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Difference between gopher and gemini?

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📅 First Message: 2021-07-10 19:46
📅 Last Message: 2021-07-11 19:14

yosuu@tutanota.com <yosuu (a) tutanota.com>

📅 Sent: 2021-07-10 19:46
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What is the difference between gopher and gemini, what makes gemini better per say?

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Nathan Galt <mailinglists (a) ngalt.com>

📅 Sent: 2021-07-10 22:10
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On Sat, Jul 10, 2021, at 12:46 PM, yosuu at tutanota.com wrote:
> What is the difference between gopher and gemini, what makes gemini 
> better per say?
> 

I took a look at the Gopher directory/list file format and ran away 
screaming. Prefixing every single line with its type and hard-wrapping all 
text lines? Aieeeeeee.

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Andrew Singleton <singletona082 (a) gmail.com>

📅 Sent: 2021-07-10 22:14
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This is why I never bothered with gopher in spite of it appealing to my 
want for something simpler. Gemini suits my sensebilities while also being 
far friendlier to work with.

Note: there are a lot of gopher people on the list so let's all be friendly. 

Jul 10, 2021 5:10:49 PM Nathan Galt <mailinglists at ngalt.com>:

> On Sat, Jul 10, 2021, at 12:46 PM, yosuu at tutanota.com wrote:
>> What is the difference between gopher and gemini, what makes gemini
>> better per say?
>> 
> 
> I took a look at the Gopher directory/list file format and ran away 
screaming. Prefixing every single line with its type and hard-wrapping all 
text lines? Aieeeeeee.

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Michael Lazar <lazar.michael22 (a) gmail.com>

📅 Sent: 2021-07-11 19:14
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On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 3:47 PM <yosuu at tutanota.com> wrote:
>
> What is the difference between gopher and gemini, what makes gemini
better per say?

Off the top of my head...


	Actual, usable error codes (gopher's "3" is useless)
	A hypertext document that you can edit by hand
	A semantic document structure (headers, quotes, bullets, etc.)
	SUPPORT FOR MOBILE SCREEN SIZES
	Response mimetypes (no guessing what "binary" means)
	Response encodings (no guessing between UTF-8 and Latin-1)
	A reliable end-of-transmission marker (gopher's "." is useless)
	First class URL link support (no hURL hacks)
	A standard URL structure (most people parse gopher URLs wrong)
	Support for virtual hosting
	Mandated TLS encryption
	Support for sessions via client certificates
	Support for server redirects


- Michael (I love gopher by the way)

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