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*Curated* list of servers?

Stephane Bortzmeyer <stephane (a) sources.org>

The list of possible server software at
<gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/software/> does not provide any
details about their status, their features, their strengths and
weaknesses. Choosing software for a server is therefore a long and
tedious task.

Is there a better list somewhere? I think that, for Gemini deployment,
it would be better to have it, since newbies sysadmins may be
discouraged by the very differente states of maturity of programs in
the current list. After my (very incomplete) tests, I find that:


  server and want to serve with Gemini immediately

  be wrong when programming an Internet server in C. Otherwise, works
  OK. No commit in the last five months.

  has no trailing / unlike other servers. 

  for instance with CGI, it seems.

  commit in the last six months

  answers?

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acdw <acdw (a) acdw.net>

On 2020-12-02 (Wednesday) at 14:26, Stephane Bortzmeyer <stephane at sources.org> wrote:

> The list of possible server software at
> <gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/software/> does not provide any
> details about their status, their features, their strengths and
> weaknesses. Choosing software for a server is therefore a long and
> tedious task.
> 
> Is there a better list somewhere? I think that, for Gemini deployment,
> it would be better to have it, since newbies sysadmins may be
> discouraged by the very differente states of maturity of programs in
> the current list. After my (very incomplete) tests, I find that:
> 

There is https://github.com/kr1sp1n/awesome-gemini, which is one of those 
"Awesome" lists of curated software.  I don't know how "curated" it is 
though --- but it might be a good place to start for a PR/fork.

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Stephane Bortzmeyer <stephane (a) sources.org>

On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 03:10:27PM +0000,
 acdw <acdw at acdw.net> wrote 
 a message of 19 lines which said:

> There is https://github.com/kr1sp1n/awesome-gemini, which is one of
> those "Awesome" lists of curated software.  I don't know how
> "curated" it is though

It seems that the one-liners describing the programs are just taken
verbatim from the official descriptions of each program. Shavit, for
instance, is unusable for an Internet server since it binds to
localhost and this is hardwired in the source code but this important
restriction does not appear in the list.

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Timur Ismagilov <bouncepaw2 (a) yandex.ru>

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Lokesh Krishna <lokesh (a) low-key.me>


On 2 December 2020 9:56:39 pm IST, Stephane Bortzmeyer <stephane at sources.org> wrote:
>On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 03:10:27PM +0000,
> acdw <acdw at acdw.net> wrote 
> a message of 19 lines which said:
>
>> There is https://github.com/kr1sp1n/awesome-gemini, which is one of
>> those "Awesome" lists of curated software.  I don't know how
>> "curated" it is though
>
>It seems that the one-liners describing the programs are just taken
>verbatim from the official descriptions of each program. Shavit, for
>instance, is unusable for an Internet server since it binds to
>localhost and this is hardwired in the source code but this important
>restriction does not appear in the list.

>It seems that the one-liners describing the programs are just taken
>verbatim from the official descriptions of each program. 

Maybe open an issue discussing how this is an opportunity to present 
servers in a manner that makes picking them easier for end-users.  

The list as a whole is quite barebones but if somebody has a vision of 
what it could be then maybe it could be shaped up to be that?
? Lokesh Krishna

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acdw <acdw (a) acdw.net>

On 2020-12-02 (Wednesday) at 19:30, Lokesh Krishna <lokesh at low-key.me> wrote:

> 
> On 2 December 2020 9:56:39 pm IST, Stephane Bortzmeyer 
> <stephane at sources.org> wrote:
>
> >It seems that the one-liners describing the programs are just taken
> >verbatim from the official descriptions of each program. Shavit, for
> >instance, is unusable for an Internet server since it binds to
> >localhost and this is hardwired in the source code but this important
> >restriction does not appear in the list.
> 
> >It seems that the one-liners describing the programs are just taken
> >verbatim from the official descriptions of each program. 
> 
> Maybe open an issue discussing how this is an opportunity to present 
> servers in a manner that makes picking them easier for end-users.  
> 
> The list as a whole is quite barebones but if somebody has a vision of 
> what it could be then maybe it could be shaped up to be that?
> ? Lokesh Krishna
>

Right, I just linked to it as a resource I knew about, so you wouldn't 
have to start from scratch.  AFAIK nothing really comprehensive exists, just this list.

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Timur Ismagilov <bouncepaw2 (a) yandex.ru>

But it's a wiki and you can edit it, that's the point. Community curation is cool!

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RenΓ© Wagner <rwagner (a) rw-net.de>

>>> There is https://github.com/kr1sp1n/awesome-gemini, which is one of
>>> those "Awesome" lists of curated software.  I don't know how
>>> "curated" it is though
>>
>>It seems that the one-liners describing the programs are just taken
>>verbatim from the official descriptions of each program. Shavit, for
>>instance, is unusable for an Internet server since it binds to
>>localhost and this is hardwired in the source code but this important
>>restriction does not appear in the list.
> 
>>It seems that the one-liners describing the programs are just taken
>>verbatim from the official descriptions of each program. 
> 
> Maybe open an issue discussing how this is an opportunity to present servers in
> a manner that makes picking them easier for end-users.  

I'd like to second that:
jump in and start a discussion if this list could be developed into a "curated list". 
I think it's important to approach such a list as a community effort.

Things have to be tested and facts compiled to a comprehensive list, 
i don't see how this could work longterm if it's crafted by a single person only.

kind regards
Ren?

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Jordan <jordan (a) crowesnest.io>

On Thu Dec 3, 2020 at 3:36 AM EST, Timur Ismagilov wrote:
> But it's a wiki and you can edit it, that's the point. Community
> curation i=
> s cool!
>
If it's a wiki then that is awesome, and as you said able to be edited
by the community. Also, I noticed Jetforce was not mentioned as an
option. It's a pretty good and easy to setup server software.

Jordan

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