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Re: "Privacy rights of children"
@Troler I can understand your concerns, the use of govt issued IDs to enforce wasn't really on my radar. I do think it primarily up to parents to decide and enforce.
However how do we enforce the right drive right now? With a license. If you don't have a license you can't drive, so there really isn't any tracking or privacy concern for those under age who don't have a license. Maybe make it a requirement to identify yourself with a drivers or voter ID to signup for major social platforms.
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2023-08-19 · 3 months ago
Of course there will always be underground or opensource smaller platforms available that wouldn't enforce this. But perhaps being on those platforms where there would be far narrower reach in your social contacts wouldn't be a bad thing.
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If you don't have a license, you can't drive
Sure you can, you just need to avoid getting pulled over.
Humor aside, comparing driving and social media with respect to privacy is pretty weak. There's a LOT more information about someone collected on social media (private DMs, social circle, interests, photos, GPS coordinates, etc) that aren't collected and sent to a private corporation just by having a driver's license.
Maybe make it a requirement to identify yourself with a drivers or voter ID to signup for major social platforms
Privacy issues aside, this just makes accessing information harder for people. I didn't have any valid form of government ID for years because I was too poor and too far from the nearest DMV, and this issue has only grown as voter suppression tactics have been used to make getting an ID harder in many areas.
There's also an argument to be made about how restricting minors from accessing social media restricts their access to information. As awful as it is, social media is used to disseminate a ton of relevant community information. There are plenty of businesses whose online presence is just Facebook pages, plenty of events that are only announced through social media, politicians post on it, police stations post updates about crimes in the area on it, news agencies and reporters disseminate info on it, local community groups organize in it. a 15 year old has just as much of a right to access that information as you or I do.
I generally agree with you, not to mention the fact that these products funnel information about your family and your children straight into the hands of data brokers.
2023-08-20 · 3 months ago
For us it was easy enough to do this in a way we like: once a kid is old enough / responsible enough to roam, they get a phone so they can call us if they need to. Dumb phone first because this likely happens before they are old enough to use a smart phone without hitting all the bad parts.
This is pretty great as it means they can do more on their own terms.
No active tracking by us.
As with a lot of recent tech, it's all about how you choose to use it :)
Re: social media, our kids are not nearly old enough that we'd let them post; that comes much later. (By my preference, not at all, but I guess they get to choose at some point!) Of course, we talk about why this is.
Why not teach kids how to make websites and once they are old enough allow them to host it on Gemini or Neocities?
2023-08-20 · 2 months ago
Being a latchkey kid, I am often amused by the sea change that happened during my lifetime. For a while there were all those 'babyproofing' stores with locks and soft pads for every corner of your apartment. Heh. Now with tracked phones, kids get no chance to make little mistakes, but can easily make large ones (being exposed to the Net)...
2023-08-31 · 2 months ago
Privacy rights of children — As a parent of young children I hear about parents with older kids equipping their kids with all this surveillance hardware so they can track their kids for their apparent safety. I am strongly against this but I know the old privacy vs safety argument, and when it's your own kids at that age "you'll do it too" I just feel like this is just prepping future generations to feel like they're constantly watched and then they're just okay with it as adults. it starts...
💬 gritty · 15 comments · 2 likes · 2023-08-18 · 3 months ago