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👽 haze

Seems the Gemini Mailing List is down :(

I was trying to see waht's new. Then sudenly saw a 404.That sounds bad.. Most spec and core discussions happen on there. This can't be a good thing for the Geminispace

2 years ago · 👍 smokey

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👽 skyjake

Most spec and core discussions happen on there.

I would say these discussions mostly moved to GitLab already. With the mailing list defunct, GitLab will certainly now be the primary forum.

Gemlogs + Antenna are not a bad solution for the time being either. · 2 years ago

👽 smokey

One more comment to cover my own ass, not everyone in the mailing list was a whiner. Many people contributed to positive and productive discussion while being respectful to everyone. A lot of Station users are also regulars on the mailing list from what I recall, so don't want to make it seem like im trying to step on particular toes. If you were part of the mailing list, you probably understand what im talking about. A few bad apples spoil the bunch and all that. · 2 years ago

👽 smokey

reasonable assuption would be that the mailing list was axed to send a message to the ultra-nerds: The specifications are finalized. Gemini is more or less complete from an internal mechanics perspective. No more bitching about things which 99.9% of regular users dont care about. No more passive-agressively harassing poor solderpunk and the other maintainers with a billion different competing ideas for over a year. Its time to suck it up and move on. Now gemini is up to us, the real content makers and regular users, to take it from here and push the limits of whats possible within the finished specs constraints. I could be wrong, but this is what I got out of it. · · 2 years ago

👽 smokey

I was a part of the mailing list for a time, and would like to share my own little conspiracy theory. It was intentionally shut down. IMO, the mailing list was by far the most toxic part of gemini. A large part of it was the vocal minority ultra-tech nerds excessively nitpicking the specifications in a very whiny and somewhat entitled way, constantly trying to 'suggest' their own changes/additions. And when they werent doing that, trying to change *where* things were hosted. Which lead to the main maintainer stepping down from the project which required Solderpunk to step back in. Thats about when I left the mailing list, so I dont know what happened after, however a (cont) · 2 years ago

👽 lykso

Sounds as though the hard drive failed unexpectedly and he didn't have any plans in place to quickly recover from such an event. 🙁 · 2 years ago

👽 clair_de_soleil

It seems if you go to the home site (http://orbitalfox.eu), it says "The hard-drive is unwell, perhaps permenantly so. All services are gone. Some will come back in time". Kind of confusing, but I guess he's saying he's not going to host stuff like mailing lists anymore, at least for now. Strange he didn't give any warning before hand though. · 2 years ago