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Would Bubble benefit from a private message function? I am kind of torn about that, the more pages get pm function, the more confusing it gets
2023-05-16 · 8 days ago · 👍 Addison
@cquenelle misfin is extremely simple and it borrows some elements from Gemini by using clients certs. I wrote a Misfin server based on my own Gemini server in maybe 1 hour (though it had a few bugs) that could log the messages received
@skyjake I saw the info about misfin, but I got lost trying to read the spec. Misfin is what got me thinking about different alternatives to using email. Then the question about DMs sent me off into la-la land.
@alexlehm The reason I don't use DMs today is because signing up for and connecting to www sites requires registering with an email and managing a password. So it's more work that just using email for the message. Because of the way certificates work, it's actually less work to check gemini DMs than to open up gmail or whatever. If I can subscribe to my DM page on a gemini social site using the conventional subscription format, then my client already has all the support I need to see if I have unread DMs at my favorite sites. I'm still feeling like "Who needs email anyway?" (I know I need it for commercial use, I'm talking about social person-to-person use)
2023-05-19 · 5 days ago
@cquenelle I think you can do that by just creating a url for each recipient like yourhostname/username.gmi and give the url to the receiver for them to bookmark, like I could create gemini.lehmann.cx/cquenelle.gmi and put each message into that. that would not be private, for that it would need some form of encryption or use non-predictable urls.
Misfin is still a receving server so it would be prone to spam if that ever gets popular, the problem with a message standard that polls message urls i think is mostly that it would not scale at all. I have used a mail service in Freenet a while ago that essentially transfers messages via random urls in the network and polls for new messages occasionally and that would become slower and slow when the number of sender/recipient pairs increases
@cquenelle Sounds like you'd like this: 🙂
I think Bubble is fine without DMs, but it made me think. What if there was a standard Gemini url for a simple DM module. I could teach my client to subscribe to DM pages that I wanted to check and I could ignore other ones. I’m really fascinated by the idea of communicating directly with people, but not having an email address. It’s like we agree that I’ll just leave you little notes on a scrap of paper under the flower pot on your front porch. And you’ll get them whenever you remember to check the flower pot. Hmmmm… No spam, no junk mail, I can decide to visit my inboxes at whatever frequency I want to. There is a certain fluidity and curatorial aspect that really appeals.
2023-05-18 · 6 days ago
fedi is probably a good fit for gemini, i will use that
At the moment I'm leaning toward not having private messages. As the best on-site alternative, one could try posting on their u/ page, using an @ mention, and flagging the post as omitted from Gemini feed.
I suppose I could add a per-post "omit from All Posts" flag...
Email/fedi/etc. should be sufficient for private discussions. I recommend including contact information in your profile description and/or providing it via the featured link, if one wishes to be reachable privately.
For now I will just use email for users where I know their address