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GUS database (was: Re: Ambiguity in unordered list item definition)

Hannu Hartikainen <hannu.hartikainen+gemini (a) gmail.com>

Just a thought: it would be great if the GUS database was openly available
(for protocol development purposes, at least). With the current amount of
content you could just grep through everything to see if anybody is using
`*listitem` syntax (my guess: no).

Of course with this amount of content everybody could just crawl everything
themselves, but that can't be good etiquette.

On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 12:50, solderpunk <solderpunk at sdf.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 06:12:47PM +1000, Thomas Karpiniec wrote:
>
> > Oops, that's what I meant in the first place! Unfortunately I too was
> > ambiguous. I didn't realise in the subsequent discussion that I was
> > misunderstood.
> >
> > So to restate it clearly, what I was trying to propose was changing
> > bullets from a line starting with "*" to a line starting with "* ".
>
> Oh, great!
>
> Does anybody *not* like this idea?
>
> Cheers,
> Solderpunk
>

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Natalie Pendragon <natpen (a) natpen.net>

Hi Hannu,

On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 01:00:35PM +0300, Hannu Hartikainen wrote:
> Just a thought: it would be great if the GUS database was openly available
> (for protocol development purposes, at least). With the current amount of
> content you could just grep through everything to see if anybody is using
> `*listitem` syntax (my guess: no).

I'm not necessarily opposed to sharing GUS' index, and will think
through it more. I do have a few concerns that come to mind
immediately though, about which I'm curious what people think.


  the current state of Gemini, everything created in Geminispace has a
  fairly high degree of anonymity through obscurity without even
  trying. If I release the index to the world, then it's easy for
  people to do things like search it for email addresses. Or use it to
  create a Gemini archive. People have expressed concern about that in
  the past, because it doesn't give users the agency to take down
  their own content - and now, by whitelisting GUS in their
  robots.txt, they're also implicitly whitelisting those use-cases.


  GUS itself, then we could probably all answer the great majority of
  these questions, on demand, without having to download anything, or
  learn the schema, or figure out how to grep it (it's not a standard
  "database" so figuring out how to grep it is actually non-trivial).
  Adding regex support feels pretty compelling to me, because GUS *is*
  essentially an open index

In the meantime, please do feel free to email me and chat about any
index questions you're having trouble answering. In the case of the
unordered list discussion, I just wrote some regex to collect relevant
numbers, and will post them to the other thread!

Yours faithfully,
Natalie

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