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Luke Emmet luke at marmaladefoo.com
Fri Apr 23 10:07:25 BST 2021
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On 23-Apr-2021 09:41, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 09:22:47AM +0100,
Luke Emmet <luke at marmaladefoo.com> wrote
a message of 58 lines which said:
However my main concern is that the semantics of the links are not
what they normally are in gemini. For example the URL links are
schema references, rather than browsable content for users. So the
normal processes of reading a hypertext gemini document and
following a link to another gemini document don't apply and so you
have to approach such an encoded document with the expectation that
many of the links may not be normal links. This is somewhat of a
cognitive overhead.
This specific issue could be solved by requiring that the URIs used as
identifiers are URLs, and reachable and have content. This is a common
requirment in the world of "linked data" and other semantic stuff
<https://www.w3.org/TR/ld-glossary/#dereferenceable-uris>
<https://explore.dublincore.net/competency_index/d2695955/s2696018/s2696061/s2742457/s2742458/>.
Let's quote the inventor of the Web
<https://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html>: "Use HTTP URIs so
that people can look up those names."
This is an old issue
<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2002Mar/0092>.
TBL has a positive balance on his authority credit score from inventing the web (in its early format!). But the semantic web/ontology movement has obviously struggled much harder to get out of the research community.
Yes, dereferencability (is that a word?) is highly desirable attribute of URLs. I think what I was try to express that even beyond mere dereferencability, Gemtext should be primarily about linking to content a human would want to read - not just a technical schema reference into an ontology. Its about humans being the primary agents on the geminiverse and for us to build for them first and foremost.
Hence my suggestion to use another (or derive a new) media type for extended metadata.
But as I said, I don't really have a horse in this race.
- Luke