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[ANN] [tech] Romulus Gemini Client

Luke Emmet <luke (a) marmaladefoo.com>

Hello everyone

I've been working on a new console Gemini client - Romulus. It's cross 
platform, written in C#.

Its new, so there may be some rough edges. But already its quite 
full-featured, particularly from a user interface perspective.

Key features include:


    layout to indicate the page elements and structure. A quiet UI to 
save your eyes.

gemtext style

the like


For further details, screenshots and downloads, see

   gemini://gemini.marmaladefoo.com/romulus/

   https://github.com/LukeEmmet/Romulus

For now I have a precompiled binary for windows, but it should compile 
for other platforms. If anyone can assist with how to cross-compile the 
C# for other platforms, please let me know. This is an area I am still 
finding my way in.

   https://www.marmaladefoo.com/pages/romulus

If you manage to compile it or try it out, any feedback would be 
appreciated.

  - Luke

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Frank JΓΌdes <Frank.Juedes (a) linux4specialists.com>

Hi Luke,

a very nice program and easy to install on Windows. I have been feared 
in the past by our developers for discovering even the weirdest issues 
in their programs? I have tested your program - on Windows - against my 
server, so here's a list for you: ?

  * It does not display *all* characters, defined in Unicode version 13.
    - That is very likely nothing you can fix before Micro$oft gets its
    act together and fixes the issues with the terminal-window object!
  * If there are a lot of headers in the document, the /structure/
    display overflows and only the top headers will be displayed:
    gemini://h2903872.stratoserver.net/cgi-bin/man2gmi/-k%20str
  * Something doesn't work right when you paste a Gemini-URL out of
    another browser into the input-box of Romulus, it either reported
    that i was unable to connect or crashed:
  * The time-out of five seconds prevents some of the CGI programs on my
    server from being used with Romulus:
    gemini://h2903872.stratoserver.net/cgi-bin/figlet/Romulus - will
    sometimes work, when the big, fat Database on that machine isn't
    allocating all resources to itself, but usually if fails with a
    time-out. It would be nice to be able to configure the timeout.

That's it! - I'm trying to make it run in Linux and will test there.

Best regards from Charleston (WV),
 ???? Frank/2


On 2021-05-19 18:03, Luke Emmet wrote:
> Hello everyone
>
> I've been working on a new console Gemini client - Romulus. It's cross 
> platform, written in C#.
>
> Its new, so there may be some rough edges. But already its quite 
> full-featured, particularly from a user interface perspective.
>
> Key features include:
>
> * Interactive menus
> * Mouse support, including wheelmouse scrolling for consoles that 
> support it
> * Monochrome yet beautiful gemtext rendering, by using whitespace and
> ?? layout to indicate the page elements and structure. A quiet UI to 
> save your eyes.
> * Fixes vertical spacing between elements for a global homogenous 
> gemtext style
> * Pretty text rendering, including hanging bullets, nice quotations 
> and the like
> * Interactive table of contents for each page
> * Fast history navigation, including remembering page offset
> * Bookmark support
>
> For further details, screenshots and downloads, see
>
> gemini://gemini.marmaladefoo.com/romulus/
>
> https://github.com/LukeEmmet/Romulus
>
> For now I have a precompiled binary for windows, but it should compile 
> for other platforms. If anyone can assist with how to cross-compile 
> the C# for other platforms, please let me know. This is an area I am 
> still finding my way in.
>
> https://www.marmaladefoo.com/pages/romulus
>
> If you manage to compile it or try it out, any feedback would be 
> appreciated.
>
> ?- Luke
>
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My Gemini capsule orbits at 
gemini://h2903872.stratoserver.net/cgi-bin/figlet/Romulus
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Michael Mientus <michael.mientus (a) gmail.com>

> If anyone can assist with how to cross-compile the
> C# for other platforms, please let me know. This is an area I am still
> finding my way in.

I have no experience. But I would start by searching the Mono docs for 
clues.

=> 
https://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/application-portability/ 
    Application Portability | Mono

-- 
Mike

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Luke Emmet <luke (a) marmaladefoo.com>

Hi Frank

Thanks for the feedback.

On 20-May-2021 06:13, Frank J?des wrote:

> a very nice program and easy to install on Windows. I have been feared 
> in the past by our developers for discovering even the weirdest issues 
> in their programs? I have tested your program - on Windows - against my 
> server, so here's a list for you: ?
> 
>   * It does not display *all* characters, defined in Unicode version 13.
>     - That is very likely nothing you can fix before Micro$oft gets its
>     act together and fixes the issues with the terminal-window object!

Yes Windows Terminal is getting better, but it's not perfect yet. I 
found this checklist about getting the best display of unicode which 
helps a bit. Certainly you need to use the new Terminal, not just the 
default Windows shell.

https://akr.am/blog/posts/using-utf-8-in-the-windows-terminal

>   * If there are a lot of headers in the document, the /structure/
>     display overflows and only the top headers will be displayed:
>     gemini://h2903872.stratoserver.net/cgi-bin/man2gmi/-k%20str

Yes, that's a known limitation for now, although most Gemini pages have 
less than 10-20 headings which works fine. I might add a scrolling list 
for such situations, but my thinking for now is that generally having 
them directly in a menu makes for rapid interaction.

I think Romulus is the first console application to show the document 
structure, but I'm happy to be corrected if not.

>   * Something doesn't work right when you paste a Gemini-URL out of
>     another browser into the input-box of Romulus, it either reported
>     that i was unable to connect or crashed:

Yes, it expects a full URL, so if the "gemini://" scheme is missing it 
did not default to it.
This is now fixed in an upcoming commit.

>   * The time-out of five seconds prevents some of the CGI programs on my
>     server from being used with Romulus:
>     gemini://h2903872.stratoserver.net/cgi-bin/figlet/Romulus - will
>     sometimes work, when the big, fat Database on that machine isn't
>     allocating all resources to itself, but usually if fails with a
>     time-out. It would be nice to be able to configure the timeout.

Its a possible enhancement, certainly the underlying library 
SmolNetSharp allows this as a parameter on the request itself.

I've created some issues on the repo to cover the above items.

> That's it! - I'm trying to make it run in Linux and will test there.

Thanks - I'd be interested to hear how you get on

  - Luke

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