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[Off Topic] WiFi HaLow, Mesh, and Low Powered Devices

marc marcx2 at welz.org.za

Wed Dec 8 06:37:44 GMT 2021

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John Goerzen <jgoerzen at complete.org> writes:

Since we're talking about old protocols, there is, of course, UUCP.

There is a more modern replacement called NNCP that has quite a few nice

properties. It is still asynchronous, but it is fully encrypted and

authenticated, supports tor-style onion routing and async multicast, and

so forth. I have made some blog posts about it and also offer Usenet

feeds over NNCP. UUCP or NNCP would be perfect fits for something like

this.

Hey, thanks for the writeups on NNCP. I've been interested in NNCP for a

year or two, but haven't actually used it because the existing

documentation isn't very concrete. I am *very* interested in building a

Usenet/post-Usenet feed on top of NNCP, so I'll be reading your writeup

with much interest.

I suppose I come across as a cranky old fart, but I had a quicklook at it, and it is a project written in Go, shipping 11Mbof source.

Now, the reason I interested in gemini is that I'd liketo understand and simplify my computing world as well asdisentangle myself from the sticky surveillance web. Installingyet another large runtime associated with a surveillancecapitalist is not how I like to go about that. So regrettablythis isn't for me.

Which is a pity: A number of ideas in it look neat - eg thechunked file fragments which are encrypted at rest. And theuse of NaCl also seems a positive.

I see this issue (and frankly, worse) in so many cases:

- Nice articulate article explaining the need for privacy - but the html contains vast amounts of JS to google analytics, fonts, apis, etc

- New meshnet project all in favour of decentralisation - but runs its development chat on slack

- New software claiming to implement some simple, lightweight infrastructure - but its critical dependency is a "modern" web browser, hands down the most complex piece of software in common use

I suppose everybody has different priorities or maybe theenthusiastic newcomer just doesn't know about all the nuances,the politics embedded in their infrastructure... but from myvantage these things are critical.

[ALSO: not replying to the gemini list only, but CC'ing it. Is the list even operational ? The last message I received from it was on the 3rd]

regards

marc