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What I like and dislike about Gemini
This is about the protocol and text format, not the community or content.
What Iāve come to like and dislike about Gemini after two years isnāt necessarily what I thought Iād like. Some have stayed the same, some have changed.
I like it enough that I read the Gemini version of sites that are bihosting.
Like
- I love that all styling is client side. No font-size, no bad color taste.
- I love that all code / scripting is server side. No JavaScript, no creepy stuff.
- Iāve come to like that links are on their own lines.
- TLS only. Main reason why Iām not on Gopher or Spartan or Mercury.
Neutral
- No inline formatting. I hated this at first but quickly came to see the many advantages. No erroneously unclosed tags, and a calm, uninterrupted reading experience. Emotionally, Iāve pretty much come to see it as a ālikeā, but Iād better leave it in āneutralā since I might be unconsciously sour-grapeāing it (adapting to a limitation, Stockholm syndrome style).
Dislike
- That itās an entirely different protocol still doesnāt feel like a solution to āthe web is too complexā problem. Adding Gemini support to my homepage felt pretty much the same as adding Atom support to it. A few days of homework and hacking that I now āhadā to do. The site became more complex, not less. Improved, sureāIām glad people are reading over Atom and over Geminiābut not simpler. Added to, not stripped down.
- Protocol limitations such as downloading large files or streaming.
- Peopleās workarounds like number links[1] and *asterisks*. Every time I see āem Iām like āMaybe Gemini does need inline formatting or inline links after all since these workarounds are the worst of both worldsā. That might be a sign of an issue with the format.
- Lack of tables for data. I used to love using tables before I went on here. Theyāre great for RPG stuff.
- Backtick fencing for pre lines. Not only would I prefer the four spaces syntax from original Markdown for readability, wouldnāt that also be easier to parse? You wouldnāt need to keep track of as much state.==
I think overall my feelings arenāt super healthy. Itās likeā¦ Gemini gave me a taste of control of how the text I read should look, and every time something scrapes up against those limits, it bugs me. The parts of me that like Gemini are the control freak parts, and those parts are bristling at what they canāt control.
Jeff adds:
But this is not the protocol for sending real files. Iād use ftp or http or torrents. Something Gemini allows you to do.
If this means that Gemini allows you to have links to ftp or web servers, or to torrent files, then yeah. Not that Iāve seen that happen a lot on here. I think overall I just wish we had been able to figure out a ātools, not standardsā approach instead. Although a tool that gives us all the benefits of Gemini might not have been possible in a secure way. A subset of web tech is not enough; weād also need a way to sieve out non-compliant sites.
Tools vs standards