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Comment by 👤 jdcard

Re: "I'm surprised there isn't a subspace for spartan. I..."

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My frustration with Spartan is its default port. I don't have root access on the server so all my content is available at spartan://jdcard.com:3300/ as well as gemini://jdcard.com/ and http://jdcard.com/. I like not having to fuss with security certificates for Spartan, but I wish it wasn't defaulted to port 300.

We certainly could have /s/spartan here if it turns out there's something more to discuss than "what ever happened to Spartan?" I still think of my site as being Spartan first, but my server logs say it is the least used.

👤 jdcard

Jun 06 · 5 months ago

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🍀 gritty · Jun 06 at 10:30:

@jdcard are you using a server off the main site?

🚀 Remy · Jun 06 at 11:00:

My capsule is available on both gemini and spartan. There is lower latency when using spartan, the pages load faster.

🍀 gritty · Jun 06 at 11:16:

@remy honest question, since we're serving text, is it noticeable? not sure how much overhead tls introduces but I know it's a bit.

🚀 Remy · Jun 06 at 12:16:

I notice the difference between gemini and spartan on my wifi network with my server on my home network (something like 60ms with gemini and 30ms with spartan). It is even more noticeable on a slow connection like an overloaded mobile network.

👤 jdcard · Jun 06 at 13:32:

@gritty - I'm not certain how to interpret your question. I'm using spsrv on my webserver.

🦀 jeang3nie · Jun 06 at 13:55:

@jdcard fwiw Agis starts as root just to open port 300, then drops all privilege immediately after and runs a whatever user you configure it to.

🍀 gritty · Jun 06 at 17:21:

@jdcard I wasn't sure how many servers there were and if they are only on the spartan mainpage. @remy that's interesting!

🏍️ winduptoy · Jun 06 at 18:31:

@jdcard what's your opinion on SRV records?

👤 jdcard · Jun 06 at 21:08:

@winduptoy - Hmmm... that's an interesting idea. I avoid messing with DNS when I can but I think I'll try an SRV record and see how various Spartan clients handle that.

🏍️ winduptoy · Jun 07 at 02:05:

@jdcard - Oh, I assume none of them handle it since it's not in the spec. I see a lot of issues revolving around ports (e.g. lack of root access in your case) and so little discussion of SRV records. Seems to me like a good tool to use. I'm hoping more specs start mentioning them as a requirement to alleviate issues like this.

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I'm surprised there isn't a subspace for spartan. I remember a lot of folks chatting about it a while back. anyone using / updating spartan (capsules?)?

💬 gritty · 12 comments · Jun 06 · 5 months ago