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👽 sirwilburthefirst

Has there ever been a discussion surrounding a file format for books that works with Gemini? Like epub but containing gemtext is my idea. If no one has ever brought this up I might write a post on the idea.

6 months ago

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👽 angryboyd

@sirwilburtthefirst I think the goal of gemini as an archival tool is noble, but allow me to explain. For all the losses that occur when a work is translated or made digital, it ultimately becomes accessible to more people as a result of that process, and in most cases great pains are taken to ensure minimal loss in this process. Gemini is both a niche protocol and a minimalist one by intent, I don't think It's cut out for this purpose, though others obviously disagree. · 6 months ago

👽 acidus

@sirwilburtthefirst Agreed on spliting it. Usually when I''m converting largest works for gemtext, I end up breaking them into different files for ease of reading. · 6 months ago

👽 sirwilburthefirst

It's important for archival reasons. Those examples are all single files. I could never read any of those in one sitting. So I need a way to keep my place. You could jot down what chapter you're on on a piece of paper but that's not very convienent. So I'd rather have them broken down by chapter (or maybe more). So having a format makes that easier to do. · 6 months ago

👽 smokey

Just for reference, heres some examples of regular books in regular gemtext form. Im not sure gempub is really necssary if you just want to read through a gemini browser

Frankenstein: gemini://tilde.team/~drwasabi/frank11a.gmi

Sir gibbie gemini://jdcard.com/SirGibbie.gmi

The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster: gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/extras/fsm-gospel-text-full.gmi · 6 months ago

👽 sirwilburthefirst

Do you mean gemtext to gempub? I'm not interested in epub personally. I am interested in producing gemtext books though, for viewing in gemini browsers. · 6 months ago

👽 smokey

No problem :) I have a gemtext to epub script if you're interested in that · 6 months ago

👽 sirwilburthefirst

@angryboyd Books are translated between formats all of the time. Should we not make classic literature available digitally just because they were not formatted that way in their original text? · 6 months ago

👽 sirwilburthefirst

Thank you @smokey! This is exactly what I was looking for. · 6 months ago

👽 smokey

gemini://gemini.quietplace.xyz/~razzlom/strangerlog/2021-04-25-ST010.gmi

https://codeberg.org/oppenlab/gempub · 6 months ago

👽 angryboyd

i'll be honest, i don't think this is a good idea, in the practical sense. most books contain formatting which A) carries intent and meaning and should not be removed or altered, and B) is not compatible with gemtext, or the minimalist aims of gemtext.

i am an author who publishes directly in gemtext and i do so knowing the formatting limitations of my medium. i believe any book published in gemtext should be done so with this knowledge. otherwise, download links to epubs and pdfs serve me, and many others, just fine. · 6 months ago