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Pete D. peteyboy at SDF.ORG
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 00:58:24 +0200
From: raingloom <raingloom at riseup.net>
To: Andrew Singleton <singletona082 at gmail.com>
Cc: gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
Subject: Re: [request][retro] Gemini clients for windows 95, DOS, etc
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 23:56:32 +0000 (UTC)
Andrew Singleton <singletona082 at gmail.com> wrote:
This is a sort of continuation of a prior thread I had made about the
least powerful hardware that could use Gemini.
I honestly feel bad about this as I have neither real hardware of the
era, nor do I have coding experience. However in theory Gemini would
be great for retro enthusiasts as it would give them something
compsritovely resource light while also being actively worked on.
Projects like The Old Web exist, and frankly make me smile as it
gives old hardware a way to Web, or at least explore the web that
was, somewhat natively. However I feel trying to force Big Web on
such old machines is 'solving' the square peg round hole problem with
a sledgehammer.
Subject: Re: Anyone still using 16-32bit systems ?
On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 11:51:29 +0000
charliebrownau <charliebrownau at protonmail.com> wrote:
Gday
If anyone still has a working XT to PIII with Win9x
I would be amazed
The IDE, RLL, ISA and ATX PSU's would all be past its shelf life
Can we finally let 16 and 32bit finally die a peacefull death
FFS , you can get an Raspi, 2nd hand optiplex or even a 2nd hand 775
2nd hand that could run Modern day 64bit (aliexpress sells those
cheap xeon 775s)
Not everyone can afford a new machine. No, not even the one you are
thinking of.
I've done some voluntary IT support for families near the poverty line
in Szeged where they could just barely afford cheap used 32 bit laptops.
There are many in worse situations. The anecdote I like to bring up is
the girl who had to fill out a government form online on her
second hand PSP so that she could have temporary housing, because
that's all she had.
If you think she doesn't deserve to connect to a website or gemini
capsule, then you need to re-check your priorities.
(for context: Szeged is a decent sized city and an important education
hub with many tech companies. and yet it still has poor people. i know,
shocking.)
I'm struggling to understand how a gemini client would help the girl on the 2nd hand PSP. There is literally no usecase there for gemini to have helped. We could donate money to her local library to have a public PC or something. And if you are talking about infrastructure issues with that, well, the 2nd hand PSP connected, so that problem was solved a different way.
Gemini doesn't/won't replace the WWW, nor will it make it more accessible to underpowered hardware. I guess this person could figure out a gopher client on some ancient hardware. Then what? Would the girl be able to apply for temporary housing using gopher? Gemini would be no different.
I get it, it's cool to be able to use old hardware to access modern things. I have a bunch of old computers in a rack in my basement, I understand the desire.
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