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>>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<<
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HARDWORKING HARDWARE: Hewlett Packard Deskjets And The Apple II
AND THE BEST OF THE A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS
"Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998"
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The Lamp! An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 2, No. 10
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Publisher & Editor.......................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.
Internet Email....................................thelamp@sheppyware.net
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
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October 15, 1999
OPENING PITCH
We Are Where Our Hearts Will Take Us --------------------------- [OPN]
A FUNNY THING HAPPENED [FOR]
The Heat Is On ------------------------------------------------- [HET]
Miscellanea [MSC]
Rumor Mill ----------------------------------------------------- [RMR]
Public Postings [PUB]
Best Of The Best ----------------------------------------------- [BOB]
A2Pro_DUCTIVITY
Checking out A2PRO on Delphi ----------------------------------- [A2P]
HARDWORKING HARDWARE
Hewlett Packard Deskjets And The Apple II by Lyle Syverson ----- [HWH]
EXTRA INNINGS
About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
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READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make
""""""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this
issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find
something like:
EXTRA INNINGS
About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]
To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate
[INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].
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: Don't play "stupid with me... I'm better at it! :
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From The Editor
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by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
[thelamp@sheppyware.net]
WE ARE WHERE OUR HEARTS WILL TAKE US
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Yes, I belong to the Hawai'i Macintosh and Apple Users' Society, but
no, I don't go to many of their functions. Okay, I go to maybe four a
year, but this was one I had to see.
Long-time Apple fanatic Bryan Villados brought out what he calls his
"Apple Museum" for a day, for a trip down memory lane for most but a ride
down main street for the Apple II faithful.
From photos of an Apple I to a real live Apple ][+, //e, //c, IIgs, a
Lisa and a bunch of Macs, from the original to the 20th Anniversary, Bryan
pulled out all the stops on a forty foot display. I'll get a chance to
compare Bryan's museum to the Apple II Museum when I run up to San Diego
and hang out with Tony Diaz pre-KFest in July, but for a few hours on a hot
Sunday in October, I was where I had rarely been anywhere but online in
many years.
I was home.
Thanks to Bryan for putting this on, and for standing by what the rest
of us believed.
When we said Apple II Forever, we really meant it.
[*] [*] [*]
I Went Home Department: I announced last month that the December issue
of _The Lamp!_ would be the last under my editorship.
Coincidently, in this issue we have the first published Apple II
article by Lyle Syverson.
Or maybe it's not much of a coincidence. You see, Lyle is The Chosen
One, the person who will succeed me as editor of _The Lamp!_.
I plan to continue my publishing duties and do a (hopefully) monthly
column. And I plan to do one more thing as well--usher in the next
generation of Apple II writers. Welcome.
Ryan
thelamp@sheppyware.net
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A FUNNY THING HAPPENED. . . . |
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Checking out A2 on Delphi
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by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
[thelamp@sheppyware.net]
* The Heat Is On
* Miscellanea
* Rumor Mill
* Public Postings
* Best Of The Best
THE HEAT IS ON
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[*] Entertainment Software ....... Silvern Castle Keeps Going
[*] Apple Operating System ....... Clones And ProDOS 8
[*] Hardware Hacker ....... More SCSI And More SCSI
[*] Vendors & Tech Support ....... Slow Printing From AW5?
[*] Telecommunications ....... Oops! Modem MGR Manual Fixed!
MISCELLANEA
"""""""""""
HOW TO DECODE MIME FILES There's a program for the Apple ][GS called
"""""""""""""""""""""""" 'StolenBase' that can translate MIME-encoded
files. Actually, you have a choice of an NDA or a standalone application.
Both are here in the A2 database. As I recall, the most recent version of
Spectrum will also handle MIME.
With StolenBase (which I generally use, since ANSITerm is my preferred
Apple II communications program), it is generally sufficient to save the
letter containing the text under its own file name. StolenBase can usually
detect the MIME headers and decode the file. Sometimes, with multiple MIME
enclosures in a file, it may be necessary to edit the mail message to
eliminate extraneous stuff before StolenBase can work. Not really difficult
to do.
MIME files are encoded so that 8-bit data can be sent across systems that
only support 7-bit data structures. The contents of the encoded file may or
may not be usable on an Apple ][GS. Although there are more options, these
are what I generally use when presented with the contents of a MIME file:
Graphics - SuperConvert - can handle GIF or JPEG graphics. For a quick-and
dirty look at GIF files, ShowMe! can show some GIF files as well.
Text - Generally, MIME-encoded text files are from word processing
programs, sent that way to preserve style information. Unless you get a
word processing file that has the text in blocks that you can read (offset
away from style information), you are pretty much out of luck. The only
exception would be Rich Text Format (RTF) files. EgoEd 2.0 NDA can do a
pretty respectable conversion of RTF files, within the limitations of the
Teach file format. If the file is not larger than 32K, the RTF translator
for GraphicWriter III does a bit better job. Early Word 6.0 files were
actually RTF format, so you may get lucky if your correspondent is not
using the most recent version of Word.
Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth)
Woofed to you by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm via Bernie ][ the Rescue!
(DZAHNISER, 25892, GO COM A2)
>>>>> MIME files are generally encoded with Base 64 format.
"""""
You will need a mail or other program to receive them, just as you would
for any other form of email.
But once you have the data on your IIgs, then Spectrum 2.1 and onwards,
will extract the encoded data using the built-in decode function from the
black apple menu. It is actually the BinHEX XCMD that is doing the work
here, and it can also handle BinSCII, BinHex 4.0 and UUencode data as well.
Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 17 Sep 1999 - 313 days till Y2KFest
Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2
Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
(EWANNOP, 25894, GO COM A2)
>>>>> What I do, since I have a shell account, is let my email program
""""" (pine) decode the mime-formatted file, and then I save it to my
home directory. From there it's a snap to get the file to my //e using
zmodem. :)
Later........Howard
(HKATZ, 25898, GO COM A2)
>>>>> Attached files are actually embedded within the message when it is
""""" sent, so it is all one hunk of text. Although a Mac or PC mail
program may show and save an encoded file as a separate file, on the IIgs
you will receive it as part of the mail message itself.
The BinHQX XCMD will search any given file or text for the unique markers
that start the various encoding methods. It therefore ignores any text or
message that precedes those markers...
If you are using COG 3.x, and reading mail, then you simply click on the
'tick' button to automagically decode an attached file. If you are
elsewhere in COG, or using Spectrum manually, then just 'copy' and 'paste'
the encoded text to a file on disk and point the BinHQX decoder at it...
Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 21 Sep 1999 - 309 days till Y2KFest
Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2
Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
(EWANNOP, 26011, GO COM A2)
Y2K FOR THE APPLEWORKS CALENDAR Folks
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
recent mention of the oa-q oa-m INIT in AppleWorks reminds me I have the
2000 patch ...
so here it is ...
APPLEWORKS DESKTOP CALENDAR YEAR '00 COMMAND PATCH
for The AppleWorks Gazettes' Calendar Init
-------------------------------------------------------
The year is changed to 2000. The month of February is changed to contain 29
days (a leap year) and the starting weekday of each month is changed to the
appropriate weekday for 2000.
Use your favorite block editor (e.g. ProSel's Zap/Block Warden) and follow
the file 'I.CALENDAR' (a 1-block file) to change the following bytes:
BYTE TO COMMENT
----- -- -------
$0010 $30 00 }
$0011 $30 00 } FILE NAME
$004D $32 2 }
$004E $30 0 }
$004F $30 0 }
$0020 $30 0 } 2000
$0093 $1D 29 Days
$009E $32 Jan - Sat
$009F $22 Feb - Tue
$00A0 $26 Mar - Wed
$00A1 $32 Apr - Sat
$00A2 $1E May - Mon
$00A3 $2A Jun - Thu
$00A4 $32 Jul - Sat
$00A5 $22 Aug - Tue
$00A6 $2E Sep - Fri
$00A7 $1A Oct - Sun
$00A8 $26 Nov - Wed
$00A9 $2E Dec - Fri
Then write the block back to the disk.
PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BACKUP BEFORE YOU DO THIS.
That should do the trick for 2000.
Kevin Noonan
gswombat@delphi.com
(GSWOMBAT, 26122, GO COM A2)
THE ORIGINAL SWEET16 For the sake of completeness, I should mention that
"""""""""""""""""""" sweet-16 was *originally* a 16-bit virtual CPU
invented by Steve "Woz" Wozniak, with an interpreter written in 6502
assembly for 8-bit Apple IIs. Sort of like a Java bytecode interpreter
years before Java was thought up.
(KWS, 26221, GO COM A2)
HISTORICAL NOTES ON THE CIS LIBRARIES Interesting side issue with the
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Compuserve libraries (and there are
a few former/present Compuserve regulars around who can correct me if I
misspeak, considering I was only there for a few months):
My understanding was that the Compuserve libraries weren't permanent
repositories, but rather were LUFO based, meaning that if files weren't
very popular they were eventually expunged.
-
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
(RSUENAGA, 26198, GO COM A2)
>>>>> I think you're right about files that weren't popular on CIS fading
""""" away, but I also seem to remember that there was a way to "protect"
files also. For example, most if not all of the NAUG PD disks were uploaded
to Compuserve, and didn't disappear, even tho most of them probably weren't
downloaded on a regular basis.
None of the files I uploaded ever disappeared either - I guess they were
accessed just enough.....
Later..........Howard
(HKATZ, 26208, GO COM A2)
>>>>> In theory, any file that was not downloaded for a year was
""""" automatically deleted. The "automatic" part of that didn't work all
that reliably, but some management types would survey the libraries and
give the sysops grief if "proper maintainence" wasn't done. (So, there was
a "bot" that was supposed to expunge old files, and sysops were supposed to
check their libraries and make sure that that was properly done.)
I was a sysop there for a while, but I never worked in the MAUG areas, so
I'm not sure how serious the guy who was above Neil was about that. My
point is that it WAS CIS policy to delete files in the libraries, and it
was a policy that they took seriously.
As I recall, some of the MAUG librarians made a point of downloading older
files on a regular basis, just to keep the "fresh" for management and bots.
Gary R. Utter
(UTTER, 26215, GO COM A2)
PLANNING THE FUTURE I think that people get carried away with what might
""""""""""""""""""" be possible here. Both Bernie and Ernie have taken
great pains to 'emulate' a real IIgs. That means that 'new features' will
not be, and should never be added to the IIgs side, so it changes what
appears as a 'real' IIgs to software.
It would be OK to add slot emulation, so 'plug'-in' software could emulate
plug in cards, such as the Second Sight card, but it would certainly not be
appropriate to build in such emulation directly. The IIgs never had such an
screen emulation, so why should an emulator?
As a programmer, I expect a standard IIgs environment when my programs run,
not some other computer that might crash my software...
Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Wed 1 Sep 1999 - 329 days till Y2KFest
Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2
Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
(EWANNOP, 25499, GO COM A2)
NON-UNITED STATES APPLE II USERS Well.... during my IIGS time I've also
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" bought almost any piece of software
which was developed and sold. Some of those programs I couldn't use, either
because I didn't really have a need for it, or because it was just unusable
outside of the US...
All this fine IIGS software which is/was developed now/recently is several
years late. Now the base for selling such software has eroded and isn't
there any more.
But the programmers contributed to the demise of the installed IIGS base,
too. Was there any program which was available in a language other than
English? Yes, there was one... Quick Click Calc, the ONLY exception. Was
there a program which didn't do all things the American way? Worst example
to name: Addressed for Success...
Had the Apple IIGS programmers realized there are countries in existence
outside of the US, and had made international programs, there would be many
more active IIGS users left nowadays.
This is just my not so humble opinion... your opinion may differ...
Udo
Ceterum censeo Microsoft esse delendam
(UDOHUTH, 26082, GO COM A2)
>>>>> We knew there were Apple users outside the US, but we never had any
""""" real idea of how many, or how to reach them. Part of the blame for
that probably lies with Apple, but most of it has to do with
communications.
In the days when the GS was in production, was as thriving a platform as it
ever got to be, the number of European users who were in contact with the
US community was vanishingly small.
I knew of TWO who actually were able/willing to communicate with us.
I'm not trying to lay blame here, I'm trying to say that it was not mere
chauvinism that kept the communities separate, nor even the language
barriers, but the fact that there was so little communication with overseas
users that most people didn't even realize there was a MARKET there.
The Apple II community existed then as it does now, almost entirely on
line, and only CompuServe connected to overseas users at ALL.
Gary R. Utter
(UTTER, 26086, GO COM A2)
>>>>> Another point of view...
"""""
The release of NiftySpell was held up for several months so that the
programmer could add foreign language support.
When I demoed NiftySpell at Kfest, I was floored by the question: "How well
will NiftySpell work when spell checking words in Swedish?"
How the heck would I or the programmer know how well NiftySpell worked with
Swedish words? ;-)
I picked myself up off the floor, and when I got home, suggested to the
programmer that if there was a way to make NiftySpell work a little better
with foreign languages, we should go out of our way to do it.
We did. And now, Martin Landhage can now use NiftySpell when he is using
his IIGS to write in his native language.
I think that with NiftySpell, we more than "went the extra kilometer" to
help our non-native English speaking IIGS friends.
Joe Kohn
(JOE_KOHN, 26096, GO COM A2)
>>>>> generally, i think udo is right. while, in the beginning, it might
""""" have been understandable computers essentially were english
related, after it wasn't that way. and for sure (read mitch's msg, he's
right on this IMHO) it's an apple responsibility, there was so few foreign
language marketing around the apple. one of the reasons, of M$ success is,
they offered, early, localized versions of their software, while OTOH a
german user still had to stay with Lissner' AppleWorks 1.2 german (i think
there are no later german versions, but not sure. Udo?)
in the 80s, for many reasons, it was difficult to communicate with american
user groups from here: we had to learn the language, we had to struggle
with enormous phone costs (because of telecomm monopolies) etc. etc. but
there was a user base. btw, just a simple question: who of you american
apple II folks here knows a second, third etc. language. and then, apple
europe forced the mac, offering localized new software, while apple II
remained essentially an english centric product. you cannot go to german
schools, offering computers and software, unable to speak and write not
even the localized alphabeta. i still remember, i spent hours and hours to
figure out, how to print out from an apple ][ german umlauts *AND* the
standard ascii set :)). not to speak of the italian and french accents i
needed for my work (as translator). multiscribe on an apple //c was a -
painfully slow - way around, but without footnotes, index etc., while
wordstar cpm was expensive and largely outdated.
anyway, it is at it is, due to apple company policy. but, nevertheless,
curiously, just a european developer created the most modern or better the
only *NEW* apple II over the last few years :))
best regards, ulrich
[ Delivered by ProTERM Message Manager (PTMM) v2.5.3 ]
(UHAUSMANN, 26110, GO COM A2)
>>>>> The sheer cost of connecting online to the rest of the world was
""""" the main deterrent for us in the UK. About the only thing we could
get the majority of Apple users here to do, was to connect to our local BBS
systems. But even then, many users saw that as far too expensive, and
relied on the User Group or on magazines for contacts.
It was only in more recent times, when Compuserve moved round the world and
gave us access at local rates, did we see more people get online. When the
A2 RoundTables on GEnie started up, it was impossible for us to connect to
Genie locally, and in fact GEnie made it impossible for us to actually
join! Only later, did GEnie let people outside the US and Canada join their
system, but we still needed expensive routes through GEIS to get to it.
It is for that very reason, that I have just pulled the plug on Genie
myself, as the cost of the PSS account I need to connect to GEIS, is no
longer cost effective for the two or three people left on Genie...
Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Mon 27 Sep 1999 - 303 days till Y2KFest
Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2
Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
(EWANNOP, 26141, GO COM A2)
>>>>> Little known fact, you weren't supposed to be able to join at all.
""""" Someone made a mistake that left a loophole open for you guys to
get in, and a bunch of the sysops managed to persuade GE not to close the
loophole.
(We TRIED to get reasonable connect rates for overseas users, since it
literally cost GE no more to provide access to their own network in Europe
than it did here. But they just gave us an odd look....)
Gary R. Utter
(UTTER, 26155, GO COM A2)
>>>>> In fact the only reason I could afford to access GEnie from the UK,
""""" was that I was given a local NUA for GEIS that worked in Britain.
This meant that I could access GEnie through a local PSS NUA instead of the
prohibitively expensive IPSS NUA that I was supposed to use. I never did
see that local NUA advertised anywhere, and it is still active several
years later.
Access through a local PSS NUA is charged per minute, access through an
IPSS NUA is charged by the packet! But that is all now a memory to me, as I
have closed the account down as of the end of this month. The Internet
rather changed things when it came along, and these ancient methods of
connecting are now no longer needed!
Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 28 Sep 1999 - 302 days till Y2KFest
Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2
Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
(EWANNOP, 26159, GO COM A2)
>>>>> Actually, there was an online service called Mnematics that had
""""" overseas connections long before CIS did. They had links to all the
large European networks in France, the UK and Germany, and later expanded
to other parts of the world. For a while they had an active Apple II
section, tho I was always partial to the Politics SIG (Well, just because I
ran it.... :) )
They stopped being a videotex service when they and Sprintnet had a falling
out, tho they still survive in the NY area as an ISP.
Later.............Howard
(HKATZ, 26162, GO COM A2)
I HEAR CONAN HAS NICE FILES That's correct. If you know what you want,
""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I'll see if it's in the Genie archives and
upload it here. I am considering uploading a listing of all the files to
facilitate filling requests, but I'm not quite sure how to do it yet (it
needs some editing and it's a =huge= list.)
To tell the truth, I think we (the A2 staff) were hoping that Delphi would
eventually make its databases available via ftp, but that hasn't happened
and it probably won't now that the Web side is the primary focus (only the
"old" text side forums even have databases, and they're only accessible on
the text side.) We are exploring alternative ways to make the Genie files
available somehow. Stay tuned.
------------------------------------------------------------------
Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Thu Sep 30, 1999 2:36:12 pm
[Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold v3.2]
--
Is Darth Vader YOUR father, too?
(TONYW1, 26216, GO COM A2)
WHAT RUNS BERNIE AND ALTERNATIVE SERIAL PORTS Bernie runs on any Power
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Macintosh, imac, iBook,
four-digit Performa or PowerBook, four-digit Duo, any other Mac with
PowerPC upgrade card, or Mac clone.
If you would like to reuse 800kB disks, please keep in mind that current
Macintosh models (excluding current PowerBooks with built-in 3.5" drives I
believe), do not support 800kB disks with external 3.5" USB drives.
If you would like to use Bernie's serial communication, be advised that
current Macintosh computers, except PowerBooks, do not come with a serial
port. You can, however, use the Power Macintosh G3 internal modem with
Bernie. You can also add serial port connectivity by means of a third-party
serial card (MegaWolf, for example) or USB-to-serial converter boxes.
Third-party additions are usually untested on our part.
If you do not really need the latest killer system and would like to save a
few bucks, the best "Bernie" systems are beige Power Mac G3s. They support
800kB disks and serial port communication.
I hope that helps.
regards,
Henrik Woof Gudat
woof woof
(GUDATH, 25541, GO COM A2)
>>>>> I dunno, I kinda like my PowerMac 8500 with 364.5 MHz G3 upgrade
""""" card. . . it'll do what the beige does, albeit sometimes a little
slower, and it'll run BeOS and Ernie too :)
-
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
(RSUENAGA, 25542, GO COM A2)
>>>>> I can tell you that the Belkin USB serial adapter works perfectly
""""" as an external modem connection for Bernie. That's how I've got my
USR Courier hooked up to the G3.
Wow, now I have to be careful about what I type. USB...USR... :)
- Tony
(TONYW1, 25565, GO COM A2)
>>>>> How do you get Bernie to recognize the internal modem in a
""""" PowerBook G3? I can't see a preference to set.
(BINARY_BEAR, 25567, GO COM A2)
<<<<< Bernie will show the internal modem as part of the "port" menus.
""""" (The port selection pop-up menus are in Bernie's preferences window
-> Communications panel.) I don't quite remember what the it was called - I
think it will show up as "internal modem" or so. Bernie will list there all
the serial connections it can find, be in by means of a third-party serial
card, built-in ports, internal modems or whatever.
Internal modem support is given when the modem is implemented in form of a
serial port. Most modems are, even though recent Macs don't have a
general-purpose serial port. The internal communications port is often
nothing but a differently wired serial port.
There are modems implementing the Rockwell Protocol. These modems are not
compatible with Bernie as some processing is done in the CPU (similar to
the GeoPort.) Do not confuse them with "Rockwell Chip Set" - modems with a
Rockwell chip set work fine, those with a Rockwell protocol do not.
regards,
Henrik Woof Gudat
woof woof
(GUDATH, 25568, GO COM A2)
DOES SOFTDISK PUBLISHING STILL HAVE THE APPLE II ISSUES? The last time I
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" wanted to order
a back issue, I ran into the same thing you did. The web site doesn't
acknowledge that the Apple II SoftDisk products ever existed. However, when
I called them they were very helpful. Does their web site have their
toll-free number? If so, you can call them and ask what might still be
available. I would have to dig for the number at this point.
BTW - If you do get to the point of ordering, make sure you say _several_
times that you want the _APPLE_IIGS_ SoftDisk issues. The first time I
ordered over the phone after they discontinued the line, they sent me the
corresponding issue numbers of their IBM PC product.
Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth)
Woofed to you by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm via Bernie ][ the Rescue!
(DZAHNISER, 25606, GO COM A2)
DOES MARINETTI HELP A POOR PHONE LINE CONNECTION? Nope, if you can't
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" maintain a good
connection using a standard serial connection, a TCP/IP connection tends to
be overall worse since a lot more data is sent and received.
Assuming your hardware is good, the problem is probably a bad modem init
string. This is most typical problem for poor connections (TCP/IP or
otherwise). I've found that only the "sharp" support staff can track these
down.
Geoff
(SISGEOFF, 25858, GO COM A2)
CAN I TRANSFER MULTIPLE FILES OVER A NULL MODEM CONNECTION? I don't use
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Windows
except at the office, so I can't help there, but any of the modern IIgs
telecomm programs that support ZModem (such as Spectrum and ProTERM) can do
multi file transfers with ZModem. You could also script them to do multiple
file transfers with other protocols.
-
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
(RSUENAGA, 25722, GO COM A2)
>>>>> Any communications programs that support Y-modem batch or Z-modem
""""" should work.
Your best bet would be to get a program on your IIgs that supports
automatic Z-modem receives. Spectrum and ProTERM both support this and I'm
sure there are others. This way, all you have to do is run your
communications program on your IIgs, go to the PC and tell HyperTerminal
what files you want transferred and the IIgs will automatically start
downloading them. No need to even leave the PC so you can transfer files
one at a time or in batches.
Another option would be to set up GNO/ME on your IIgs and log into it using
HyperTerminal on your PC. You can then initiate X, Y or Z-modem sends using
GNO/ME's rz command. Again, no need to leave the PC so you can transfer
files to your heart's content. :-)
Yet another option would be to set up one of your machines in "host" mode
or run BBS software. The only problem here is that most of these "host"
modes or BBS packages require a RING signal from the modem followed by a
CONNECT signal. This can sometimes by simulated by typing these words in if
you are using a null modem setup. At any rate, if you can get the program
to pick up, you will be using a BBS type of interface and you can choose to
upload or download files to/from the host machine. Which one you use
depends on which machine is doing the hosting. PC hosting, use the IIgs to
download files; IIgs hosting, use the PC to upload files.
I hope this helps.
Jeff Blakeney
Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro
(JBLAKENEY, 25726, GO COM A2)
>>>>> The Modem MGR package now found in the telcommunications database
""""" handles zmodem as well as x and ymodem transfers. With Zmodem you
can do batch file receives, and batch sends (tho you have to set up a batch
list 1st - not hard, but not as easy.
Later..........Howard
(HKATZ, 25727, GO COM A2)
WHAT THE HECK DO YOU CALL THOSE THINGS? Well, with thanks to David Empson
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" for explaining this on
comp.sys.apple2, here is a quick breakdown of the connectors.
- 1st letter is the shape of the connector
- 2nd letter is the physical size of the connector
- the number after these letters is the number of pins in the connector
Here are some examples of connectors:
DA-15 is the standard IIgs RGB connector.
DB-25 is the standard connector on external modems and PC parallel
connectors.
DC-37 are PC external floppy connectors.
DD-50 are old SCSI connectors like the ones on the Sider hard drives.
DE-9 is now the standard for PC serial connectors.
DE-15 is the standard VGA/SVGA connectors.
Notice that the PC has two connectors that are the same shape and same size
but have different number of pins in them. The DE-15 just has more pins in
the same amount of space as a DE-9.
I hope this helps clear things up.
Jeff Blakeney
Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro
(JBLAKENEY, 25963, GO COM A2)
MORE ON TELNET "telnet -8 -E delphi.com"
""""""""""""""
-8 specifies an 8-bit data path on both incoming and outgoing data. This
should be good enough for most telnet clients, but apparently some (older)
clients only setup an 8-bit path on incoming data with this option.
-L specifies an 8-bit data path for outgoing data. This is needed by some
(older) telnets that don't support -8 for both incoming and outgoing data.
This ensures an 8-bit connection in both directions.
-E suppresses the escape character. This is usually necessary to get Zmodem
transfers to work properly.
------------------------------------------------------------------
Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Sat Sep 18, 1999 4:25:47 am
[Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold v3.2]
--
Have you got all the stuffing up one end?
(TONYW1, 25917, GO COM A2)
>>>>> About telnet commands -
"""""
The ISP that I use for my Apple II telnet needs uses the following syntax:
telnet delphi.com binary
I do have a bit of a problem with Zmodem uploads (lots of errors) but the
download side is impressively trouble-free.
Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth)
Woofed to you by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm via Bernie ][ the Rescue!
(DZAHNISER, 25948, GO COM A2)
>>>>> Being a little further away from the Delphi servers than most of
""""" you, and thus my Internet connection has to navigate the slew of
satellites in the stratosphere, I find Zmodem is very unreliable through a
Telnet connection to my ISP.
Although it is very slow due to Delphi's poor implementation of Kermit, I
find Kermit works just fine for me.
You just need to experiment with the various protocols and see which one
works best for your particular setup. You will also find that the time of
day, or Internet traffic jam conditions, also are a factor in this.
Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Mon 20 Sep 1999 - 310 days till Y2KFest
Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2
Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
(EWANNOP, 25965, GO COM A2)
>>>>> If you see "Telenet", then it's Sprintnet (which used to be called
""""" "Telenet").
Joe Kohn's Shareware Solutions II (the early ones) have the best info
available on using shell accounts.
I wrote a rather extensive article on telnetting to Delphi in the February
1998 issue of _The Lamp!_ (no, I don't do this for my health) as well, and
looking at that article tonight, it seems the information is only slightly
dated.
As Joe said, shell accounts are becoming rarer and more difficult to find,
with Primenet's announcement and Concentric's discontinuing shell access.
At this point, the best way to get a shell account may be to make your own:
combine a high speed method of access (such as a cable modem or *DSL link)
with a Linux or NetBSD or FreeBSD or (fill in your preferred UNIX or clone
here) and put a null modem cable between it and your Apple II. After that,
you'll have higher speed comm access than you would through a modem, no
busy signals, no need for a second phone line, and only yourself to blame
for old shells :-)
-
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
(RSUENAGA, 25934, GO COM A2)
>>>>> Keep in mind the differences. As Ryan said, Telenet is what's not
""""" called Sprintnet--part of the public data network. This consists of
dialup nodes located in (usually) metropolitan areas, that will connect
your computer to another system across their own network.
Telnet is an internet term that involves issuing the command and then
connecting to the remote system as if you were logged directly in to it,
especially useful for shell system users.
So--one is a commercial service, and the other is an internet protocol.
Clear as mud, I hope. :)
later..........Howard
(HKATZ, 25973, GO COM A2)
RUMOR MILL
""""""""""
THE SKINNY ON SEQUENTIAL Today I called Seq Net and asked for the
"""""""""""""""""""""""" manager. I got a Joseph M. Yandrofski and
chatted with him. Here is the scoop on Apple II hardware:
He is going to have ONE more run of RamFasts when he gets 200 orders.
He wouldn't tell me how close he is to 200 but he said to order now if I
wanted one, implying it will be soon.
He is willing to have ONE more run of Second Sights made if he gets 200
pre-orders (actually 199 because I put my name on the list :)
The Second Sights will cost $159 US + Shipping + insurance. He was short
handed on manning the phones today so he couldn't check actual inventory
for other items, or if they had any. That is it, though. He said when the
RamFasts are gone (and Second Sights if he gets an order for 200) they are
out of the hardware business. He also emphasized PLACE YOUR ORDERS AS
QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE IF YOU WANT ONE. He also said to post that he has one
Iomega Zip Drive left that he'll let go for a "reasonable" price, but call
if you want that.
Eric
habanero
(HABANERO, 25772, GO COM A2)
>>>>> There are two things in this situation that is substantially better
""""" than when the Zip GSX's disappeared:
1) People have notice. If you want one, order now. Don't be surprised when
they're gone.
2) At least for the RamFAST, the Focus makes a reasonable alternative.
-
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org
Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
(RSUENAGA, 25785, GO COM A2)
NOT DEAD YET The AppleWorks Gazette isn't dead, but it isn't around
"""""""""""" either. My partner Chris Serreau disappeared (literally) 2
years ago, and I've not been able to find out what happened to him. Around
the same time I got downsized, and currently I work 3 part-time jobs trying
to keep afloat.
Chris was the technical expert between the two of us, and supplied half of
the material that went into TAG. I came up with the rest. I simply don't
have the resources to do an 800k disk by myself, and requests to
subscribers for material for publication came up with a grand total of one
article.
I still have hopes that I can start it up again, but it HAS been a couple
of years, and that hope fades daily. I feel I've let people who subscribed
down, and it's not something I want to have happened. Maybe if I can get
back to full-time employment status I might be able to do something about
it, but the energy and resources just aren't there right now.
Later................Howard
(HKATZ, 25918, GO COM A2)
PUBLIC POSTINGS
"""""""""""""""
SHEPPYWARE APPLE II DEVELOPMENT ON INDEFINITE SABBATICAL Important
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" SheppyWare
Announcement
For various reasons, I have decided to suspend development on all my Apple
II projects indefinitely. I'm tired and it's just not worth the effort
anymore.
I still intend to release WebWorks GS as a downloadable package next month,
and this announcement doesn't affect the prices of any of my products
already available.
I will complete the final two articles in the GSoft BASIC series for
Juiced.GS (bringing the total number up to six; the fourth is coming in the
next issue, and is already finished). And unless Byte Works cancels it, I
will complete the work I'm doing for them.
The "Shadowlands", "DiskMaker", and "ImageMaker Deluxe" projects are
postponed indefinitely.
I'm not saying I'm leaving the Apple II world forever, I'm just taking a
break to see if my life gets any easier without the hassles from the select
few.
The percentage of Apple II users that treat Apple II programmers like dirt
has risen to the point where I can't bring myself to tolerate it anymore.
I'm just not having enough fun writing the code to put up with the amount
of cruel and unwarranted remarks I get from just a handful of people.
Consider: there are about 50 people that buy my products and are
appreciative (and I love them all for it!). Then there are around 5 people
that are really unpleasant and occasionally abusive. That ratio (1 in 10!)
is way too high for this to be worth it anymore.
If I find that I just can't live without writing Apple II code, I'll pick
it back up, and maybe that'll happen, but as it stands, I just don't feel
like it's worth my trouble.
I do plan to continue to hang around A2, supporting my existing software
and participating in the friendly chats that go on here.
My congratulations to Dr. Tom and his friends for their victory. Enjoy.
My heartfelt thanks to all of you that have been supportive for all these
years. I consider you all to be my friends.
---
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net
(SHEPPY, 26223, GO COM A2)
WE'RE SQUEEZING YOUR JUICED AS FAST AS WE CAN GreetinGS,
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
There will be a bit of a delay in getting the September '99 issue of
Juiced.GS into the mail. The issue is very near completion, but unforeseen
real-life circumstances have slowed the process somewhat, and I will be in
Denver, Colorado, the rest of this week (15th thru 19th) for a National
Conference of Editorial Writers Convention. I had hoped to have the issue
ready for the mail before this trip, but things didn't quite work out.
Work will resume next Monday on the upcoming issue, and it should only take
a few days to complete once I can get back at it.
My apologies for the delay ....
Max Jones
Juiced.GS
http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs
(JUICEDGS, 25841, GO COM A2)
LAST CALL FOR WEBWORKS GS MANUALS An important WebWorks GS announcement:
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Shareware Solutions II is now offering WebWorks GS at $10 per copy. This
includes the disk and printed manual. Once Joe is out of stock, WebWorks GS
printed manuals will no longer be available (unless Joe decides to sell
them on his own), because I'm going to begin distributing it entirely
online.
If you want a printed WWGS manual, buy now, or forever hold your peace.
---
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net
(SHEPPY, 25796, GO COM A2)
FOR TRADE: SHEPPYWARE FOR PPC PCI MAC If anyone has a Power Mac 7300,
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" 7500, 7600, 8500, 8600, 9500, or
9600, or UMAX J700 or S900 that you don't need and are considering getting
rid of, please let me know. I can't afford to pay what it's worth, but I'd
be willing to give free software as a portion of the payment for the
machine.
I don't need drives, I don't need the processor card... Just the case,
power supply, memory, and internal cables and parts. The rest I can swap in
myself (I have a dual-processor card I want to use in it). Machines with no
RAM would be considered as well.
I need the machine to run the PowerPC version of BeOS on, to further
Sweet16 development -- and for some other projects that I can't do easily
right now.
If you have a machine like these and are looking to sell, please drop me an
email: {<mailto:sheppy@sheppyware.net> sheppy@sheppyware.net.} Thanks!
---
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net
(SHEPPY, 25834, GO COM A2)
SSII BRINGS SOFTWARE TO YOU--ON SALE Shareware Solutions II's "Support
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Those Who Support The Apple II"
Sale, Part 3:
One of the best Apple IIGS games ever released - Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS -
is now available from Shareware Solutions II for $10. This low cost offer
is _for a limited time only_ and to take advantage of this reduced price,
your order must be postmarked no later than September 30, 1999.
Let's listen to what some notable Apple IIGS users have had to say about
Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS:
Jawaid Bazyar said: "It's awesome, and those who know me know I don't say
this lightly. This is fantastic!"
Tony Diaz said: "LemminGS is great! A rare one in my book, it really brings
out the GS in IIgs. I've not seen such smooth animation since The
Immortal."
Geoff Weiss said: "The first thing I have to say is this is cool!"
If you are not already familiar with this incredible game, a fully playable
demo which includes the first 10 levels of the game, can be downloaded from
the ground ftp archive at:
http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/apple16/Games/LemminGSdemo.shk
Additionally, you can read an independent review of Brutal Deluxe's
LemminGS at:
http://www.reflexive.net/james/articles/lemmings/index.html
To order Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS for only $10, send checks/money orders -
postmarked no later than September 30th - to:
Shareware Solutions II
166 Alpine St
San Rafael, CA 94901
Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS is supplied on three 3.5" disks, and requires a
IIGS with at least 2 megabytes of RAM. A hard drive is recommended but not
required.
Joe Kohn
http://www.crl.com/~joko
(JOE_KOHN, 25596, GO COM A2)
<<<<< A week or two ago, it was announced that, if purchased from
""""" Shareware Solutions II, the price of Eric Shepherd's WebWorks GS -
an html editor for the Apple IIGS - had been lowered to $10.
When the new lower price was announced, it was also stated that only
subscribers to Shareware Solutions II could purchase it at that special
price.
That restriction is now lifted.
Anyone can now purchase WebWorks GS from Shareware Solutions II for $10.
To order, send checks or money orders in US funds to:
Shareware Solutions II
166 Alpine St
San Rafael, CA 94901
Joe Kohn
http://www.crl.com/~joko
(JOE_KOHN, 25811, GO COM A2)
<<<<< Just a reminder that Shareware Solutions II is now offering a
""""" couple of $10 specials....
WebWorks GS, if ordered from SSII, is only $10.
Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS is now available for $10.
The cost of The Apple IIGS Photo CD-ROM is $10.
Send checks or money orders, in US funds only, to:
Shareware Solutions II
166 Alpine St
San Rafael, CA 94901
Info on the above software can be found at http://www.crl.com/~joko
Joe
(JOE_KOHN, 25851, GO COM A2)
NEW SWEET Version 1.2 of Sweet16 is now available! My original plan had
""""""""" been to ship a more comprehensive 1.2 in October, but this
version fixes a bug that's very annoying and I felt it was worth putting
out an update sooner to get it into users' hands as quickly as possible.
Here's what's new:
Bugs fixed:
1. Fixed a bug in the speed control code that would cause emulation to
randomly pause from time to time.
2. Fixed a bug in the ADB code that caused the keyboard to get stuck
repeating.
3. Fixed a bug in the ADB code that caused garbage characters to be
returned.
Improvements:
1. Minor optimizations to the ADB subsystem.
2. Added a "Mount as read-only" checkbox to the Mount Disk Image file
panel.
3. The Create disk image menu now provides an option to create 100 MB
images.
4. You can now select multiple disks to unmount in the Mount Disk Image
file panel.
New Features:
1. Floppy disks are now pre-cached gradually in the background after you
mount them. This uses a background thread to slowly read in the disk
into the cache so that future reads will be faster; this happens without
any noticeable loss of IIgs CPU performance.
2. You can now record movies of Sweet16's video window. Audio isn't
supported yet, and only the large video mode can be recorded. This
requires a lot of processing power and disk speed though, or the entire
system slows down. (16-bit, 640x400 video is very
computationally-intensive to record). You can create movies using any
BeOS supported file format and codec (including QuickTime and AVI,
Indeo, Photo-JPEG, etc).
3. Holding down the command (Alt) key when launching Sweet16 starts the
emulator paused. This gives you time to swap out disk images before the
IIgs boots.
4. Added the new Disks window. This window shows you the disks you have
mounted, whether or not they're currently running, and how big they are.
You can also eject and mount disks using this window.
---
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net
(SHEPPY, 25512, GO COM A2)
BERNIE BUMPED TO 2.5 FREE YOUR DATA - BERNIE TOTAL INTEGRATION MAKES ITS
"""""""""""""""""""" DEBUT
Basel/Switzerland -- 9/21/99 -- F.E.Systems introduced today a major update
to Bernie ][ The Rescue, the emulator that pioneered Apple IIgs emulation.
Version 2.5 brings tight integration with MacOS by offering file drag&drop
and copy&paste across platforms, among other new features and internal
changes.
With "Bernie Total Integration" users can now drag & drop files between
MacOS and GS/OS with simple mouse clicks. Bernie 2.5 also enhances the
standard copy & paste commands so text clipboards can be shared easily with
the Mac environment. True integration at your fingertip!
The update also greatly improves sound emulation by adding non-linear,
adaptive volume control with automatic channel balancing.
F.E.Systems maintains an extensive web site with up-to-date online
tutorials, software specials for registered users, and online support.
Bernie's home page can be reached at
{<http://www.magnet.ch/emutech/Bernie/>
http://www.magnet.ch/emutech/Bernie/.}
F.E.Systems has specialized in emulation technologies and develops and
distributes the most advanced Apple II emulator. We believe in the concept
of "reusing technology" and are offering emulation tools that enhance a
platform's functionality as a way to protect your investments.
Henrik Woof Gudat
woof woof
(GUDATH, 26016, GO COM A2)
AND 2.5.1 Dear Bernie users,
"""""""""
Despite all testing and garlic on our monitors, we have learned around five
hours ago that Bernie would not launch ProDOS 8 applications from the IIgs
Finder. The bug - a memory $201 error - hit the system during the change of
environments so at no time your data was unsafe.
We have removed the software immediately and investigated the issue.
The required parts have been revised and Bernie 2.5.1 is now back on the
servers. For your convenience we have also prepared a small upgrade that
includes just the Bernie application and the Total Integration extension.
The two files replace your Bernie 2.5 application and the system extension
"Bernie.Enabler" in your GS/OS system folder (Startup
Disk:System:System.Setup:). The direct link to the download page is
{<http://www.magnet.ch/emutech/Download/Parts/bernieconsumer.html>
http://www.magnet.ch/emutech/Download/Parts/bernieconsumer.html} .
We apologize for the incident and wish you a pleasant time with a bug-free
Bernie 2.5.1.
Regards,
Henrik Woof Gudat
woof woof
(GUDATH, 26064, GO COM A2)
BEST OF THE BEST
""""""""""""""""
26126 26-SEP 13:57 General Chatter
Sequential Systems dead? (Re: Msg 26109)
From: T_DIAZ To: SPECTOR1 (NR)
If you only knew how many vendors were committed to the new Apple II. If
you think of the amount of software titles that were never finished in the
later 80's and early 90s (Well, 89-91 actually), I call that the second
wave of ditching.
There was a royally F**KED time at Apple they actually, less than 2 years
after introduction of the Apple IIgs just like that, dropped a bomb on the
marketing of the entire platform and refused to spend any more money on it.
They told vendors "No. Do not do that, program it for the Mac ...", etc.
Well, guess what. The amount of negative feedback and revolt that the users
who had paid on average of $2,000 for these systems was not something they
could ignore. .. So while vendors decided to 'go where the money was',
after a second revival of sorts they ditched again after a dismal showing.
Liken that to the Perot presidential campaign. I'm in, I'm out, I'm in, I'm
out Well, 19% was a strong showing, but not enough of those that were
alienated by the indecision of the past.
Yes, the IIgs was 'overhyped', but so is nearly every single product at
introduction. There are a few differences here though:
The Amiga has most of it's OS features released with it, the Apple IIgs was
2 years behind the OS. I still do believe that we would have never seen
system 6 if Apple had gotten away with it's master plan of ditching after
two years.
Two years after the Amiga, Commodore was going gung ho still with it, and
while the C=64 users may have felt they were getting the shaft like the A2
users did to the Mac, Commodore was not crapping on them at the same time,
like Apple was doing. Some of you may say, "Fine.. look where that got
Commodore", yeah, look where it got Apple too. They were both headed down
the same road. Fortunately for us Apple took the other fork in the road and
did something about it. As for the Amiga, I know several hardcore Amiga
users that used it in business. They all switched to Mac because Lightwave
was ported to the Mac.
If the Apple IIgs was released with GS/OS instead of that hacked shell
added to a ProDOS 8 core we may be in a different position now. But
anyway..
We are the lone holdouts, the Apple II has given me many things, half are
monetary, the rest are the relationships and community. While one has
dwindled the other can last forever.
So here we are, and I'll see you next summer in Kansas City!
..and KFest is not about making a killing in the bank. One can dream
though. :)
Tony
[EOA]
[A2P]------------------------------
A2Pro_DUCTIVITY |
-----------------------------------
Checking out A2PRO on Delphi
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.
[thelamp@sheppyware.net]
RESOLVING AN UNRESOLVED REFERENCE LABEL I'm doing something stupid, but
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I'm not sure what I'm missing.
I'm writing an assembly program, but needs to call C functions. I found the
section in the Orca/C manual how to call the C function so I'm set with
that.
The problem is during the linking. I'm getting Unresolved reference Label
errors for each C function that the assembly code is referencing. I am
guessing that I have no idea how to tell the assembly code the labels are
to be found in the C code.
I have the assembly routines in one file, lets call it prog.asm. I have the
C functions in another file, lets call it funcs.cc.
What I did was this:
assemble prog.asm
compile funcs.cc
link prog funcs keep=prog
I was hoping the linking would magically figure out the labels, but that
didn't work. I'm not finding anything in the manuals that is helping me.
Geoff
(SISGEOFF, 2746, GO COM A2PRO)
>>>>> Keep in mind that this is a great way to crash the computer if you
""""" forget to initialize the C environment. The C libraries, and in
some cases even the code generated by the compiler, depend on an orderly
initialization of certain registers, global variables, and tools. If you
don't do that and use a function or instruction that depends on
initialization, you're asking for trouble.
The easiest way to set things up is to start the program from C, then call
your main assembly language routine from main(). You can find specific
startup information for roll-your-own startups in the C release notes.
Mike Westerfield
(BYTEWORKS, 2749, GO COM A2PRO)
>>>>> Just a wild guess here, since I'm at work and can't look it up, but
""""" do you have the case directive on in ORCA/M? (I assume that's what
you're using for your assembler.)
Later,
- Aaron
(APULVER, 2747, GO COM A2PRO)
>>>>> That's almost certainly it. Add "CASE ON" to your assembly source
""""" at the top of the file; ORCA/M normally assembles with all labels
converted to upper-case, but ORCA/C is case-sensitive, so you need to turn
on case-sensitive assembling so the labels match.
---
Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd
sheppy@sheppyware.net
http://www.sheppyware.net
(SHEPPY, 2748, GO COM A2PRO)
WHAT HAPPENS WITH DESIGNMASTER? The problem I see most often when I
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" generate Rez source from DesignMaster is
that the resource IDs get screwed up. I can't remember for sure, but I
believe the high word of the ID (or one bit of the high word? I forget)
contains some random value. The ID might be correct in the control list,
for example, but then the actual resource has a bogus ID.
That particular problem isn't too hard to fix by hand if you know what
you're looking for, but I recall having run into a couple of other bugs as
well. :)
Later,
- Aaron
(APULVER, 2753, GO COM A2PRO)
THANKS FROM THE DEAN Now that the last lesson in the Hypercard IIgs
"""""""""""""""""""" course has been released, I would like to take this
opportunity to thank Gareth Jones for the excellent job he did in creating
this course.
I know that I have learned a lot about HyperCard IIgs from reading these
lessons and have earned a new respect for a development system that I
always considered to be not much more than a novelty.
Thank you Gareth, for the time and effort you put into this course.
Also, I would like to thank HangTime for running his Tuesday night
HyperCard IIgs chats and volunteering to help any of the course
participants during those chats.
Finally, I wish to thank those that participated and gave feedback. I'm
sure Gareth would love to get more feedback as I believe he intends to
refine the course over time.
Don't forget that the A2Pro Forum and Conference area are still here to
help answer any questions you may have about creating or modifying
HyperCard IIgs stacks so feel free to ask.
Jeff Blakeney - Dean of the Apple II University
sent via COG v3.1, Spectrum v2.2 and Marinetti v2.0
(JBLAKENEY, 2762, GO COM A2PRO)
>>>>> Thanks for the kind words about the HCGS course. I also learned a
""""" lot during it, even though (or especially though) I wrote it!
As Jeff mentioned, I'd like to improve the course over time. I've put up
html versions of the lessons at my web site
(http://www.intergate.bc.ca/personal/gslj) for this purpose. Any comments
or suggestions or even criticisms are welcome.
-Gareth
(GARETH, 2766, GO COM A2PRO)
<<<<< Since I have just finished typing a thank you to the instructor of
""""" the HyperCard IIgs course, I feel compelled to do the same for the
author of both the language and the course for GSoft BASIC.
Thanks to Mike Westerfield the Apple IIgs has yet another incredibly
powerful programming language that is easy to learn. This learning process
is even easier due to the "Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC" text that Mike
has written and sells through his company, the Byteworks.
Mike graciously gave of his time, even after the work entailed to give us
these new resources, to host a two hour chat on Monday nights to help
budding GSoft BASIC programmers who were working their way through his
course.
Thanks also to the participants of this course, especially to those that
captured transcripts of the chats for me when I was late or couldn't
attend. You know who you are and I'm believe I have credited you in the
descriptions of the uploaded files.
As with the HyperCard IIgs course, I would like to invite anyone with a
GSoft BASIC problem to feel free to ask questions here in the A2Pro Forum
or in Conference. Mike Westerfield and many other knowledgeable people will
be quite happy to help you.
Jeff Blakeney - Dean of the Apple II University
sent via COG v3.1, Spectrum v2.2 and Marinetti v2.0
(JBLAKENEY, 2763, GO COM A2PRO)
SPECTRUM SCRIPTING HELP FROM THE MASTERS I need some assistance with the
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" AlertWindow XCMD.
I am trying to display a window when a certain value is zero, but nothing
is ever displayed. I then just gave the External AlertWindow command with
its appropriate parameters in a script by itself as follows:
External AlertWindow 1 8 4 32*There's nothing here.~^^OK
And got nothing.
This is in the SHR screen. I have the feeling I'm not setting some
parameters, but what am I missing?
Thanks. . .
-
Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_
My words are not to be posted to usenet without my permission ever.
Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution
(RSUENAGA, 2767, GO COM A2PRO)
>>>>> Try this:
"""""
External AlertWindow 1 8 4 32 "There's nothing here.~^^OK" ButNum
You need a result variable to return the button number which is always 1 so
you can ignore its content. Of course, change the quotes to your quote
character.
Geoff
(SISGEOFF, 2768, GO COM A2PRO)
>>>>> You must delimit all values with a space. If you add a space after
""""" '32' the example will now work.
You must also add a trailing 'quote' after 'OK', or you will not get the
correct value into the button. You must 'balance' quotes or odd things will
happen.
Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Mon 30 Aug 1999 - 331 days till Y2KFest
Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2
Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/
(EWANNOP, 2769, GO COM A2PRO)
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APPLE II PRINTERS
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Written by Lyle Syverson
[lyle837@delphi.com]
Hewlett Packard Deskjets And The Apple II
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It was one of those lazy Sunday afternoons... window shopping the
advertising fliers.
!THUD!
Read that again... Hewlett Packard DeskJet 400 for $88. I had
promised myself that if the price of the HP DeskJets went below $100 I
would get one for my Apple IIgs. It was time to make good on that promise.
FINDING A BARGAIN ON A NEW DESKJET PRINTER Watch the ads for your local
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Wal-Mart, computer stores, and
office supply stores. If an ad sounds good check it out promptly. I
waited ten days to get to Wal-Mart and ended up buying a HP Deskjet 420C
for $98 rather than the 400 for $89.
Also stop in regularly at these stores and check out their printer
displays. Recently the local OfficeMax was offering the same HP 420C with
a $20 mail in coupon for a net price of $79 after rebate. They had not
advertised this bargain.
Which Deskjet should you get? In general if the specs say it will
work with _MS DOS_ it will work with the Apple II. Avoid printers that are
for use with _Windows_ only. Some of the local stores are currently
offering a $30 mail in rebate coupon for the HP Deskjet 612C for $129... a
net price of $99. The 612C has both color and black ink cartridges in
place at the same time.
The Deskjet 420C has a track record with the Apple II. It is
inexpensive, small, light weight, quiet, and works well with Appleworks and
the 16 bit programs on the IIgs. Keep in mind that the 420C can only have
one ink cartridge installed at a time. If you are switching from black and
white to color or back you will have to change ink cartridges.
THE MYSTIQUE OF THE APOLLO PRINTER The Apollo 1200 printer, and the
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' "Barbie Printer" (as in Barbie Dolls)
are reported to be the same printer as the HP Deskjet 420C. The shape of
the exterior case of the Apollo and the 420C are definitely not the same.
The Apollo uses exactly the same HP ink cartridges as the 420C.
Hewlett Packard denies any connection with Apollo printers. Following
the news link on the Apollo web site (http://www.myapollo.com/) indicates
that Apollo is a subsidiary of HP!
If you visit the Apollo web site you can print out coupons for mail in
rebates of $30 on the Apollo 1200 and the Barbie printer, so you should
check prices on these printers.
Locating a place to buy either one of these printers might be another
matter. I stopped at my local Best Buy to ask about these printers. I was
told that these printers were carried only for a short time as a special
promotion... Best Buy is no longer selling them. The people at Office
Depot (the only other local store to advertise the Apollo printer)
indicated that they were instructed to return all 25 of the Apollos to the
manufacturer because of software problems.
WHAT ELSE WILL YOU NEED FOR YOUR NEW DESKJET? You will need a parallel
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' card. This is usually
installed in slot 1 but could be installed in one of the other slots.
Alltech Electronics (http://www.allelec.com/) lists the Grappler Plus card
for $29. This card includes a cable that connects directly to the Deskjet
printers. I was able to purchase a new Grappler Plus from an individual
for $10 including shipping. Also watch the used market.
If you will be using the Deskjet with the 16 bit programs on the IIgs
you will need special software drivers.
I use _Harmonie_. _Harmonie_ is available from Shareware Solutions II
(http://www.crl.com/~joko/) for $20 including shipping.
_Independence_ is available from MyEsource
(http://www.myesource.com/sevenhills/) for $20 plus shipping.
(Editor's Note: see the February 1999 issue of _The Lamp!_ for a discussion
of the merits of these two fine products)
With the IIgs you would also you would be well advised to use
_Pointless_ so that you can use TrueType fonts. _Pointless_ is available
from Shareware Solutions II (http://www.crl.com/~joko/) for $20 including
shipping.
The _Harmonie_ DeskJet560C driver works great with the 420C and the
black ink cartridge. To use the color cartridge you will need to use the
DeskJet500C driver.
_Appleworks_ 4.3 and 5.1 include two drivers for the HP Deskjet 500.
With the Grappler Plus and the Deskjet 420C "add" these printers then:
1. Install black ink cartridge in Deskjet.
2. Change "Needs line feed after each Return" to yes.
3. Change Interface Cards to "Control-I 0N" (that is zero N).
Then there are _The New Print Shop_, _Print Shop GS_, and _Print Shop
Companion GS_. No drivers for the HP 420C... And only a very slim hope
that there ever will be. So I also left the Imagewriter II hooked up to
the IIgs.
CONCLUSION I would highly recommend the HP Deskjet 420C printer for use
'''''''''' with the Apple II. Considering the volatile prices of the
Deskjets you should also consider other printers such as the HP 612C and
the Apollo / Barbie printers when making your purchase.
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