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Stop Norway’s drills!

Norwegian prime minister Jonas Gahr Støre (from the social democratic Arbeiderpartiet) said that they refuse to stop or even cut back on their fossil fuel drilling projects, saying that the solution will come from the demand side. I.e. he is hoping that demand for fossils will decrease as people stop flying, driving tractors, running factories and eating meat.

That is unfathomably wack.

Business is gonna keep pumping as long as consumers are buying, and consumers are gonna keep buying as long as business is pumping.

Policy-makers need to step in and regulate. Leave it in the ground. Stop the drilling.

Even the abyssal architect of endless exploitation himself, Friedrich Hayek, understood that. In the context of environmental collapse, he admitted:

In no system that could be rationally defended would the state just do nothing.

But by now it should be clear even to a wishful thinker like him that policy is ruled by corrupt cowards who would damn all of humanity for thirty pieces of silver. Cash rules everything around me.

Update

oldernow replied:

Grasping for things is rooted in insisting upon a modeling of reality wherein a subject self exists in contrast to all else, which in the context of said subject self is (which as fast as the speed of thinking-it-so quickly becomes “are”) necessarily seen/modeled as objects - aka objectified - to be grasped/possessed/owned by said subject self. The grasping is a distorted attempt by subject/self to fill/address the emptiness of its separation with stuff/objects.
There is no legislating around that.

I’m going to try to translate this into my own words to see if I get the gist here.

“Desire for consumer goods comes from a worldview of a ‘self’ contrasted with everything else, and in that context the ‘self’ wants to own everything else, which is the root cause of consumerist behavior.”

I’m not sure consumerist behavior (a.k.a. “grasping”) has a single root cause, or whether the reason you just put forward would crack the top three, but I’m not disputing that your typical market capitalist citizen has a lot of things to learn about how the world really works, and how much we are kidding ourselves about what’s really going on with our precious li’l “hunks of spoiling flesh on disintegrating bones”.

However, the climate crisis are threatening access to even simple food, basic care, and adequate shelter. We need to regulate.

Legislators and the legislated alike must come to see the unreality of that modeling [i.e. realize that there’s no “I” in “team”], which initiates its unraveling, which ends the life is but a nightmare, of which capitalism is a significant aspect.

That would be one way forward. I could get behind that. Always appreciate a radical take.

I believe there are things, even though they fall short of a universal permanent enlightement, that we can and must do.

By that I mean that transaction externalities must be regulated.

“Good” is the enemy of “perfect”

My best guess at a climate solution

And in another post:

Meanwhile has nothing changed behind
the within.
And little in Gemini spaces
I’m aware of.
Oscillation between
I-I and merely
me.
Check.

If you think addressing climate change is just an ego trip you need to sober up right now.

Hangups around “I” and “me” mean nothing if you’ve get past the limit’s of English semantics. The map is pretty damn far from the territory and that finger ain’t no moon. It’s a Death Star.

There’s some value in fun exercises like using e-prime (to avoid making claims around identity relation predicares) and similar fun can be had with eliding words like “you” and “me”. But you need to be Postel with those kinds of games or you just come across as a jerk. Or I do, since when you’re smushing yourself you’re smushing me, given how we’re all one and the self is so illusory.

Brad and Albert smushing each other’s faces in the elevator in I♥Huckabees

The disillusioned, enlightened climated delayists

Here, let me rewrite the whole thing so the language fits your time-wasting charade:

Yes, the typical market capitalist citizen has a lot of things to learn about how the world really works, and about what’s really going on with humanity’s precious li’l “hunks of spoiling flesh on disintegrating bones”.
However, the climate crisis are threatening access to even simple food, basic care, and adequate shelter. That’s something policy-makers should’ve been responsible to regulate.

No “I”, “me” or “you” in sight. Just as true.