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2008-02-01 10:01:00
>>So if we can prosecute swedish people for crimes that aren't crimes in their
country can we also give speeding tickets to drivers on the autobahn that drive
over 55 mph?
Apparently the government thinks so. The US government recently had a Canadian
arrested on Canadian soil for selling marijuana seeds on the internet
(something that's not illegal in Canada). At no time did this person set foot
on American soil, nor did he ever break Canadian law. Everything he did was
above board right down to declaring exactly what he did on his Canadian tax
return and paying taxes on the income. All profits were even donated to
charity.
Yet the US government felt that they had the right to arrest him. More info
here: http://canadianpress.google.com/article/
ALeqM5h9Y7CVPeypqV77yWBmI45x_mP9SA [google.com].
Posted: 2008084@588.61
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stranger
>>>>> I think the problem in that particular case is that the Canadian in
question supplied marijuana to people living under USA jurisdiction. If orders
from people living in the USA had not been accepted, and deliveries not made to
locations under USA jurisdiction, then yes, you can complain about
extra-territoriality
He broke no Canadian laws - it's the Americans that broke the law by buying. He
never advertised in the US, nor did he ever solicit their business. If you sold
something on ebay that was legal in the US, but broke the laws of the country
of the person who bought it, would you accept extradition to that country to
rot in their jails?
>>>>> As it is, the USA have applied to extradite the Canadian, and Canada
have not demurred, and the request is not being fought by the extraditee.
Thats not the whole story. He's only not fighting extridition because they were
threatening to sue/arrest his coworkers and friends - one who has a medical
condition and would have likely died in a US prison. He nor his friends have
any money to fight these constant lawsuits that the US government has been
firing at him for the last 20 years.
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stranger
With that argument, you must necessarily believe that anyone who posts on the
Internet is bound by the speech restrictions of every country that has citizens
with Internet access. Better not post anything unpleasant about China; that's
illegal there, and by allowing your data to be sent there, you are breaking
their law and should be charged.
Unless he crossed into the United States to mail his items, United States
criminal system should have *NO* jurisdiction. To hold otherwise is to open
extraterritoriality floodgates; I'm sure you wouldn't be comfortable with the
results.