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>>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<<
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THE LEAST YOU NEED TO KNOW
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"TIME IN A BOTTLE" VISITED
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AND THE BEST OF THE A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS
"Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998"
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The Lamp! An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 3, No. 9
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Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson
Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net
Internet Mail, Editor..............................lyle837@FoxValley.net
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
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September 15, 2000
HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER
Old Things Become New--------------------------------------------[OPN]
THE LEAST YOU NEED TO KNOW
First in a Series------------------------------------------------[LYN]
"TIME IN A BOTTLE" VISITED
An Awesome Software Collection-----------------------------------[FTE]
A2 DISTILLATIONS
Silvern Castle v5.1 Coming---------------------------------------[SCC]
Silvern Castle Freeware Announcement-----------------------------[SCF]
Forwarding Delphi Mail-------------------------------------------[FDM]
Time in a Bottle CD Collection - A2 Software on Your Shelf-------[TIB]
The Compleat Lamp! CD-ROM----------------------------------------[TCL]
Speccie's Home Page Switched-------------------------------------[SHP]
Sweet16 1.5.1 Released-------------------------------------------[SSR]
ImageMaker 2.0 Released------------------------------------------[IMR]
GShisen 1.2.1 in Database----------------------------------------[GID]
Watch for the CD-ROM "DeluxeWare"--------------------------------[WFL]
Impressive List of Programs for use With Marinetti---------------[ILP]
A Source for Cables----------------------------------------------[SFC]
First eBay Auction for Support of A2Central----------------------[FAS]
Byte Works CD... Would You Buy it?-------------------------------[BWC]
A Faster CD-ROM Drive for the Apple II---------------------------[FCD]
Hard Drive Problems----------------------------------------------[HDP]
A2Central.com Under Construction... Relax...---------------------[UCR]
Does This Make Me a Pirate?--------------------------------------[MMP]
Mystery Solved - The LANceGS Ethernet Card-----------------------[LEC]
What is an Ethernet Card Good For?-------------------------------[ECF]
Reading PC Generated ISO9660 CD on the Apple IIgs----------------[RIC]
Delphi Via Web Side With The Apple II----------------------------[DVW]
A2P DISTILLATIONS
Apple's Pascal 1.3 Manual Still Available------------------------[APM]
Apple II History - GEOS------------------------------------------[AHG]
LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
An Invitation----------------------------------------------------[LTE]
KFEST 2001
Keep it in Mind--------------------------------------------------[KFT]
EXTRA INNINGS
About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
[*] [*] [*]
READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make
""""""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this
issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find
something like:
EXTRA INNINGS
About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate
[INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].
[OPN]-------------------------------
HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER |
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From The Editor
"""""""""""""""
by Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>
Old Things Become New
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Looking down from High Above The Rock River you notice that some of
the bright shiny cars are really older cars that have been restored to
their original condition... or even enhanced so they look even more glitzy,
or do more than when they were new. The proud owners have "Made The Old
New."
So it is with the various CD collections of software for the Apple II
computers. The old, proven software has been collected and made available
in a compact, convenient form for our use.
[*] [*] [*]
[EOA]
[LYN]------------------------------
THE LEAST YOU NEED TO KNOW |
-----------------------------------
FIRST IN A SERIES
"""""""""""""""""
by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W, L.S.W.
[rsuenaga@sheppyware.net]
APPLE IIC MODEM CABLES
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Perhaps the best way to stay up to date with your Apple II computer is
to get online, meaning onto the Internet and onto Delphi and many of the
Apple II areas on the World Wide Web. Excepting the esoteric and eccentric
(including myself) who find ::ahem:: creative ways to use the Apple II for
communications, the way to get online is to hook up a modem. While a few
internal modems for the Apple II exist (none sold new), it's generally
accepted that an external modem is the way to go for Apple II use. Many
different brands and models of external modems exist--we won't get into
comparing or recommending these (although if you must ask, my favorite is
the 3Com/USR Courier V.Everything). What we will do, instead, is look at
some of the other issues around connecting a modem to an Apple II (in this
article, the Apple IIc), primarily addressing cables.
First off, let's remember something simple: the maximum speed of the
serial port on the Apple IIc is 19200 baud. There is, then, no need for a
modem faster than 14400 baud--perhaps even slower, which we will address
shortly--for use with these computers. Of course, if someone gives you a
28800, 33600, or 57600 modem, don't look a gift horse in the mouth--just
realize that at most, your serial port will top out at 19200, so there is
very little extra speed to squeeze out of a faster modem.
THE PINOUTS The Apple IIc uses a DIN 5 connector on its serial ports.
""""""""""" Therefore, any cable you attach to it must have a male DIN 5
connector.
Each of the five pins on the Apple IIc serial port has a different
electrical signal associated with it. As per Apple Computer, Inc.'s Tech
Info Library, the signals are as follows:
1-----Data Terminal Ready (DTR)
2-----Transmit Data (TXD)
3-----Signal Ground (GND)
4-----Receive Data (RXD)
5-----Data Set Ready (DSR)
Looking at the female plug on the rear of the IIc, the pins are as
follows;
(ASCII art follows, for the visually impaired)
----v----
/ \
/ \
| 5 1 |
| o 4 2 o |
\ o 3 o /
\ o /
--------
(End ASCII art)
In a nutshell, pins two and four actually do the moving of data; pin
three provides ground, and pins one and five do "handshaking"--making sure
that the computers are talking to each other properly and not missing any
(or many) characters. Handshaking is a way of saying, "Hey, you're going a
little too quickly for me--can you stop for a minute?" Once the computer
that requested the slow down is ready again, it sends another signal
saying, "Okay, I'm ready now, go ahead." There are many different ways to
do handshaking, both in hardware and software. At speeds exceeding 9600
baud, hardware handshaking--which is faster--is the preferred method;
however, due to the few signals available at its port for handshaking
(there are several other handshaking signals available on both the Apple
IIgs and Super Serial Card commonly used for telecommunications on the
Apple IIe), the Apple IIc does not appear to be able to reliably
communicate at 19200. It does work fine at 9600 baud.
Virtually every external modem on the market that does not have a
built-in cable (and I'm not very fond of such modems, because I want to
have the option of testing and replacing the cable if I'm having
difficulty) has a female DB 25 connector to attach a serial cable to.
Therefore, the other end of your Apple IIc modem cable needs to have a male
DB 25 connector.
Like the IIc's DIN 5 port, the pins on the DB 25 have signals
associated with them. Since there are more pins on a DB 25 connector than
a DIN 5 connector, there are, as you would expect, more signals. While we
are not going to detail every signal on the port, we will highlight some of
the more important ones.
2-----Transmit Data (TXD)
3-----Receive Data (RXD)
4-----Ready To Send (RTS)
5-----Clear To Send (CTS)
6-----Data Set Ready (DTS)
7-----Signal Ground (GND)
8-----Data Carrier Detect (DCD)
20-----Data Terminal Ready (DTR)
Looking at the female connector on the modem, the pins are as follows:
(ASCII art follows, for the visually impaired)
13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
_______________________________________
\ o o o o o o o o o o o o o /
\ o o o o o o o o o o o o /
----------------------------------
25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14
(End ASCII art)
THE CONNECTIONS So, to connect these two devices, computer serial port to
""""""""""""""" modem, a fairly simple cable is needed. The three basic
signals--GND, TXD, and RXD--are where we start.
Since we are communicating with a modem device, we know all we have to
do is match up the appropriate signals on the serial port--GND to GND, TXD
to TXD, and RXD to RXD. So, using a male DIN 5 plug and a male DB25
connector, our cable starts very simply:
Male DIN 5 Male DB25 Signal
1 DTR
2<-----------------------------> 2 TXD
3<-----------------------------> 7 GND
4<-----------------------------> 3 RXD
5 DSR
That was simple. Now that that's done, let's connect the other pins
for handshaking. While we could get into a largely technical discussion
about what all of these pins mean and the importance of connecting them,
since this is really "The Least You Need To Know", let's just hook up what
we need to hook up, like so:
Male DIN 5 Male DB25 Signal
+--------------> 4 RTS
1<-----------------------------> 20 DTR
2<-----------------------------> 2 TXD
3<-----------------------------> 7 GND
4<-----------------------------> 3 RXD
5<-----------------------------> 6 DSR
In this example, pins four and twenty on the DB25 male are shorted
together and connected to pin one on our DIN 5 connector.
THE PARTS You can obtain every single part (as well as tool) you need for
""""""""" this cable at Radio Shack or, usually more cheaply, at a local
electronics store.
The parts you need:
DB 25 male solder cup connector
DB 25 hood
DIN 5 male connector (usually comes with hood)
wire (I usually use Category 5 Ethernet cable, but that's just because
I have lots of that lying around my computer dungeon)
The tools you need:
Soldering iron
Solder
Screwdrivers
THE END? Hopefully not. As we continue our look at "The Least You Need
"""""""" To Know" we will continue to discuss different types of projects
you can do to keep your Apple II alive.
[EOA]
[FTE]------------------------------
"Time in a Bottle" Visited |
-----------------------------------
From The Editor
"""""""""""""""
by Lyle Syverson, Editor, _The Lamp!_ , <lyle@FoxValley.net>
Time in a Bottle is an awesome collection of software for the Apple II
computers. Most of the GEnie A2 Library on two CD's. Sitting on a shelf
near your Apple II.
The CD's are in HFS format so you will need to use a IIgs, a Mac, or a PC
with special utilities to open or copy the files.
To you use this collection with your IIgs you will need a CD-ROM drive.
One source would be:
Alltech Electronics - 760-724-2404 - fax 760-724-8808
2618 Temple Heights, Oceanside, CA 92056
I bought and installed this SCSI drive:
External 4x SCSI CD-ROM (Matsushita/Apple CD 600)
There are multiple ways to find the file you need. The one I especially
liked was the AllFiles.SHK found on each of the two CD's. When this file
is unshrunk you have a huge Appleworks Database which includes all the
files available. Use the search function to locate a file or group of
files to meet your needs.
Once you have your computer equipped with a CD-ROM drive you will want to
check on other CD's that are available for your Apple II. Ken Gagne has
written a great summery of what is available. You can access it at this
URL: http://www.a2central.com/features/2000-08/26-cdrom/
[EOA]
ASCII ART BEGINS
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| | | |___ ____ | | _____ __ ___ _ _ _____ | |
| | | ___ \ / __ \ | | /____ \ | v v | | v ___ \ | |
| | | | | | | /__\ \ | | ____| | | /\ /\ | | / \ \ | |
| | | | | | | _____| | | / ___ | | || || | | | | | |_|
| | | | | | | |_____ | |____ | |__| | | || || | | \___/ / _
|_| |_| |_| \______| |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/ |_|
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ASCII ART ENDS
[EOA]
DISTILLATIONS from Delphi A2
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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
[SCC]
SILVERN CASTLE v5.1 COMING
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Version v5.1 is now finished and should be showing up for download anytime
soon!
Bugs fixed:
-Using the wrong key on a locked door when you are carrying more than 8
keys now
works correctly.
-Reverting party slaughter on levels 1-2 now works properly. Since
reverting on these levels was without penalty it used the same flag value
as deleting the saved game-now there is a 1 year penalty to avoid this.
-Level 1 chests can now never be empty or always unlocked.
-Scenario descriptions updated to clear-up confusion about the different
scenarios.
Changed:
-Guild create character respects coinage preference when assigning initial
money.
-The missing message "<TAB>-next" is now shown at the store. Also, now this
command is only accepted when you actually have a second group of items
(it beeps otherwise).
New:
-You can scroll through the store faster with the open-apple-jump command.
Pressing OA and a number key jumps in large increments. Thanks to Bruce
Baker for suggesting this!
-Activating teleporter traps now are more noticeable-they display "ZOOM" on
the screen.
Jeff Fink
(FINKSTERJ, 33027, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
Just as v5.1 was going out the door, I found a last minute bug:
Entering the Guild when no characters exist loops forever. This has been
around since v4.0.
You can work around it by creating a dummy character in any pre-v4.0
release, then updating to v5.0 until the v5.1 release, which fixes this,
hits the A2 sites.
(FINKSTERJ, 33079, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[SCF]
SILVERN CASTLE FREEWARE ANNOUNCEMENT
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Important Freeware Announcement:
As of v5.1, I'm changing the status of Silvern Castle to a freeware
product.
Since the first release in July 1999, I have only received 9 paid
registrations, and none since Y2K. Therefore, Silvern Castle will no longer
have a shareware status.
However, to get a unique registration serial number and password to unlock
all features of Silvern Castle, and to access the additional scenarios, I
must insist you request one by email. In this way, I can notify those who
register with future update releases, and provide some limited support and
help. By the way, I'll certainly accept the original $15 fee, or any
donation, from anyone who wishes to support my programming efforts.
By requesting a >free< registration number, you will be sent instructions
on how to get the talisman from Ragon's Lab (you cannot complete the first
scenario without it), and you will be able to access future scenarios
(including the additional second and third ones that have already been
released). Also, by registering, the shareware patrols on the deeper
levels, as well as most of the annoying ambushes will no longer menace your
party.
I hope no one who paid the shareware fee is upset by this announcement. If
it wasn't for your support I wouldn't have released the 7 updates and 2
additional scenarios.
What I wish to accomplish by changing Silvern Castle to freeware status is
to increase the user base. If I don't get an additional viable support base
who appreciates my work, I will be left without any incentive to continue
further releases.
At this point, Silvern Castle rests in the hands of the A2 community.
Please support those who continue to support the A2.
II Infinitum,
Jeff Fink
{<mailto:finkjsc@yahoo.com> finkjsc@yahoo.com}
(FINKSTERJ, 33028, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[FDM]
FORWARDING DELPHI MAIL
""""""""""""""""""""""
> You can also forward your (Delphi) mail from here elsewhere...
For those of us with short memory retention, would you explain how to set
it up to forward? (again) Thanks.
Cindy
(CINDYADAMS, 32673, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
From the mail page, simply enter:
SET FORWARD IN%"""myemail@whereiwantmailsentto.com"""
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
(RSUENAGA, 32676, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[TIB]
TIME IN A BOTTLE CD COLLECTION - THE GEnie A2 SOFTWARE ON YOUR SHELF
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++++ ANNOUNCING ++++
Juiced.GS proudly presents ...
The Time in a Bottle CD Collection, a two-disc compilation based on the
Syndicomm Genie Apple II Roundtable and Apple II Programmers Roundtable
libraries.
Genie, the center of the Apple II universe for many years, finally shut
down in early 1999. But the thousands of library files -- almost 15,000 in
all -- were preserved by Syndicomm and are now available on CD-ROM to the
Apple II community exclusively through Juiced.GS.
The files were sorted, organized and prepared for distribution by Ryan
Suenaga, a longtime staffer in Syndicomm forums and a leader in the Apple
II community. He unveiled the CD project at KFest 2000 and made it
available to attendees during the KFest Vendor Fair.
Now, the set of two labeled CDs are available for purchase (in a jewel
case!) for the rest of the Apple II world. Packed onto the CDs are more
than 1.1 gigabytes of public domain, freeware, shareware and
reclassified/freely distributable commercial software. The CDs are in HFS
format, and all library file descriptions remain intact. In addition to
software files are the many forum archives preserved through the years.
Time in a Bottle can be purchased from Juiced.GS for $50, which includes
shipping to anywhere in the world.
To order, send check or money order in U.S. funds to:
Max Jones
JuicedGS
2217 Lakeview Drive
Sullivan, IN 47882
Credit card orders are also accepted at the Juiced.GS Online Order
Processing Site at:
http://order.kagi.com/?2ZM
Apple II Forever!!
-- Max Jones
-- Juiced.GS
-- http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs
(JUICEDGS, 32731, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[TCL]
THE COMPLEAT LAMP! CD-ROM
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++++ ANNOUNCING ++++
Juiced.GS proudly presents ...
The Compleat Lamp! -- a current, up-to-date CD-ROM collection of every
issue of GenieLamp A2, GenieLamp A2Pro and The Lamp! in every format it's
ever been done in. Comes in a jewel case, labeled and in HFS format.
The Compleat Lamp can be purchased from Juiced.GS for $15, which includes
shipping to anywhere in the world.
To order, send check or money order in U.S. funds to:
Max Jones
JuicedGS
2217 Lakeview Drive
Sullivan, IN 47882
Credit card orders are also accepted at the Juiced.GS Online Order
Processing Site at:
http://order.kagi.com/?2ZM
Apple II Forever!!
-- Max Jones
-- Juiced.GS
-- http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs
(JUICEDGS, 32732, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[SHP]
SPECCIE'S HOME PAGE SWITCHED
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Spectrum, COG and SAM support
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please note that I have switched my home pages to:
<http://www.btinternet.com/~ewannop/>
This site has always been active, but is now my main and only home pages.
The A2 WebRing now points to that address and there is no mirroring to the
Compuserve US site.
In due course I shall be shutting down my Compuserve account as I no longer
have any need of it. There is just no A2 traffic left on CIS to worry about
anymore, so I can save the monthly standing charge to keep the account...
Ewen Wannop - Speccie
Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.3 & Crock O' Gold 3.3
Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.5.1 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
Home Pages: http://www.btinternet.com/~ewannop/
(EWANNOP, 32913, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[SSR]
Sweet16 1.5.1 RELEASED
""""""""""""""""""""""
I have just released Sweet16 1.5.1.
Changes in this version:
1. The "magic" and "creator" fields of Universal Disk Image files are now
understood in both big and little endian formats, since some software
writes them backward.
2. The "data length" field of Universal Disk Image files is now filled out
correctly; current software generally ignores this field, but at least
now it's correct.
3. Control-Apple-F12 will reset the Apple IIgs.
4. The ROM file's name can be any of "Apple2GS.ROM", "APPLE2GS.ROM",
"Apple2GS.ROM2", or "APPLE2GS.ROM2".
5. You can now specify a port number when connecting with
serial-via-network by adding a comma and the port number to the dial
string. For example: "ATDT
{<http://www.apple.com,80"> www.apple.com,80"} to connect to port
80 at {<http://www.apple.com.> www.apple.com.}
6. Fixed the last known bug in the Mount Physical Disks code; that window
should no longer crash under any circumstances.
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net
(SHEPPY, 32985, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[IMR]
ImageMaker 2.0 RELEASED
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I've released ImageMaker 2.0. ImageMaker, briefly, is a utility for
creating disk image files for use in emulation software, or for making
archives of your disks. It supports Universal Disk Image (2img), DiskCopy
4.2, DiskCopy 6, and raw formats.
Changes in the new version:
1. Added support for batch mode, in which you can make lots of images
quickly from the same drive. After each image is made, the disk is
ejected and you're asked for another disk.
2. Now uses the DiskCopy creator code for DiskCopy 4.2 and DiskCopy 6
images.
3. Now supports 400 KB and 720 KB sizes for DiskCopy 4.2 images.
4. Plays the Bad Disk sound if an I/O error occurs, and Task Completed when
imaging finishes (except in batch mode).
5. Added the option to ignore bad blocks, and to add Universal Disk Image
files a list of the bad blocks.
6. Also, AppleShare volumes are no longer listed in the disk picker, since
you can't make images of them anyway.
ImageMaker is shareware and costs $5. You can get more information and
download the software at
<http://www.sheppyware.net/products/a2/imagemaker>.
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net
(SHEPPY, 33107, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[GID]
GShisen 1.2.1 IN DATABASE
"""""""""""""""""""""""""
Name: GSHISEN2K.BXY (Entertainment Software)
Date: 9-SEP-2000 04:13
By: KWS
Size: 34688
GShisen 1.2.1 (aka 2000). A popular strategy/puzzle game semi-similar to
mah jong. This version fixes a bug in the "New Game By ID" menu item, and a
bug where selecting a new tile set doesn't redraw the tiles properly.
Please contact the author before redistributing.
(TONYW1, 32996, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[WFL]
WATCH FOR THE CD-ROM "DeluxeWare"
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Now it can be told...
A few weeks back, I made mention of a CD-ROM from France that will soon be
available from Shareware Solutions II. The name of the CD is DeluxeWare,
named by and after its creators. So, their web site might be gone, but
Brutal Deluxe's legacy will live on...on CD-ROM!
Once available, a 2nd bonus CD - entitled "Le CD-ROM" - will be included
free-of-charge. Created by Brutal Deluxe for the French Apple IIGS User
Group, Le CD-ROM almost defies description. For the most part, it's really
intended to be viewed on a Mac or PC, as it contains QuickTime movies that
are Apple II related.
What's prevented me from making those 2 CDs available is that I feel it's
absolutely necessary for me to catalog DeluxeWare. And, with 600 or more
megabytes of Apple II/IIGS software on it, that's time consuming.
Once released, the cost will be $25 for the 2 CD package, and you'll be
able to order it via credit card from the SSII Kagi site. I'll let you all
know when.
And no, that's not the incredible earth-shaking announcement that
Shareware Solutions II has planned for the near future ;-)
Joe Kohn
http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko
(JOE_KOHN, 33054, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[ILP]
IMPRESSIVE LIST OF PROGRAMS FOR USE WITH MARINETTI
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
What programs are there for TCP/IP and the IIGs?
TCP/IP Stack:
------------
Title: Marinetti
Version: v2.0.1
Author: Richard Bennett
Available from: Marinetti Web Page
http://www.apple2.org/marinetti/
Web browsers:
------------
Title: Arachnid preview release 2 by Kim Howe
Version: Preview release 2
Author: Kim Howe
Available from: Kim Howe's Web Site
http://www.omninet.net.au/~khowe/arachnid/index.html
Title: Spectrum Internet Suite (aka SIS)
Version: v1.1 (v1.1.1 is in the works)
Author: Geoff Weiss
Available from: My eSource Web Site
http://www.myesource.com/sevenhills/applesoftware/sis/sis.htm
E-mail:
------
Title: Spectrum Automated Mailer (aka SAM)
Version: v1.2
Author: Ewen Wannop
Available from: Shareware Solutions II
http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko/sam.html
FTP:
---
Title: gwftp
Version: v1.1b2
Author: Geoff Weiss
Available from: Delphi's A2 Forum File Library
Shareware Solutions II
http://www.foxvalley.net/~joko/
Juiced.GS
http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs/
Telnet:
------
Title: Telnet
Version: v1.0
Author: Richard Bennett
Available from: Marinetti Home Page
http://www.apple2.org/marinetti/
(included in the Marinetti archive)
Title: Spectrum
Version: v2.3 (v2.2 was the first Marinetti aware version)
Author: Ewen Wannop
Available from: My eSource Web Site
http://www.myesource.com/sevenhills/applesoftware/iigs/sp.htm
Instant Chat:
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Title: gsAIM (AOL Instant Messenger client)
Version: v1.1
Author: Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd
Available from: Sheppyware Web Site
http://www.sheppyware.net/products/a2/gsaim/
Utilities:
---------
Title: finger, ping and whois
Version: I don't think they have versions
Author: Geoff Weiss
Available from: Included with gwftp and are shell based utilities
Delphi's A2 Forum Library
Shareware Solutions II
http://www.foxvalley.net/~joko/
Juiced.GS
http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs/
Title: TimeZone CDEV and Tool
Version: v1.0.3
Author: Geoff Weiss
Available from: Delphi's A2 Forum Library
Shareware Solutions II
http://www.foxvalley.net/~joko/
Juiced.GS
http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs/
Title: Hash Tool
Version: v1.0
Author: Geoff Weiss
Available from: Delphi's A2 Forum Library
Shareware Solutions II
http://www.foxvalley.net/~joko/
Juiced.GS
http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs/
Did I miss anything? :-)
There is also still more internet software in the works that haven't been
released yet. :-)
Jeff Blakeney
Dean of the Apple II University in the A2Pro forum
(JBLAKENEY, 33126, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
> Title: TimeZone CDEV and Tool
> Title: Hash Tool
These tools do not require Marinetti at all. They were developed to be used
for Marinetti-based applications, but they can be used by applications
which do not use Marinetti at all.
Geoff
(SISGEOFF, 33134, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[SFC]
A SOURCE FOR CABLES
"""""""""""""""""""
I came across an interesting catalog at the college I work at that
apparently is a source of cables and supplies, including cables for, as
they list on a page heading, the IIGS, and the Apple IIC/IIE. The company
is called A-1 Net, Inc. and their prices are very reasonable--in fact they
seem fairly inexpensive (yes, I know--you get what you pay for. :) )
I thought I'd offer their name, webpage and phone number as a source for
reference: Telephone: 909-595-0450 and webpage is at:
http://www.a1netusa.com You can find their entire catalog online, and if
you have a graphics web browser, you can find the Apple II stuff on page
11. They claim no minimum order size and no handling fee.
Some of the cables noted are DB25 serial to IWII, //c to modem, //c to
DB25 printer, and even an IBM PC to IW.
later.......Howard
(HKATZ, 33100, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[FAS]
FIRST eBay AUCTION FOR SUPPORT OF A2Central
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
A2Central.com's first eBay auction to attempt to raise funds for future
development has begun!
We're auctioning off a never-used, still-in-shrinkwrap RamWorks III card
for the Apple //e. Add 1 MB of RAM to your //e!
Visit
{<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=441642199>
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=441642199} to bid.
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net
(SHEPPY, 33146, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[BWC]
BYTE WORKS CD... WOULD YOU BUY IT?
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Hi all,
I was recently asked about the possibility of putting all of the Byte
Works' products onto a collection CD. I have my doubts about whether such a
thing would sell enough to make it worth doing, but I promised to check.
What we're talking about would be a CD with all of the Byte Works programs,
but not the APDA programs. A few Byte Works programs would not be included
because of contractual arrangements. This includes ORCA/Disassembler,
Talking Tools, Ugly Duckling and Design Master. All of the other Byte Works
products could be on the CD, both the Apple II and Apple IIGS versions.
This includes the ORCA programming languages, the Quick Click productivity
software and GSoft BASIC.
For a complete list, see
{<http://www.byteworks.org.> http://www.byteworks.org.}
Most of our documentation was done in Microsoft Word, and could be supplied
in Word format on the CD. Some of the Apple II software was done with some
really old word processors, and I probably can't recover the text in
machine readable format without more work that I am likely to put into this
project. There is one notable exception: Microsoft Word refuses to read the
ORCA/C 2.0 documentation. All I have is ASCII. It's possible, but a bit of
work, to create PDF files.
Considering the number of programs involved, the work is not unsubstantial,
so I would have to expect a lot of response to justify that effort.
I could make printed documentation available as well, but that would cost a
bit.
It's also barely possibly I might collect all of the source and make that
available on a separate release. That would require a license, signed in
advance, limiting the orders to those sent by mail.
With all of this in mind, if you are interested, please answer these
questions:
1. Is Mac OS HFS OK for the format, or would you need a dual-platform
(Mac/Windows) format?
2. What is the best format for the documentation? The reasonably viable
choices are Word, PDF and ASCII.
3. Would you want the CD to contain Apple II disk images or simply folders?
If the CD contains disk images, what program should be used? Think about
your answer to #1!
4. Would it bother you that the CD was a CD-R and not a mass-produced CD?
(It would be in a nice jewel case with appropriate printed covers.)
5. How much would you pay for this product?
6. Would you me interested in source code? If so, how much additional would
you pay?
Mike Westerfield
(BYTEWORKS, 33157, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[FCD]
A FASTER CD_ROM DRIVE FOR THE Apple II
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
I'm feeling a need for a faster CD player but I'm not sure which drives are
compatible so I'm hoping that if someone's using a drive faster than a 4x
with a Ramfast SCSI card they would be kind enough to tell me which drive
they're using.
Wayne
(WAYNEJ, 32700, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
Wayne,
I'm using a Toshiba 40x CDROM drive with my RamFAST. Works great. The
Toshiba model number is XM6401B, I believe.
Later,
- Aaron
(APULVER, 32729, GO COM A2)
<<<<<
"""""
Thanks Aaron, A 40x would do nicely. Hope they're still available new,
which would save a lot of searching.
Wayne
(WAYNEJ, 32733, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
Well, www.dirtcheapdrives.com has the XM6401B listed under CD-ROM Drives /
SCSI Internal CD ROM Drives, so you should be able to get one (from them or
elsewhere) without too much trouble. Put it in a case and you're ready to
go.
Later,
- Aaron
(APULVER, 32734, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
Yeahbut...at what point does the speed become irrelevant, since you're
constricted by the SCSI-1 interface and the processing power of the
machine?
Would that be at 16X? I'm not trying to nitpick, I'm just curious...because
the bare drive was still $77 and I was thinking if there was an older model
at say 30X, it might be just as fast since perhaps the other 10x were
wasted...
~Tarage
Email: {<mailto:tarage@bellsouth.net> tarage@bellsouth.net}
(TARAGE, 32906, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
Well the RamFAST and Apple HS SCSI can transfer a maximum of 1MB/sec on an
Apple IIGS, which means anything faster than a 6X-8X is pointless. Of
course that is talking about its peak rate, which is rarely ever attained,
with the average transfer rate being somewhere between 200-400K/sec (maybe
not that exactly, but _well_ below the peak rate). I would say a 4X or 6X
drive would be optimal, with a 2 or 3X still being quite respectable for
the GS's needs.
My main concern when looking for a SCSI CD-ROM is whether it can read most
CDR's (some drives have trouble with certain colors) and if it can play
audio CD's.
Mitchell Spector
{<mailto:spec@total.net> spec@total.net}
(SPECTOR1, 32910, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
> Yeahbut...at what point does the speed become irrelevant, since you're
> constricted by the SCSI-1 interface and the processing power of the
> machine? Would that be at 16X?
More like a 6x or 8x drive. On the other hand, the access time for a faster
drive is usually (but not always) less than for a slower drive. For me, the
access time is more important than the transfer rate. If you just want
something faster than a 2x drive, however, 40x is overkill (as I said).
In my case, I have other machines I could use the drive in if it didn't
work with the RamFAST, so why buy a slower drive?
Later,
- Aaron
(APULVER, 32926, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[HDP]
HARD DRIVE PROBLEMS
"""""""""""""""""""
One of my club members (OACC) has a Western Digital Hard Drive. External,
model WD40AP. He had not used it for some time and now he can NOT get it to
boot up. He has data that he would like to retrieve. Does anyone have
suggestions to get the drive to work again.
When trying to boot as the primary drive, SCSI error msg's appear. We tried
to boot with 3.5 inch drive disks and that worked. The desktop listed
everything but the Western Digital HD. The light would come on for a bit,
but no action on the Desk Top.
Any suggestions? We are using an Apple ][GS ROM1 and Apple High Speed SCSI
card.
Mack
(MACKDUNCAN, 32765, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
Turn it upside down, give it a violent shake.
It may start up, y'never know.
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
(RSUENAGA, 32770, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
If the trouble was only with bad blocks, the desktop would ask if you want
to eject or format it. This would point to the drive being stuck. Shaking
might loosen it.
Also make sure the 3.5 boot disk has scsi drivers. An error message usually
happens if the drivers are missing and the scsi card is detected.
I would run the scsi utilities just to see what they say when they look at
the drive. Make sure a write isn't done...
- James
(JAMES3000, 32773, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[UCR]
A2Central.com UNDER CONSTRUCTION... RELAX...
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
So we're all in "hurry up and wait" mode, fretting over something we all
care about, wishing we had more input into a project that is still in
development (and that someone else "owns").
Opinions (indirectly sanctioned, yet officially unsolicited) were voiced,
tempers were tested and people got miffed.
It's a little early for folks to be getting uptight (if any reason exists
at all) - nothing tangible has really happened yet that warrants this kind
of anxiety or hostility.
Let us not forget who is involved here - a group of well-meaning, devoted
Apple II users - a community of friends.
Sorry for the sermon, but I think this thread has just been a tremendous
waste of everybody's emotional energy. Let's cool off.
(SFAHEY, 32938, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[MMP]
DOES THIS MAKE ME A PIRATE?
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Hi everyone,
I've been using Apple II computers since I was 6 years old. (18 years).
I've seen the flamewars regarding piracy and copying, and the Asimov
archive, and I just have to ask a question...
Does it make me a pirate...
...to archive all of my disintegrating 5.25 disks onto my GS's hard drive,
to my PC, to a CD-ROM, in order to make sure that I don't lose anything
more out of my collection?
...to buy a copy of a $100.00 (back in the 80s) software package for fifty
cents, and then to archive it so I'll have it?
...to not throw away copied software that was -given- to me by friends
chucking their Apple II equipment, or not throw away copied disks bought
with an Apple II at a yardsale, and archiving these too?
...to enjoy the games that I was given, or bought secondhand (at
aforementioned yard sales), nearly twenty years after some of it was
written?
Or... should I just throw everything I've got away, and my Apple II
equipment with it? While I could conceivably write my own games and
software, or buy the few new titles that come out, should I adhere to a
strict morality and throw out all that which makes my Apple II a viable
platform (for me) just for the sake of overthrowing software piracy?
I honestly don't know.
I support software authors in the view that copying software is a bad
thing. But when the authors, software companies, and copies of some
software (NOTE: *some* software) is long gone, is it truly a crime to keep
it, even though the copy that was received is exactly that, an illegal
copy?
I am, and probably always will be, an average Apple II user. I use my copy
of AppleWorks 2.0 on a 128k IIe and my IIgs for my personal journal, and to
write poetry and such. I play games like Master of the Lamps because
they're the only games I really enjoy. I use my bound copy of an archive of
OpenApple and A2Central magazines when I'm stuck with a problem. And I know
enough Applesoft Basic to write whatever simple utility that I think I
need.
But, do I have to give all of this up? Do I have to throw away all of the
VCR tapes I've made of movies and TV shows because they're copies and not
bought from NBC or CBS or whoever? Do I throw away the audio tapes given to
me by friends because I never bought the albums? Do I burn my A2Central
archive book because I didn't even know about them when they existed? Do I
throw away my Apple II equipment because I never bought anything from Apple
itself in my life?
Maybe I'm going to extremes, but as I said, I'm an average user who would
like to know what he can do to have his software, and eat it too (so to
speak).
(I don't, just for reference, give out my software collection. It is mine,
for my use, and for those in my household to use when they are on one of my
Apple IIs.)
Josef
(JOSEFCUB, 32306, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
In message 'Does it make me a pirate?' JOSEFCUB said:
> Maybe I'm going to extremes, ....
Josef,
I think that's the operative phrase in your post. I believe that you ARE
going to extremes.
Those who publicly and steadfastly oppose Apple II piracy, and are not
afraid to speak out about it, are primarily targeting their outrage at a
few online archive creators and maintainers whose standards for providing
access to software titles are lax, if non-existent. They post titles on a
whim without regard to the copyright holder's wishes, then claim it's up to
the copyright holder to object rather than their moral responsibility to
ask permission first. Twisted reasoning, to be sure.
The pirates try to shift the argument away from their actions by alleging
that anti-piracy folks are attacking normal Apple II users. That's absurd,
but in some cases the claim manages to divert attention from the real issue
at hand.
You can do your part to uphold reasonable standards of responsibility by
acknowledging that online archive creators/maintainers must gain permission
to upload out-of-print commercial software titles before doing so. Is that
too much to ask?
Max Jones
Juiced.GS
http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs
(JUICEDGS, 32311, GO COM A2)
<<<<<
"""""
Max,
You are absolutely right... and I appreciate that you explained things in a
way I could understand. The way the archive maintainers are treating the
software /is/ wrong, and claiming the authors/opponents of piracy attack
normal users is wrong. My part is to not support such sites, by visiting
their site or downloading the software contained there.
[Semi-off-topic: Funny thing is, I never actually managed to get into
Asimov, or make sense of it... I guess it's just as well, learning (now
that I've read a few (hundred) posts here.) about the site containing
pirated software. Nor, as a matter of a fact, have I gotten any PC-to-GS
utilities to work when I've downloaded GS or 8-bit software... I download
with a Mac, to a ProDOS disk, and pray that GS-ShrinkIt! will deal with the
file...]
Thank you, Max, for your explanations and for helping me understand the
issue more.
Take Care!
Josef
...who would probably jump off of the nearest bridge if he had to burn his
A2Central archive book anyhow. It's also a great historical reference to
the computer politics of the years it covered.:)
(JOSEFCUB, 32316, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
> Does it make me a pirate...
> ...to archive all of my disintegrating 5.25 disks onto my GS's hard
> drive, to my PC, to a CD-ROM, in order to make sure that I don't lose
> anything more out of my collection?
Heavens no. The copyright law specifically allows for that sort of copying.
("Shrinkwrap" software licenses are nonsense, and despite what the
publishers would have you think, not legally binding at ALL.)
> ...to buy a copy of a $100.00 (back in the 80s) software package for
> fifty cents, and then to archive it so I'll have it?
Perfectly legal, price when new has nothing to do with it.
> ...to not throw away copied software that was -given- to me by friends
> chucking their Apple II equipment, or not throw away copied disks bought
> an Apple II at a yardsale, and archiving these too?
Nothing wrong with ARCHIVING, whether you own it legally or not.
> ...to enjoy the games that I was given, or bought secondhand (at
> aforementioned yard sales), nearly twenty years after some of it was
> written?
Why on earth would you think THAT would make you a pirate, that's what the
stuff is for.
> Or... should I just throw everything I've got away, and my Apple II
> equipment with it? While I could conceivably write my own games and
> software, or buy the few new titles that come out, should I adhere to a
> strict morality and throw out all that which makes my Apple II a viable
> platform (for me) just for the sake of overthrowing software piracy?
Using (and archiving) old software isn't piracy, no one ever said it was.
The views of the anti pirate faction are often misrepresented by the
pirates.
Gary R. Utter
(UTTER, 32317, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[LEC]
MYSTERY SOLVED - THE LANceGS ETHERNET CARD
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Many of you have probably forgotten by now, but a few years ago Shawn
Behrens posted some pictures and speculation about a "mystery card" that
was being worked on for the Apple II.
Well, looks like it is no longer is a mystery. :) (and it certainly turned
out _not_ to be the hoax many of us, myself included, suspected it might
be).
Look at this photos in Behrens' page, especially not the final picture at
the bottom of the page:
{<http://people.delphi.com/sbehrens/mystery.htm>
http://people.delphi.com/sbehrens/mystery.htm}
Then jump over to Sheppy's A2Central page, at this URL, comparing the first
picture image shown and draw your own conclusions:
{<http://www.a2central.com/site/lancegs/install/index.html>
http://www.a2central.com/site/lancegs/install/index.html}
Mitchell Spector
{<mailto:spec@total.net> spec@total.net}
(SPECTOR1, 32492, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
Yes. ///SHH Systeme apparently tried two or three times to build an
ethernet card, each time refining the design somewhat, eventually
culminating in the LANceGS card that's just starting to trickle into the
hands of lustful Apple II users.
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net
(SHEPPY, 32493, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
> 20KBytes/sec or more.
I seriously doubt the IIgs can ever get to 10 megabits per second. The
biggest factor is the 1 MHz bus. There is only so much data that you can
pass over that.
Also, gwftp can probably be optimized for the ethernet card to give it
better performance. It is optimized for a PPP dial-up connection right now.
I remember Fetch being optimized at one point for higher speed networks so
I'm sure I can so the same for gwftp. Unlike some people, I still have to
wait for mine ;)
Geoff
(SISGEOFF, 32573, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
Based on some tests I did opposing the ones Sheppy did, it appears that on
substantially large files the LANceGS is currently about 4-5x as fast as a
best case null modem 56k connect.
When the cards actually get to me, I'll do some more formal testing.
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
(RSUENAGA, 32635, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
And we should point out that gwftp is tuned for dialup, not for ethernet.
Once Geoff has his LANceGS card, I expect we'll see a gwftp update to
improve performance.
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net
(SHEPPY, 32647, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
> gwftp is tuned for dialup, not for ethernet.
Not only should gwftp be tuned for ethernet, but it is possible that
Marinetti needs to be tuned as well. At the very worst speed, gwftp should
operate similarly to file transfer via Appleshare.
And since we are taking about ethernet tuning, I wonder what the Zip
setting should be for the slot with LANceGS--slow or fast?
Geoff
(SISGEOFF, 32651, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
According to Joachim, the ZipGS speed setting shouldn't make any
difference, due to the method by which the card's data is fetched by the
software through I/O space.
On the other hand, he suspects that a TWGS might help slightly.
However, again, the main bottleneck right now is the software. He fully
believes that with proper software, the card should be capable of speeds
well in excess of the 100KByte/sec range.
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net
(SHEPPY, 32672, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
Thanks Sheppy, I understand a teensy bit better. But I'm still trying to
understand how a //gs will be recognized on a pc network.
But a //gs would be able to use a dsl or cable modem. Would proterm work if
I just put it into online mode? I guess I'd need a shell account to log
onto.
Bruce
(BRB, 32693, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
Unless ProTERM is updated to support the LANceGS card, you would have to
use Spectrum to access your DSL or cable modem (I've done this myself).
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net
(SHEPPY, 32701, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[ECF]
WHAT IS AN ETHERNET CARD GOOD FOR?
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Excuse my ignorance but what is an ethernet card for? Would I have any use
for one, owning two GSs and a IIe with no other computers nor any plans to
get any other ones?
MT Steve
(S_BERNBAUM, 32658, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
There are two things an ethernet card is good for:
1. Connecting to other computers in your home.
2. Connecting to the Internet using a cable modem or DSL modem (or other
broadband Internet connection).
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net
(SHEPPY, 32666, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[RIC]
READING PC GENERATED ISO9660 CD ON THE Apple IIgs
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
I didn't realize that I could read a PC generated ISO9660 CD on the GS.
Won't there be problems with partition size, or is it like a HFS volume as
far as the GS is concerned ?
And I assume multi-session is out of the question !
thanks,
Mark.
(LUKE65816, 32892, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
Partition sizes don't particularly matter. To be honest, I'm not sure about
multisession discs; I do know that you can read CDs with multiple
partitions though.
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net
(SHEPPY, 32893, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
The IIgs has been able to read ISO9660 CDs even longer than it has been
able to read HFS partitions.
> Won't there be problems with partition size, or is it like a HFS volume
> as far as the GS is concerned ?
It's like an ISO9660 volume as far as the IIgs is concerned :)
Again, however, all the naming conventions must be followed or the IIgs
will choke on it. I know in this day and age folks are used to really long
file and volume names with all kinds of characters in them, but if they
expect the IIgs to read the CD, they have to go back and look at the
standard.
> And I assume multi-session is out of the question !
I don't know anything 'bout using multi session CDs, sorry.
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
(RSUENAGA, 32896, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
I tried multisession CDs a while back with no luck on my Apple IIs or any
friends that tried reading them. My original thought was to use
multisessions as a way of partitioning a CD. I thought it would be a great
to have each of the 6.0.1 installation disks on a separate partition.
Instead, since I could only read one session, I produced a few 800k CDs
before I realized I could make single session partitioned CDs.
Wayne
(WAYNEJ, 32908, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
[DVW]
Delphi VIA WEB SIDE WITH Apple IIgs
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Question from the editor...
Is there a way to access the Delphi web side using an Apple II computer?
>>>>>
"""""
Yes. Use Lynx 2.7.1 or later.
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
(RSUENAGA, 32962, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
> Yes. Use Lynx 2.7.1 or later.
Well... I tried it. After 30 minutes I could not even find a place to log
on... So I gave up!
Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>
Editor, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
(LYLE837, 32965, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
I found it in like twenty seconds :)
http://login.prospero.com/dir-login/index.asp?getDPref=0&webtag=APPLE2&lgnD
ST=http%3A%2F%2Fforums%2Edelphi%2Ecom%2Fapple2%2Fstart%2F
Just go to the "enter message board" link and hit it. you get prompted to
sign in.
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
(RSUENAGA, 32966, GO COM A2)
>>>>>
"""""
> Well... I tried it. After 30 minutes I could not even find a place to log
> on... So I gave up!
Here's how I do it. First I enter the URL
{<http://www.delphi.com\apple2\messages.> www.delphi.com\apple2\messages.}
Lynx will show a page to select which frame I want. You should see
selections for brandframe, navframe, and lower. Select navframe.
The contents of navframe will be displayed by Lynx. Select Login. You'll be
brought to another page.
Select the already a user option. There's yet another page.
Enter your user name, password, and then hit login. You should see the
original page.
Select the lower frame. Select the left frame and you're there.
Easy as pie eh? And now you know why most Lynx users consider frames a work
of the devil.
Liam Busey
(BUSEY, 32980, GO COM A2)
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"""""
I will be trying to make Arachnid able to access Delphi, but it will take a
lot of work. My guess is text side access will break well before I finish.
:(
Kim Howe
khowe@omninet.net.au
(KHOWE1, 32967, GO COM A2)
[EOA]
DISTILLATIONS from Delphi A2PRO
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by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>
[APM]
APPLE'S PASCAL 1.3 MANUAL STILL AVAILABLE
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Apple's Pascal 1.3 manual was essentially copied, too, and it is definitely
huge. As it turns out, like all of the Apple II APDA products, it is also
still available.
See {<http://www.byteworks.org> http://www.byteworks.org} for details.
Mike Westerfield
(BYTEWORKS, 3192, GO COM A2P)
[EOA]
[AHG]
APPLE II HISTORY - GEOS
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Dr. Dobb's programming magazine mentioned the Apple 2GS this month. It was
an historical/political article. If my memory serves me right, they got the
context of the 2GS wrong. They were talking about graphical user interfaces
on top of operating systems and said that the GEOS system came out for the
2GS. My recollection is that GEOS was for the Apple IIe. Was there ever a
2GS specific version?
- James
(JAMES3000, 3182, GO COM A2P)
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"""""
No, there was never a IIgs specific version of GEOS that I ever heard of.
However, not only did that article use the wrong model name for their
example (and even spelled that wrong, apparently) they also didn't get a
very good example of a GUI on top of an operating system. I've been lead to
believe that GEOS uses its own disk operating system that happens to have a
very similar structure (almost exact but adding the ability to use spaces
in file names) to ProDOS. So, from what I understand, GEOS is a complete
operating system on its own.
Jeff Blakeney
Dean of the Apple II University in the A2Pro forum
(JBLAKENEY, 3185, GO COM A2P)
>>>>>
"""""
The PC version of GEOS (although I think it went by a different name) was a
GUI shell that sat on top of MS-DOS.
GEOS on the Apple II sat on top of a heavily-hacked version of ProDOS.
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net
(SHEPPY, 3187, GO COM A2P)
[EOA]
LETTERS TO THE EDITOR:
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[LTE]
AN INVITATION
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Express your opinions about the comings and goings in the world of the
Apple II computers.
Send your comments to Lyle Syverson, Editor <lyle@FoxValley.net>
The Editor reserves the right to edit any material submitted.
The Editor reserves the right to reject any material he considers
unsuitable for publication in _The Lamp!_.
[EOA]
[KFT]
KFest 2001
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Plan Ahead
~~~~~~~~~~
KFest 2001 is set for July 25-29 (early arrivals on July 24) at Avila
College. Put it on your calender and start saving your money. You will be
glad you did.
[EOA]
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About The Lamp! The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month in
""""""""""""""" the Database of the II Scribe Forum on the Delphi online
service (GO CUS 11).
This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computers
using Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes. Apple II Forever!
* The Lamp! is (c) copyright 2000 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W. All
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