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[2023-03-20T03:25:27Z] <Ellowee[m]> <midfavila> "what the hell man, 30-40 years..." <- ((They)) want you to have 10 years of experience before 20, 20 before 25
[2023-03-20T04:07:10Z] <testuser[m]123> Hi
[2023-03-20T04:53:39Z] <Ellowee[m]> ih
[2023-03-20T05:33:21Z] <sad_plan> hi
[2023-03-20T05:58:26Z] * testuser[m]123 uploaded an image: (75KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/envs.net/da351f9485ed1158bc092c4890fd9df55f648cbe/Screenshot_20230320-112429_Fennec.png >
[2023-03-20T05:58:29Z] <testuser[m]123> Literally 1984
[2023-03-20T05:58:37Z] <testuser[m]123> Mobile internet shutdown since 3 days
[2023-03-20T06:02:38Z] <sewn> bleh
[2023-03-20T08:27:55Z] <midfavila> Ellowee[m]: it honestly fuckin seems that way sometimes
[2023-03-20T08:54:41Z] <midfavila> https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/877683
[2023-03-20T09:05:18Z] <sewn> https://invidious.lunar.icu/watch?v=DX8NZU_Kn-U
[2023-03-20T09:08:44Z] <midfavila> kids these days, what with their devil-music 
[2023-03-20T09:08:49Z] <midfavila> and their devil-games
[2023-03-20T09:09:06Z] <midfavila> like that there dungeons and dragons. don't think i don't know what you're up to sewn
[2023-03-20T09:09:43Z] <midfavila> https://invidious.lunar.icu/channel/UCEVndLRqBDNcZhBdWo5oepg
[2023-03-20T09:09:50Z] <midfavila> you should check this guy out. probably up your alley.
[2023-03-20T09:12:30Z] <sewn> I used to listen to him years ago mid
[2023-03-20T09:12:41Z] <midfavila> fair enough :p 
[2023-03-20T09:13:11Z] <sewn> midfavila: also kids these days mostly listen to like
[2023-03-20T09:13:20Z] <midfavila> DEVIL MUSIC
[2023-03-20T09:13:20Z] <sewn> glitchcore or whatever bullshit its callrd
[2023-03-20T09:13:25Z] <sewn> no not devil music
[2023-03-20T09:13:44Z] * midfavila prepares to stone sewn
[2023-03-20T09:13:53Z] <sewn> I listen to devil music not them
[2023-03-20T09:14:13Z] <midfavila> all nu-zoom-zooms are equally deserving of death by stoning smdh
[2023-03-20T09:17:35Z] <midfavila> i tell ya, back in my day if you wanted to be cool and hip, it was as easy as listening to haircuts for men
[2023-03-20T09:31:58Z] <sewn> very cool
[2023-03-20T10:48:39Z] <midfavila> you know what - goal this week: get a simple X11 image viewer out the door with support for the X11 image formats, JPEG, PNG, and (maybe) BMP and GIF based on Xaw with Edward Falk's extensions
[2023-03-20T10:49:23Z] <midfavila> been way too focused on XIrc and the amount of shit I'd need to learn to get *that* out 
[2023-03-20T10:51:43Z] <sewn> use XImaging and don't reinvent the wheel plz
[2023-03-20T10:51:45Z] <sewn> unless its so fat
[2023-03-20T10:53:47Z] <midfavila> i'll reinvent the wheel if i so choose to
[2023-03-20T10:54:47Z] <midfavila> and anyway, while Motif is better than GTK, Xaw is better than Motif
[2023-03-20T10:54:55Z] <midfavila> in terms of relative simplicity
[2023-03-20T11:22:54Z] <sewn> why dont you look into plan9's stuff
[2023-03-20T13:11:30Z] <rohan> hi guys
[2023-03-20T13:11:44Z] <rohan> mpv just works with ytdlp with luajit?
[2023-03-20T13:11:50Z] <rohan> or i can use lua too
[2023-03-20T13:25:21Z] <sewn> <rohan> "mpv just works with ytdlp with..." <- use luajit
[2023-03-20T13:25:40Z] <sewn> lua won't work with mpv cuz its too new
[2023-03-20T15:08:46Z] <Ellowee[m]> <testuser[m]123> "Mobile internet shutdown since 3..." <- Use briar and manyverse
[2023-03-20T15:09:09Z] <Ellowee[m]> They can only use EMPs to disrupt mesh networking
[2023-03-20T17:02:03Z] <midfavila> sewn, i have, and unfortunately plan 9 isn't a viable choice of operating system for me just yet
[2023-03-20T17:02:37Z] <midfavila> otherwise i would probably be messaging you from plan 9 rn
[2023-03-20T17:03:14Z] <midfavila> also man i think software testing is a good place for me to be
[2023-03-20T17:03:33Z] <midfavila> there's plenty of decent-paying entry level remote work there and i'm sure it wouldn't be hard to move laterally into development
[2023-03-20T17:07:14Z] <midfavila> a lot of the listings i'm seeing in canada also seem to have *actually reasonable* requirements for entry level stuff
[2023-03-20T17:08:43Z] <sewn> what about uxn
[2023-03-20T17:09:17Z] <sewn> nvm
[2023-03-20T17:09:30Z] <sewn> btw you should have a look at xmessage or creating something similar you could use in shells cripts
[2023-03-20T17:09:39Z] <midfavila> i use xmessage regularly
[2023-03-20T17:09:43Z] <sewn> nice
[2023-03-20T17:09:44Z] <midfavila> i'll be replacing it soon:tm:
[2023-03-20T17:09:55Z] <sewn> let me guess, with your own?
[2023-03-20T17:10:00Z] <midfavila> correct.
[2023-03-20T17:10:17Z] <midfavila> have you *looked* at the codebases for the standard X11 desk toys? they're awful
[2023-03-20T17:10:22Z] <sewn> nope
[2023-03-20T17:10:44Z] <midfavila> there are also some glaring defects in a few of them, for example xload
[2023-03-20T17:10:56Z] <midfavila> why limit it to CPU usage? why not let it read from a FIFO or stdin?
[2023-03-20T17:10:58Z] <sewn> xmessage is pretty small in loc tho
[2023-03-20T17:11:17Z] <sewn> midfavila: maybe cuz its meant for showing load of system not status of fifo or stdin
[2023-03-20T17:11:17Z] <midfavila> lines of code isn't the only measure of complexity or quality or what have you
[2023-03-20T17:11:53Z] <midfavila> my point is that it's choosing to solve a hyperspecialized instance of a very general task when solving the generalized version of that task would be as easy or easier
[2023-03-20T17:12:48Z] <sewn> okey
[2023-03-20T17:13:44Z] <midfavila> as for uxn and stuff i'm not interested in using linux as a bootloader /shrug
[2023-03-20T17:38:21Z] <sewn> [what did he mean by this]