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Re: "[gemini link] — Are we rebuilding the centralized web,..."

In: s/discuss

@sirwilburthefirst:

I have my own Tinylog. How do I reply to a message from someone else's Tinylog?

The Tinylog client is the answer there. Tinylogs themselves are just a way for broadcasting your messages. The clients are supposed to fetch everyone's logs and track the reply/thread connections.

@satch:

this kind of conversation we're having now

Implementing this kind of a chat via multiple instances is technically possible, just look at ActivityPub. But it's a ton more complicated than what we have here. Tech/apps built on Gemini should IMO be somewhat on the same level of complexity than Gemini itself.

🚀 skyjake

2023-05-17 · 6 months ago

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👻 sirwilburthefirst

@skyjake That would mean that the client also needs a way for me to post messages to my Tinylog. I haven't seen one that does. I currently use some custom code that allows me to add new logs.

Maybe ideally Titan would be used for this. But the client needs some UI to allow replies. I personally don't know what the format is for a reply. So I've never done it.

Ideally imo, the client would be the browser. The browser can detect if a page is a Tinylog and display some additional UI for replies.

🐐 satch

@skyjake yeah there’s some truth to that - but it doesn’t have to be as complicated as ActivityPub, that’s for sure

I think federation could be done very well

🐶 lori

My initial thought is that the difference between the wider web and gemini space is that a large percentage of the people posting in a place like this DO have their own places and their own blogs and whatnot. Whereas on the wider internet a lot of people have, say, a Twitter account, and nothing else. So if they lose that, they lose everything. I think you need some places to gather, and it's okay if some of those places are on the bigger side. But it can't be the only place you have a digital identity and fingerprint. I think it's more important to preserve that culture than it is to try to break a big forum into smaller forums.

🐐 satch

@lori i agree

That’s the key thing, it’s about reliance

Preserving the culture of having homes, not just town squares

🚀 bacardi55

I wrote a (too long) comment here:

gemini://gmi.bacardi55.io/gemlog/2023/05/18/reflexion-about-bubble-part-2/

@sirwilburthefirst : The last paragraph is dedicated to your tinylog comments :).

2023-05-18 · 6 months ago

🚀 slondr

It would be cool if we could add links to our gemlogs that show up in our u/ feeds by default

Original Post

🌒 s/discuss

— Are we rebuilding the centralized web, minus tracking?

Here's fodder for s/discuss. How worried should we be about centralization in Geminispace?

💬 skyjake · 25 comments · 1 like · 2023-05-16 · 6 months ago