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Re: "Which search service do you recommend in Gemini space?"
The library is library.inu.red. There are other domains dominating the results too.
I can’t imagine a good way to change search behaviour myself so unfortunately I don’t have a constructive suggestion. One idea I had was that any domain could have a limit of how many times it’s represented in search results, with a link after the last occurrence titled “more results from this capsule”.
2023-09-01 · 7 days ago
I don't really use search; just bookmarks, link lists and aggregators.
Have you given Kennedy (by @Acidus) a try? I've found it to be quite sophisticated.
Check out the features here:
— kennedy.gemi.dev/docs/features.gmi
I maintain library.inu.red; I'll update its robots.txt to discourage indexing full documents and ask the owner of geminispace.info to purge and re-index that host.
I never really use search features on here so I didn't realize how overrepresented it is, but I see what you mean.
@Addison, I didn’t mean to single you out. It’s just that I’m on mobile and I haven’t figured out how to save a draft yet. I couldn’t check other tabs on my Gemini client to copy the other URLs.
There is great content on your library. I’m not sure if de-indexing is right!
Geminispace.info, while it was a breakthrough for Gemini for being the first search engine, and I want to give it respect for that.... it just isn't a good search engine, imho. Try TLGS, Kennedy, or that newer search engine. They should be listed in the official Gemini's project capsule, section 2 of the FAQ.
I had my own search engine, but it's down right now. I want to bring it back up soon, so that I can make the search engine that I think is best. But that won't be for a while, unfortunately. Otherwise, TLGS and Kennedy are actually pretty good, iirc.
@Addison Imho, the problem is not with your capsule but with geminispace.info. De-indexing would technically help, but it kinda defeats the purpose of searching to begin with. We really should just be moving over to better search engines.
@IO Thank you for saying so; and I don't feel singled-out, so no harm done. I don't often use search engines on gemini so this wasn't something that had crossed my mind.
In my opinion it's for the best that the gemtext documents themselves are not indexed. The Topics and Authors listings will still be indexed, so folks who want to search for a particular subject will be able to find what they need with less background noise. As a reader I would rather get sent straight to '/topic/Abc' rather than have to sift through the 200 articles that happen to mention the term I entered.
@skyjake @Acidus Kennedy is very impressive, I'm bookmarking this. Thank you for the recommendation.
Kennedy has by far the most features and therefore is able to provide the best search results. If the number of results are too many, filters can realiably weed out unwanted results.
Other search engines have only a subset of the features of Kennedy and don't lead to the same reliable results.
The only problem with Kennedy is that it crawls only manually and the last crawl has been on 2023-07-23.
I created a page with meta information about different search engines and crawlers, which are not always available on the respective search engine's pages:
— Meta Information About Geminispace Crawlers
2023-09-02 · 6 days ago
@michaelnordmeyer Thanks for the link.
1 hour ago
Which search service do you recommend in Gemini space? — I’m currently using [gemini link] as my default in Lagrange. At the moment - and this could just be the nature of the contents of Gemini space currently - I get a lot of results for a library flooding my results. The results contain the terms I searched for, but that domain won’t have what I want. What are the alternatives and is there much difference anyway? Please let me know your preference.