GSScii+.
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
Building communities, bit by bit.
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 7, Top 5, Msg 14)
>>>>>
"""""
re: GSCII+ problems. . .
Two documented problems from Tony Diaz's Apple2 FAQs, by Nathan Mates:
8.2 What are the problems with GSCII?
A: GSCII is a great program, but has two subtle problems: First, it won't
work correctly if you extract to a HFS disk (so extract to a ProDOS disk).
Also, it won't set the size correctly on S16 files. This should only be a
problem when downloading Shrinkit GS. In that case, use BINSCII. The rest
of the time you will be extracting .SHK files, which don't care about extra
bytes at the end.
Another issue, documented by Steve Reeves in the July 1998 version of
_The Lamp!_:
When it creates the BinSCII file, it puts the auxtype $8102 into the
BinSCII file instead of $8002. So any program that decodes that file will
give it $8102. (With the exception of David Empson's descii, which is
smart enough to correct this as a special case.)
Ryan
(A2.RYAN, Cat 7, Top 5, Msg 16)
[EOA]
[SUA]
HOW DO YOU USE YOUR Apple II?
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
I am in the process of writing a new chapter for the Apple II History, a
"Ten Years After" chapter that catches up on the Apple II world in general
since I originally completed it. Since I have been out of the loop for a
while, I am in the process of getting myself updated by starting to read
all of the Lamp issues that have come out since 1994, as well as all of the
messages that are already posted here on the A2 Forum.
What I am interested in particularly here is this: How are people using
their Apple II's today? Is it something that you use regularly, or is it
more of a nostalgia piece for playing old games (for example)? Or is your
Apple II an emulated machine on some other platform?
Be assured that anything you say will be used in the chapter that I write
ONLY after I have your permission. And if you prefer from the start to not
be identified at all, please let me know.
Thank you in advance!
Steven Weyhrich
Apple II Historian
http://apple2history.org
(SWEYHRICH, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 5)
>>>>>
"""""
I use my IIgs for a few specific tasks these days:
I use it to create disks that Syndicomm sells to others.
I use it for select computational tasks, like I'll have a calculator open
on it, or something like that.
I actually use it to manipulate disk images for Linux, BeOS, and Mac
systems, because my own tools for it are better than the ones you can get
for those platforms. :)
I play some of my favorite games.
I also use it for some networking tasks, the occasional telnet session, or
for serial-line based remote debugging.
These days I mostly use my real GS, but only because Bernie isn't Mac OS X
native.
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
Building communities, bit by bit.
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 6)
>>>>>
"""""
Steve,
A little bit about me. I started my Apple II experience back in 1979 when
my best friend picked up a new, 32K, Apple ][ plus with the earning from
his summer job. I spent a lot of time over at his place exploring the
capabilities of his machine and was hooked. I wasn't able to get my own
Apple II until November 1981. When I did I used that machine religiously
until around 1985. At that time I started a full time programming job and
part of what I supported was IBM PCs.
In 1994 I started the road back to the Apple II. While searching a local
BBS for flight simulator software I fell upon an Apple IIe emulator,
SimSystem IIe. It rekindled my interest in the old machine and in July
1995 I bought a brand new Platinum IIe from Sun Remarketing. Also around
this time I found a text copy of your Apple II History which brought me up
to date and further fuelled my interest.
Since then I have picked up an additional 3 Apple IIe's, 2 Apple IIc's, an
Apple IIc plus, 2 Apple IIgs's, a Golden II (II+ clone), an Apple IIe card
for the LC series Macintosh along with my original Apple ][ which I still
have.. My online experience started with comp.emulators.apple2, to
comp.sys.apple2, to Delphi and to here when Sheppy opened the doors in
December 2000. I have the regular my Wednesday night RTC slot and attended
my first KFest last year.
Right now I have 4 of my Apple II's setup in my home, the others are in
storage. For me it is mostly a nostalgia thing. The program I use most
often is ProTerm A2 in conjunction with my Linux box/cable modem from where
I can use Lynx, Links, Pine, Tin, FTP, SSH and Telnet. I make a point of
conducting my weekly RTC from a real Apple II.
Over the last couple of months I've also started realizing a 20 year
ambition to become an Apple II assembler programmer. My apprenticeship has
started with a copy of Roger Wagner's "Assembly Lines: The Book" and ORCA/M
Macro Assembler. I have started my first programming project which I
naively expected to have completed by KFest but now expect to have ready
for Christmas.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it. ;)
If any of this manages to be useful to you please feel free to use it
however you see fit.
Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host
"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.
7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT
(MARK, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 7)
>>>>>
"""""
Steve,
I purchased my Apple IIgs computer at the Frankfurt Post Exchange in 1987
while stationed in West Germany with the U.S. Army. I later took the CPU
back to the exchange for the ROM 01 upgrade. To this day it remains my
only computer. I use it on a daily basis read the boards here on Syndicomm
and check my email. I use Spectrum with the SOAR OLR and SAM to do this.
I surf (okay maybe just wade through) the internet using SIS. I use it to
do word processing and other tasks as I need to, and play games when I can.
This includes the MUD here on Syndicomm.
I joined GEnie when I got stationed state-side in 1992. When I was
stationed in Turkey in 1997, I got a Delphi account since GEnie had no
access from that country. Marinetti v1.0 had just been released so I was
able to establish an account via TCP/IP with a local ISP. Try learning a
new means of communication and working with the ISP's tech control in a
foreign language at the same time. I joined Syndicomm (A2Central.com)
shortly after the doors opened here.
The computer started as a CPU with 8 empty slots. It now has, among other
things, a stereo sound card, a 10 MHz accelerator, a SCSI card, 750 Meg IDE
hard drive, and 8 Megs of RAM. Once I move into the new place next month,
I will install the ethernet card and connect via DSL or cable ( which ever
is available). For me the Apple IIgs has been a story of continual growth
for over 15 years.
Roger A. Schnorenberg - Roger
"Roger A. Schnorenberg" <AB0MX@ARRL.net>
Delivered by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8 with NiftySpell 1.0
Via Marinetti 2.0.1 TCP/IP stack on a ROM 0 IIGS upgraded to the max!
(SCHNORENBERG, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 8)
>>>>>
"""""
Steve,
I have a IIe, a ROM 1 GS, and a ROM 3 GS, as well as a couple of spares.
The main three are all maxed out on memory, accelerated, and all slots
full. I have no other computers and have been using Apple IIs since 1981.
I use my Apple IIs for word processing, book keeping (both personal and
business), taxes, finances, budgets, inventories (personal), organization
and communications for the local Boy Scout District, telecomm (email and
Syndicomm - I don't bother with the web), games, programming, and probably
a few other things that don't come immediately to mind. AppleWorks 3.0 and
5.1 and Prosel 8 and 16 are my heaviest used programs. Spectrum is my
telecomm program. I am also the "computer consultant" for my Dad, who uses
his IIgs for word processing, games, and email, and an older friend, who
uses his IIe (which I recently souped up for him) for word processing.
They both use Appleworks for their word processors. My Dad uses ProTerm
for his telecomm program.
MT Steve
(S.BERNBAUM, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 10)
>>>>>
"""""
I have four tricked out IIgs's, a IIe, and a IIc Plus in semi-regular use.
I use Bernie on my PowerBook a lot, particularly for putting together
Juiced.GS.
Every Apple II publication currently in print (with the exception of
Call-A.P.P.L.E., I guess) goes through one of those computers :)
Ryan
(A2.RYAN, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 11)
>>>>>
"""""
My family currently has five computers (not including all the game machines
for the boys) and we use them all (including this one [the GS] on a regular
basis). The GS is used to play two games and to access Syndicomm. I am
lucky enough to be able to use Spectrum and SOAR through an ethernet board
over my cable connection so that the GS remains fast enough (relatively
speaking) to allow me the luxury of using the best way to read and reply to
a bulletin board. I can't stand using a web browser to read and reply to
text (no offense Sheppy :) but even your web side is foreign to me.) I
like to take the time to think about what I am reading, formulate my reply
and then type it out (slowly I will admit).
The games we play are Milestones (which goes too fast on the Mac) and
MacZombies (which for some reason doesn't play well on the Mac.) I wonder
why? :)
I do have Bernie on one of my machines, but these three programs are all I
would currently use for the GS, and all work better on this real GS.
David R. Pierce
Delivered by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8
(DAVIDP, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 12)
I'm sad to say that the IIgs doesn't get used much these days. It is still
my machine of choice to maintain several large (but simple) Appleworks
databases. And I too like to run Milestones 2000.
Interestingly, if I need to write a quick program to tweak the contents of
a file (for example, to convert one format to another), the IIgs is where
I'm likely to do it.
Peter peterw@syndicomm.com
Palm OS Community Bulletin Board Manager
(PETERW, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 15)
>>>>>
"""""
Two IIgs's set up... both used daily... one for my wife and one for me.
Used for email (Pine), surfing the internet (Lynx), word processor
(Appleworks), spreadsheet (Appleworks).
And, of course, production of and uploading _The Lamp!_
Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net> Editor, _The Lamp!_
published monthly at: http://lamp.a2central.com/
(LYLE, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 16)
>>>>>
"""""
My GS still has the place of honor at my computer desk, while my Beige G3
sits to the side. I use the GS primarily for telneting here and other
accounts using my LANceGS ethernet card, and playing "Reach for the Stars",
one of those global conquest games that came out a long time ago. B-{)
Before the ethernet card, the GS was just used for games, since my ISP
dropped its shell accounts, and Marinetti had troubles with the CHAP
logins. Now it's back to being a working machine.
I have two other GS's with SCSI drives as backups, and perhaps 8 others
sitting around waiting until I can get them set up with keyboards and
monitors.
I also have 8 //e's, but as I get them, I give them away to my summer
school students with a bunch of games and educational software.
Basically, I use my Apples as therapy. B-{)
Kirk
(A2.KIRK, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 17)
[EOA]
[RCH]
REALLY COOL A2 HISTORY SITE
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Well, there's this really cool history site I found once... :-)
Steven Weyhrich
Apple II Historian
http://apple2history.org
(SWEYHRICH, Cat 11, Top 3, Msg 2)
[EOA]
[SCD]
SOFTDISK/SOFTDISK GS CD?
""""""""""""""""""""""""
Regarding Softdisk/Softdisk GS:
I recently was in e-mail communication with the person at Softdisk.com (now
more of a web-hosting service, with some "store" sales of their PC-magazine
games) and asked the question about whether or not Softdisk, Inc., would
ever consider releasing the SD/SDGS series as "freeware" or whatever you
want to call it. He said that the master disks still exist, but would
obviously require some conversion into disk image format. He didn't feel
that there was much demand for something like that, considering the time
and effort that would be necessary to create that type of archive. (He also
mentioned that any of their IIgs's still in existence are boxed up and in
questionable operating condition).
I also asked whether some of the best games could even be made available
for sale on their Softdisk store, and the issue still is the time and
effort and what they perceive as little value.
And of course, they will NOT plan on sending the master disks offsite to
have someone else do the work, even if they are volunteering.
Now, if someone lives in Shreveport, LA, has a IIgs with a 5.25 drive, 3.5
drive, and appropriately sized hard drive, and the time to convert multiple
issues of SD and/or SDGS into uploadable disk images, and wants to go to
their offices to do the conversion, maybe he would be interested. :-)
Steven Weyhrich
Apple II Historian
http://apple2history.org
(SWEYHRICH, Cat 15, Top 4, Msg 23)
>>>>>
"""""
Strangely enough, last week I copied all 82 issues of SDGS to my hard drive
as a form of backup. I did this because I was concerned that the disks
might be degrading. Some of them were, but with a little effort I got good
copies. I can tell you that they just fit on two 30 Meg partitions
(Uncompressed).
Roger A. Schnorenberg - Roger
"Roger A. Schnorenberg" <AB0MX@ARRL.net>
Delivered by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8 with NiftySpell 1.0
(SCHNORENBERG, Cat 15, Top 4, Msg 25)
>>>>>
"""""
Softdisk/Softdisk GS is personally something I would love to see be made
available once again. I would personally volunteer to do the work to
convert all of their back issues to both Shrinkit archives and disk images
for distribution on either a low-cost CD or public archive.
Unfortunately Montreal, QC is no where near Shreveport, LA. :(
Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host
"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.
7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT
(MARK, Cat 15, Top 4, Msg 26)
>>>>>
"""""
I've got all but 4 or 5 issues of sdgs, but have wanted to see a sdgs CD
for quite some time now (CDs don't develop bad blocks, are easier for
emulators, and take up less room than a 80 floppies). I'd also be
interested in an 8-bit softdisk collection.
The last time the subject was brought up, I think there was concern the
copyrights on some programs might have reverted back to the authors. The
most excellent Silvern Castle (which they never got around to publishing)
would be in that category.
I think a softdisk cd would sell just as well as the GEnie Time In A Bottle
CD.
Kelvin
(KWS, Cat 15, Top 4, Msg 27)
>>>>>
"""""
To clarify the matter, Silvern Castle was purchased by Softdisk in 1988 and
they retained all copyrights at that time. However, in 1997-98 I wrote
requesting that all rights be transferred back to me. This they agreed to
since they never published it. In addition, although I requested it, they
denied transferring the rights of other programs I wrote that they
purchased and did publish.
-Jeff Fink
(FINKSTERJ, Cat 15, Top 4, Msg 28)
[EOA]
[SFA]
SWITCHBOX FOR ADB
"""""""""""""""""
Designing a switchbox for ADB isn't really that hard (I couldn't do it, but
it is very reasonable to expect it to work correctly). You essentially
keep power on the ADB ports. The switchbox isn't just a simple disconnect
pins from one port and move them to another. There are additional
electronics and you expect the price to start at a couple hundred dollars.
Sun workstations are especially picky if you disconnect the keyboard. They
behave as if it received a reset signal. But KVM switches exists for these
systems and the reset behavior isn't present (as long as you get an
expensive enough switch) when switching the keyboard to different
workstations.
There are some systems (i.e. a Mac II) that can result in hardware failure
if you pull a keyboard while it is powered on. The IIgs doesn't have this
problem (as most Macs also don't have this problem). I have disconnected
ADB devices frequently on my IIgs with no ill effect. This isn't to say
that a potentially flaky motherboard won't have problems. And a
potentially flaky motherboard may not be apparent until its too late.
Geoff
(GEOFF, Cat 17, Top 11, Msg 24)
[EOA]
[DSC]
DOCTOR DESIGN SOUND CARD
""""""""""""""""""""""""
Has anyone ever heard of a Doctor Design sound card? I have been browsing
a bunch of IIGS systems for sale and come across a couple of systems with
Doctor Design cards in their machines. They have a headset jack and an
on/off switch, and it appears that they plug into the internal modular
sound connector. Ever heard of this before?
-Jim
(DIGISOFT, Cat 17, Top 30, Msg 12)
>>>>>
"""""
I know a guy that works for Doctor Design, it's a for contract hardware
design facility - By the amount (or lack there of) I have surmised that
this card is some type of amp or signal stabilizer. To provide line level
perhaps. I've got a couple here. Seems they were popular in schools and
schools had headphones a lot. I've never hooked it up. He couldn't tell me
what it was because they made it under contract. (No secrets, just no
knowledge)
http://apple2.gs/images/InterfaceCards/images/Sound.Music/image-html/Doctor
DesignSound.html
OR
http://apple2.gs/images/InterfaceCards/images/Sound.Music/index.html
Tony
(A2.TONYD, Cat 17, Top 30, Msg 14)
[EOA]
[AHP]
ANOTHER HEADER PROBLEM
""""""""""""""""""""""
Another header problem...
The marinetti programmers guide & the orca/c header files (and probably the
other languages as well) list this call:
DNSRecPtr TCPIPGetDNS(void)
it should actually be:
void TCPIPGetDNS(DNSRecPtr)
Kelvin
(KWS, Cat 57, Top 31, Msg 2)
[EOA]
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ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM |
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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
[NOS]
SYNDICOMM'S NEW ONLINE STORE
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Syndicomm's new online store is now open at http://store.syndicomm.com.
With more products, online secure ordering, and more accurate shipping
computation, as well as support for customer reviews of products, it's a
much better solution than our old store.
I would appreciate it if folks that own products we sell would add some
reviews to products. Be honest, don't suck up or anything. :)
Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com
Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com
Building communities, bit by bit.
(SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 48, Syndicomm A2)
[EOA]
[TSU]
TO SIGN UP FOR SYNDICOMM ONLINE
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Please visit our web site at http://www.syndicomm.com for information or to
sign up!
(Logon message)
[EOA]
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DISTILLATIONS FROM DELPHI A2 |
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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
[IPC]
IMAGEWRITER II ON A PC
""""""""""""""""""""""
Tell me how to get my imagewriter II to work with my pc. Problem is my
serial port is using my mouse. But I'll try most anything.
God bless you.
Bruce
/www.hal-pc.org/~bbaker/
(BRB, 3588.5, Delphi A2 web side)
>>>>>
"""""
If your PC is standard, it should have TWO serial ports. Modern ATX boards
have dual DE9 connectors (9-pin male) while older AT boards often used DE9
and DB25.
You can use either serial port, it's just a simple matter of telling
Windows that the ImageWriter is using either 'COMM1' or 'COMM2' (COMM1 is
usually used by a serial mouse). If you're using an analog modem (dial-up)
then your second serial port would be in use, though you can safely swap
serial cables with the power on.
Windows has a built-in driver for the ImageWriter. When you click on 'Add
printer' pick 'C-Itoh' and choose the 8510 model. It should set everything
up for you automatically, just tell it which serial port you're using. If
you want to do color, you'll need to download a newer version of the driver
from C-Itoh's page.
As far as the physical connection is concerned, all you need is:
-A plain Apple IIgs/Mac modem cable (mini-DIN8 to DB25m)
-A plain PC modem cable (DB9f to DB25m; or DB25f to DB25m)
-A Null-Modem adapter (an adapter with DB25f on both ends)
If you want to free a serial port, you could switch to a PS/2 mouse.
I prefer it anyway as you can set the polling rate higher to have smoother
mouse movements, like the IIgs and Mac have always had.
Btw, it turns out the StyleWriter I is a QuickDraw based printer, so it
won't work on the PC with standard software drivers like the ImageWriter
(or an 8-bit Apple II for that matter). Unless someone has written a
QuickDraw printer driver for Windows, it'll have to stay on my IIgs.
Mitchell Spector
a_specto@alcor.concordia.ca
(SPECTOR1, 3588.6, Delphi A2 web side)
>>>>>
"""""
Yes but where do I get a proper cable? I only have one serial port, this is
a laptop.
DB9 to MinDin8
God bless you.
Bruce
/www.hal-pc.org/~bbaker/
(BRB, 3588.7, Delphi A2 web side)
>>>>>
"""""
Any computer store will carry what you'll need (it is possible to build,
possibly even find, a single cable to do the job, but this is what I've
done and easiest to find). Walk into a store that sells cables, or if
you're really stuck and price isn't a concern, a Radio Shack will do.
Just ask for a serial cable to hook up a modem to your PC (DB25m to DE9f).
Then a serial cable to hook up a modem to an old-style Macintosh (Mini-DIN8
to DB25m) and finally a null-modem adapter. The PC modem cable is a snap to
find, the last you may or may not find, depending on the store.
I don't know how common null-modem adapters are these days, it's just a
little adapter plug with DB25f connectors on each end. Radio Shack would
have them at least. Here's an image of what one looks like:
http://www.ep-net.com/images/industrial/adapter_nullmodem.jpg
If you've ever used an external modem on your IIgs or Mac, you already have
one of the cables required.
Mitchell Spector
a_specto@alcor.concordia.ca
(SPECTOR1, 3588.8, Delphi A2 web side)
[EOA]
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DISTILLATIONS FROM DELPHI A2Pro |
------------------------------------
by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
[ENT]
ENCRYPTION TOOL
"""""""""""""""
As a spin off from the development work that I have been doing on the
Marinetti Open Source Project to implement MS-CHAP, I have created a DES
encryption toolkit.
The structure is based on Geoff Weiss' Hashing Toolkit.
The only algorithm that is currently supported is DES 56 bit. The toolset
could be easily extended for other encryption algorithms as required.
I've typed in the source code, made some changes for Apple II memory
mappings and implemented a prototype system toolset. It en/decrypts 8 byte
chunks at a time. It has not been optimized - the toolset is basically a
wrapper around 6502 code.
It may not be pretty, but it works. I'm not interested in refining it
unless it proves to be a major bottleneck.
If anyone would like to take a look at it, let me know. I anticipate that
it will be made part of the MOSP project in the near future.
Regards,
Andrew
(ROUGHANA, 418.1, Delphi A2Pro web side)
[EOA]
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR |
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[NLE]
NO LETTERS TO THE EDITOR THIS MONTH
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
The mail box for Letters to the Editor remained empty this month.
[EOA]
[LTE]
AN INVITATION
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Express your opinions about the comings and goings in the world of the
Apple II computers.
Send your comments to Lyle Syverson, Editor <lyle@FoxValley.net>
The Editor reserves the right to edit any material submitted.
The Editor reserves the right to reject any material he considers
unsuitable for publication in _The Lamp!_.
[EOA]
[KFT]------------------------------
KFest 2002 |
-----------------------------------
[PKC]
PRE-KFest CHAT
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Join us Monday, June 17, at 7:00 PM PDT for our pre-KFest chat session!
Bring questions, suggestions for sessions, ideas for the Roast, but most
all, bring yourselves!
(A2.KIRK, Cat 2, Top 6, Msg 64, Syndicomm A2)
[EOA]
[COC]
COME ONE, COME ALL TO KFest
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Come one, come all to Kfest this year.
Jul 22 thru 28, almost a whole week. The campus is nice, everything is
close together, the food's not too bad. Meet other A2 enthusiasts, share
advice. Learn some programming or some good programs to use. See hardware
demonstrated, maybe get some new hardware. Hey you can scrounge some 5.25"
diskettes before Cindy and Tony and Kirk start throwing them around the
halls. (You can watch me dodge them trying to go to the bathroom.)
Some of you guys who are expert game players should come and volunteer to
do a session. I know I'd like the break from all the super serious stuff
and I think my Silvern Castle session was pretty well received. But I don't
have another Apple II game I can review this year.
This a varied group of people, all ages, sexes, temperaments. Not everyone
stays up all night. Some people do come down for breakfast every morning.
We'd love to see some new blood, and some new session holders.
God bless you.
Bruce
/www.hal-pc.org/~bbaker/
(BRB, 3501.17, Delphi A2 web side)
[EOA]
[HFR]
(KFest) HackFest 2002 Rules
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""
It's that time again! The annual Posting of the HackFest Rules!
We're also soliciting prizes for this year's event; if you would like to
donate an appropriate prize, please let me know.
KansasFest 2002
HackFest Rules
1. Contest begins at 7:00 AM on Wednesday, July 24, and ends at 7:00 AM on
Saturday, July 27 so that judging can begin. The winners will be announced
during the Saturday morning sessions. Entries submitted late won't be
considered. Entries may be done by individuals or teams; however,
individual achievement counts.
2. Three judges will be selected by the KFest committee to judge the
competition; at least one of them will be available at all times, to
provide assistance and judgement calls. At least one judge will be
a non-programmer.
3. Entries must be written entirely during the allotted time; no source
code -- printed or on any form of computer-readable media -- may be used
(although sample source code printed inside standard and acceptable
reference materials is allowed), and the program must run on an Apple II
model present at KFest.
4. Any version of any development environment and programming language may
be used; however, there may not be any libraries, header files, or macro
sets used that aren't standard-issue for that version of the development
environment or programming language.
5. Programs can't require unusual additional software or hardware; it's up
to the judges to decide what constitutes "unusual." The participant should
ask in advance.
6. Programs can't take unfair advantage of system addons written in advance
for the sole purpose of easing the work to be done during the contest
period. Any extensions or other system addons used by an entry must have
been released to the general public at least three months prior to the
contest date.
7. Entries will be judged on completeness, cleverness, and the somewhat
vague "cool" factor. Entries don't have to be useful if they're otherwise
impressive, and they don't have to be "finished."
8. All entry programs are the property of the creator, and do not have to
be released to the general public at any time; however, we hope that
entries will be distributed by some means (whether for free or otherwise)
when ready. However, entries may be described or discussed, including
screen shots (where applicable), by the KFest committee for promotional
purposes, or by legitimate Apple II community press.
The following lists are not necessarily complete lists of everything
allowed; these are to be taken as "givens." If it's not on the list,
please ask for confirmation.
Acceptable software:
System software
Development environment (no customizations)
GSBug
Nifty List
Marinetti
Exerciser
ORCA/Debugger, Splat!
DesignMaster, Foundation, Genesys, ResLin
Talking Tools
Spectrum, ProTERM, ANSITerm
Acceptable hardware:
Apple II computer, monitor, disk drives, hard drives
CD-ROM drive, tape drive
Hard disk controller card
Sound card (speakers/headphones/etc)
Accelerator card (any speed)
RAM card
Accepted reference material:
All official Apple reference materials (including manuals, technical
notes, and file type notes).
Reference manuals included with development tools and software.
Commercially-available reference manuals.
Any other hardware, software, or reference material needs the approval of
the judges in advance. When in doubt, ask the judges.
Eric Shepherd
Owner
Syndicomm
http://www.syndicomm.com
(KFest Mailing List)
[EOA]
[KFR]
K-FEST 2002 REGISTRATION INFORMATION
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
KFEST 2002 REGISTRATION:
+++ Please note: You MUST send the NEW registration form below (via postal
mail or fax) when you register.
KFest 2002 Registration Info... meet old A2 friends... meet new friends...
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
When: July 23-28, 2002
Where: Avila College, Kansas City, Missouri
The most important Apple II event of the year, KFest 2002, is on our
calendar again, and it's never too early to make sure it has a place on
your calendar, too.
Check these rates, which include your room from Tuesday and meals from
Wednesday evening (dinner) on July 24, through Sunday morning (breakfast)
on July 28. (Saturday evening dinner not included. That's KFesters' Night
Out On The Town!)
PLEASE NOTE: There is no "extra day" fee this year. Because of the
popularity, we've arranged to make Tuesday an official part of KFest!
KFest 2002 Registration Form
View and print this document using 9-point Monaco or Courier font (the
default of most monospaced font applications such as ProTERM & Spectrum).
Registering for KFest 2002:
NOTE: - The information requested in the KFest Registration Form below
must be sent even though the information is called in.
- If a member of the family accompanies you to KFest, please send
a separate registration form for each person.
<> Fax or email KFest Registration Form using a credit card number:
- Complete the form below and send the KFest Registration Form;
(EMAIL IS NOT SECURE).
<> By postal mail: Credit card, check, Purchase Order or money order:
- Print and fill out the KFest Registration Form.
- Send the form with the payment to:
InTrec Software, Inc. <kfest@intrec.com>
Attn: KFest Registration Voc: 602/992-1345
3035 E Topaz Cir Fax: 602/992-0232
Phoenix, Az 85028-4423
Discover/Novus, Visa, Mastercard or AmEx accepted. Checks & money orders
must be payable to InTrec Software, and must be in US dollars from a US
bank.
---[ Begin Form ]-----------[ Cut Here ]----------[ Print Clearly ]---
=>___ =>___
First Name Last Name
=>___
Organization (if applicable to KFest)
=>___
Shipping Address
=>___
City
=>___
State/Province Zip+4 or Postal Code
=>___ =>___
Day Phone Eve Phone
=>___
Internet Mail Address
=>___ =>___
Credit Card Number (Mastercard-Visa-Discover/Novus-AmEx) Expiration Date
=>___
Name on Card (please print clearly)
=>___
Authorized Signature (If printed and mailed, or faxed.)
If you feel that using a credit card number via email may not be secure,
consider mailing via postal service, fax, or call voice to give the card
number.
Checks and money orders must be on a USA bank and USA compatible funds.
Registration Cost Check each Applicable Line
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+++ Early Bird rates (Register BEFORE May 15) +++
7 [ ] Double Room before 5/15 .............................. 265.00
8 [ ] Single Room before 5/15 .............................. 330.00
9 [ ] Spouse or child before 5/15 .......................... 200.00
10 [ ] Registration only (no room or meals) before 5/15 ...... 200.00
+++ Rates after the Early Bird Special (Register AFTER May 15) +++
Rates (after May 15 and at the door):
11 [ ] Double Room ......................................... 335.00
12 [ ] Single Room ......................................... 385.00
13 [ ] Spouse or child ..................................... 285.00
14 [ ] Registration only (no room or meals) after 5/15....... 285.00
T-Shirts must be ordered in advance
15 [ ] T-Shirt softwear Small ............................... 15.00
16 [ ] T-Shirt softwear Medium .............................. 15.00
17 [ ] T-Shirt softwear Large ............................... 15.00
18 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 1X-Large ............................ 15.00
19 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 2X-Large ............................ 15.00
20 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 3X-Large ............................ 16.00
21 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 4X-Large ............................ 17.00
22 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 5X-Large ............................ 18.00
23 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 6X-Large ............................ 19.00
24 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 7X-Large ............................ 20.00
25 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 8X-Large ............................ 21.00
26 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 9X-Large ............................ 22.00
May we send your registration confirmation via e-mail? [ ]Yes [ ]No
[ ] As a PDF (Acrobat Reader) file (preferred)
[ ] As a TEXT file mailed to the listed address
Roommate preference: =>___
Prefer smoking/non-smoking roommate: [ ] Smoke [ ] Non-smoke
Today's Date: _=>___ / /
1- Registration fee (see above dates & fees) ......... =>__
2- Registration fee for spouse if applicable ......... =>__
3- T-Shirts Quantity [ ] @ $15.00 ea) ................ =>__
4- Sub-total of lines 1-3: ........................... =>__
5- Arizona residents only add 8.1% tax: .............. =>__
6- Total cost (total of lines 4-5): .................. =>__
---[ End Form ]------------[ Cut Here ]----------[ Print Clearly ]---
Check-in will be from 1-4 pm on Tuesday. Check-out will be from 11 am-1 pm
on Sunday.
Current plans call for formal KFest 2002 sessions to begin with dinner in
the Avila cafeteria on Wednesday evening (time to be announced), followed
by the traditional opening event, the Keynote Address. We've got some great
plans again for that opening night activity. Stay tuned!!
Computer sessions will be conducted on Thursday and Friday. Software and
hardware demos are scheduled for Saturday morning, with a vendor fair
slated for Saturday afternoon.
Reminder: Meals included in the registration price are Wednesday dinner
through Sunday breakfast, with the exception of Saturday dinner.
On Saturday night, attendees can dine on their own at one of the many fine
restaurants near the Avila campus, or join groups of KFesters at a local
favorite selected by the Roastee.
All children under 18 years must be accompanied by a parent or legal
guardian.
***
KFest 2002 is again being sponsored by InTrec Software, Inc., makers of
ProTERM telecommunications software for the Apple II and Macintosh.
If you have questions about KFest, or wish to make suggestions, you can
find answers via the Internet. Just send an email message to:
kfest-help@kfest.org
... or visit the KFest World Wide Web page: <http://www.kfest.org>
If you're thinking about attending KFest, you'll enjoy the KFest Internet
e-mail chat:
To subscribe to the KFest Information Mailing List, send email to:
<mailto: majordomo@kfest.org>.
Place the following text in the BODY of the message:
subscribe kfest
You will receive a confirmation e-mail. To be signed up for the list, you
will have to respond to this confirmation as the instructions dictate, and
then you will then be able send and read messages on the mailing list.
Sponsored by:
InTrec Software, Inc.
3035 E Topaz Circle
Phoenix, AZ 85028-4423
Voc:602/992-1345
Fax:602/992-0232
<kfest@intrec.com>
(KFESTSTEVE [Gouda], Cat 5, Top 4, Msg 24, Syndicomm A2)
[EOA]
[INN]------------------------------
EXTRA INNINGS |
-----------------------------------
About The Lamp! The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month on
""""""""""""""" the WEB at: http://lamp.a2central.com/
This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computers
using Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes. Apple II Forever!
* The Lamp! is (c) copyright 2002 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W. All
rights reserved.
* To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to
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* All issues of The Lamp! are available at The Lamp! Home Page,
http://lamp.a2central.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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reprinted verbatim and are included in this publication with permission
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Syndicomm, Ryan M. Suenaga, and Lyle Syverson do not guarantee the accuracy
or suitability of any information included herein. We reserve the right to
edit all letters and copy.
Material published in this edition may not be reprinted without the
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