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Hi Geminauts, Splitting the daily navigation across HTTP and Gemini is becoming frustrating, I'd like to do everything inside the Geminspace... I am not a programmer and often I just dream about unrealistic thing but I toss this idea here... Since we have, at least in the *nix world, a lot of TUI web browser, I wonder if it would be feasible/possible creating a kind of local server proxy that convert on the fly the page from html to gemini, let's call it Geminator. I have my fantastic Geminator runtime as background process and in my Gemini client I write something like: gemini://localhost/geminator/www.phoronix.com Let's that we can decide which back-end using (e.g. w3m, elinks, etc...) this would be the process in my dream: 1. I do the request to Geminator; 2. Geminator passes the request to w3m; 3. w3m renders and buffers the page and passes it to Geminator; 4. Geminator translates the page into a Gemini one (trying to convert also links in Geminator readable links); 5. Geminator send the page back to my client; 6. I am happily browsing Internet from my favorite Gemini client. For sure it won't be perfect, it will also behaves weirdly, but I think it would be enough to navigate pages like for instance phoronix, or other news pages, some federated social networks, etc... Well I wrote it, I hope to not be banned from the mailing list... :D TGL
Meanwhile I would be happy if this/terminal browsers like lynx. W3m, etc simply gained Gemini support.
I think majority of these TUI web browsers are just kept alive by the distros maintainers and their development is quite staled... On June 21, 2021 9:34:06 AM EDT, Andrew Singleton <singletona082 at gmail.com> wrote: >Meanwhile I would be happy if this/terminal browsers like lynx. W3m, >etc simply gained Gemini support.
Hi gnuserland, There is Duckling Proxy. "Duckling proxy is a Gemini proxy to access the Small Web. Connecting to it with your Gemini client means you can access many web pages directly with your favourite client." => https://github.com/LukeEmmet/duckling-proxy I recently created an elinks feature request for gemini, my favorite console http browser, it appearently also supports gopher, nntp, ftp and bittorrent. https://github.com/rkd77/elinks/issues/121 Op ma 21 jun. 2021 om 15:21 schreef The Gnuserland <gnuserland at mailbox.org>: > > Hi Geminauts, > > Splitting the daily navigation across HTTP and Gemini is becoming > frustrating, I'd like to do everything inside the Geminspace... > > I am not a programmer and often I just dream about unrealistic thing but > I toss this idea here... > > Since we have, at least in the *nix world, a lot of TUI web browser, I > wonder if it would be feasible/possible creating a kind of local server > proxy that convert on the fly the page from html to gemini, let's call > it Geminator. > > I have my fantastic Geminator runtime as background process and in my > Gemini client I write something like: > > gemini://localhost/geminator/www.phoronix.com > > Let's that we can decide which back-end using (e.g. w3m, elinks, etc...) > this would be the process in my dream: > > > 1. I do the request to Geminator; > > 2. Geminator passes the request to w3m; > > 3. w3m renders and buffers the page and passes it to Geminator; > > 4. Geminator translates the page into a Gemini one (trying to convert > also links in Geminator readable links); > > 5. Geminator send the page back to my client; > > 6. I am happily browsing Internet from my favorite Gemini client. > > > For sure it won't be perfect, it will also behaves weirdly, but I think > it would be enough to navigate pages like for instance phoronix, or > other news pages, some federated social networks, etc... > > > Well I wrote it, I hope to not be banned from the mailing list... :D > > > TGL >
Hi Francis, this is pretty cool and exactly what I was just dreaming about! I look forward to try it ASAP! Thanks for sharing this!!! My best, TGL On 6/21/21 11:31 AM, Francis Siefken wrote: > Hi gnuserland, > > There is Duckling Proxy. > "Duckling proxy is a Gemini proxy to access the Small Web. Connecting > to it with your Gemini client means you can access many web pages > directly with your favourite client." > => https://github.com/LukeEmmet/duckling-proxy > <https://github.com/LukeEmmet/duckling-proxy> > > I recently created an elinks feature request for gemini, my favorite > console http browser, it appearently also supports gopher, nntp, ftp > and bittorrent. > https://github.com/rkd77/elinks/issues/121 > <https://github.com/rkd77/elinks/issues/121> > > Op ma 21 jun. 2021 om 15:21 schreef The Gnuserland > <gnuserland at mailbox.org <mailto:gnuserland at mailbox.org>>: > > > > Hi Geminauts, > > > > Splitting the daily navigation across HTTP and Gemini is becoming > > frustrating, I'd like to do everything inside the Geminspace... > > > > I am not a programmer and often I just dream about unrealistic thing but > > I toss this idea here... > > > > Since we have, at least in the *nix world, a lot of TUI web browser, I > > wonder if it would be feasible/possible creating a kind of local server > > proxy that convert on the fly the page from html to gemini, let's call > > it Geminator. > > > > I have my fantastic Geminator runtime as background process and in my > > Gemini client I write something like: > > > > gemini://localhost/geminator/www.phoronix.com <http://www.phoronix.com> > > > > Let's that we can decide which back-end using (e.g. w3m, elinks, etc...) > > this would be the process in my dream: > > > > > > 1. I do the request to Geminator; > > > > 2. Geminator passes the request to w3m; > > > > 3. w3m renders and buffers the page and passes it to Geminator; > > > > 4. Geminator translates the page into a Gemini one (trying to convert > > also links in Geminator readable links); > > > > 5. Geminator send the page back to my client; > > > > 6. I am happily browsing Internet from my favorite Gemini client. > > > > > > For sure it won't be perfect, it will also behaves weirdly, but I think > > it would be enough to navigate pages like for instance phoronix, or > > other news pages, some federated social networks, etc... > > > > > > Well I wrote it, I hope to not be banned from the mailing list... :D > > > > > > TGL > >
Quite, I did appreciate eLinks given its extensibility with Lua and Guile. Alas, the lack of response following distro maintainers messages meant it was removed from distros like OpenBSD. The Gnuserland <gnuserland at mailbox.org> writes: > I think majority of these TUI web browsers are just kept alive by the distros maintainers and their development is quite staled... > > > > On June 21, 2021 9:34:06 AM EDT, Andrew Singleton <singletona082 at gmail.com> wrote: >>Meanwhile I would be happy if this/terminal browsers like lynx. W3m, >>etc simply gained Gemini support. -- Jonathan McHugh indieterminacy at libre.brussels
I hadnt realised that eLinks has been resussitated with a fork (Felinks)! Thanks for the heads up, the NEWS file looks promising => https://github.com/rkd77/elinks/blob/master/NEWS Particularly so, given fresh references to Python 3, as well as brotli and zstd encodings. However, its worth citing from this => https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/network/felinks/ ``` NOTE: Felinks will conflict with Elinks, so currently only one can be installed at a time ``` It would probably be best for that project to be more clear that the original eLinks project is dead with the Felinks name and a new site (Im clearly behind the curve. It would be good to know how this project is percieved by the wider FOSS community. Personally, it would be nice to dust off my old eLinks scripts and see how they apply following bitrot and forking. Hopefully it would be a good excuse to use PEGs from Lua and/or Guile to convert HTML content to Gemini content. Id like to do this from September. Id assert that (f)elinks would be a useful interface not only for working across HTML and Gemini content but additionally pushing HTML towards Gemini content (Im now recalling a very old conversation regarding eLinks functionality, whereby my friend likened such intervensions to 'Stalinux'). Ta, -- Jonathan McHugh indieterminacy at libre.brussels Francis Siefken <fsiefken at gmail.com> writes: > Hi gnuserland, > > There is Duckling Proxy. > "Duckling proxy is a Gemini proxy to access the Small Web. Connecting to it > with your Gemini client means you can access many web pages directly with > your favourite client." > => https://github.com/LukeEmmet/duckling-proxy > > I recently created an elinks feature request for gemini, my favorite > console http browser, it appearently also supports gopher, nntp, ftp and > bittorrent. > https://github.com/rkd77/elinks/issues/121 >
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