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Patrick Delaney pthomasdelaney at gmail.com
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Hear hear. I understand the temptation to continually add capabilities but it should be resisted. If feature parity with http was the goal there would be no real reason for Gemini. It's constraints are it's allure. From what I understand there are other gemini-adjacent protocols that would fill the gaps in capabilities some people want and are in need of contributions. Speaking for myself, I was drawn to the protocol after seeing the quality of content that people were putting into their capsules, working under the assumption that content was king in gemini-space. I would hate to see that undermined (albeit not maliciously or intentionally).
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1. Re: [discussion] Interesting uses (Devin Prater)
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 08:20:05 -0500
From: Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater at gmail.com>
To: Nathan Galt <mailinglists at ngalt.com>
Cc: Gemini application layer protocol <gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu>
Subject: Re: [discussion] Interesting uses
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I mean, I thought the whole idea of Gemini was to do content delivery, in
simplicity, as well as possible. There's not much one can do with it kinda
by design. The same should have been true with the web, but then people
were like "oh hey we have this thing already, why not use it for showing
email?" And on and on it goes. And now we have a content delivery system
meant for documents hyperlinked together used for applications. For
accessibility, that sucks because our program that were designed for
reading virtual documents, with links, headings, all that, now have to
handle applications using the same tech as documents, with features
hurriedly added into both screen readers and browser tech and Elektron, to
make it work slightly well. So I vote for just using Gemini as Gemini;
small static sites linked together, with little games and a search engine
or two to link things together. Sure something cool could be made, but
that's on the backend, not the frontend, please.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.prater at gmail.com
gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 7:37 PM Nathan Galt <mailinglists at ngalt.com> wrote:
On Sep 19, 2021, at 1:46 PM, Andrew Singleton <singletona082 at gmail.com>
wrote:
So other than a 'small web' or possibly as e-book delivery, have there
been any interesting use cases?
There?s probably something in the question that I?m not understanding, but
since everything on/in Gemini is either on the Small Web or is an e-book,
what else _could_ there be? Small Company Intranets?
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 21:13:09 +0200
From: "ew.gemini" <ew.gemini at nassur.net>
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Subject: Re: [discussion] Interesting uses
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Hello,
Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater at gmail.com> writes:
I mean, I thought the whole idea of Gemini was to do content
delivery, in simplicity, as well as possible.
...
So I vote for just using Gemini
as Gemini; small static sites linked together, with little
games and a search engine or two to link things together. Sure
something cool could be made, but that's on the backend, not
the frontend, please.
I agree, and for the backend thing, solderpunk has described it well:
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gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/solderpunk/gemlog/a-vision-for-gemini-applications.gmi
Devin Prater
r.d.t.prater at gmail.com
gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 7:37 PM Nathan Galt <mailinglists at ngalt.com> wrote:
On Sep 19, 2021, at 1:46 PM, Andrew Singleton <singletona082 at gmail.com> wrote:
So other than a 'small web' or possibly as e-book delivery, have there been any interesting use cases?
There?s probably something in the question that I?m not understanding, but since everything on/in Gemini is
either on the Small Web or is an e-book, what else _could_ there be? Small Company Intranets?
Cheers,
~ew