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From: 2frjbits@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Preston Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: System 6 Icons question
Message-ID: <1992Mar30.150840.38899@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
Date: 30 Mar 92 21:08:40 GMT
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Is there anyway to change a data-files Icon once it's been mapped to an
application?  I mean the picture, not the other stuff which I figured out. I
edited my old Icons to make related icons visually related, but the old file
icons stayed the same (visually).  I'll keep trying and digging through what
docs I have (hope this isn't something really stupid I'm doing wrong).

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From: 2frjbits@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Preston Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 Icons question
Message-ID: <1992Mar30.152620.38903@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
Date: 30 Mar 92 21:26:19 GMT
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In article <1992Mar30.150840.38899@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, 2frjbits@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Preston Park) writes:
> Is there anyway to change a data-files Icon once it's been mapped to an
> application?  I mean the picture, not the other stuff which I figured out. I

Never mind, I figured it out!  Way cool Andy & Dave!  Just delete the FTypes
files, and then, rather than crashing when you reboot, it puts you in that
mini-launcher and tells you what it needs to run the finder.  Use FileMgr
to copy the original FTypes file from the System.Disk, and launch the finder.
Wow, intelligent engineering at Apple.  Never thought I'd see any of that
that System 7 thing : )
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From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 Icons question
Message-ID: <64551@apple.Apple.COM>
Date: 31 Mar 92 06:43:43 GMT
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In article <1992Mar30.152620.38903@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 2frjbits@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Preston Park) writes:
>> Is there anyway to change a data-files Icon once it's been mapped to an
>> application?  I mean the picture, not the other stuff which I figured out. I

>Never mind, I figured it out!  Way cool Andy & Dave!  Just delete the FTypes
>files, and then, rather than crashing when you reboot, it puts you in that
>mini-launcher and tells you what it needs to run the finder.  Use FileMgr
>to copy the original FTypes file from the System.Disk, and launch the finder.
>Wow, intelligent engineering at Apple.  Never thought I'd see any of that
>that System 7 thing : )

Well...I don't understand what happened when you did that (maybe the Finder
searched your Icons folders in a different order & accidentally got the
effect you wanted).

Anyway, icon pictures are not stored in FType.Apple--the Filetype Descriptor
files only have the *names* of various kinds of files.

The real solution to punting stale icon information, or document-to-app
mapping information, is to throw out the Desktop file (inside the Icons
folder) on the disk in question (the disk containing the application, or
the startup disk, or both).
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From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (unknown user)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 & AWGS (Bugs?)
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Date: 31 Mar 92 08:21:43 GMT
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In article <1992Mar30.150348.38898@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 2frjbits@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Preston Park) writes:
>Anyway, the one wierd thing is that sometimes when I hold down
>control-option-shift and double-click on an application (I can never keep track
>of the modifier to override the finder.data write) it opens the boot partition
>on my HD rather than running the application (which is on another partition).
>Is it supposed to do that?

	Do you mean it brings up a Standard File dialog?  If so, I know
what you're talking about.  It is trying to let you re-map an icon to a
different application.  For example, by default double-clicking on a
text file runs Teach, the neato_cool_keen editor included in System 6.
(Lane Roath has a cool fast editor that's very similar but more feature-
packed.. I'm just used to Teach).
	But anyway, in this example, you could option-doubleclick on a text
file and then find Appleworks GS. Then from now on when you doubleclick on
a text file, it will run Appleworks GS.

>Also, there is a dialogue that comes up and says "The modem port is not
>selected in the control panel" whenever I run AWGS under System 6.  This gets
>pretty annoying since I run Appleshare from the modem port.  Is there something
>I can do to keep it from spitting at me all the time?
	
	Annoying, huh?  I actually didn't know it only happened with System 6
(seems strange, if you used Appleshare from the modem port previously, that
it didn't also give you the message).  Presumably there's nothing you can do
about it except patch the program or try running Appleshare from the printer
port instead.
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From: hal@budapest.math.macalstr.edu (Harold Byron Bouma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Important Stuff on System 6 ICONS...
Keywords: System 6, Icons, Important information
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	Ok, a lot of questions have been asked about System 6 Icons, and to  
possibly save Dave and Andy a lot of repeatidly asked questions about it, I  
will take a moment to answer it.

	There are now TWO ways to represent icons in System 6. The old way of  
having them in icon files in the system folder still exists, but there are now  
the new way of storing the icons in the Finder's resource fork. These are known  
as rIcons, and all the old finder icons and finder icons.x icons have been  
represented in this manner. But Andy has given priority of the rIcons over the  
old icon files, so even if you put a new "font file" icon or "trash can" icon
in the icon folder, it will be ignored.

	As I had stated a little earlier, right now, only Genesys can modify  
rIcon files, and it has next to nill support of converting icons from icon  
files into rIcons (or at least I couldn't figure out how). Maybe after Dave  
gets the System 6 specs out, he might update his icon editor for the resource  
formats too..

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From: shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 Icons question
Message-ID: <64985@apple.Apple.COM>
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:42:31 GMT
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In article <1992Apr6.173230.453@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bp664@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Grover Thomas) writes:

>Hey, how do I remove the application map from a particular icon.
>Lets say I boo-boo'd and I mapped the icon to the wrong app??

You have to remove the "Desktop" file in your ICONS folder (probably on your
boot drive).  The file is invisible, so you'll have to turn "Hide invisible
files" off.

andy

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