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From: b645zaw@utarlg.uta.edu (Stephen Tice)
Subject: Koresh Doctrine
Message-ID: <23APR199307050091@utarlg.uta.edu>
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 13:05:00 GMT
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[Note: This contains all 4 parts, concatenated.]
Koresh Text from 3-02 (part 1 of 4) Analysts' Notes jst/sdt
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March 2nd, 1993. |
|
My name is Dave Koresh. I'm Speaking to | I. Introduction to the Revelation
you from Mount Carmel center. The first | of Jesus Christ.
thing that I would like to introduce, in |
our subject, is the reasons for the reve-|
lation of Jesus Christ. |
| A. The Reasons for
|
In the Book of Revelation, commentary | 1. To Show What Must Come.
states, that what John has written in |
Scripture, is nothing other than the |
revelation of Jesus Christ which God |
gave to him, to show to his servants |
things which must shortly come to pass. |
And he sent and signified it, signified |
it, by his angel unto his servant John. |
|
Now, John bear the Record of God, and | 2. To Bless the Reader.
the Word of Christ, and of all things |
that he saw. In the first chapter of |
Revelation it says, "Blessed is the man, | Rev. 1:3
.. blessed is he that readeth, and they |
that hear the words of this prophecy, |
and those who "keep" the things that are |
written therein, for the time is at |
hand." |
|
The Scripture states John writes this to | 3. To Address the Churches.
the seven churches which are in Asia: | Rev. 1:11
Ephesus, Smyrna, Thyatira, Sardis, Phil- |
adelphia, Laodicea, so forth. Naturally, | also Pergamos
we must understand that we're not in |
Asia. These churches once existed long |
ago, being beneficiaries of the power |
and the gifts of the gospel. It was ori- |
ginally introduced by, The Man himself. |
Some knew him as Jesus Christ; others |
knew him by the name -- Yeshua. |
|
What we're trying to present today may | 4. To Impart the Burden of
in somewise shed a better light in re- | Heart, Mind, and Spirit.
gards to my situation and my predicament |
here at Mount Carmel. One point I'd like | a. Record of Christ's life.
to bring out before we continue, is that |
if we take a look at Matthew, Mark, Luke | The Gospel Writers.
and John, we see the "burden of these |
ancient writers:" the burden of heart, |
the burden of mind and spirit, to put in |
a scriptural record, their personal ex- |
perience with Christ. A record that is | b. For anyone to read.
to be received by men, all men, who will |
receive it. |
|
The point is true that not all have seen | 5. Witnesses of the Rejection
Christ, but it has been in the wisdom of | of the Son of God.
God that certain men who were witnesses |
of his life, and death, and resurrection,|
that they would bear witness by the writ-| a. Witnesses for Christ
ten word, and testify to the generations | ie Apostles & Disciples
to come, of the terrible happening that |
took place, when the men of that genera- | cf. Prophets, as witnesses
tion would not believe in the man who | for God
through so many obvious evidences proved |
beyond shadows of doubt, that he was the |
Son of God. |
| B. The Revealer: Jesus Christ.
| 1. Jesus Rejected.
|
But sad to say, if we take a look of the | a. Left Juda under threat of
Record of John, the `Gospel Writer' of | death.
John, say Chapter 7. We see in Scripture |
John writes that after certain events, | John 7:1
after these things "Jesus walked in |
Galilee:" he would not walk openly, "he | Koresh is quoting the Bible,
would not walk in Jewry," he would not | from the Book of John.
walk amongst the Jews, "because the Jews |
sought to kill him." We might wonder |
why? Wasn't Christ a such a good man?? |
|
"Now the Jews' Feast of Tabernacles was | b. His own brethren doubt him.
at hand. His brethren therefore said un- | John 7:2
to him, Depart hence, and go into Judea, | John 7:3
that thy disciples also may see thy |
works that thou doeth. For there is no | John 7:4
man that doeth any thing in secret, and |
he himself seeketh to be known openly. |
If thou do these things, show thyself to |
the world. For neither did his brethren | John 7:5
believe in him." Strange statement isn't |
it? It's funny how that, when men live, |
and have to deal with realities of life, |
that even a man like Christ, can have to |
meet with unbelief, even from his own |
brethren. |
|
"Then Jesus said unto them, My time is | c. Hated by the world.
not yet come: but your time is alway | John 7:6
ready." And I'm sure most of all, bible |
students will agree, the time referred |
to, is the time of his crucifixion. They |
wanted to kill him, and he didn't want |
to show himself openly. |
|
Then Jesus said unto them... <excuse me | d. You are of the world.
uhnn>, (Verse 7) "The world can not hate | <Koresh seems in pain.>
you; but me it hateth, because I testify | John 7:7
of it, that the works thereof are evil. | John 7:8
Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up |
yet unto this feast; for my time is not |
yet full come." When he said these words | John 7:9
to them while he abode still in Galilee. |
|
"But when his brethren were gone up, | e. Went to feast in secret.
then went he also up unto the feast, not | John 7:10
openly, but as it were in secret." You |
would wonder why a man like Christ would |
have something to hide? I mean surely, |
the angels would protect him, obviously. |
A person would think a lot of things |
about this strange character, and dispo- |
sition of character. |
|
But we're sure -- being Christians -- | f. Caused contention.
that Christ knew what he was doing. And | Koresh is Christian?!
"the Jews [sought] him at the feast, and | John 7:11
said, Where is he? And there was much | John 7:12
murmuring among the people concerning |
him: [for] some said, He is a good man: | Rev. 7:1
others said, Nay; but he deceiveth * the | * <child cries>
people. Howbeit no man spake openly of | John 7:13
him for fear of the Jews." |
|
Now we understand *the Jews at that time | g. Backdrop: Corrupt leaders.
had their own religious-political net- |
work, didn't they? They were pretty |
strong in the religious spectrum, * al- | * <child's voice>
though they had no actual political |
power. They were subject to the Roman |
government, and not to their own judi- |
cial/levitical laws. |
| 2. Taught with Authority.
|
"Now about the midst of the feast Jesus | a. The people marvel.
went up into the temple, and taught. | John 7:14
And the Jews marvelled, saying, How | John 7:15
knoweth this man letters, having never |
learned?" * Now in the days of Israel, * | * <child whines>
most scholars * and teachers will agree, | * <child crying>
- that the schools of Israel, ordained | * <tape off & on>
by the Sanhedrin and also the Pharisees, |
were schools similar to the uhh, ones |
of our own theological schools of today. |
|
Of which the careful student of Scrip- | b. Insights to Scripture.
ture observes, that nowhere is it writ- |
ten in the gospel that Christ ever at- |
tended these schools. But at the age of |
12, he did enter into the temple, and | Luke 2:41-47
had a most unique and interesting dis- |
cussion with the religious leaders, of |
which they were quite amazed at, such a |
young lad's knowledge of Scripture. |
|
Now this man was teaching something -- | c. For it was God's teachings.
(no doubt Christ that is) that inspired |
the people to say, (you know), "How | John 7:15 cont.
knoweth this man (you know) letters |
having never learned?" They marveled. |
"Jesus answered them and [said], My doc- | John 7:16
trine is not mine, but his that sent |
me." Now, what does that mean? "My doc- |
trine is not mine, but his that sent me. |
If any man, will" (do the will) "do his |
will, he shall know [of] the doctrine, |
whether it be of God, or whether I speak |
of myself." |
|
- - - : * Koresh Tells His Motives *
|
Now friends, people that love the Lord, | There's a short break
this is where we begin to uhhh, talk | from the message about
about some serious things. | Christ here.
|
I'm sure you're all aware of how... how |
I'm involved in a very serious thing |
right now, and I'm sure that a lot of |
you realize that I should be possibly |
scared, concerned. There's women, child- |
ren, and men involved, in our situation |
here at Mount Carmel. But I am really |
concerned about the lives of my brethren | <- Concern for family.
here, and also, would be concerned even |
greater, about the lives of all those in | <- Concern for rest of world.
this world. |
|
- - - :
| 3. Jesus is Our Hope.
|
You know, without Christ, without Jesus, | a. God's law of righteousness.
we have no hope. Why? Well, because we |
know that the standard of God's righ- | Deu. 4,5,6
teousness is Law, a law of the Ten Com- |
mandments, a law of statutes and judg- |
ments. And which God gave unto Moses |
on Sinai, saying this is thy righteous- |
ness, O Israel. |
|
But you know, God also gave another law. | b. Sacrifice as a shadow of
A law revolving around a system of shed- | grace.
ding a poor and innocent lamb's blood. |
So that all who would break the Law of |
God, who would seek God for forgiveness |
and pardon, had to bring a lamb, some- |
thing innocent, and slay it -- although, |
Israel themselves never really knew the |
real meaning of this. Nonetheless, they |
were commanded to do it. Also there were | Lev. 12:6
other sacrifices, such as: turtle-doves, | Num. 19:2
goats, oxen, red heifers. | Heb. 9:12-14
|
But, it was a very sophisticated and | c. Social impacts. (An aside)
very prolific type system of worship. Of |
course, God had to give these people |
their own country. He had to give them |
blessings and things, to be able to per- |
form these, rituals. And naturally of |
course, having to slay a lamb for your |
sins or such sacrifices, it would defini-|
tely keep a man on guard, not to sin too |
much, because otherwise he could lose |
the livestock pretty quick, couldn't he? |
|
Well anyway, (thanks be unto God), from | d. The Law and The Prophets
as far back as Deuteronomy 32, all the | highlight God's mercy.
way through to Malachi, there has been |
other writings, writings of the Proph- | God's writings are His
ets. Writings who do not usurp the au- | Word
thority of Moses, but actually exalt The |
Law of Moses. But yet there's an addi- | God's rock hard law
tional testimony. For the same God of |
Heaven -- Who's rich in mercy -- has not | God's loving mercy
only given to men a Law, but also a way |
of escape, for those Repentant Souls who |
might fall short of the glory of God's |
law. Which some scholars will agree, |
that the glory of God's law is that it's |
a divine precept of His own character. |
God's character is revealed in The Law. |
|
Now, Christ is the only hope for a world | e. Is Christ the Word of God?
that sins. Now, how do we know? Well -- |
The Prophets -- have prophesied? But |
what if we're not familiar with the |
prophets? Well, were the Jews familiar |
with the prophets when this Word-of-God |
was made flesh? When Mary, The Virgin, |
had a baby boy, did everyone believe, |
that she was really a virgin when Christ |
was conceived? |
|
If we search the Scriptures, we'll find | f. The Prophet's told.
in certain arguments the Pharisees con- |
fronted Christ -- and said to him, "We | John 8:41
be not sons born of fornication." So |
obviously, not everyone believed that he |
was a child of a virgin birth! If they | Prophets were ignored
hadn't looked back to Isaiah chapter 8, |
and learned the mystery of Immanuel | Isa. 7:14
-- that a virgin would conceive and bear |
a son -- then they might not really put |
too much ahhm... [con]sistency into the | <tape off & on>
fact that Christ at that day claimed to |
be born of a virgin. I mean, if Isaiah |
the prophet was a false prophet, well |
then naturally they would conclude that |
anyone claiming to have these things |
fulfilled would be false, too. |
|
But of course, Christ, he did something | g. Miracles confirm.
more, than to just fulfill prophecy. He |
did miracles. Miracles of mercy such as: |
healing the sick, feeding the hungry, |
raising the dead. And if we study we'll |
see that "Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John" |
gives us in somewhat, a full view of the |
oppositions, and also, the confidements, |
that he had in doing these miracles. He |
gathered many unto him through the means |
of these miracles. |
|
But sad to say, even though he had done | h. Those healed believed.
so many miracles, Scripture says, yet |
when it came right down to it, they did |
not believe in him. It's amazing to |
think that even his own disciples for- |
sook him -- except Mary Magdalene. She |
stayed with him to the very end, didn't |
she? Last to leave The Cross, first to |
come to the sepulchre. * Now, we need to | * <tape off & on>
sit here, and we need to ask ourselves |
the question, `how come the men of that |
generation did not believe in Christ?' |
|
In Matthew 23, Christ had to say to the | i. Christ confirmed by Prophets
Jews "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem" how often | Mat. 23:37
I would have gathered you, but you would |
not. Why? He tells them that they have | Not re-gathered, since
forsaken The Prophets. "Thou that kill- | they've forsaken the
est the prophets," how often I would | Prophets. Has Christ
have gathered you. How does the subject | then told plainly how?
of `gathering Israel' and `the prophets' |
combine together? Then he tells them |
that their houses, their temple, is left | Mat. 23:38
to them desolate. |
| 4. Christ's Teachings on
| Last Things.
|
And that in Matthew 24, as Christ said | a. What signs of his coming?
on the Mount of Olives, his disciples | Mat. 24:1-2
came to him secretively to ask him, con- | Mat. 24:3
cerning these things. What should be the |
sign of thy coming and of the end of the |
world? Well, Christ begins to tell them, | Mat. 24:4
let no man deceive you, "For many shall | Mat. 24:5
come in my name, saying, I am Christ; |
and shall deceive many." |
|
A lot of bible students think that verse | b. Some willingly deceived?
refers to the people coming, and saying |
that they themselves are Christ. Well, |
naturally, if someone came claiming to |
be Christ... Christ covers that subject |
by saying that if any shall say, Lo he's |
"in the desert;" believe him not "go not | Mat. 24:26
forth." If he is in the secret chambers; |
"believe it not." |
|
But he goes on to say, that as lightning | c. Certain signs.
shines in the east, even to the west, | Mat. 24:27
so also shall his coming be. And he goes |
on to add, but "wheresoever the carcase | Mat. 24:28
is, there will the eagles be gathered |
together." | The carcass of Babylon?
|
Now, unless we knew what was on the mind | d. Eagle's Nest??
of Christ, the day he sat with his dis- |
ciples on the Mount of Olives, and gave |
the instruction to them according to |
Matthew 24; unless we could look into |
his mind, we would only have to specu- |
late, it would only be an opinion to try |
to figure out what it means, "wheresoev- | Mat. 24:28
er the carcase is, the eagles..." What |
carcass? Whose carcass? What eagles? |
What are the eagles? |
|
Well, Christ tells you of many signs in | e. Abomination of Desolation.
Matthew 24. He says, "when ye shall see | Mat. 24:15
the abomination of desolation, spoken of |
by Daniel the prophet, stand in the Holy |
Place, (of course, it says ye that read- |
eth, let him understand), those who are |
in Judea are supposed to flee to the | Mat. 24:16
mountains. |
|
| 5. Christ points to the Prophets
|
Now, what kind of points are these? What | a. Where to Get Insight.
is in the mind of Christ? Is Christ | 1 Cor. 2:16
trying to tell us, that we need to go |
back and study the prophet Daniel, to |
see if maybe Daniel had some insight, in |
regards to an abomination that maketh | Dan. 9:27 & 12:11
desolate? Now, an abomination is some- | A reference to any vileness
thing nobody wants; especially, if it | set up in place of God; the
makes us desolate. Now, what do these | result, wasted barrenness.
things mean? |
|
Well, we learned earlier in the Book of | b. Not his, but God's Teachings
John, Christ stated, "My doctrine is not | John 7:16
mine, but he who sent me." Now, we've |
got "Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John" (and | The Apostles
everybody in the Christian world his- | John 17:25
tory), to hear these men reveal Christ. | Mat. 27:55-56
The Christ they lived with. The Christ | Mark 15:37-40
they loved. The Christ that they didn't | Luke 24:10
understand sometimes. The Christ that | Mark 16:1,9
they had to see cruelly mocked, and | John 20:11-18
beaten, and ridiculed, and rejected, |
and killed. |
|
But, thanks be unto God on the Cross[!], | c. Christ's Expression of Love.
their Jesus, stated, "Father, forgive | Luke 23:34
them; for they know not what they do." |
And he also said, (which is the point |
that we're fixin' to get into quite hea- |
vily), "Father, into thy hand I commit | Luke 23:46 Psa. 31:5
my spirit." | Koresh says "commit" for
| "commend," same meaning.
|
Taking from Psalms 31, we begin to see | d. The words of God, Scripture.
that Christ is quite well versed in the |
Scriptures, just like the Gospels tell | Mat. 4:1-11
us, when he confronted the devil. Always | Luke 4:2-22
referring against the temptation by sta- | Mark 1:12,13
ting, "It is written, It is written, It |
is written." |
| 6. Is the Spirit Imparted
| Through the Written Word?
|
Now what is this Spirit of Christ? Well, | a. Sharing Blood and Flesh.
they pierced his side, and out his side | 1 John 5:6-8 John 19:34
came blood and water. Again another mys- | Mat. 26:26-29
tery. Which became something to do with | Heb. 9:18-23
eating his body, and drinking his blood, | 1 Cor. 10:16-17
some implements for The Church. | 1 Cor. 11:23-27
|
But, what does these things really mean? | b. Bathed in Righteousness.
Well, after we've read Acts and learned |
of the Power on Pentecost -- the "cloven | Acts 2:3
tongues of fire" -- that came upon the |
Apostles, who by mercy through Christ, |
were given another chance to recover |
from their folly; we learned through |
Romans that there is a righteousness of | Rom. 3:21-28
God in Christ, "declare his righteous- | Rom. 3:25
ness." | Jer. 23:6
|
We learn in Corinthians 1st and 2nd. We | c. Child of God.
learn in Ephesians, Galatians, and Phil- |
lipians... Ohh! We have such a wealth: |
of information, of such intelligent men, |
who speak sometimes, very deep mystical | Acts 17:27-31
things about a God -- who is in the form |
of humanity -- who is the Son of God who | A God within human hearts
sits at the right hand of God in the | and minds??
highest courts of the universe. Who pro- |
mises that one day, He will come again. |
|
| 7. Christ & Disciples Persecuted
|
Well, the last living Apostle, through | a. Pointing to Paul?
this great controversy... (and I might | 1 Cor. 9:1,2 & 15:9
add -- those who persecuted Christ, who | Acts 9:4 & 22:6-8
would not hear him no matter what sign | 1 Cor. 9:20-22
was given) ...also persecuted his disci- | Acts 9:1,13
ples. | Mat. 12:38 & 16:1
| Mark 8:11
|
And finally, we end up in the Book of | b. John's controversy -- The
Revelation, where John, (the last living | Testimony of Jesus Christ.
disciple on the isle of Patmos), being a |
prisoner for the Word of God and for the |
testimony of Jesus Christ -- which no | Rev. 1:9
doubt is a thing Jesus has to say. Which | Jer. 23:16
would probably be quite controversial to |
the things that the Pharisees and Sanhe- |
drin of the day had to say, we're sure. |
|
He, (being on this isle of Patmos a pri- | c. John's Vision.
soner, on the Lord's day), had a vision. | Rev. 1:10
And it states in this vision, (we should |
all be familiar with it hopefully -- or |
get familiar with it), he has a messen- | Rev. 1:11
ger, The Angel Lord come to him, who |
identifies himself as the Spirit. And he |
is told, to write to the seven churches | Rev. 1:19
of Asia. Of which, we can see clearly | Rev. 2 & 3
in the Scriptures, that they were given |
specific and direct * messages from | * <cell phone rings>
Christ. * And in each one of these mes- | * <tape off & on>
sages, Christ specifically told to the |
churches what he would have them to do. |
|
Now, we know that Christ is the only man | d. Christ also rejected.
in Scripture who ever kept The Law of | Heb. 4:15
God perfectly. We know that, because |
we've heard the writings of the apostles.|
But, sad to say, the religious leaders |
of his days, and the majority of the |
populace of his days, didn't think so. |
It's funny how that is. It's kind of | Mat. 23:27-34
like people always like to build the |
sepulchers of the dead prophets, and |
garnish their tombs, but yet they hate |
and kill living prophets. Only God knows |
why that is. But nonetheless... |
|
To the church (of Ephesus, Smyrna, [Per- | e. Counsel to the Churches.
gamos,] Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, |
Laodicea -- the churches thus involved, |
for anyone to read) direct counsel's gi- |
ven. Beginning with, "UNTO the angel | Rev. 2:1
of the church of Ephesus write; These |
things," (then... blah - blah), and what | Likely missed in editing.
happens is this message is given. |
|
And then the decision is up to those who | f. Those who overcome.
profess Christ. Each counsel ends with, | Rev. 2:7,11,17,29
"he that hath an ear..." -- to hear -- | Rev. 3:6,13,22
(only if you want to know) "let him hear |
what the Spirit saith unto the churches."|
Koresh Text from 3-02 (part 2 of 4) | Analysts' Notes jst/sdt
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: II. Book of Seven Seals.
| A. John's account.
|
Finally, we get to the fourth chapter of | 1. Throne Room.
Revelation. And the student of Scripture |
becomes interested in the subject, which |
according to John says, "After..." these |
things, (of course, he was referring to | Rev. 3:20
the last part of the 3rd chapter, of the | "I stand at the door
message to Laodicea). | and knock..."
|
He says after these things, <I fol...> | 2. John Enters Heaven.
"And, behold, a door was open in heaven: | Rev. 4:1
and the first voice which" spake to me |
"as it were of a trumpet," talked with | Col. 4:3
me; which says, "come up hither, and I |
will shew" you that "which must be here- |
after." |
|
Now, the question to every true Chris- | 3. Do You Believe?
tian is this: Is John telling it as a |
truth, or is John lying to us? We know |
he just gave counsels to the 7 churches |
of Asia, (which were alive and hopefully |
in good health, when he first gave these |
letters to them). But nonetheless, they |
being of Asia, are no wise the same peo- |
ple of us today, or even of the oncoming |
years thereafter. |
|
So, the events of Chapter 4, clearly ex- | 4. A Vision of the hereafter.
plained by John, that his messenger as |
sent to him stated that he'd be taken up | Rev. 4:1
- hither -- therefore a Door opened into | * <tape off & on>
Heaven (the Bible records), and he would |
be shown things which must be hereafter, |
- sometimes after John's day. | * <child murmurs>
|
| B. Judgment Room.
|
Now what does he behold? In chapter 4 of | 1. John in the Spirit.
Revelation, he says that he was in the |
spirit, "immediately I was in the spirit:| Rev. 4:2
and, behold, a throne was set in heaven."|
And h e states that the throne was occu- |
pied, "one sat on the throne." |
|
And, He that sat upon the Throne, which | 2. Is God the throne?
[was] "lined" with jasper and sardine | Heb. 1:8
stone. A careful student of Scripture, | The Rock -- symbol of Law
knows, all the way through prophecy, all |
the way through the Bible, as far back |
as the days of Genesis, even to the pro- | Deu. 32:4,15,18
phecy of Deuteronomy 32, where it says, | 2 Sam. 22:32 Psa. 31:2,3
God is a rock -- `He is a Rock.' And his | Isa. 8:14, 17:10, 44:8
work is done in truth and righteousness | 1 Cor. 10:4
-- all the prophets refer to God as a | 1 Pet. 2:6
Rock. |
|
Now here we see in Revelation John like- | 3. In & Around the Throne.
wise witnesses God has the appearance of | Rev. 4:3
a jasper and sardine stone. He claims | Eze. 1:26
that there was a rainbow round about the |
throne in sight like an emerald. He care-|
fully saw that there were living crea- | Rev. 4:6-9
tures around the throne saying that God |
is "holy, holy, holy ... which was, and | Rev. 4:8
is, and is to come." A God, who created |
all things, for His pleasure they were | Rev. 4:11
and are created." |
|
Now, this instruction emphasizes, that | 4. 24 Elders.
there is a God, a kingdom, a judiciary, |
(in the respect that John witnesses that | Rev. 4:4
there are 24 elders, sitting on 24 |
thrones, seems to imply a judgment). But | the Prophets & Apostles
uniquely enough in this judgment, or in |
this throne, (or in `this heavenly sanc- | Heb. 8:1-5
tuary,' as we see from the writings of |
Paul, the Apostle), Paul talks about the | Heb. 12:22 (12:18-29)
heavenly sanctuary, the heavenly Sion. | Deu. 4:48
|
In this sanctuary we see a God, a rain- | 5. Mystery of Christ.
bow, a throne; living creatures stating | Eph. 3:4,9
that God is holy; which was, and is, and | Rev. 4:7-8
is-to-come -- God of the past, present, | Eze. 1:10
and future. And that this God, who is | Rev. 4:11
the Creator of all things, is holy and | Col. 1:9-20
deserves to be worshipped. | Col. 1:25-27
|
| C. Sealed Book
|
We continue on in chapter 5, to see that | 1. Scroll.
I beheld, John says, "in the right hand | Rev. 5:1
of him that sat on the throne a book" or |
a scroll -- "sealed with seven seals." |
(Notice, it's written on the inside and |
the backside.) Well the meaning of these |
things can only be speculated, until we |
have solid proof, in other words, unless |
we were there ourselves to see it, in |
detail. |
|
But, what we are allowed to see in the | 2. Congregation.
Scripture, (as John also beholds) [is] a |
mighty angel. In this throne room were | Rev. 5:2
all these angels, "[ten] thousand times | Rev. 5:11
ten thousand, and thousands of thou- | Psa. 68:17-18
sands," are called together. | Dan. 7:10
|
And, this mighty angel questions all | 3. Mighty Angel Prosecutes.
those in heaven, "Who is worthy to open | Rev. 5:2
this book, and to loose the seven seals |
thereof?" Clearly Scripture states, "no | Rev. 5:3
man in heaven, [nor in] earth, neither |
under the earth" (of course `buried' in |
other words, we do have dead in this |
world, you know), was worthy to open |
"neither to look thereon." |
|
So hey! God says in Scripture, at least | a. God's living Book,
John testifies, in Scripture, that the | written in our hearts?
Mystery of God -- His Book -- is sealed. |
|
Well, what happens is, as we continue on | 4. One Worthy to Judge.
we see in Chapter 5, that John begins to | a. John's sorrow.
weep until one of the elders says, "Weep | Rev. 5:4
not" John "behold, the Lion of the Tribe | b. The Lion.
of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevail-| Rev. 5:5
ed to open the book, and to loose [the |
seven] seals thereof." (Of which we know |
the Lamb, being a symbol of Christ, is | c. The Lamb.
brought to view.) |
|
And, John beheld a lamb, that had been | d. Is the Lamb, King?
slain "in the midst of the throne and of | Rev. 5:6
the four beasts," and the elders, with | 1 John 5:7
seven eyes and seven horns. Well, what's | Father, Spirit, Word???
the meaning of these things? |
|
If God, does have a revelation of Jesus | 5. God's Book is the Evidence.
Christ, which he gives to him to show to |
his servants, then here we begin to see | a. Another pointer to Jesus.
the meaning of these things. We see that |
God has a Book, which must be hereafter, |
(sometime after John's day; can-not be |
before John's day). The event is clearly |
identified as [one] which must be in the |
hereafter. And in this event, there's a |
Judgment that takes place. |
|
The Question -- `Who is worthy?' (The | 6. Innocent Victim.
answer, `No man.') The Answer to this -- |
`Only the Lamb.' So, [in] Scripture the | Jesus Christ is a man.
Lamb comes to the One on the Throne and | Rev. 5:7
takes the Book out of his Right Hand, | Rom. 8:34
and all of heaven bows before Him, and | Rev. 5:8,14
gives Him glory and honor. And then John | Who is the Lamb?
beheld the Lamb, in Chapter 6, beginning |
to OPEN THE SEALS. |
|
| D. Overview of the Seals.
|
Now, I've heard a lot of statements the | 1. Let the Record Show.
past couple of days, from people that |
are versed in Scripture, from people |
that are students of the Bible, saying |
this and saying that about the meaning | a. Message or Seal??
of these seals. But remember, we already |
see that in heaven, Christ, when he |
reveals the seals -- He is the only one |
that can do so. And remember, it's al- |
ready been said it's a revelation of | b. Father, Holy Spirit, and Son
Him, so there's a mystery between God |
the Father, His Book, and Christ, and | c. No doubt Koresh is Christian
what He is to reveal. |
|
What Scripture does tell us though, is | 2. First Seal.
that John beheld The Lamb open the 1st | a. Thunder? Perhaps a clue.
seal in chapter 6, there was a noise of | Rev. 6:1
thunder, and one of the 4 beast said |
come and see. John witnessed... <excuse |
me>. John witnessed that when he opened |
the 1st seal, there was "behold a white | b. The rider on the white horse
horse:" and he that sat up on him had a | Rev. 6:2
crown, a bow was given to him, "and he | Is this rider good or evil?
went forth conquering, and to conquer." |
|
Well, how does this reveal Christ? Oh, | c. Speculations.
well, a lot of people will tell you this |
was the early christian church. The | a hint
white horse is a symbol of purity. Some | 2 Cor. 4:2,3,12-18
even say this is the anti-christ, but |
now wait a minute. A lot of opinions | opinions
have been given on this subject. |
| 3. Second Seal.
So also on the 2nd seal. The man on the | a. The rider on the red horse
red horse has a great sword, going forth | Rev. 6:4
(you know) killing one another... I mean |
come on! Is this a revelation of Jesus | What is the message from God
Christ? | being revealed by Christ?
:
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:
| 4. An Executive Overview:
|
o [The first seal] | a. Rev. 6:2 (ie The 1st Seal)
|
One who has "a bow", "conquering and | The march of governments??
to conquer" -- sounds like war. | But we are more than
| conqerors. Rom. 8:37 (31-39)
|
o And the 2nd seal. | b. Rev. 6:4 (cf. 1:16)
|
"A great sword", "that they should | Truth wielded as a weapon,
kill one another" -- sounds terrible. | but not in love -- cuts both
| ways. Eph. 4:15
|
o The 3rd seal. | c. Rev. 6:5-6 (cf. 9:4)
|
[The] "man on a black horse," has bal- | Not worth selling your
ances. You know. What's this wheat and | birthright or your soul for.
barley stuff? "Hurt not the oil and | Mat. 16:26 Mar. 8:36,37
the wine." | Luk. 21:34 Heb. 12:15,16
| Deu. 29:17-20
|
o The 4th seal. | d. Rev. 6:7,8 (cf. 1:17,18)
|
"A pale horse," [and the] name of the | Fear not, the Son of man
one who sits on there is Death, and | holds the keys to hell
Hell follows him. How can these things | and death.
reveal Christ? | 1 John 4:18
|
o The 5th seal. | e. Rev. 6:9-11 (cf. 7:14)
|
Souls under [the] altar crying to God | Rom. 8:35,36
to avenge their blood which was shed | So, so many impatient
upon the earth. I mean, what is this? | children under foot.
| How many times...
|
| Rev. 1:9 2:2,3,19
| 3:10 13:10
| 14:12 22:11
| Mat. 18:23-35
| Luke 8:15 21:19
| Rom. 5:3,4 8:25 15:4,5
| 2 Cor. 6:4 12:12
| Col. 1:11
| 1 The. 1:3
| 2 The. 1:4
| 1 Tim. 6:11
| 2 Tim. 3:10
| Heb. 6:12 10:36 12:1
| Jam. 1:3,4 5:7,10,11
| 2 Pet. 1:6
| Tit. 2:2
|
o The 6th seal. | f. Rev. 6:12-17
|
Suns and stars being darkened. The hea-| Joel 2:31 Psa. 102:26
vens depart as a scroll. The sons of | Rev. 6:14
men crying to the rocks and mountains | Isa. 34:4 Heb. 1:10-12
to hide them from the face of the One | Rev. 6:16 (cf. 1:16)
who sets upon the Throne. I mean, The |
One who sets upon the Throne -- that's | Perhaps they hide in an
The Father, that's The Rock, isn't it? | effort to shield themselves
What can these things mean? | from the glory of the Lord.
|
| Gen. 3:8
| Exo. 3:2-4 19:18
| 24:17 33:20-23
| 34:34,35
| Deu. 4:11,12,24 9:3
| Psa. 37:6 97:3-6
| Isa. 30:26
| Dan. 7:9
| Nah. 1:5,6
| Hab. 3:3-5
| Zec. 14:12
|
| Acts 26:13
| Heb. 12:18,25-29
| 2 The. 1:7-10
| 1 Pet. 4:12
| 2 Pet. 3:7-12
| 1 Joh. 1:5
|
| Rev. 14:10-12,18 16:7,8
|
o The 7th seal is opened. | g. Rev. 8:3
|
And all of a sudden `the angel at the | Rev. 6:9 8:3-5 9:2,13
altar.' Then we begin to see the open- | Rev. 11:1 14:18 16:7,8
ing of the trumpets. |
|
Remember now, the 7th seal, contains all | 5. Key Bestowed by God.
the information from that point -- to |
the rest of the Bible. The trumpets con- |
tain a very interesting and unique story,|
but remember, we've got to understand |
`how to find the key' to interpret these |
things -- not with our opinions, but |
with the Mind of God. And no one can do | 1 Cor. 2:16
that, unless we have the Spirit of God. | John 6:63 16:13
And no one can have that, unless God | Psa. 119:50
gives it to us. | 1 The. 3:13
| 2 Cor. 3:3
| Eph. 4:30
|
Now let me review. | E. A Short Review.
|
Notice how during the 6th seal, the | 1. In Seal 6 -- Who Can Stand?
question is asked in the time of God's | (note this)
apparent wrath, who shall be able to |
stand? "For the [great] day of his wrath | Rev. 6:17
is come; and who shall be able to stand?"| Psa. 76:7
|
Notice, how that in, the next chapter, | 2. Sealing the 144,000.
chapter 7, NOT an additional seal is | the tribulation harvest
opened, but an answer. John sees that he |
beheld "four angels standing on the four | Rev. 7:1 9:4
corners of the earth, holding the four |
winds of the earth, that the wind should | Rev. 9:4 8:7
not blow on the earth, nor on the [sea, | James 1:11 Deu. 29:23
nor on any tree.]" | <tape garbled>
|
And he saw an "angel ascending from the | 3. Seal of the Living God
east, having the seal of The Living | Rev. 7:2 9:4 14:1
God:" What could that seal be? Who is | 2 Cor. 1:21,22 3:3
The Living God? Is the Living God the | Eph. 1:13 4:30
One on the Throne? Does the Living God | 2 Tim. 2:19
have something that we need to know? | Exo. 13:9,16
Does the Living God have some kind of | Deu. 6:8 11:18
seal? What could the SEAL be? We know |
there's seven seals, but that's sealed. | Son, Spirit, Word ???
No one can know that, but Christ. Well, | Doesn't the sun rise in
who is that angel from the east? | the east?
|
Yes, in Matthew 24, a lot of ministers | 4. Risen Son.
confront me and say, there will be many |
false prophets in the latter days. For | Mat. 24:3,11
remember, Christ told his disciples |
then, that when they see the "abomina- | Mat. 24:15
tion of desolation," as spoken of by the | Dan. 9:27, 12:11
Prophet Daniel, they would understand |
something. And he also said, that when | Mat. 24:23,26
they shall say `[he's] in the desert...' |
[then] go not forth, `he's in the secret |
chamber, believe it not.' For as light- | Mat. 24:27
ning in the east, shall shine unto the | Rev. 10:1
west; so also [shall the ] Son of man be.| Zec. 9:14
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| F. The 7th Seal.
|
[When the] 7th seal opens -- there's | 1. Trumpets.
silence. And 7 angels and 7 trumpets pre-| Rev. 8:1 (7 & 8 cf. 14)
pare themselves to sound. And it appears | Rev. 8:2,6
that some terrible plagues takes place. | Rev. 8:7-13 9:1-12
What could these things mean? Well, just |
as there was an interruption under the |
6th seal, so is there an interruption | Rev. 9:13
under the 6th trumpet. Under the 6th |
trumpet we learn about a mighty army of | Rev. 9:16
200 million. What are they doing? |
|
Well, we see, that during the break of | 2. 7th Angel(?)
this in chapter 10, a Mighty Angel comes | Rev. 10:1
down from heaven, "clothed with a cloud, | Rev. 1:7 14:14 Mat. 26:64
.. his face ... as it were the sun ... |
his feet are pillars of fire" and he has | Rev. 10:2
"in his hand a little book opened." He | Rev. 5:7
puts his right foot on the [sea], left | Koresh reversed earth & sea
foot on the [earth] and cries and a lion | Rev. 10:3
roars. And when he had cried, "seven | Dan. 12:4,10
thunders uttered their voices." Now what |
are these 7 thunders? What do these |
things mean? How do we categorize this |
book? What are we really looking at? |
Well... | <side 1 of source tape ends>
|
Remember, it is the Revelation of Jesus | 3. "I Do Solemnly Swear."
Christ, which God gave to Him, and re- | a. Another pointer to Jesus.
member the most fearful warning, ever |
given to man in Scripture is the warning | Rev. 22:15
found in Revelation 22, where Christ | Rev. 22:18
says, "For I testify to every man that |
hears the word of this prophecy: If any | "Let none of you imagine
man should add to the words of this | evil in your hearts against
prophecy, God shall ADD unto him the | his neighbor"
plagues that are written in this pro- | Rev. 22:19
phecy. And, if any man shall take away | 1 Peter 2:1-25
from the words of this prophecy, God | Zec. 8:16,17
shall take away his name OUT of the | Pro. 3:29,30
Lamb's Book of Life, and from the things |
in prophecy." |
|
Now that's fearful. That means the book | 4. Orderings.
is not to be messed with or pranked with |
by anybody who would dare, think, that |
they, can by speculation, or private |
opinions, unlock the mysteries of the | Rev. 22:10...
seals and what they contain. Remember |
the events of the 7th seal, contained | "Seal not the sayings of
from the 7th chapter on -- the trumpets | the prophecy of this book"
and the information thereof, just as the |
6th seal contains information thereof. |
|
Well then, what must be hereafter, after | 5. Hereafter.
John's day? A revelation of who? Who |
gave it to him? Who only can reveal it, |
(Revelation 22)? Who's going to come? | Rev. 22:12,17,20
What's he going to bring, his reward? | Rev. 22:12
What is his reward? Is it true in Isaiah | Isa. 62:11 40:10
40 & 41 that, He's going to come with a |
strong hand? Who is the "Behold my ser- | Isa. 42:1 40:10+
vant, whom I uphold?" What do these |
things mean? |
| G. The First Seal.
|
Well, we know in the 1st seal, that | 1. Rider on the White Horse.
Christ opens it and we hear the noise of | Rev. 6:1-2
thunder. One of the 4 beasts says, "Come |
and see." And behold a white horse. "He |
that sat upon him had a bow; [and] a | Zec. 9:13
crown was given unto him: and he went |
forth conquering, and to conquer." |
|
Well, in order to understand this seal, | 2. Christ's Secret.
we have to find out a secret about |
Christ. * In the counsel to the church | * <tape off & on>
of Philadelphia, we see Christ addresses |
that church in chapter 3 of Revelation, |
with this message: "And to the angel of | Rev. 3:7
the church of Philadelphia write; These |
things saith he that is holy ... he that |
hath the key of David, he that openeth, |
and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and |
no man openeth." |
|
Well, what does he mean to this church, | 3. Key to the Door.
"I ... set before thee an open door, and | Rev. 3:8
no man can shut it: for thou hast a lit- |
tle strength?" What could this mean? |
What is the Key-of-David? Isaiah 22 | Isa. 22:20
talks about the Key-of-David, but it re- |
fers to "Eliakim." But still, what is |
the Key-of-David? |
|
Well, of ancient times, Christ being the | 4. God's Chosen King.
root and offspring of David. David was a | 2 Sam. 7
great king in Israel. And David was | (God's covenant with David)
anointed of God, being a shepherd lad. |
But through the power of God he was able | 1 Sam. 17
to overthrow, the greatest obstacle in |
his day, Goliath, the Philistine. sing |
5 smooth stones, he chose one, and it | Zec. 9:15,16
sunk deep into the forehead of the giant.|
|
Well, what happens is this. We see that | 5. Psalms Record.
this David wrote 150 Psalms that are | Luke 24:44...
published in most Bibles of today's | establishes correlation
modern world. Now I say that because | - Law of Moses
some scholars will agree, that there are | - The Prophets
other psalms, too. But as far as the | - Psalms
King James, and the books of that cali- |
ber, we have 150 psalms. |
|
Well, our subject is the 1st seal. We | 6. Prophet's Account.
don't want to have any opinions, though. | Mat. 7:12
We just want to simply... see if we |
can't find the mystery of God in the |
prophets. |
|
| H. The 1st Seal in Light of
| The 45th Psalm.
|
Well, let's turn in our Bible to Psalm | 1. God's writing.
45, and let's see if we can't get some |
kind of hint in regards to what the 1st |
seal is. * It states here (this is the | * <tape off and on>
King James Version) -- "my heart is | Psa. 45:1
inditing a good matter. I speak of the |
things which I have made, touching the |
king." What could it possibly mean? What |
does it mean, "my heart is inditing a | "indite" (rhet.) -- to write
good matter?" Does that mean "my heart | down (a poem, speech, etc.)
is inditing a good matter?" Is some- |
body's heart inditing a good matter? | Heb. 8:10 10:16
"I speak of things I have made touching |
the king." Does that mean by interpre- | Is this about God's Law (His
tation "I speak of the things I have | righteousness), written in
made touching the king?" Is our subject | our own hearts and minds (as
about a king? Is our subject about some- | a new covenant)? Writing as
body's heart? Is our subject about "my | in Speaking The Word -- a
tongue is the pen of a ready writer?" | new "Living God" being born?
|
Now, who is talking here? Well, natural- | 2. David Anticipates.
ly David of Old is talking here -- cor- |
rect? Well, who is the king he's talking |
about? Solomon?? Well, let's see. "Thou | Psa. 45:2
art fairer than the children of men: | (also compare Psa. 72)
grace is poured into thy lips: therefore |
God has blessed thee for ever." Well, |
Solomon was a wise man wasn't he? Ok, it |
says here, "Gird thy sword upon thy | Psa. 45:3
thigh, O most mighty, [] with thy glory |
and thy majesty." "And in thy majesty | Psa. 45:4
ride prosperously because of truth ..." |
|
I wonder what Solomon rides? Probably, | 3. Rider.
rides a horse, doesn't he? "...and meek- |
ness and righteousness; and thy right | Rev. 19:11
hand shall teach thee terrible things." |
Huh? I guess with a sword in you right |
hand, you could learn a lot of terrible |
things. Whoa (in verse 5), "Thine arrows | Psa. 45:5
are sharp in the heart of the King's |
enemies; whereby the people fall under |
thee." Hmmm. Solomon doesn't seem really |
like too nice of a guy. That is if |
you're enemy. |
|
But anyway, "Thy throne, O God, is for | 4. Thy Throne, Thy God.
.." (Huh? Wait a minute!) "Thy throne, | Psa. 45:6
O God is for ever and..." (Now, wait a |
minute.) Is David saying that Solomon is |
God? No, he's probably just saying that |
God is God. Huh. Well, why would a pro- |
phecy about Solomon have to do with |
God's throne? "Thy throne, O God, is for | Heb. 1:8
ever and ever: the sceptre of thy king- |
dom is a right sceptre. Though lovest | Psa. 45:7
righteousness, and hateth wickedness: |
therefore God, thy God..." (Wait a min- |
ute.) "...therefore God, thy God," what |
could this possibly mean? Who is what |
God? "Thy God, hath anointed thee with | Psa. 89:20
the oil of gladness above thy fellows." | Heb. 1:9
This is very strange, or is it? |
|
Well, let's look at it again a little | 5. Key to God's Heart.
closer. Scripture says that David was a | "again"
man after God's own heart. (Although | 1 Sam. 13:14
David transgressed, and that in no wise | Acts 13:22
is like God's Heart.) But nonetheless, |
David was a prophet, and he was in- |
spired. Could it be that David was used |
by God to write down God's messages that |
would one day be revealed by Christ? If | Recall Psa. 45:1:
Christ does have the Key-of-David, would | "My heart is inditing..."
he not be able to reveal -- the Heart of | "My tongue is the pen..."
God? |
|
God in heaven looks to be a Rock, does- | 6. The Law yields to Love.
n't he? `Oh hard rock God, right. God's | Rev. 4:3
long, God's hard...' but wait a minute. | Song lyrics perhaps??
Through Christ we can see that God is |
not as hard as you think he is. Look at | Rev. 4,5,6
God. Come up hither, in the light of | Keeping heart and mind
the judgment, and see the Father on the | on high.
throne. See the book in his right hand, |
and watch him give it to Christ, and |
watch him open the 1st seal. And let's |
see about this man on the white horse |
who has a crown and a bow. |
|
Now, God is the one who has written, "My | 7. From the Heart.
heart is inditing a good matter: I speak | Psa. 45:1
of things which I have made..." Is God a |
maker? Is he Creator? What does he want | Isa. 45:6-12,18
to talk about? [The] things he's made | When God talks things
touching the king. Who is the king? | happen, as in:
Could it be Christ? "My tongue is the | "Let there be light!"
pen of a ready writer." Did God write a | Rev. 19:15
book? Does God want to talk about His | Isa. 29:11-12,18
Son according to a Book? Well, what does | Rev. 21:27
God then think about His Son? |
|
"Thou art fairer than the children of | 8. Living Word.
men." Well, if that's what God thinks? | Psa. 45:2
Although, Isaiah 53 says, that they will | Isa. 53:2
see in him no beauty or desire him; God, |
nevertheless says, "He is fairer than | Gen. 2:7
the children of men." Why?! "Grace, is | John 1:1-5
poured into thy lips." Huh? I guess |
whatever Christ says, those who hear it, |
will find grace, won't they. Therefore, |
"God has blessed thee for ever." | All ye who heed the Word.
|
Well. "Gird thy sword upon thy thigh, O | 9. Inheritance.
most mighty." Is Christ the most mighty? | Psa. 45:3 Eph. 1:17-23
"With thy glory and thy majesty," I mean | Isa. 2:21
it seems like in Revelation all of Heav- |
en bowed before the Lamb, did they not? |
That's a lot of glory. "For thou were | Rev. 5:12,13
slain to receive power, honour, glory, | Rev. 7:9-12
riches, wisdom, kingdom, might," Oooh! |
That's a lot of inheritance there. Espe- |
cially in the Gospel when it says, "I | John 3:35
have received all * things from my | * < cell phone rings>
Father. | John 13:3 Mark 28:18
|
"And in thy majesty ride prosperously | 10. White Horse or Red Herring?
because of truth." * So what could this | Psa. 45:4
truth be? What truth, in the Bible talks | * <tape off & on>
about riding a horse prosperously, and |
its truth? Could it be Revelation? Could | Rev. 6:2 ??
it be the 1st seal? Maybe a truth about | Rev. 19:11
Christ? Maybe a truth about him being a | Rev. 19:12
king, (which is a crown)? Could it be a |
truth, about him having a horse, riding, |
conquering, and to conqueror? Huh. | Christ or anti-christ??
|
So because of truth, the truth of God's | 11. God's Spirit Indwelling.
Book, the heart intention of He's indit- | 2 Cor. 3:2-3
ed. His tongue is the pen of a ready |
writer. And he doesn't say nothing in | God's actions.
the judgement. You see, He just gives it |
to the Lamb. And, you know the Lamb: | Rev. 19:13-16,21
rides prosperously; writes in truth, in |
meekness and righteousness, "And thy | Isa. 35:5,8,16,17
right hand shall teach thee terrible |
things." Oooh. Well, what's that in his | Rev. 5:1
right hand -- a sword or a book? | Heb. 4:12-14
|
Well, what does this book teach? `My ar- | 12. Raised from the Dead.
rows are sharp in the heart of the kings | Psa. 45:5
enemies.' Surely, Solomon... was he a |
killer? Did he kill for God? Christ, is | David's heirs.
he a killer? Did he kill for God? Will | Eph. 1:17-18,19-23 2:3
Christ ever destroy the wicked, whereby | Which is his body, the
the people fall under the <garble>? | Church, of those previ-
What kind of gospel is this? | ously dead in sin.
|
"Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever:| 13. Throne.
Is Christ God? "The sceptre of thy king- | Psa. 45:6
dom is a right sceptre." I mean, does he | Heb. 1:8
deserve to rule? Why? |
|
Does he love righteousness and hate wick-| 14. Made Glad.
edness? Therefore God... is not Christ's | Psa. 45:7
God... thy God? Is not his God -- the | Heb. 1:9
Father? Is he not going to anoint him |
above (with oil of gladness) above his | Isa. 61:3
fellows? What is this oil of gladness? | Psa. 89:20
|
"All thy garments smell of myrrh, and | 15. Garments.
aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory | Psa. 45:8
palaces," what about it made thee glad? |
I mean, should Christ ever be made glad? | Eph. 5:24,30-32
Where's this at? When's this take place? | Do you hear wedding bells?
|
"Kings' daughters were among the honour- | 16. Daughters.
able women." What's that? "Upon thy | Psa. 45:9
right hand did stand the queen in gold | def. "Ophir" -- (red dust?)
of Ophir. "How can this be Christ? | Solomon's gold from
Christ is God. What would he be doing | this region in Arabia?
with a woman? Well, maybe she's the | Rev. 12
church. Maybe she's the spiritual | Rev. 1:20
church. Well, who's the king's daughters | Eph. 2:13-22
then? Hmmm. Maybe there's more than one | "Builded together for an
church. | habitation of God through
| the Spirit."
|
Well, whatever it may be, we know in | 17. Bride Considers Proposal.
verse 10, whether it's a spiritual | Psa. 45:10
church, or a literal woman, there's one |
thing required. "Hearken, O daughter, |
and consider..." Consider what? Consider | "Think" about it.
God's heart inditing in good matter. |
Consider Who the King is. Consider who's |
going to be the Powerful One. Who's go- |
ing to win, considering about the Throne |
of God. Considering maybe Revelation -- | Is God's Book a mystery??
who the Father gives The Book to. | Eph. 5:32
|
"Incline thine ear; forget also thine | 18. Breaking Ties.
own people, and thy father's house." | Psa. 45:10 continued
Well, if this was a spiritual church, it |
would seem kind of funny, for God to | Eph. 3:1-4,9-11 1 Pet. 3:22
tell the spiritual church, to forget her |
own people, (which would be her denomi- |
nation of the Father's house), which |
would be..., well I thought her father | Eph. 5:6-8
would be God, if it were spiritual? | Col. 3:6
|
Now, if it were a literal girl, "Hear- | 19. New Name.
ken, O daughter ... consider ... incline | Psa. 45:10 cont.
thine ear;" then we can understand na- | "listen"
turally. If a girl is going to marry a | Isa. 62:5
man, she has to uproot [from] one family,| Mat. 19:4-6 Mar. 10:7
and join to another. Not completely, but | Mat. 19:29
we understand what we're saying. So if | "learn"
she wants to listen and learn; so should | Psa. 45:11
"the king greatly desire thy beauty: for | Eph. 5:23
he is thy Lord, and worship thou him." |
|
"And the daughter of Tyre shall be there | 20. Radiant Beauty.
with a gift." Who's Tyre? Wonder what | Psa. 45:12 (Zep. 2:15)
that is? "Even the rich among the people | def. "Tyre" -- (rock)
shall intreat thy favour." Rich people | city now Sur, Lebanon
want to intreat the favor of this queen? | Eze. 28 (and 26 & 27)
"The king's daughter is all glorious | Psa. 45:13
within." How did she become the king's |
daughter? "Within?" Why is she glorious |
within? Does she have a truth, or some- | Isa. 62:1-2
thin'? Is there some kind of light she |
has within her? |
|
Her clothes are of "wrought gold." She | 21. Prospect of Children.
is to be brought to the king in raiment | Psa. 45:14 (cf. Eze. 16:10)
of needlework: "the virgins her compan- | Isa. 61:10
ions that follow her shall be brought | Mat. 25:1-13
unto thee." With gladness and rejoicing | Psa. 45:15
shall they be brought. They should enter |
into the king's palace." Instead of thy |
fathers, it shall be thy children." Now, | Psa. 45:16
what does that mean? |
|
Well, let's break this down. If Christ | 22. Children for God.
is the Son of God, if that's the case, | Heb. 2:1
and if we all are sons of God -- if we | 2 Cor. 6:16-18
believe in Christ, then naturally every | Hos. 1:10
girl would be a daughter of God wouldn't |
she? Well, we look up to the Father on |
the Throne, of which we want to exalt. |
We know that He is greater than all. And |
He's Christ's Father, and He's also |
everyones Father. And Psalms 83 says, | Psa. 82:6 (should be)
God says, I say you are gods, "and all |
of you are children of the most High." |
|
Hosea teaches us, that we're to say, "Ye | 23. King and Law.
are not my people." There it should be | Hos. 1:9,10 2:23
said, "Ye are the sons of the living |
God." So Christ says in the Gospels, "if | John 10:35
he called them gods, unto whom the word |
of God came," the Law can not be broken. |
|
Well, we're ruining God's Word -- it's | 24. Word and Spirit.
God's Spirit. This is what makes us | Eph. 6:17 Rev. 1:16 19:15
become born again, born by the Spirit, | 1 Pet. 1:22-23
the knowledge of God. Well... so, a girl |
believes in God, and so does everybody |
else that believes in God. So therefore |
God the Father has many children doesn't |
He. Christ being the firstborn, and ... | Col. 1:18
all thereafter that believe. But instead |
of "thy fathers," it should be "thy chil-| Psa. 45:16
dren, whom thou mayest make princes in |
all the earth." |
|
To the person that really doesn't under- | 25. Birth of Human Spirit.
stand Scripture, this would seem to be |
a very controversial subject. I mean, |
Christ never had any wife, [thus it] has | Historically, that is.
to be Spiritual. I'll make thy name "re- | Psa. 45:17 Psa. 72:17
membered in all generations: therefore |
shall the people praise thee for ever |
and ever." |
== < end of part 3 of 4 > ==
Koresh Text from 3-02 (part 4 of 4) | Analysts' Notes jst/sdt
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| I. The 1st Seal in the Light
| of Revelation 19.
|
Well even if it is Spiritual we know one | 1. Triangulation.
thing. We know -- that the servants of |
God know -- that Psalm 45, is the very |
prophecy which must be hereafter accord- |
ing to the 1st seal. But just to make |
sure we know it's going to be fulfilled, |
let's turn in our Bible to REVELATION | Yep. It's a sermon.
19. (Just so that we can get a better |
caption of what we are really looking |
at.) |
|
Now remember, in the 18th chapter of | 2. Babylon "The Great."
Revelation, we know that Babylon the | Rev. 18
Great falls. She made all nations drink | Eze. 26,27,28
of some kind of wine of the wrath of her | Isa. 13:19-20
fornication. Now, we find that something |
very bad happens, and then in verse 23 |
of Chapter 18 -- no more: light of the | Rev. 18:23
candles shall shine there, nor the voice | Isa. 23:8
of the bridegroom, nor the voice of the | Eze. 26,27,28
bride. |
|
Well, the merchants, who are the great | 3. "Great Men" of the Earth.
men of the earth, it says in verse 23, | Rev. 18:23 cont.
and for by their sorceries were all the | Zep. 1:10-11
nations deceived. We all know about -- |
capitalization. We know about advertise- | Amos 8:4-7
ment selling something, making it better |
than what it really is. For here is | Rev. 18:24
found the blood of prophets, and saints, | Hos. 12:7
"and of all that were slain upon the |
earth." You see, just because people |
don't accept the truth from God's Word |
does not mean it's not Truth? And some |
truth that we might teach can get us in | Such as, truth without love.
trouble. |
|
But anyway, in 1st verse, Chapter 19, it | 4. The Gallery Cheers.
says, and "after these things I heard a | Rev. 19:1
great voice of much people in heaven, |
saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, |
and honour, and power, unto the Lord our |
God." Why? "For true and righteous are | Rev. 19:2
his judgments." I wonder what his judg- |
ments were? |
|
Isaiah 51 talked about judgments of God. | 5. Righteous Judgment.
Says something about, "HEARKEN to me, ye | Isa. 51:1
that seek after righteousness, ye that |
seek the LORD: look unto the rock where- |
by you're hewn." Again, remember in | Rev. 4:3
Revelation -- God's a rock. If God is a | Deu. 32:31
rock, he's the only one who can make us | 1 Sam. 2:2
new, right? And it says, "look to the | 2 Sam. 22:2,32
[hole of the] pit," from which you're | Psa. 18:2,31 28:1 42:9
dug. | Psa. 62:2,6 71:3 78:35
| 1 Cor. 10:4
|
In Isaiah 51, it talks about Abraham and | 6. A Living Law.
promises of God. Then it says, "Hearken | Isa. 51:2-3
unto me, my people; and give ear unto me,| Isa. 51:4
O my nation: for a law shall proceed |
from me, and I will make my judgment to |
rest for a light [of] the people." | Koresh says "to."
|
Now, we know that [what] the Law of God | 7. Forgive Them.
commands is the 10 Commandments, but we |
know when God sent His Son into the |
world, he was the Law made flesh. And | Gal. 3:17
although he kept the law perfectly; |
nonetheless, he also forgave based on |
men's ignorance. "Father, forgive them | Luke 23:34 1 Cor. 2:8
for they know not what they do." But he |
also committed his Spirit into the hands | Luke 23:46
of God, so that none would be without | Psa. 31:5 1 Pet. 2:23
excuse. |
|
We all know on the right hand of God | 8. The Whore is Judged.
there's more light... more light, to | Not just thunderbolts.
be known. So if God's judgments -- which | Rev. 16:all (note :5,7)
are the 7 seals -- are righteous and |
true... 'cause he judges the great whore.| Rev. 16:19 & Rev. 17
(Which no doubt a whore is not a very |
faithful bride, is she? Absolutely not!) |
"Which did corrupt the earth with her | Rev. 19:2 17:2
fornication, and hath avenged the blood |
of his servants at her hand?" It seems |
like this great whore doesn't really com-|
mit itself to God, herself to God, does |
she? And, she probably will be responsi- |
ble for the blood of God's servants, |
because she probably won't know where | Or care, preferring vain
they're coming from. | imaginings.
|
"And again they said, Alleluia. And | 9. Do You Care?
[her] smoke rose up for ever and ever." | Rev. 19:3 (cf. 14:11)
So, we know Babylon-The-Great is a big | Isa. 34:10
whore, right? I mean, she's not really |
very faithful, when it comes to God's |
Word, when it comes to knowing God's |
Truth. And I betcha she's the kind of |
person that'll claim to be with a guy, |
and love a guy, and not even know where |
he's coming from -- that's how most |
whores are, isn't it? Just think of how | Isa. 35:16,17
many people claim they love Jesus Christ,| Mal. 3:16
and that there is ... they don't even |
know where the seals are found in the |
prophecies. Huhhh. I wonder what that |
could mean? |
|
"And the four and twenty elders and the | 10. Prophets and Apostles.
four beasts fell down and worshipped God"| Rev. 19:4
who sat upon the Throne. And a voice | Rev. 19:5
came in heaven, verse 5 says, "Praise |
our God." How many? "All ye his ser- |
vants, and ye that fear him, both small |
and great." |
|
"[And I] heard as it were the voice of a | 11. Alleluia.
great multitude, and [as] the voice of | Rev. 19:6
many waters, and as the voice of mighty |
thunderings saying, Alleluia: for the |
Lord God Omnipotent reigneth." (All Pow- |
erful reigns!) |
|
"Let us be glad and rejoice, and give | 12. The Marriage of the Lamb.
honor to him: for the marriage of the | Rev. 19:7
Lamb", (which we learned about in Psalm | Psa. 45:15
45), "is come." So here we see that in | Rom. 7:4
Psalm 45, the Lamb only has to destroy | Hos. 2:18-23
his enemies. And who are his enemies? | Rev. 19:15,21
Those who do not believe the Word of God.|
|
Now, if a person never had a chance to | 13. Mitigating Circumstances.
know -- you've got to forgive 'em -- for | Luke 23:34
they don't know what they do. But should | Mat. 5:44-45
anybody dare try to go against the Truth |
of God, and try to hurt Christ, because | Rev. 22:11
they know not, and refuse to know, well | Who of us can judge?
then, we're talking somethin' serious. | Who's worthy?
|
"Let us be glad [and rejoice,] and give | 14. Getting Ready.
honour to him: for the marriage of the | Rev. 19:7
Lamb is come, and his wife has made | Rom. 7:4
herself ready." How do you think that |
girl in Psalms 45 made herself ready? Do | By putting on the gown?
you think she made herself ready by deny-|
ing God on the throne? By denying the |
importance of the Lamb opening the 1st |
seal? Do you think she made herself |
ready by denying that Christ had a Key- |
of-David? Well, if so then Psalms 45 |
wouldn't mean nothing to her, would it? |
|
But anyway, it says, to her it was gran- | 15. White Bridal Gown.
ted "that she should be arrayed in fine | Rev. 19:8
linen, clean and white: for the fine lin-| Psa. 132:9
en is the righteousness of the saints." | Isa. 55:7-9
|
My friends, are you right? Are you | 16. Marriage Proposal.
right? Don't worry bout me. Are you |
right? Does your Father sit on a throne? | Koresh Pops
Does He have a Book in his hand? Did He | the Question.
give it to the One you say you love? Was |
the promise that I come, and my reward |
is with me, was that not true? For | John 3:16
someone "that so loved the world, that | Rom. 5:8
he gave his only begotten Son," do you | 1 John 4:7-21
not believe God's Heart indites a good | 1 John 4:1,2
matter? |
|
The question of the judgment is not | 17. Is Conqueror also Groom??
who's done wrong, or who's done evil. | Koresh's method for
The question is, "Who is Worthy?" Now, | examining scripture.
Christ doesn't come to be worthy above |
you. Christ comes to give you his knowl- |
edge, his righteousness. And is it not | Does what you see in the
right that Psalms 45 is the same as the | 1st seal depend on whether
1st seal? Is not Revelation 19 confirm- | YOU personally are seeking
ing this? | out Christ, or anti-christ?
|
Well, if she has the righteousness of | 18. Arriving at the Truth.
saints, we as saints, should we not know |
rightly how to divide the Word of God... |
(line upon line, precept on precept; to | Isa. 28:10,13
see here, there; and a little here, and | Isa. 34:16,17
there a little.) ...the Truth of God? | 1 Cor. 2:1-16
|
He said, "Write, Blessed are they which | 19. Marriage Supper.
are called unto the marriage supper of | Rev. 19:9
the Lamb. And he said unto me, These are |
the true sayings of God." Well, some |
people may not think so. |
|
But now notice how John wanted to fall | 20. The Testimony is The Spirit.
down and worship before the feet of the | Rev. 19:10
angel which showed him these things? He |
said, "See thou do it not" for "I am thy | Same as Rev. 22:8,9 except:
fellowservant, and of thy brethren..that | "... the prophets, and of
have the testimony of Jesus: worship | them which keep the sayings
God: for the testimony of Jesus is the | of book: worship God."
spirit of Prophecy." |
|
What do yo want to do? Do you want to | 21. What are You Looking For?
learn about the wrath of Christ by him |
riding a white horse into heaven and | Phi. 1:14-19
destroying the unbelievers? Or would you | Are not "bonds" also "seals"
rather him just come, and teach you | Phi. 2:1-11
these things ahead of time? |
|
And John saw, "heaven opened, and behold | 22. Who Gives You Knowledge?
a white horse; and he that sat upon him | Rev. 19:11
was called Faithful and True, and in |
righteousness he doth judge and make |
war." He doesn't do it out of unrigh- |
teousness. There's a truth that's almost |
2,000 years old called the Revelation. |
And men have built up empires, and chur- |
ches, all in the name of Christ. But |
have they given to their people the |
knowledge of which only the Lamb can |
give? No. |
|
"His eyes were as a flame of fire," the | 23. The Nature of Truth.
way he sees with 7 eyes -- really burns. | Rev. 19:12
"And on his head were many crowns." He |
takes those from the kings of the Earth, | Rev. 4:10,11 21:24
you know. And he "had a name written, |
that no man knew, but he himself." |
|
People don't understand what the name | 24. The Meaning of Koresh.
Koresh means. No one knows. Scholars can | "Cyrus" is the Persian name
not tell you. Look at all the concor- | for the sun, and in Hebrew
dances, and they don't know. But it's | is "Koresh," which is the
found in Isaiah 45. It was originally a | same as the Egyptian "Phrah"
name given to a Persian king, who over- | Isa. 45:1+
threw ancient Babylon. But there's a | Rev. 10:1,7
mystery to the name Koresh. He was |
"clothed with a vesture dipped in blood,"| Rev. 19:13
because people don't like to learn the | Gen. 37:31
truth that's not out of their own head. |
"And his name is called The Word of God."| John 1:1 1 John 5:7
|
That's why so many times Christ has to | 25. The Word Paves the Way.
be rejected. For people know not the | If the prophets were all killed,
Word of God, and without knowing the | their very blood would cry out
Word of God -- The Book -- they'll not | from the rocks of earth to give
know the seals. Without knowing the | the testimony of the Spirit of
seals, they'll do unto Christ, fulfil- | prophecy -- had we not The Word.
ling, (Isaiah.. excuse me), Matthew 24, | Mat. 23:34,35 24:28
where the carcass is, "there will the | Heb. 11:4
eagles be gathered together." | Which speaks volumes to
| patriots.
|
Why? Because Isaiah says he'll come with | 26. The Sealed Book is the Word.
a strong hand, and what's stronger than | Job 39:27-30
that book of seven seals? That's the | Isa. 11 18 40
Word of God, fulfilling what it says in | John 7:16-18 12:44-49
John: He that believeth on me, believeth | Rev. 5:7 shows the Lamb
not on me, but on him that sent me. "For | takes the Book out of
my doctrine is not my own, but his that | God's strong right hand
sent me." "And the armies" which are "in | -- the hand of power.
heaven followed him upon white horses." | Rev. 19:14
There -- that's the Armageddon here -- |
clothed in fine linen, white and clean. | And written in black & white
|
Now, Isaiah 13 will tell you more de- | J. Other Testimony.
tail. Just like in Joel 2. You'll also |
learn in Joel 2, as well as Zephaniah, |
and Amos, and Hosea, all the different |
prophecies referring to these seals. |
|
| K. Unlocking the Psalms.
|
Now let me emphasize something to you | 1. A Key-of-David.
again, when you read Psalms 1, always | Psa. 1:5
keep your mind up-hither -- remember -- | In other words, "on high,"
I'm giving you a Key-of-David now. | -- look first always for
| for God.
|
I'll share with you. Every time you read | 2. Revelations and Psalms.
a psalm, like in Psalms 1, the judgment |
is the one spoken of in Revelation 4 and |
5. When you read Psalms 2, `the heathen | Psa. 2:1
that rage, that imagine vain things,' |
they're the ones whose thoughts are con- |
trary to the thoughts of God. "Against | Psa. 2:2
the Lord, and against his anointed, say- |
ing, Let us break their bands asunder | Psa. 2:3
and cast their cords from us." |
|
You see, when the Lamb comes again, | 3. Breaking the Bands.
there's only one way to know who he is, | What's important is that
he has to reveal the 7 seals. `That men | the Lamb knows you.
may not be judged by the law, for all | Rom. 3:23
have broken the law and come short of | Gal. 3:21-29
glory of God.' That they be might be |
judged by nothing more than Truth. |
|
'Cause, notice in Psalms 2, `the heathen | 4. God Judges the Nations.
rage, and they imagine a vain thing.' | Psa. 2:1-3
They want to stop this anointed one; | <tape off & on>
`let us break his bands asunder.' What |
do you think that is? How many bands are |
there on the book? There are seven bands |
on the book. Why this is happening today,| A seal is also a vow.
and He that sits in heaven, (that's the |
Father you know), sitting on the Throne, |
He laughs. He laughs while men begin to | Psa. 2:4
make the worst mistake they've ever made.|
All the nations, from Babylon, to Persia,| Psa. 2:5
Greece, and Rome, were judged by a judg- |
ment, and they fell when it became time |
for God to make them fall. |
Now, yes, in Psalms 2 it says, "I will | 5. Children of God.
declare the decree: the Lord hath said | Psa. 2:7
unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have |
I begotten thee." Well, aren't we all |
sons of God if we hear the words of God? |
|
Now, the Psalms are not written because | 6. Warnings of Psalms.
Christ is desiring to destroy mankind. |
On the contrary. The warnings of Psalms |
1, in the light of the Judgment, is so |
that men might fear, and receive redemp- |
tion. The same is Psalms 2. Absolute |
terrible warnings are given, such as, `I | Psa. 2:8-9
will dash them to pieces with a rod of |
iron,' right? We know that Christ would |
never want to do that. |
|
But, finally, it comes to a time when | 7. The Time for Judgment.
judgment must begin. Clearly, it says |
`Now therefore be ye wise, ye kings of | Psa. 2:10
the earth, be instructed ye judges of |
the earth. "Serve the Lord with fear, | Psa. 2:11
rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, | Psa. 2:12
lest he be angry, and ye perish from the |
way, when his wrath is kindled but a |
little. Blessed are all they that put |
their trust in him." |
|
Now, ministers should show you where the | 8. The High Road.
seals are. I have just given you a small | There do seem to be alter-
little taste. Is Psalms 45 the same as | nate views of the same
Revelation? Doesn't that make it plain? | events; other writings of
It's the subject of Christ getting mar- | the Prophets & Apostle's
ried [and] a subject of Christ having to | likewise.
deal with the enemies, (who believe not | Psa. 1:1-5
God's Word). Does not Psalms 1 teach us |
to stand in the Judgment, don't sit in | As in standing
the seat of the scornful, or of the sin- | to be married.
ners? |
|
Only God's thoughts are holy. And when | 9. God's Thoughts.
God's thoughts be revealed in the seven | "God's thoughts" are only
seals, all true Christians should make | a partial aspect of God,
that their first and foremost interest. | better is to love God,
| (speaking as a child).
|
In Psalms 2, why do the heathen have to | 10. Heathen Rage.
rage, why do they have to fight the guy | Psa. 2:1-3
that's got the seals? | Isn't God's Word more
| important than the seals?
|
In Psalms 3, who's the person there that | 11. Many Say No Hope.
says, `Many say of my soul there's no | Psa. 3:2
help for him in God.' | Historically, it's King
| David, as he fled from
| his son Absalom.
|
How come people have to judge according | 12. Looking Beyond the Image.
to appearances of things, but they won't | There do seem to be mul-
open their eyes and ears, and hear where | tiple levels of meaning.
a person's coming from? In Psalms 4, who |
is the one speaking there where it says, |
`O ye sons of men, how long will ye turn | Psa. 4:2
my glory into shame? how long will you | It does seem to be a
seek after leasing, and love vanity?' | dialogue between David
| and God.
|
"But know that the LORD has set apart | 13. Set Apart.
him that is godly for himself: the LORD | Psa. 4:3
will hear when I call unto him." Who in |
the heavens has God separated from all |
of heaven, (a part that is godly for him-| How 'bout The Word?
self). |
|
| III. Conclusions.
|
The Lamb, who wishes to judge no man af- | A. Keep the Word.
ter the flesh, but gives to all men a |
truth in fulfillment of the testimony of | The passage actually
John: that `If you continue in my doc- | says: If you continue
trine, then you are my disciples indeed, | in "my word"
and ye shall know the truth, and the | John 8:32
truth shall set you free.' |
|
In Zechariah, who is the man on the red | B. The Rest of the Seals.
horse? Doesn't Revelation talk about a | Zec. 1:8
man on a red horse? How does it apply? | Rev. 6:3-4
In the 3rd seal, the Book of Hosea, who |
is that merchant man with "the balances | Hos. 10:7
of deceit," that Hosea speaks of? Could | Mic. 6:11
it be that man who has balances -- who's |
trying to sell? I mean, what are we |
dealing with here? Where is the 4th seal |
found in the prophecies? The 5th seal? |
The 6th seal? |
|
The importance of the seals is that if | C. The Importance of the Seals.
you do not listen, you are going to end |
up making the worst mistake, you've ever |
made, in all of your lives. |
|
We made an agreement, with the ATF | D. ATF Promises
agents, that if they would allow me, to |
have national coverage with this tape, |
that I might give to the world a small |
minute... a small minute bit, of the |
information that I have tried so hard to |
share with people; that if I would do |
this, that all the people here at the |
facility ("compound" here, as y'all call |
it) will give ourselves over to the |
world, give ourselves out to you. And |
this is what I promised. And this is |
what we're going to keep. |
|
Now remember, Revelation Chapter 13 | E. Those of the Dragon.
tells us, very clearly what our ideology |
should be toward that beast, and all the |
world that wonders after that beast. Who |
do they worship? Remember, before I said |
it to you, God said it. They worship the |
dragon. And will Christ give up on any- |
body for worshipping the dragon unwill- |
ingly? No. Just like the woman at the | John 4:2
well. `Woman, you know not whom you wor- | The text actually refers
ship,' Christ told her. | to "what" -- not "whom.
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But now, in Spirit and in Truth, let's | F. Heavenly Perspective.
come up hither to where I come from. |
Let's believe in a God on the throne | God's not a "what."
now. All churches. Papacy, Lutherans, |
we're all brethren. But let's get into |
unity with one God, one Truth, one Lamb, | 1 Cor. 1:10
one Spirit -- and let's receive the |
reward of righteousness. |
| Analysts: Stephen Tice
Thank you very much. God Bless You. | James Trimm
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== < end of part 4 of 4 > == (Arlington Texas, 4-23-93)
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