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jaix: I mostly agree with you; not sure how the relay thing will settle down. Perhaps it will consolidate into some super-relays that aggregate events from smaller ones, who knows. The simplicity of the protocol is what I find most interesting.
yeah the simplicity is a key strength
... emergence of hierarchy exactly as seen in webistan ...
hierarchy?
folks flock to antenna or gse or capcom or whatever, as it's easier to use those, so those get bigger, have more influence
ah i'm with you
i guess they solve real problems
in this case, discoverability
there's a role for curation in there too, which is related to discoverability, i think it's just more honest about potential bias
some reading here is "Why we live in hierarchies: a quantitative treatise" or "Political Order and Inequality"
I love Antenna. Probably because I'm about 300% biased
Maybe non-federated client-server models encourage some degree of hierarchy. With no peer-to-peer discoverability, folks and their associated activity just tend to coalesce around hubs. I mean: gopher, web, and gemini all share the same fundamental network model.
There was a similar thing back in the day even with FTP, where there were some huge and popular anonymous FTP sites.
Examples of things that don't lead to coalescing around the hubs: Usenet, ActivityPub-based social networking, probably lots more.
AP still leads to coalescense around big hubs. As long as there’s a technological and/or financial barrier to entry this will be the case. A huge majority of fediverse users are registered to ome of a very small amount of servers.