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Omar Polo op at omarpolo.com
Tue Apr 13 18:07:58 BST 2021
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Frank Jüdes <Frank.Juedes at linux4specialists.com> writes:
Hi Omar,
For GLV-1.12556 i would have to install lua, a language with which i
am not comfortable at all. Also my Linux Distro doesn't include the
LibreSSL… yes i know you can always configure, make and make install,
but just want to install a gemini-server and not make a phd.
I can sympathise with this. I haven't really even tried to runGLV-1.12556 because of the steps needed to run it! I have only talkedwith Sean some time ago, he pointed out some issues with the CGIimplementation in gmid, and so I took a look at how GLV implements them.
GMID i actually had considered because it is written C meaning it is
/fast/! But i wasn't sure about the CGI capabilities, like which
environment variables are available for CGI programs. If you can help
me out here i will definitely consider gmid for both the production
and my development box and gladly provide you with feedback.
gmid at the moment shares the same problem of GLV-1.12556: it hasLibreSSL as dependency (which I don't regret by the way, it has such aclean API it's almost a joy to use: compare the code in server.c to theOpenSSL-specific bits in utils.c!)
[ I've started to develop a library to write Gemini clients and server that, among other things, has an abstraction over the specific TLS library: this helps for testing and should help with portability across different systems I hope. ]
The details of the CGI variable available are documented in the manpage,under the CGI section, but there is also a test page I'm serving at:
gemini://gemini.omarpolo.com/cgi/env/
I should probably link it in the README. Note: that demo page it'slacking TLS_VERSION, TLS_CIPHER and TLS_CIPHER_STRENGTH that I committedearly this morning.
There is also a similar page for GLV-1.12556:
gemini://gemini.conman.org/cgi
[ actually, my page is inspired from the GLV-1.12556 one, not the other way around of course! ]
As for the name GGI: For writing CGI programs /perl/ has been my
favorite language since eons - no discussions about
programming-languages necessary, you cannot master them all and over
the years you develop your favorites - so in perl there is the
"gold-standard" package for CGI programs with the name /CGI.pm/
therefore i could not use the same name for my package. So i named it
/GGI.pm/ no evil intend, no re-inventing the wheel, sheer necessity
for a good and short name.
I think I misunderstood your last mail then, apologies.
Anyway, talking about timing, earlier I was re-writing my `man' CGIscript from rc to Perl! (I'm not familiar at all with the language, butI'm slowly learning.) If/when your module will be ready, I would liketo play with it. I have a couple of CGI scripts written in differentlanguages, and I'm slowly re-writing the ones in shell/rc to perl.
On 2021-04-13 11:18, Omar Polo wrote:
Frank Jüdes <Frank.Juedes at linux4specialists.com> writes:
Hi Stephane,
Thank you very much for the update. That leaves me with three options now:
1. Try again to install Pythron 3.7+ on my stubborn development machine
(Oracle Lunix 7…)
2. Learn go really quickly and fork the Molly Brown server - i will
call it »the sunken Molly Brown server« in that case
3. Write my own gemini server from scratch in perl
It really looks like only Molly Brown and JetForce have a usable
CGI-implementation. We should call it GGI, btw: Gemini Gateway
Interface to distinguish it from CGI.
They're definitely not the only one: GLV-1.12556 and gmid (disclaimer:
I'm the author) have a complete CGI support. GLV-1.12556 has even more
things, such as SGCI support; and you may want to count vger in that
list too, even it's a little limited in this regard.
Also, why reinvent the wheel and find another name when the CGI
specification, modulo one or two environment variables (REQUEST_METHOD -
and is debatable), maps well to Gemini?
Best regards from Charleston (WV),
Frank/2
On 2021-04-13 03:09, Alexis wrote:
Stephane Bortzmeyer <stephane at sources.org> writes:
I did not find a public issue tracker for MollyBrown, and the one patch
I sent to the author went unanswered.
i.e. one you don't have to register for? Because otherwise:
https://tildegit.org/solderpunk/molly-brown/issues
Still, yeah, Solderpunk isn't around much nowadays; i sent a patch
for the telem BBS in September last year, and i believe it's not yet
applied ....
(i also submitted a couple of patches for Elpher seven months ago,
adding link numbering, but Elpher's maintainer doesn't seem to be
active either.)
Alexis.