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[2023-03-20T03:25:27Z] <Ellowee[m]> <midfavila> "what the hell man, 30-40 years..." <- ((They)) want you to have 10 years of experience before 20, 20 before 25 [2023-03-20T04:07:10Z] <testuser[m]123> Hi [2023-03-20T04:53:39Z] <Ellowee[m]> ih [2023-03-20T05:33:21Z] <sad_plan> hi [2023-03-20T05:58:26Z] * testuser[m]123 uploaded an image: (75KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/envs.net/da351f9485ed1158bc092c4890fd9df55f648cbe/Screenshot_20230320-112429_Fennec.png > [2023-03-20T05:58:29Z] <testuser[m]123> Literally 1984 [2023-03-20T05:58:37Z] <testuser[m]123> Mobile internet shutdown since 3 days [2023-03-20T06:02:38Z] <sewn> bleh [2023-03-20T08:27:55Z] <midfavila> Ellowee[m]: it honestly fuckin seems that way sometimes [2023-03-20T08:54:41Z] <midfavila> https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/877683 [2023-03-20T09:05:18Z] <sewn> https://invidious.lunar.icu/watch?v=DX8NZU_Kn-U [2023-03-20T09:08:44Z] <midfavila> kids these days, what with their devil-music [2023-03-20T09:08:49Z] <midfavila> and their devil-games [2023-03-20T09:09:06Z] <midfavila> like that there dungeons and dragons. don't think i don't know what you're up to sewn [2023-03-20T09:09:43Z] <midfavila> https://invidious.lunar.icu/channel/UCEVndLRqBDNcZhBdWo5oepg [2023-03-20T09:09:50Z] <midfavila> you should check this guy out. probably up your alley. [2023-03-20T09:12:30Z] <sewn> I used to listen to him years ago mid [2023-03-20T09:12:41Z] <midfavila> fair enough :p [2023-03-20T09:13:11Z] <sewn> midfavila: also kids these days mostly listen to like [2023-03-20T09:13:20Z] <midfavila> DEVIL MUSIC [2023-03-20T09:13:20Z] <sewn> glitchcore or whatever bullshit its callrd [2023-03-20T09:13:25Z] <sewn> no not devil music [2023-03-20T09:13:44Z] * midfavila prepares to stone sewn [2023-03-20T09:13:53Z] <sewn> I listen to devil music not them [2023-03-20T09:14:13Z] <midfavila> all nu-zoom-zooms are equally deserving of death by stoning smdh [2023-03-20T09:17:35Z] <midfavila> i tell ya, back in my day if you wanted to be cool and hip, it was as easy as listening to haircuts for men [2023-03-20T09:31:58Z] <sewn> very cool [2023-03-20T10:48:39Z] <midfavila> you know what - goal this week: get a simple X11 image viewer out the door with support for the X11 image formats, JPEG, PNG, and (maybe) BMP and GIF based on Xaw with Edward Falk's extensions [2023-03-20T10:49:23Z] <midfavila> been way too focused on XIrc and the amount of shit I'd need to learn to get *that* out [2023-03-20T10:51:43Z] <sewn> use XImaging and don't reinvent the wheel plz [2023-03-20T10:51:45Z] <sewn> unless its so fat [2023-03-20T10:53:47Z] <midfavila> i'll reinvent the wheel if i so choose to [2023-03-20T10:54:47Z] <midfavila> and anyway, while Motif is better than GTK, Xaw is better than Motif [2023-03-20T10:54:55Z] <midfavila> in terms of relative simplicity [2023-03-20T11:22:54Z] <sewn> why dont you look into plan9's stuff [2023-03-20T13:11:30Z] <rohan> hi guys [2023-03-20T13:11:44Z] <rohan> mpv just works with ytdlp with luajit? [2023-03-20T13:11:50Z] <rohan> or i can use lua too [2023-03-20T13:25:21Z] <sewn> <rohan> "mpv just works with ytdlp with..." <- use luajit [2023-03-20T13:25:40Z] <sewn> lua won't work with mpv cuz its too new [2023-03-20T15:08:46Z] <Ellowee[m]> <testuser[m]123> "Mobile internet shutdown since 3..." <- Use briar and manyverse [2023-03-20T15:09:09Z] <Ellowee[m]> They can only use EMPs to disrupt mesh networking [2023-03-20T17:02:03Z] <midfavila> sewn, i have, and unfortunately plan 9 isn't a viable choice of operating system for me just yet [2023-03-20T17:02:37Z] <midfavila> otherwise i would probably be messaging you from plan 9 rn [2023-03-20T17:03:14Z] <midfavila> also man i think software testing is a good place for me to be [2023-03-20T17:03:33Z] <midfavila> there's plenty of decent-paying entry level remote work there and i'm sure it wouldn't be hard to move laterally into development [2023-03-20T17:07:14Z] <midfavila> a lot of the listings i'm seeing in canada also seem to have *actually reasonable* requirements for entry level stuff [2023-03-20T17:08:43Z] <sewn> what about uxn [2023-03-20T17:09:17Z] <sewn> nvm [2023-03-20T17:09:30Z] <sewn> btw you should have a look at xmessage or creating something similar you could use in shells cripts [2023-03-20T17:09:39Z] <midfavila> i use xmessage regularly [2023-03-20T17:09:43Z] <sewn> nice [2023-03-20T17:09:44Z] <midfavila> i'll be replacing it soon:tm: [2023-03-20T17:09:55Z] <sewn> let me guess, with your own? [2023-03-20T17:10:00Z] <midfavila> correct. [2023-03-20T17:10:17Z] <midfavila> have you *looked* at the codebases for the standard X11 desk toys? they're awful [2023-03-20T17:10:22Z] <sewn> nope [2023-03-20T17:10:44Z] <midfavila> there are also some glaring defects in a few of them, for example xload [2023-03-20T17:10:56Z] <midfavila> why limit it to CPU usage? why not let it read from a FIFO or stdin? [2023-03-20T17:10:58Z] <sewn> xmessage is pretty small in loc tho [2023-03-20T17:11:17Z] <sewn> midfavila: maybe cuz its meant for showing load of system not status of fifo or stdin [2023-03-20T17:11:17Z] <midfavila> lines of code isn't the only measure of complexity or quality or what have you [2023-03-20T17:11:53Z] <midfavila> my point is that it's choosing to solve a hyperspecialized instance of a very general task when solving the generalized version of that task would be as easy or easier [2023-03-20T17:12:48Z] <sewn> okey [2023-03-20T17:13:44Z] <midfavila> as for uxn and stuff i'm not interested in using linux as a bootloader /shrug [2023-03-20T17:38:21Z] <sewn> [what did he mean by this] [2023-03-20T21:03:10Z] <midfavila> i really oughta fork Xaw at some point [2023-03-20T21:03:40Z] <midfavila> there are so many disparate versions of it that all have really cool features, but individually have crippling defects [2023-03-20T21:05:33Z] <midfavila> XawPlus for example has somewhat modern aesthetics, the ability to handle Unicode text, and use XPMs to theme UI elements, but it's otherwise an utterly broken mess. neXtaw is reasonable efficient and has okay aesthetics, but it's kind of limited in theming capability and it's not much of an improvement over Xaw3d. Xaw3d is actively maintained, but has compatibility issues with Xaw. Xaw is incredibly [2023-03-20T21:05:33Z] <midfavila> . and so on and so forth with 3dTTF, 3dXPM, etc