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		Fellow computer enthusiasts,                            11-24-89
		
What follows is a transcript of a 45 minute lecture that I attended on 11-17-89 at the 
"Whole Life Expo." in Los Angeles, California. Speaking was Mr. Milton William Cooper who I 
first became acquainted with through a text file I downloaded from a local computer BBS. The 
file dealt with the subject of UFO's and our government's concealment of the truth about them in 
such a way that it made a lasting impression on me, which is why I attended his lecture; to 
learn more. Please forgive my probable misspelling of some of the proper names in the 
transcript which follows and allow that I have taken it as best I could, wordfor-word, from a 
less than acceptable micro-cassette recording. 
If you are as moved by what you are about to read as I was in hearing it first hand, I ask 
that you please spread it as far and wide as possible. Upload it to every BBS in your reach and 
please, don't change anything. Also, please give considerable thought to Mr. Cooper's 
suggestions as to what we all can do to see that this information is confirmed by our 
government to make them stop what they are up to.
Thank you, and now, Milton Cooper:
"For those of you who don't know who I am, I was raised in a military family. My family, 
my ancestors, since they came to this country, have been government people. We have served 
in the military, we have been patriots, we have fought in all the wars, we care about this 
country and believe in the constitution of the United States. We know, as many people don't 
know, that the Constitution of the United States of America IS the United States of America! 
And that's why we've always been ready ...to do the things needed ...to preserve and protect 
it."
"When I left home I went into the Air Force, the Strategic Air Command. As a child I'd heard 
stories from my father and pilots, other pilots, my father was a pilot, about Foo Fighters, 
UFO's, strange craft that were not made on this Earth. And as a kid, you hear that in passing, 
and it's neat, and you giggle about it, and you go out and play "Space Man", and you forget it." 
"When I was in the Air Force I met men who had participated in alien crashed-craft 
recoveries. Now this intrigued me, it interested me, but it was usually after quite a few bottles 
of beer that these stories would come out, and sometimes the next morning I couldn't remember 
what the heck the guy said."
"When I left the Air Force I went into the Navy, and this is where everything began to 
happen for me. I had originally intended to just go from service to service and do something 
that very few people have ever done before. I was a very adventurous, very crazy ...young 
man, and I thought that that would be a pretty exciting life. I volunteered for submarines, and 
while on the submarine U.S.S. Tyroot, SS-416, on a transit between the Portland/Seattle area 
and Pearl Harbor, which was our home port; the Pearl Harbor sub base, as the port lookout I 
saw a craft, saucer-shaped, the size of a Midway class carrier, aircraft carrier, for those of 
you who don't know how big that is; it's huge, come up out of the water approximately 2 1/2 
nautical miles off the port bow, which is about 45 degrees to the left of the pointy end of the 
submarine. It tumbled slowly on its own axis, and went up into the clouds. It appeared to be 
moving slowly to me at a distance of 2 1/2 nautical miles, but in reality it was moving pretty 
fast because it came up out of the water, did a few tumbles and it was gone!"
"I then reported it to the officer of the deck. I didn't tell him what it was that I saw because 
my Daddy didn't raise no fools and in case nobody else saw it I didn't want to be the only looney 
onboard the ship. So I asked the officer of the deck to help me cover that area, and he did, 
which is common for officers and lookouts to help each other while on bridge watch because 
they all hang together if something bad happens. After a few seconds of watching, the same 
craft, or another craft exactly like it, came down out of the clouds, tumbled again on its own 
axis, and went into the water. Ensign Ball, who was the officer of the deck, was literally 
shocked! What could I say? Seaman Dejeralimo, who was the starboard lookout, had also 
witnessed this, and ensign Ball called the captain to the bridge who was followed by the chief 
quartermaster who brought a 35MM camera, and we watched for between 7 and 10 minutes the 
same craft, or different craft that looked exactly alike, enter and leave the water. It was an 
incredible show. I don't know if they knew we were there, or if they even cared, but the craft 
did not glow, they were metal, they were machines without a doubt, they were obviously 
intelligently guided, they were HUGE, and having been in the Air Force and the Navy and 
knowing what it takes, I knew without a doubt, and know it today, that that machine was not 
made on the face of this Earth. Because there's nothing that man can make, that can fly through 
the air at a speed like that, tumble on its own axis, and enter the water and effectively fly 
beneath the sea."
"If you've ever been aboard an airplane and then gone aboard a submarine, I know there's 
probably some of you in this room who have visited a submarine at one time or another, you 
can readily see just without even any of the technicalities involved how difficult such a thing 
would be to do. Where would it be built, that size? It was absolutely incredible. It changed my 
life because then all the stories that I'd heard all my life I knew were true, and I began seeing 
the world in a different light." 
"It wasn't long after that I was trained by Naval security in intelligence. I was sent to Viet 
Nam. I was assigned as a patrol boat captain, first in DaNang harbor, given a crew, given a 
multi-million dollar patrol boat. My job was to gather intelligence from the people who lived 
around the harbor and the fishermen who transited the harbor, and maintain the safety and 
security of the harbor and the shipping. After about 5-months I was sent up North to the DMZ, 
to a place called Qua Vieaf [sp], on the Tacan [sp] river. Our base camp was at the river mouth. 
We were only 3-miles South of the North Vietnamese border and our job was to patrol the 
Tacan river from the river mouth to Dang Ha [sp], and then up the Quang Tree [sp] cutoff to 
Quang Tree city, again to get to know the people on the bank, gather intelligence, and to patrol 
every night and maintain the safety and security of the river and the river traffic."
"It was while there that I discovered that there was a tremendous amount of UFO and alien 
activity in Viet Nam. It was always reported in official messages as `enemy helicopters.' Now 
any of you who know anything about the Viet Nam war know that the North Vietnamese did not 
have any helicopters, especially after our first couple of air raids into North Viet Nam. Even if 
they had they would not have been so foolish as to bring them over the DMZ because that would 
have insured their demise. Our troops were fired on occasionally by these `enemy helicopters,' 
enemy troops were fired on occasionally by these `enemy helicopters,' and occasionally people 
would disappear. And on one instance that I know for sure at least one entire village 
disappeared one night due to alien activity. The reason they used the term `enemy helicopters' 
in messages and dispatches was that in Viet Nam you could be overrun at any time, no matter 
where you where. They did not bring crypto encoding equipment into Viet Nam, I'm talking about 
the machinery. What we did is we had crypto tables, and once we every 24-hours those codes 
would be no good. So that's what we used. We also, because of the inability to use crypto 
transmitting equipment, had to devise code words such as `enemy helicopters.'"
"When I left Viet Nam I was eventually attached to the headquarters staff of the Commander 
in Chief of the United States Pacific Fleet at Macalappa, [sp] Hawaii, which is a little hill 
overlooking Pearl Harbor, it's a beautiful white building up there, and I was specifically 
attached to the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander in Chief of the United States 
Pacific Fleet."
"It was during this tour of duty that, in the course of my duties, documents were placed in 
my hands that were so unbelievable and so incredible that it took me quite a while to adjust to 
the fact that what I was seeing was real. Now for those of you who don't understand how I could 
come to see this information let me give you a little short course in security clearance and "the 
need to know" and how you get to see classified information if you're in the military or in the 
government, it doesn't matter which, the rules are the same."
"Number one you need a security clearance, and you've got to have clearance at the level 
that the information you want to see is classified at. In this instance it was classified `Top Sec-
ret, Magic, Restricted Information,' which I came to find out later is the highest security 
classification in the Nation. To get that type of clearance, all you have to have is a Federal 
Bureau of Investigation background check, which takes about six months and they send federal 
agents to your home, to your old schools, to all your teachers, to your friends, to everybody 
you put down on your security clearance forms, to all your old addresses, your neighbors, 
everybody that you've worked for, and it's embarrassing because they don't tell them what 
they're checking on. They just show them their identification and start asking questions and 
that's when you find out who's your friend and who's not, because a lot of people get scared and 
think, `Bill just robbed a bank and I'm not talkin' to him anymore.'" 
"Now once you get that it's called a `B.I.' and for those of you who have received a copy of 
my service record look on the first page, the DD-214 where it says `Security Clearance,' you 
will see the term `B.I.' That's a `Bureau of Investigation' clearance. Now at that point, you have 
the clearance for everything including Top Secret and above. What determines what you get to 
see is your need to know, and the job that you have determines what your need to know is."
"I was assigned to the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander in Chief of the United 
States Pacific Fleet, who had to know everything concerning his area of operations which was 
onehalf of the Earth's surface; the Indian ocean, the Pacific ocean, and all the land masses in 
between. Believe it or not, if we go to war, if we ever go to war, it's the United States Navy 
that strikes the first blow and attempts to keep the enemy at bey while we can get ourselves 
together, at least historically. Nuclear weapons have kind of done away with that concept, but 
military commanders like to talk about it anyway."
"Because of this, and you have no conception of the amount of material and information that 
an area commander has to know, it's unbelievable, and he has to keep track of this, he has to 
keep on top of it. He has to know what's happening, he has to make the right decisions. Because 
it's almost humanly impossible for anyone to do that, they have what's called a briefing team, 
and it's our job to make sure that he has the correct information, all the time, on a 24-hour 
basis. And every morning, between 8 and 9 AM, we would give a briefing which covered 
everything that happened in the previous 24-hours, and everything scheduled to happen in the 
next 24-hours, and all the pertinent intelligence reports that we had received since the last 
briefing that he needed to know and that his staff members needed to know. Occasionally we 
would get messages marked `Top Secret, Magic, Restricted Information,' and it would be coded 
in such a way that all you had were answers to questions which you didn't know what the 
questions were so you really didn't know what the message was all about."
"But eventually I found myself in possession, holding two documents; one called `Project 
Grudge,' another one called `Operation Majority.' Project Grudge contained the history of alien 
involvement since around 1936, and it began talking about Germany's involvement with a 
crashed-disk that they had recovered in 1936 and were attempting to duplicate the technology. 
They were not successful despite what all these Nazi hunters want to tell you. If they had been 
successful, we would not have won the war, because you cannot beat those weapons! You 
cannot outfly those craft, you can't even think about it with conventional aircraft. If Germany 
had been successful, we would now have a German flag up in front of this podium."
"They did make some headway. When we went into Punta Mundy [sp] we captured 
documents, we got some scientists, we got some hardware. The Russians also got some 
documents, some scientists, and some hardware. It wasn't until 1947 that we were able to 
capture a craft, a whole craft, not all together but it was everything. And that occurred near 
the city of Roswell, New Mexico. There were dead aliens recovered from the craft. In Project 
Grudge I saw photographs of these dead aliens, of the craft, I saw photographs of live aliens, I 
saw photographs of autopsies, internal organs, I saw photographs of the alien designated 
`E.B.'[or Ebe] which was held in captivity from 1949 until June the 2nd, 1952 when he died. I 
saw the history of what they had been able to at that time put together, from incidents in the 
1800's which involved aliens and their craft."
"I saw the names of projects. I saw a project that was to fly recovered alien craft that had 
been recovered intact and undamaged, and some of them were recovered intact and undamaged, 
and how that happened I have no idea. It was called `Project Redlight,' and first was conducted 
from the Tonopah test range in the Nevada test sight and then was moved to a specially built 
area, ordered built by president Eisenhower, called `Area-51,' code named `Dreamland,' in the 
Groom [sp] dry lake area of the Nevada test sight, by secret executive order. It doesn't exist 
officially, if you ask anyone, or if you write letters to the government they will tell you it 
doesn't exist. However if you go out there at several places and see it, fly outside the 
boundaries and look down and see it, you know it's there, but according to the government it 
doesn't exist."
"The project to fly, test fly these craft, was ongoing until sometime in 1962 when a craft 
blew up not far from the test sight, in the air, and the explosion was seen over a three-state 
area. The pilots were killed, they had no idea what had happened or why the craft blew up, but 
they put Project Redlight on hold until a later date when the aliens supplied us with 3-craft and 
personnel to help us learn how to fly these craft. That project is ongoing and we now have not 
only alien craft that we are flying, we have craft we have built, using the captured technology, 
and some of the UFO's that people report seeing in the United States, and maybe even 
elsewhere, are flown by United States personnel."
"That may come as a shock to you. We have technology way beyond the limits of what we 
have been told. A lot of our development technologically, since the end of World War II, has been 
due to the exchange of technology which occurs in the area called `Area-51' on a regular basis 
...ongoing."
"When James Oberth, professor Oberth retired, many of you don't know who he is ...not too 
many space people in here. Professor Oberth was probably one of the greatest rocket scientists 
and space commentists that ever lived. When he retired, the government gave him a special 
award, there was a press conference, all kinds of ceremony, and when he got up to speak he 
said, `Gentlemen,' and I quote professor Oberth, he said, `Gentlemen, we cannot take credit for 
all the technological developments that we have had in the last decade. We have had help,' and 
that's where he stopped."
"One of the reporters raised his hand and said, `Professor Oberth, can you tell us what 
other country helped us?'"
"He said, `It was those little guys from out in space,' and then he got down and and would 
not comment any further. Now this occurred in 1959. I can go on and on but time doesn't allow 
it." 
"I will tell you ladies and gentlemen that there are all kinds of things going on all the time, 
we are making rapid progress in exposing this. Since I have begun talking, people have been 
coming out of the woodwork at a rapid rate, who know and have pieces of this puzzle, and are 
helping us to put it together, because I don't have all the answers. I saw an awful lot of ma-
terial, I have remembered an awful lot of it, I have probably, in my remembering, made some 
mistakes, and I guarantee you they're minor ones, if I have."
"We have just recently, for those of you who didn't believe that the Jason Society of the 
Jason Scholars, the secret group existed, we now have a letter from the Pentagon, with 51 
names of the Jason Scholars, an admission from the Pentagon that they hold the highest 
security clearances in the nation, an admission from the Pentagon that they hold the protocol 
rank of Rear Admiral, and are treated as such on any military installation or in any government 
office. There are 6 Nobel Prize winners on that list, there are the elite of the elite of the 
scientific world, they are the only ones who really know the truth about the technology today 
and about the real science of physics, because the one that we're being taught all the time... If 
you send your kids to college to learn physics you're wasting your money because they're 
teaching them stuff that doesn't work, it's not true, it's not real. Gravity is not what we think 
it is. There IS a Unified Theory! We already know what it is, it's what makes these craft work. 
It's absolutely incredible what's going on."
"How many of you keep up with Billy Goodman's show on KVEG out of Las Vegas? For those 
of you who don't, I would try tuning in on any night between 10:00 PM and 1:00 AM. It's 840 
on your AM dial, and the subject every night are those subjects that no other media person in 
the United States will touch with a 10foot pole, every single night except Saturday night. It's 
the only show that you can call in and talk to another caller, you've got 3-minutes to say 
whatever you want to say as long as you don't cuss or swear or slander anyone, and every 
night they're helping to expose this."
"When John Lear and I first said what was going on out at Groom Lake everybody said, 
`You're nuts, there's nothing going on out at Groom Lake!' The listeners of the Billy Goodman 
radio show put together an excursion and went up to Groom Lake and they all, ever since, 
every night, they go up there and watch them test fly the alien craft ...every night! The first 
night they had 100 people there. And 100 people saw 4 alien craft fly, doing things that no 
airplane and no helicopter can do. Now they don't tell us anymore that there's nothing happening 
at Groom Lake. What they tell us now is there's no such thing as aliens, it's all government 
secret projects. That's okay because we'll prove that wrong too eventually, it just takes 
awhile. Because where we WERE ...it's not where we're AT, and I'm really happy about that."
"Now, if you want to see what's happening right now, keep watching your movies, keep 
watching your television commercials, your alien programs on television, read Whitley 
Streeper's `Majestic' which is a part of the contingency plan called `Majestic' to test the 
reaction of the population to the presence of aliens on the Earth. And I have just finished my 
study of Whitley Streeper's book `Majestic,' and I'm gonna tell you right now that most of the 
documents in there, that he says are fiction, are real documents that came right out of Project 
Grudge. It is part of the government's campaign to leak information out in ways that they can 
always deny that it's real. There's only one thing wrong with the information in that book, the 
stories of the characters in there I know nothing about. What I'm talking about are the supposed 
government documents that he has in that book. I'm telling you tonight they're real. Those are 
some of the same documents that I saw in Project Grudge back between 1970 & 1973, and 
where we have wondered before, now we know that Whitley Streeper IS working for the 
government. And we had a suspicion anyway because in the front of his book he states that he 
got information and was helped by the research team of Moore, Shanderey, and Friedman. 
William Moore has publicly admitted on July the 1st that he is an agent of the United States 
Government, and we know that the others are too."
"This is gonna come out, and the reason they're doing it the way they're doing it is they 
know eventually you're gonna find out that it's all true and real. They're desensitizing you so 
that you're not shocked, so that there's no collapse of society as we know it, so that the 
religious structure doesn't fall to pieces, so that the stock market doesn't go crazy, because 
these were their original fears. Now, there's nothing we can do about the last one because it's 
already happened, there will be a segment of the population that worships the aliens, even 
though they're no different than us they're just from somewhere else, and they may look a 
little different. They are not gods. But there are already people worshiping the aliens and they 
predicted this would happen when they slapped the secret stamp all over all this stuff."
"You know, there's really nothing wrong with what's been happening except for 3 things;" 
[Cooper forgot to mention the 3rd thing, or was sidetracked, or included it into the 2nd thing.]  
Number one, when they decided to keep it secret they needed to finance it, they couldn't tell the 
public so they couldn't tell Congress. They decided to finance it with the sale, importation and 
sale, of drugs. Now in the documents that I read, in Operation Majority, it specifically stated 
that when George Bush was the president and CEO of Sapata [sp] Oil, he, in conjunction with the 
CIA, organized the first large scale drug importation into this country from South and Central 
America by fishing boat, to the offshore oil platforms of Sapata Oil, and then from there into 
the beach, thus bypassing all Customs inspections and law enforcement inspections of any kind. 
They are still bringing in drugs, to a limited extent, in this manner. Another manner is by CIA 
contract aircraft which, one of their bases of landing is Homestead [sp] Air Force Base in 
Florida. We have affidavits from air controllers who have vectored the planes in, who have 
made sure that they're not interfered with in any way. We have affidavits from personnel at 
Homestead Air Force Base who say the planes have been met by Zeb Bush, who's George Bush's 
son. We have affidavits from people who work in the Gulf of Mexico, in the offshore oil 
business, that yes indeed, the drugs are coming in, at least some of them, from the offshore oil 
platforms
From the audience came a clear statement, "Just say no?" "Pardon? ...Right! Just Say No! 
Well that's what we're gonna do ladies and gentlemen with your help ...we are going to say NO, 
no more! And you gotta do it, you gotta act. You either gotta act, or watch your country go 
down the tubes."
"Now, that's one of the things that's wrong. The next thing that's wrong is, to keep the 
secret, they killed a lot of people who tried to leak it out. And if I hadn't done it the way that I 
did it, you wouldn't be seeing me anywhere standing or walking on this Earth now. They killed 
president Kennedy and during the workshop, for those of you haven't seen the tape, I will show 
you, on the tape, who shot the president and why. Between '70 and '73, in Operation Majority 
it stated verbatim that President Kennedy ordered MJ-12 to cease the importation and sale of 
drugs to the American people, that he ordered them to implement a plan to reveal the presence 
of aliens to the American people within the following year. His assassination was ordered by 
the policy committee of the Vilderbergers. MJ-12 implemented the plan and carried it out in 
Dallas. It involved agents of the CIA, Division-5 of the FBI, the Secret Service, and the office 
of Naval Intelligence. President Kennedy was killed by the driver of his car, his name was 
William Greer, he used a recoilless, electrically operated, gas-powered assassination pistol 
that was specially built by the CIA to assassinate people at close range. It fired an explosive 
pellet which injected a large amount of shellfish poison into the brain, and that is why, in the 
documents, it stated that President Kennedy's brain was removed. If you've studied the case, 
you will find that indeed his brain disappeared. The reason for that is so that they would not 
find the particles of the exploding pellet or the shellfish poison in his brain which would have 
proved conclusively that Lee Harvy Oswald was NOT the assassin. In fact, Lee Harvy Oswald 
never fired a shot, he was the patsy."
Mr. Cooper paused briefly, and a lady in the audience asked the obvious question, "Why 
haven't YOU been assassinated?"
"If they were to kill me right now, what would you think?"  Cooper posed.
"That it's the truth," several people chimed.
"I've got `em right where I want `em. If they touch me, everyone who's ever heard me talk 
is gonna be absolutely enraged and is gonna know that everything I've said is true. As long as 
they don't touch me there's gonna be some of you who are always gonna be wondering. But 
eventually we're gonna bring enough proof out, and if you're here during the workshop you're 
gonna see an awful lot of it that's gonna prove to you that it's true. It's real. And it's 
happening!"
"Okay, I've tried to cover a lot of stuff, just briefly, because there's no time in 45 minutes 
to get into anything very much."
Mr. Cooper then announced the scheduled workshop session the following day in which 
tangible proofs could be seen but regrettably I was unable to attend. He then opened up the floor 
to questions and answers.
A muffled question was barely heard coming from the front of the room which in essence 
asked, "What about all the people in the press and others who were in Dallas and who saw the 
assassination? Couldn't they tell where the shot came from, why didn't they come forward? 
There must have been plenty."
"There was, we know that there was at least 18 who were all murdered within 2-years of 
the event. The odds of that happening are 1 in 300,000 trillion," Cooper replied.
Again a muffled question, "Why did the DRIVER have to shoot Kennedy?"
"Because the other fools missed! There were a total of 3-shots fired at President Kennedy, 
one hit him in the throat and didn't kill him and 2 of them hit John Connelly [sp]. The one that 
was fired from the grassy knoll hit the president in the throat. The other 2-shots came from 
directly behind the limousine, not the school book depository building, and hit Governor 
Connelly. Governor Connelly, in intelligence community circles, is known as a `can do' man, 
because he took 2-hits and still kept his mouth shut."
"How is it that the driver, sitting on the front, left-hand side of the car was able to blow 
off the right side of Kennedy's brain when the bullet actually entered in, and it would have been 
virtually impossible..." another person asked.
Mr. Cooper seized the gist of his question and injected, "For those of you who have been 
listening to all these talk show hosts, whose job it is to be a talk show host, and who have not 
done any legitimate research into this, if you come to the workshop, I will show you, on the 
tape, how it was done. You will see that Kennedy was, in fact slumped over against Jackie, his 
head was turned [this direction], it was very simple, it was easy and you will see it with your 
own eyes."
Another muffled, off-mike question from a member of the audience inquiring why no one 
else had come forward with the information Mr. Cooper was disseminating, and why those who 
knew it had kept it secret for so long was quickly answered, "It hasn't been, I'm talkin' about it 
now. Bill English was talkin' about it 8-years ago but everybody laughed at Bill English. John 
Lear's been talkin' about it for 3-years and everybody laughed at him. Now there's so many 
people have been talkin' about it, people are startin' to listen and it's about time. Because it's 
about time we that we quit being fools, and that's exactly what they think we are and we prove 
it to them every day."
Almost all of the questions from the audience were to faint to hear. The next one dealt with 
the alien technology and asked in essence, "Hasn't any one else [other than the government] 
come up with the energy technology that the aliens have?" to which Mr. Cooper answered, 
"There's been quite a few people who've come up with it and they've ALL been stopped, and 
they'll all continue to be stopped. Because once you have it you have FREE ENERGY. Once you 
have free energy they no longer have power over you. You understand? That's why they stop 
it."
Another question asking, "In the film of the assassination which was examined greatly by 
experts, why didn't THEY conclude that Kennedy's driver shot him?", to which Cooper asked, 
"Examined by WHO greatly?", and continued, "Most of the film that you can purchase has that 
segment cut out, and you can always tell it by the person running in the background, they'll run 
up to here... all of a sudden they'll be down here... running. You will see in most of the clips that 
you've ever seen on television, or in the movies, or that you're able to get your hands on, 
you'll see William Greer start to turn like this...", then a muffled comment from the audience, 
then Cooper answered, "That's because they clipped it out! And on a lot of them, I'll bet you 
most of you, every time you've seen the clip on television, never looked at the driver anyway. 
If you're really honest with yourself, and with me, you know your eyes were right on 
Kennedy."
A woman asked if any of the alien technology was being used in present-day military 
equipment and was answered, "Yes, there's a lot of alien technology contained in the Stealth 
bomber, that's right. The Stealth fighter was flying for 10-years before you even knew it 
existed."
As the hour drew late another question, more clearly stated, was asked of Mr. Cooper by a 
woman closer to my ears, "Before you let us all out of here, there's a bunch of us here 
wondering what can we all do to help bring this all out?"
A single word, "REVOLT" issued from several listeners simultaneously but Cooper 
responded, "Don't revolt. What you need to do is what you should have been doing all along. You 
need to get involved with your government. The first thing you need to do is purchase a copy of 
the Constitution, which I know that most of you don't have anywhere in your house, and if I 
were to go around this room and ask each person what the Constitution says, most of you 
couldn't tell me what the Constitution says from your grocery bill. And that's the truth! And 
that IS your country! So if you don't know what your Constitution is you're dead already, so the 
first thing you do is you get a copy of your Constitution. The second thing you do is you learn it! 
The third thing you do is you start calling your senators and your representatives, and the 
President of the United States and you start leaning on them, and you tell them, `Unless you 
straighten up the government, and unless we start getting the truth, and I mean the whole 
truth, and no more of this baloney, this's the last job you're ever gonna have, period. And I'll 
do everything in my power to make sure that comes true.' And then write them, frequently, 
saying the same thing. And then when they're in your area, in their area offices, take a little 
delegation and go see them, and make them understand that they're gonna be living in poverty 
because they're not gonna have a job anymore come election day. You see, the secret 
government may own the executive branch, but you people, all of us, we own the Congress, and 
the Congress makes the laws, and the Congress can impeach the entire executive branch! You 
also have the right to petition the government for a redress of injuries. So you ARE powerful, 
you've just forgotten that you're powerful, you've forgotten that that vote that you haven't 
been doing every time election comes around, that vote has abdicated your power. That vote 
you did not cast abdicated your power and gave it to those who are subverting the Constitution 
and are ruining this country."
A gentleman then asked, "What was traded to the aliens for their technology?"
"People and animals," replied Cooper succinctly.
Another man asked, "Is the Soviet Union in on any of this?" "The Soviet Union and the 
United States of America have been close allies since the end of World War II and have been 
closely participating in the secret space program all this time. The Soviets have the same thing 
we have, yes. What you see happening in the Soviet block right now is not the result of people 
standing up and saying, `We want to be free.' It's the result of the international bankers saying, 
`You tear down these barriers, and you meet the West half way, give your people some 
freedom, the West is gonna take some freedom away from their people so that we can put 
together a one-world economic system ...and have all the power. That's what's happening! If 
you don't believe it, stick around and watch it!"
A dubious woman then asked, "Why was the shellfish poison necessary? A lot of his brain 
was blown off anyway."
Cooper: "The shellfish poison? If you go to kill someone, one thing I've learned, I learned it 
real good, I learned it especially good when I went to Viet Nam; just `cause you shoot someone 
doesn't mean they're gonna die. And if they don't die, they're gonna be MAD. And if they've got 
a gun, you're dead. So you want the first time to be the last time. So if you really want to to 
kill somebody you don't play around. If you REALLY want to kill somebody ...you KILL them, you 
don't play, you make sure that when you shoot them, they're dead. That way they can't hurt 
you, can't hurt you at all."
Regrettably, the next question was totally unintelligible, I was thankful however that Mr. 
Cooper had a good public address system to amplify his reply, "The first moon landing was May 
the 22nd, 1962... or excuse me, that was the first landing on Mars. I'm sorry, May the 22nd, 
1962 was the winged probe that used a hydrozine propeller, flew around approximately 3-
orbits and landed on May the 22nd, 1962, was a joint United States / Russian endeavor. The 
first time that we landed on the moon was sometime during the ...probably middle 50's, because 
at the time when President Kennedy stated that he wanted a man to set foot on the moon by the 
end of the decade we already had a base there." 
"What about Mars?" came another quick question.
"We have a base on Mars also," Cooper calmly replied.
"When did that happen?"
"I don't know the exact date but I know the project's name, it was `Adam and Eve'."
"How long have you known about this?"
"Well, I revealed it publicly for the first time on July the 2nd, 1989, and within 3-weeks 
of the time I revealed it publicly, the government, to get the American people not to listen to 
me, came out and said that they planned to build a base on the moon and a colony on Mars. Now, 
3-days previous to my speech, representatives from NASA said, `We can never have a colony 
on Mars, it's impossible that there's a colony on Mars because Mars is a dead planet.' And it's 
NOT a dead planet, they've lied to you about Mars."
"My name is Dave [unintelligible], I'm a representative of the Crystic Institute, and I'd like 
to know why it was that when we sent a representative down to your home, at your request, 
you failed to produce any documentation to substantiate your allegations."
"In the first place it was NOT at my request, I have never contacted the Crystic Institute in 
my life. I was on the Carol Hemingway Show, she contacted the Crystic institute, she told 
Daniel Shehan [sp] that I had just said something about Bush and drugs on her show. HE called 
ME and told me he wanted to send an investigator, in fact he told me to even help the 
investigator because he was new at the job, his name was Wayne Nelson, he is a very good 
gentleman, he stayed at my house for 2-days, slept overnight on my couch, I gave him 
everything I had. I never told Daniel Shehan that I had any documents and I never told Wayne 
Nelson that I had any documents. In fact what I told Wayne Nelson, and I quote, `Wayne, if I did 
have the documents I couldn't admit it and I don't know you from Adam, and I don't know Daniel 
Shehan from Adam and what makes you think I would give them to you.' Who am I going to give 
them to and how quick are they going to disappear, that was my thought. Wayne Nelson also 
came to my house with a stack of documents this thick already substantiating the presence of 
aliens and extraterrestrial craft on this planet, and they are keeping it a secret, because 
they're afraid somebody'll laugh at them and they'll loose their credibility." 
"We need some patriots in this country, not people trying to make a name for themselves, 
trying to expose some drug runners, because those are just the bag-men. The real crook is in 
the White House! And you can tell THAT to Daniel Shehan!"
"Why didn't Jackie Kennedy report [the source of the lethal shot?" asked another audience 
member.
"Who's she gonna tell? The Secret Service just killed her husband and they're assigned to 
protect the President. Also, who had her children? The same Secret Service had her children at 
the time."
"Wasn't the craft at Roswell, New Mexico destroyed and all the aliens killed?" another 
young man asked.
"All the aliens were dead but the craft was not completely destroyed, it was severely 
damaged yes."
On an unrelated note an older gentleman asked, "Does that mean that `Alternative-3' is 
true?"
"Alternative-3 is absolutely true and so is `Alternative-2'." Then a man in his late 20's or 
early 30's raised his hand, said something I couldn't hear, and was apparently recognized by 
Mr. Cooper who asked him to take the podium and address the audience.
"What I said was that I thanked him [Cooper] very much for coming forward and saying 
something. A lot of my friends out here know that I was involved in the United States Special 
Forces, UFO Tracking and Research from the years 1971 to 1975. My name is Richard Murray, 
I was based out of the 71st Tac Controll Flight, McDill Air Force Base, Tampa, Florida. We were 
`Mobile Radar Command,' that was combat and war ready. We could be loaded on aircraft within 
an hour and many times were taken into areas [to] set up radar. A lot of times we were set up 
around Egland [sp] Air Force Base because that's where they have the `Altered Temperature 
Weather Control', where they can test various aircraft for their shrinkage and their dimension 
change during altered temperature. So, you know, I was told to shut up twice in 1982 and they 
finally threatened my parents life so I stayed quiet, and, that's when Wendel Stevens was taken 
off the streets... Just like that! And I hid for quite awhile, and decided to come back out when I 
heard that you're [Cooper] of such high rank as you were, and I felt just in saying that your 
credentials are true, and that what you have to say, everything you've said here today, I've 
heard before behind closed doors. And you've really tied the link for me to the Kennedy killing. 
And there's a few more links that have to go on with the Columbia Cartel and the money 
laundering. I think there's more than one cartel involved, and they're shutting one of them down 
so one can maintain a power, it just seems to be the way it works." 
A muffled question then came from someone in the audience regarding the person referred 
to as "Colonel Stevens."
"Uh, Colonel Stevens is out of jail now," replied Murray who was quickly asked another 
question I couldn't hear to which he answered, "I sure hope to hell so, he is a wonderful man and 
I give him my utmost respect and it was one of the saddest days in my life to see what 
happened to him happen to him. But I don't care what they say about Wendel Stevens, in my 
heart you can't discredit that man to me. I don't care who the hell you are. I won't listen to it, I 
don't give a shit if he was screwin' babies. You know... that doesn't... he's not that kind of a 
man, I don't care what you say, I know him personally."
The lecture was then essentially over. The "Alternative-2 and -3" that were referred to 
briefly are, to the best of my knowledge, two government contingency plans and I don't know 
which is which, to 1: Declare Martial Law and invalidate the Constitution on the premise that a 
terrorist group had entered the country with a Nuclear weapon with plans to detonate it in a 
major city. All dissidents would be rounded up and placed in concentration camps and the press 
and media would be nationalized. All this, if the information becomes public before they want it 
to or if the aliens attempt a takeover, and 2: Another contingency plan to contain or delay the 
release of this information, the details of which I am probably wrong about anyway.
My own personal reaction to Milton William Cooper; Mr. Cooper is a man who appears to be 
in his late fourties, of medium height and weight, and was dressed casually when I saw him. His 
hairline was receding slightly and he carried himself with confidence and purpose. Bill Cooper, 
as he was called by several in attendance, is not a professional speaker. His presentation lacked 
the polish of repeated deliveries which all the other lectures I heard during the Expo. had, but 
what it lacked in fine tuning was easily made up for in its content. Weather or not everyone in 
the audience was convinced of his sincerity I do not know, but the thunderous peal of applause 
which exploded as he concluded the session spoke for me and the majority of those in 
attendance. I am convinced beyond any reasonable doubt that Bill Cooper believes everything he 
said, and I'm about as skeptical as they come.
Please read the attached file written by Milton William Cooper which describes some of the 
government operations, projects, and code names that pertain to the above transcript. Perhaps 
from the two documents you can reach your own conclusions as to what "Alternative-2 and -3 
are.
The following is the original file "OPER-MAJ.TXT" which introduced Mr. Cooper to me.
	OPERATION MAJORITY
	FINAL RELEASE
	THERE WILL BE NO CORRECTIONS TO THIS FILE
	C - COPYRIGHT 1989 BY MILTON WILLIAM COOPER
	ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO QUOTE FROM THIS INFORMATION IN PRESS
RELEASES, PERIODICALS, AND SPEECHES.  INCLUSION IN ANY OTHER MEDIA REQUIRES MY 
EXPRESS WRITTEN PERMISSION.
This file contains the absolute true information regarding the alien presence on earth and 
the US Government's involvement with the aliens.  This file contains only the information as I 
saw it and only my information.  It does not contain any information from any other source.
It was necessary for me to issue the information previous to this release in a manner which 
would deceive the Government until someone was able to independently confirm my identity, 
my employment, my service record, my intelligence background, the identity of the person to 
which I gave the information in 1972, his acknowledgment of the information and when it was 
given to him, that the information is correct, that I have not seen him since 1974, and that I 
have not communicated with him in any form since 1976.  This was necessary because this file 
is my death warrant if MJ-12 continues to operate in a manner consistent with its history.
All in the last paragraph has been independently verified by 2 different people who have no 
connection with each other. I will only list one for obvious reasons.
	Tony Pelham, Journalist
	Las Vegas Bullet, (Newspaper)
	300 West Boston
	Las Vegas, Nevada  89102
The original information that I first released was not much MAJI that I was not a threat 
long enough to have independent verification of the facts before I risked death. [TRANSMISSION 
GARBLED]  I wish to make it absolutely clear that I do not consider myself a hero.  I believe that 
most of you would do the same thing if you knew the truth.  I gave an oath that I would uphold 
and protect the Constitution of the United States of America and I take that oath very seriously.  
I am doing no more now than I did when I fought in Vietnam.  I am doing my duty. 
Please make copies of this file and send it to your
Congressman, your Senator, the Attorney General of the United States, and to the Supreme 
Court.  Send it also to everyone you know.  Attach copies of the Bill English file and John Lears 
file.  Send anything else you may have which tends to support the information.
I, Milton William Cooper, 1311 S. Highland #205, Fullerton, California, 92632, (714) 680-
9537, do solemnly swear that the information contained in this file is true and correct to the 
best of my knowledge.  I swear that I saw this information in 1972 in the performance of my 
duties as a member of the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander In Chief of the Pacific 
Fleet as a Petty Officer in the US Navy.  I swear that I underwent hypnotic regression in order 
to make the information as accurate as possible.  I swear that I can and will take a lie detector 
test or any other test of any reputable person's choosing in order to confirm this information.  I 
swear that I can and will undergo hypnotic regression conducted by any reputable and qualified 
Doctor of any reputable person's choosing in order to confirm this information.  I will not, 
however submit to any test or hypnosis by anyone who is now or has ever been connected with 
the Government in any capacity for obvious reasons.
The following is brief listing of everything that I personally saw and know from 1972 and 
does not contain any input from any other source whatsoever.
MAJESTY was listed as the code word for the President of the United States for 
communications concerning this information. 
OPERATION MAJORITY is the name of the operation responsible for every aspect, project, 
and consequence of alien presence on earth.
GRUDGE Contains 16 volumes of documented information collected from the beginning of the 
United States investigation of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO's) and Identified Alien Crafts 
(IAC).  The project was funded by CIA confidential funds (nonappropriated) and money from the 
illicit drug trade. Participation in the illegal drug trade was justified in that it would identify 
and eliminate the weak elements of our society. The purpose of project GRUDGE was to collect 
all scientific, technological, medical and intelligence information from UFO/IAC sightings and 
contacts with alien life forms.  This orderly file of collected information has been used to 
advance the United States Space Program.
MJ-12 is the name of the secret control group.  President Eisenhower commissioned a 
secret society known as THE JASON SOCIETY (JASON SCHOLARS) to sift through all the facts, 
evidence, technology, lies and deception and find the truth of the alien question.  The society 
was made up of 32 of the most prominent men in the country in 1972 and the top 12 members 
were designated MJ-12.  MJ-12 has total control over everything. They are designated by the 
codes J-1, J-2, etc all the way through the members of the Jason Society.
The director of the CIA was appointed J-1 and is the Director of MJ-12.  MJ-12 is 
responsible only to the President.  MJ-12 runs most of the world's illegal drug trade.  This was 
done to hide funding and thus keep the secret from the Congress and the people of the United 
States.  It was justified in that it would identify and eliminate the weak elements of our 
society.  The cost of funding the alien connected projects is higher than anything you can 
imagine.  MJ-12 assassinated President Kennedy when he informed them that he was going to 
tell the public all the facts of the alien presence.  He was killed by the Secret Service agent 
driving his car and it is plainly visible in the film held from public view.
A secret meeting place was constructed for MJ-12 in MARYLAND and it was described as 
only accessible by air.  It contains full living, recreational, and other facilities for MJ-12 and 
the JASON SOCIETY.  It is code named "THE COUNTRY CLUB". Only those with TOP 
SECRET/MAJIC clearance are allowed to go there. 
MAJI is the MAJORITY AGENCY FOR JOINT INTELLIGENCE.  All information, disinformation, 
and intelligence is gathered and evaluated by this agency.  This agency is responsible for all 
disinformation and operates in conjunction with the CIA, NSA, and the Defense Intelligence 
Agency.  This is a very powerful organization and all alien projects are under its control.  MAJI 
is responsible only to MJ-12.
SIGMA is the project which first established communications with the aliens and is still 
responsible for communications. 
PLATO is the project responsible for Diplomatic relations with the aliens.  This project 
secured a formal treaty (illegal under the Constitution) with the aliens.  The terms were that 
the aliens would give us technology.  In return we agreed to keep their presence on earth a 
secret, not to interfere in any way with their actions, and to allow them to abduct humans and 
animals.  The aliens agreed to furnish MJ-12 with a list of abductees on a periodic basis.
MAJIC is the security classification and clearance of all alien connected material, projects, 
and information.  MAJIC means MAJI Controlled.
AQUARIUS is a project which compiled the history of alien presence and their interaction 
with Homo Sapiens upon this planet for the last 25,000 years and culminating with the Basque 
people who live in the mountainous country on the border of France and Spain and the Syrians.
GARNET is the project responsible for control of all information and documents regarding 
this subject and accountability of the information and documents.
PLUTO is a project to evaluate all UFO/ IAC information
pertaining to space telZk{k+9kR [TRANSMISSION GARBLED] 
POUNCE is the project formed to recover all downed/ crashed craft and aliens.
REDLIGHT is the project to test fly recovered alien craft.  It is conducted at AREA 51 
(DREAMLAND) in Nevada.  It was aided when the aliens gave us craft and helped us fly them.  
The initial project was somewhat successful in that we flew a recovered craft but it blew up in 
the air and the pilots were killed.  The project was suspended at that time until the aliens 
agreed to help us.
SNOWBIRD was established as a cover for project REDLIGHT. Several flying saucer type 
craft were built using conventional technology.  They were unveiled to the press and flown in 
front of the press.  The purpose was to explain accidental sightings or disclosure of REDLIGHT 
as having been the SNOWBIRD craft. 
LUNA is the alien base on the far side of the Moon.  It was seen and filmed by the Apollo 
Astronauts.  A base, a mining operation using very large machines, and the very large alien 
craft described in sighting reports as MOTHER SHIPS exist there. 
NRO is the National Recon Organization based at Fort Carson, Colorado.  It is responsible for 
security for all alien or alien craft connected projects.
DELTA is the designation for the specific arm of the NRO which is especially trained and 
tasked with security of these projects.
JOSHUA is a project to develop a low frequency pulsed sound generating weapon.  It was 
said that this weapon would be effective against the alien craft and beam weapons.
EXCALIBUR is a weapon to destroy the alien underground bases. It is to be a missile capable 
of penetrating 1000 meters of Tuff/hard packed soil such as that found in New Mexico with no 
operational damage.  Missile apogee not to exceed 30,000 feet AGL and impact must not deviate 
in excess of 50 meters from designated target.  The device will carry a 1 megaton nuclear 
warhead.
ALIENS, there were 4 types of aliens mentioned in the papers. A	LARGE NOSED GREY 
with whom we have the treaty, the GREY reported in abductee cases that works for the LARGE 
NOSED GREY, a	blond human like type described as the NORDIC, a red haired human like type 
called the ORANGE.  The home of the aliens were described as being a star in the Constellation 
of Orion, Barnards star, and Zeta Riticuli 1&2.  I cannot remember even under hypnosis which 
alien belongs to which star.
EBE is the name or designation given to the live alien captured at the 1949 Roswell crash.  
He died in captivity. 
KRLL OR KRLLL OR CRLL OR CRLLL pronounced Crill or Krill was the hostage left with us at 
the first Holloman landing as a pledge that the aliens would carry out their part of the basic 
agreement reached during that meeting.  KRLL gave us the  foundation of the yellow book which 
was completed by the guests at a later date.  KRLL became sick and was nursed by Dr. G. 
Mendoza who became the expert on alien biology and medicine. KRLL later died.  His information 
was disseminated under the pseudonym O.H. Cril or Crill.
GUESTS were aliens exchanged for humans who gave us the balance of the yellow book.  At 
the time I saw the information there were only 3 left alive.  They were called (P&#'s) Alien 
Life Forms.  [TRANSMISSION GARBLED]
RELIGION  The aliens claim to have created Homo Sapiens through hybridization.  The papers 
said that RH-blood was proof of this.  They further claimed to have created all four major 
religions.  They showed a hologram of the crucifixion of Christ which the Government filmed.  
They claim that Jesus was created by them.
ALIEN BASES exist in the four corners area of Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada.  
Six bases were described in the 1972 papers, all on indian reservations and all in the four 
corners area. The base near Dulce was one of them.
MURDER  The documents stated that many military and government personnel had been 
terminated (murdered without due process of law) when they had attempted to reveal the 
secret.
CRAFT RECOVERIES  The documents stated that many craft had been recovered.  The early 
ones from Roswell, Aztec, Roswell again, Texas, Mexico, and other places.
GENERAL DOOLITTLE made a prediction that one day we would have to reckon with the aliens 
and the document stated that it appeared that General Doolittle was correct.
ABDUCTIONS were occurring long before 1972.  The document stated that humans and 
animals were being abducted and or mutilated.  Many vanished without a trace.  They were 
taking sperm and ova samples, tissue, performed surgical operations, implanted a spherical 
device 40 to 80 microns in size near the optic nerve in the brain and all attempts to remove it 
resulted in the death of the patient.  The document estimated that 1 in every 40 people had been 
implanted.  This implant was said to give the aliens total control of that human.
CONTINGENCY PLAN SHOULD THE INFORMATION BECOME PUBLIC OR SHOULD THE ALIENS 
ATTEMPT A TAKEOVER.
This plan called for a public announcement that a terrorist group had entered the United 
States with an Atomic weapon.  It would be announced that the terrorists planned to detonate 
the weapon in a major city.  Martial Law would be declared and all persons with implants would 
be rounded up along with all dissidents and would be placed into concentration camps.  The 
press, radio, and TV would be nationalized and controlled. Anyone attempting to resist would be 
arrested or killed.
CONTINGENCY PLAN TO CONTAIN OR DELAY RELEASE OF INFORMATION This plan called for 
the use of MAJESTIC TWELVE as a disinformation ploy to delay and confuse the release of 
information should anyone get close to the truth.  It was selected because of the similarity of 
spelling and the similarity to MJ-12.  It was designed to confuse memory and to result in a 
fruitless search for material which did not exist.
SOURCE OF MATERIAL CONTAINED IN THE DOCUMENTS WHICH I SAW The source of the 
material was an ONI counter-intelligence operation against MJ-12 in order for the Navy to find 
out the truth of what was really going on.  The Navy (at that time or at least the Navy that I 
worked for) were not participants in any of this.  The different services and the government 
conduct this type of operation against each other all the time.  The result of this operation was 
that the Navy cut themselves in for a piece of the action (technology) and control of some 
projects. 
As you can see this file is only a little different from my previous file.  Only some names 
were scrambled previously to confuse the government long enough for someone to verify that 
what I have said is the truth.  I have added information in this file that puts me in absolute 
danger.  I have sent a copy of this file to people all over the country and will continue to do so.  
Please get this file into as many hands as you can and maybe that will protect me but I doubt it.
HISTORY WILL BE THE JUDGE OF ME AND THIS INFORMATION AND I HAVE NO FEAR OF THAT 
JUDGEMENT.  I SWEAR THAT THIS INFORMATION IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST OF MY 
KNOWLEDGE.
I wish to thank all those people who have aided me in reaching this point and for their 
patience and understanding.  I owe you all more than I can ever repay.
Finally, it does not matter who is right and who is wrong or if a project name is in the 
wrong place.  It does not matter who is working for who or what is really what.  It should be 
obvious by now that something sinister and terribly wrong is going on involving the government 
and the UFO phenomenon.  We must all band together and expose it now.  I have done my part in 
the best manner that I could.  I can add nothing else except my testimony in Congress or a court 
of law that what I saw and have written in this file is true and that I saw it.
Everything in my previous file that does not conflict with this file is true and correct to the 
best of my knowledge and some of it is from sources and research.  You may combine the files 
to get the entire picture.  Throw out only that information which conflicts with that contained in 
this file. 
There will be no further additions or corrections to this information either now or in the 
future.  My file is complete and stands to be judged by history.  Sometime in the future the 
exact papers that I saw will surface and you will all see this exact information contained within 
them. 
Milton William Cooper 
1/10/89