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From: keithk@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban Subject: Legal Loopholes Examples (long) Date: 13 Feb 94 15:26:30 -0500 In article <14.19259.842.0NAC57A8@select.infi.net>, ed.hackett@select.infi.net (Ed Hackett) writes: [...] > The po-lice had arrested a serial murderer. Caught him red handed so to speak. > He was released by a commielib, bleeding heart judge on a "technicality," seems > his "rights" were violated during the arrest. > > It occurred to me that this kind of thing has become an UL. Everyone's heard of > cases like this one. > > Is there any basis in fact for these UL's? The "technicality" in question usually turns out to be some really obscure point of law like the Fifth Amendment. Some of those commie-symp judges expect a red-blooded patriotic street cop, risking their life everyday to keep scum off the streets so decent folk can sit at home and read their Bibles in peace not to mention the low pay and the abuse they have to take from long-hairs and draft dodgers some of those punks look like they haven't bathed in weeks you can't tell the boys from the girls they all take drugs and do other things I can't even mention call it "Free Love" my god love used to be a beautiful thing between a man and a woman and god and their minister and their country club now they're even talkin' 'bout stuff like from Sodom and Gomorrah makes me sick what are we coming to, to remember things like the Constitution. Cases do get thrown out on procedural matters, but not as a kind of reward for "violation of your rights". Improperly obtained confessions, evidence seized in violation of that pesky old Amendment against unlawful searches and seizures, unjustified arrests, etc (etc, etc! ...) can result in the evidence in question being thrown out, which makes it harder to get a conviction or may result in charges being withdrawn. A case may get thrown out entirely if the only judtification for the charges themselves was illegaly acquired. But just demonstrating that a violation occurred is not a "Get Out of Jail" card. Many examples exist; I give a few below to illustrate where these so-called "technicalities" come from. *Note that this discussion turns entirely on US law; I include it in the presumption that our non-US friends are eternally fascinated with us and our legal system.* The most famous rulings are from cases overturned on appeal, which have set precedents establishing proper procedure. _Miranda v. Arizona_, 1966 (I will not give full legal citations - those with the expertise will know how to look them up) involved a man identified by the victim of a violent crime, who was interrogated, reportedly without coercion and also without information as to his Constitutional rights (the defendant had relatively little education); he gave a detailed confession and was almost undoubtedly guilty, and was convicted. The Supreme Court ruled that the conviction was improper because it rested on a confession obtained from a suspect who could not exercise his Constitutional privilege against self-incrimination, because he did not know about it. Police now must "read [the suspect] their rights" - "You have the right to remain silent ... anything you say will be repeated on television by Jack Webb ..." - the famous "Miranda warning". Today, any confession from a suspect who had not been "Mirandized" (yeah - they use that word) will be disallowed in court unless it was either an "excited utterance" or a "deathbed confession". This does not mean that the trial cannot proceed, but it means that the court presumes a defendant (even a well-educated one who has seen Dragnet) who has not been informed of their rights will have been unfairly taken advantage of. _Brewer v. Williams_, 1976, involved a man who kidnapped and killed a child. He contacted lawyer and was advised not to talk to the police without the lawyer present; he also stated that he would not talk until he had seen his lawyer. His lawyer told police that the defendant would not talk until he had conferred with his new lawyer in the town to which he was being taken for trial; the lawyer was refused permission to ride along with the defendant during the trip. On the ride over, one of the police officers gave the defendant "the Christian burial speech", saying the child's family was very sad that the child's body had not been recovered and how nice it would be if someone would tell them where to find it so they could give it a Christian burial. The deeply religious defendant took leave of his senses and told them where the body was, sealing his own fate in the process. The Supreme Court held that the discussion in the car amounted to manipulation, in that the police knew that the defendant was religious and also had a history of psychiatric illness, and they deliberately worked on him when they had him isolated between his lawyer in the first city and the lawyer waiting for him in the second. His being deprived of advice at that time put him at a disadvantage, and the interrogation was a violation of his right not to incriminate himself. The point here is that he did not *waive* his right not to talk - talking by itself is not evidence that he had made a considered decision to give up his right; if he had said "I've thought about it and decided I don't need a lawyer and now want to talk to you without one ..." it would have been OK, but in the absence of a positive decision to waive the rights to counsel or to silence, unadvised confessions are assumed to be made in ignorance or under manipulation. However, a very similar case(_Rhode Island v Innis_) was upheld. Here police officers expressed concern over the possibility that a gun used in a murder would be found by a child who might hurt themselves; the defendant overheard and told them where to find the gun, after being Mirandized three times before the conversation and once afterwards. The Court held that this was not an "interrogation" and hence did not violate the right to have counsel present; it is apparent that if the Justices thought that the conversation was in fact an interrogation they would have ruled differently. The difference between _Brewer_ and _Innis_ seems to be that in the former the speech was directed