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Discussion about permacomputing, small computing, post collapse computing, and related concepts. Considering the clearly related subs on bubble, I guess this sub acts as a place for higher level coordination of ideas in this space.
When it comes to arbitrary, "realtime" composability, the Unix model of files, streams, and processes has yet to be topped. GUIs are vey rarely composable, and also hard to script. It makes me think maybe composability has to be one dimensional, and textual. This idea that a keyboard is fundamental to a computer but a different pointing device doesn't feels slightly off. I wonder if there is an elegant multi dimensional method of composability which simplifies down to simple compute models and...
I managed to get a gemini capsule running on an old phone! it only starts listening on its port when I tell Agate where its content folder is, and goes down when I cancel that command. Not sure why. at least SSH works too, programming on a Blackberry keyboard is not easy. Still a fun way to use old phones.
💬 1 comment · 4 likes · Nov 12 · 2 days ago
(My apologies if this seems too off topic, but...) Connecting your "I must believe in humanity" comment (on one of my posts) to this, I tend to believe the likes of permacomputing (or its seeming "permaculture" roots) is focusing too high in the "how shit happens" stack.. that humanity must first focus on what might be called "perma-being-decent-to-others", otherwise all other endeavor is doomed to behavioral entropy - including side effects like Tower-of-Babel-ism. I hope that doesn't sound...
💬 1 comment · 1 like · Oct 31 · 2 weeks ago
A potential mental model: we cannot communicate. I need to *imply* a computer program by giving you a file to parse, based on the file contents, but I also need to create the file contents based on what you would also want the file contents to be given that we have the shared goal of independently writing a program to parse the file. Therefore we do not need to share anything and can write the program. Is this possible?
💬 1 comment · Oct 31 · 2 weeks ago
There are a lot of permacomputing adjacent subs but no actual permacomputing sub? I guess it makes sense because centralisation of terminology is a bad thing in a bottom up diverse ideology, but complexity also abounds from the Tower of Babel that bottom up systems create. I'm still trying to understand what I'm looking at and how. But jealous of, say, u/stack just straight up messing with Forth. I don't know how a permacomputing world can hang together.
💬 1 like · Oct 31 · 2 weeks ago