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The Jesus of Christianity Vs The Jesus of Mormonism The Jesus WE KNOW contrasted to the "Jesus" of Mormonism. The one true Jesus of the BIBLE, of all eternity God the Son, who died that we may have eternal life; who paid the price of all sins; who has entered our lives and is walking with us in a personal relationship day by day -- is not known in Mormonism. The Jesus of Mormonism is an entirely different "Jesus". Let's examine what the leaders and prophets - the foundation of the Latter Day Saints Church - have said: "When the time came that His First-Born, the Saviour, should come into the world and take a tabernacle, the Father Himself came and favored the Spirit with a tabernacle instead of letting any other MAN do it. .... The Saviour was begotten by the Father of His spirit, by the same being who is the Father of our spirits, and that is all the organic difference between Jesus Christ and you and me." BRIGHAM YOUNG, Journal of Discourses, 4:218 "The fleshly body of Jesus required a Mother as well as a Father. Therefore, the Father and Mother of Jesus, according to the flesh, must have been associated together in the capacity of Husband and Wife; hence the Virgin Mary must have been, for the time being, the lawful wife of God the Father." ORSON PRATT, The Seer, pg 158 "Christ was begotten by an immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers --- And Christ was born into the world as the Literal Son of this Holy Being; He was born in the same personal, real, and literal sense that any mortal son is born of a mortal father. There is nothing figurative about his paternity; He was begotten, conceived and born in the normal and natural course of events, for He is the Son of God, and that designation means what it says." BRUCE R. McCONKIE, Mormon Doctrine, pg 547,742 Brigham Young, to be consistent with his "Adam-God" doctrine, believed Adam was the literal father of Jesus Christ: "When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten him in his own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the Father? He is the first of the human family ... Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the Garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven." BRIGHAM YOUNG, Journal of Discourses, 1:50,51 As is evident in these statements, there is no Virgin Birth in Mormonism. On the other hand, the Bible clearly shows us: Matthew 1:18 Mary with child of the Holy Spirit 1:20 That which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit 1:23 Behold a virgin shall conceive and bear a son Luke 1:35 The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you Further, the "Jesus" of Mormonism was married in polygamy and had children. This had to be so to be consistent with the doctrines of Joseph Smith, Junior. As Joseph reports as a "revelation" given him by God on July 12,1843: "I am the Lord thy God .. obey the instructions I am about to give unto you .. if ye abide not that covenant, then ye are damned; for no one can reject this covenant and be permitted to enter my Glory .. verily I say unto you, if man marry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and everlasting covenant .. they shall be gods .. And again, as pertaining to the law of the priesthood if any man espouses a virgin, and desire to espouse another, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then he is justified .. and if he have ten virgins given unto him by the law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him." JOSEPH SMITH, Doctrine & Covenants, 132:2,3,4,19,20,61,62 "It will be borne in mind that once on a time, there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee, and on a careful reading of that transaction, it will be discovered that no less a person than Jesus Christ was married on that occasion." ORSON HYDE, Journal of Discourses, 13:259 "How was it with Mary and Martha, and other women that followed Him? In old times, and it is common to this day, the women, even Sarah, called their husbands 'LORD' .. Jesus was the bridegroom at the marriage of Cana of Galilee .. We say it was Jesus Christ who was married, to be brought into relation whereby he could see his seed, before He was crucified .. I shall say here, that before the Saviour died, he looked upon His own natural children, as we look upon ours." ORSON HYDE, Journal of Discourses, 2:81,82 The Bible states that Jesus is God the Son -- eternally existent with God the Father -- yet Mormon doctrine says Jesus was a spirit offspring of the Father; that Lucifer was the second spirit offspring (THEY WERE BROTHERS?!); followed by billions more - or each of us, for instance. We are "brothers" and "sisters" of Jesus Christ. Jesus is not the only begotten Son in Mormon Theology: "It makes me think of that second person that came forth in the heavens when the voice went forth: 'Who will redeem the earth, who will go forth and make the sacrifice for the earth and all things it contains ?'. The Eldest son said: 'Here am I'; but he did not say 'send me'. But the second one, which was 'Lucifer, Son of the Morning', said, 'Lord, here am I, send me, I will redeem every son and daughter of Adam and Eve that lives on the earth." BRIGHAM YOUNG, Journal of Discourses, 13:282 "The appointment of Jesus to be Saviour of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God. He was called Lucifer, Son of the Morning .... this spirit brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Saviour of Mankind. MILTON R. HUNTER (First Council of 70) The Gospel Through the Ages, pg 15 [1958] "Jesus Christ is also of our species .. I have heard sectarian priest undertake to tell the character of the Son of God, and they make him half of one species and half of another, and I could not avoid thinking at once of a mule." BRIGHAM YOUNG, Journal of Discourses, 4:217 "There is no impropriety ... in speaking of Jesus Christ as the elder brother of the rest of human kind." JAMES TALMAGE, ARTICLES OF FAITH, pg 473 In Mormonism, Jesus was a created being: "Jesus is man's spiritual brother. We dwelt with Him in the spirit world as members of that large society of our eldest brother." MILTON R. HUNTER, Gospel Through the Ages, pg 21 "The devil is a spirit son of God who was born in the morning of pre-existence." BRUCE R. McCONKIE, Mormon Doctrine, "Devil", 1966 edition, pg 192 "There are three Gods - the Father, Son and Holy Ghost." BRUCE R. McCONKIE, Mormon Doctrine,"God", pg 317 The REAL JESUS, the ONLY Son of God and God the Son, is proclaimed throughout the BIBLE! Look up these references and tie-ins of Old and New testaments declaring Jesus' Divinity and NOT being created: LOOK UP and COMPARE WITH Psalm 24:10 I Corinthians 2:8 Psalm 45:6,7 Hebrews 1:8 Isaiah 8:13 I Peter 2:8 Isaiah 40:3 Matthew 3:3 Malachi 3:1 Matthew 11:10 Psalm 102:27 Hebrews 13:8 James 1:17 Psalm 102:25 Colossians 1:16 Psalm 102:26 Matthew 24:35 2 Peter 3:7,10 JOHN 1:1-3,14 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made ... And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the Glory as of the ONLY begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." COLOSSIANS 1:15 "Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature" [Here 'firstborn' does not mean first 'spirit-child', rather a position of high honor - see verse 18, Hebrews 12:23, revelation 1:5, and Psalm 89:27]. The next verses, 16 and 17, tell us, "For in Him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are on the earth ... All things were created by Him, and for Him: And He is before all things, and by Him all things consist." HEBREWS 1:10 "Thou, Lord (Jesus), in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of thine hands." In Isaiah 44:24 God tells us that He "stretched forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself." Jesus, who IS the TRUTH and God the Father "have no lies within them" and are INCAPABLE OF TELLING A LIE. Jesus is God the Son, eternally One with the Father and the Holy Spirit, and not be confused. God the Son is not God the Father and God the father is not God the Holy Spirit, but each entity is a part of the ONE TRUE AND LIVING GOD. ISAIAH 9:6 "For unto us a child is born ... his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, The Mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." MICAH 5:2 "Whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting." MATTHEW 28:18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, 'All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." PHILIPPIANS 2:6-10 "Who, being in the form of God, though it not robbery to be equal with God: ... was made in the likeness of men ... became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exaulted him ... That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow ....". Compare to Isaiah 45:22,23 for if Jesus is not God, then we worship two (or more) Gods! The Mormons, basically, do not worship Jesus, or pray to Him, only "through" Him.) COLOSSIANS 2:9 "For in Him dwelleth the fullness of the Godhead bodily" HEBREWS 1:3 "... The express image of His person ...." JOHN 5:23 "That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honoreth not the Son honoreth not the Father which hath sent Him." JOHN 20:28 "And Thomas answered and said unto Him, 'My Lord and my God'" Jesus used the same descriptions of himself; I AM, ALPHA and OMEGA, FIRST and LAST; as used by God the Father: JESUS SAYING GOD JOHN 8:58 I AM EXODUS 3:14,15 REV 22:13,16 ALPHA AND OMEGA REV 1:8 & 21:6 REV 1:17 REVELATION 21:6 2:8 FIRST AND LAST ISAIAH 44:6 22:13 48:12 Jesus is GOD the SON! Eternally God and not after, or created by, or a spirit child of God! Our Jesus is NOT the "Jesus" of Mormonism, and we are empowered, if we have accepted the true Jesus into our hearts, to give Thanks unto God for selecting us to reveal His True Son to us. HALLELUJAH and AMEN !!! Computers For Christ THE NATURE OF GOD There is but ONE GOD. The BIBLE states that there has been, and presently is, and always will be only ONE GOD. History and the BIBLE show that the Jewish people always believed in ONE GOD of the UNIVERSE. The Jewish nation; However, was lured, time and time again, into going after "other gods" that were worshipped by the people surrounding Israel. That was the sin GOD hated and punished them for practicing. (Jeremiah 2:11 11:9-13 19:13) In direct contrast, MORMONISM has a basic belief in many gods. The Father, Son and Holy Ghost (in Mormonism) are three separate gods. There were gods before them and will be gods to follow: "If we should take a million worlds like this and number their particles, we should find that there are more gods than there are particles of matter in those worlds." JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, Vol 2, page 345 [Feb 1855] Orson Pratt "Many men say there is one God; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are only one God. I say that is a strange God, anyhow - Three in one and one in three. It is a curious organization ... all are to be crammed into one God, according to sectarianism. It would make the biggest God in all the world ... he would be a giant or a monster." TEACHING OF THE PROPHET JOSEPH SMITH, page 372; HISTORY OF THE CHURCH, Vol 6, page 476 "In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods, and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it." JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, JOSEPH SMITH, Vol 6, page 5; HISTORY OF THE CHURCH, Vol 6, page 308 Mormons will say they worship only one God; But, whether they worship them or not, believing in the valid existence of many gods -- of the same authority and reality of the one God -- makes you a polytheist! False Prophets have always led the people of history (and the current peoples of the earth) to go after other gods (Deuteronomy 13:1 to 13). God's strongest wrath was then and is now upon people who worship or believe in other gods (Jeremiah 16:10 to 13 and 22:8 & 9). Mormonism teaches that "Father God" is married and has many wives: "In the heaven where our spirits were born, there are many Gods, each of whom has his own wife or wives, which were given to him previous to his redemption while yet in his mortal state." THE SEER, Orson Pratt, page 37 Look up John 10:34 used by Mormons to justify a belief in "many Gods". Jesus, there, is quoting Psalm 82 in which the judges were referred to as "gods" -- but were wicked and unjust and "die like all men". Anytime the word "gods" occur in the BIBLE it must be verified in context as referring to the idols, satanic princes or counterfeit gods - (Isaiah 41:23 and 24 and 45:20). IN CONTRAST The BIBLE states throughout there is but ONE GOD! Look up these verses: ISAIAH 43:10-11 "Before me NO god was formed, nor after" 44: 6-8 "I am the first and the last, beside me no other" 45: 5-6 "I am the Lord, and there is no other" 45:18-22 "HE created the heavens and earth-there is no other" DEUT 6:4 "Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord" 32:39 "There is no god beside me" PSALM 86:10 "Thou alone art God" MARK 12:29 "Jesus said, the Lord our God is one; no other" GAL 3:20 "God is one" JAMES 2:19 "You believe God is one - you do well" EPH 4:5-6 "One God and Father of us all" I COR 8:4-6 "There is no god but me" GOD IS INFINITE: The BIBLE states that God has always been the same from all time in eternity past and does not change. In direct opposition to this, the Mormon Church has the basic belief that God was once a man, with many gods before Him and many gods to come after Him. They further believe that God is progressing to higher levels of power and ability: "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens ... it is necessary that we should understand the character and being of God, and how He came to be so; for I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and will take away the veil, so that you may see ... he was once a man like us; yea, that God himself the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth the same as Jesus Christ did. "TEACHINGS OF THE PROPHET JOSEPH SMITH, page 345; JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES Vol 6, page 3; HISTORY OF THE CHURCH, Vol 6, page 305 "As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become." THE GOSPEL THROUGH THE AGES, Milton R. Hunter, pages 105 & 106 "Our Eternal Father has attained His position of exaltation and Godhood by obedience to the great law of progression ... was once a mortal man who passed through a school of earth-life similar to that which we are now passing." THE GOSPEL THROUGH THE AGES, Milton R. Hunter, pages 12 & 104 "Through modern revelations we learn that the universe is filled with vast numbers of intelligences, and we further learn that Elohim is God simply because all of these intelligences honor and sustain him as such --- But God acquired the honor and sustaining influence of 'all things'. It follows as a corrolary that if He should ever do anything to violate the confidence of 'sense of justice' of these intelligences, they would promptly withdraw their support, and the 'power' of God would disintegrate --- He would cease to be God. Our Heavenly Father can do only those things which the intelligences under Him are voluntarily willing to support Him in accomplishing." THE FIRST 2000 YEARS, W. Cleon Skousen *,pages 355,356 *=FREEMEN INSTITUTE PRESIDENT & B.Y.U. Professor Mormonism teaches that God is confined to a body of flesh and bones. He is at a particular place at a particular time. The Mormon "god" is a SMALL "god". You can have tremendous faith in a god - BUT, if that god is not THE GOD, then all that tremendous faith is meaningless. Elijah once challenged the priests of "another god" to start a fire, and the "god" who was able to do so would be recognized as THE GOD. The priests for this wooden idol, with great faith and efforts prayed and prayed to their god to bring down fire to prove his godhood. Elijah even became somewhat sarcastic when he asked a rhetorical question of "Maybe your god is asleep? Maybe you should cry out louder to wake him up?". After all these efforts, nothing happened! It didn't matter if the priest and believers of that "god" had a great faith because the OBJECT of that faith was incapable of fulfilling the promise of that faith. The ONE and TRUE GOD fulfills our prayers. "If God possesses a form, that form is of necessity of definite proportions, and therefore of limited extension and space. It is impossible for Him to occupy at one time more than one space of such limits." ARTICLES OF FAITH, James E. Talmage, pages 42 and 43 "I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other -'This is my Beloved Son. Hear Him!" PEARL OF GREAT PRICE, Joseph Smith 2:17 "The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's. DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS, 130, v:22 "God himself is increasing in knowledge, power, and dominion and will do so, worlds without end." JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES,Prophet Wilford Woodruff, Vol 6, Pg 120 "We were begotten by our Father in heaven; the person of our Father in Heaven was begotten on a previous heavenly world by His Father; and again, He was begotten by still a more ancient Father ...." THE SEER, Orson Pratt, Page 132 The BIBLE states throughout that GOD IS INFINITE! We ask that you look up these proofs: II CHRONICLES 6:18 "Heaven and the Heaven of Heavens cannot contain thee." PSALM 41:13 (90:2) "God is from everlasting to everlasting" PSALM 102:25-27 "created heavens, always the same without end" PSALM 139:4-8 "Omniscient and Omnipresent" JEREMIAH 23:24 "I fill heaven and earth" HOSEA 11:9 "I am God, and not man" MALACHI 4:39 "I do not change" NEHEMIAH 9:6 "made Heaven, Heaven of Heavens and all their host" PROVERBS 15:3 "His eyes in every place" ACTS 17:27 "He is not far from each of us" JOHN 4:24 "God is Spirit" LUKE 24:39 "A Spirit has not flesh and bones" HEBREWS 4:13 "All things opened unto His eyes" I JOHN 4:12 "No man has seen God at any time" I TIMOTHY 6:15 "No man has seen, nor can see ..." JOHN 1:18 "No man has seen God at any time" EXODUS 33:20 "There shall be no man see me and live" It is clear that the BIBLE refutes the Mormon church's claims and the claims of its prophets and leaders in a most specific manner. Brigham Young, second Prophet and President of the Mormon Church taught that ADAM was "our Father and our God...": "When our father Adam came into the Garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him ... He is our Father and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do ... When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten Him in His own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the Father? He is the first of the human family ...." JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, Vol 1, page 50, April 9,1852 "I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this people, and He is the God that pertains to this earth - the first man. That first man sent His own Son to redeem the world ..." JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, Vol 4, pg 1, June 29, 1856 Prophet & President Heber C. Kimball "How much unbelief exist in the minds of the Latter-Day Saints in regard to a particular doctrine which I revealed to them, and which God revealed to me -- namely, that Adam is our Father and our God ... Our Father, Adam helped to make this earth, it was created expressly for him ... He brought one of his wives with him, and she was called Eve ... Our Father Adam is the man who stands at the gate and holds the keys of everlasting life and salvation to all his children.." DESERET NEWS, June 18,1873: Discourse by Prophet and President Brigham Young Today, the Mormon Church adamantly denies the "ADAM-GOD" doctrine taught, and as seen above, and affirmed by "Prophet" Brigham Young. There is overwhelming evidence that he did teach, believed and strongly defended this belief. By any, reasonable, interpretation of the BIBLE, Brigham Young must be classified as a FALSE PROPHET (see Deuteronomy 13:1 to 10 and 18:20 to 22 - also Jeremiah 23:16 to 17) ADAM is not OUR god and NEVER will be! The BIBLE states: "... then the Lord God formed man of dust from the earth, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being." (Genesis 2:7) GOD is ONE and ETERNALLY the same. Creator of the Heavens and the Earth ... All powerful, all knowing, all present. Despite the fact that HE is INFINITE, he knows every hair on our heads and has a plan for each of our lives (John 3:16 & 10:10). It is far better to have a small faith in THE TRUE GOD of the universe than to have a great faith in a small, counterfeit god. One should keep in mind that faith in a "counterfeit" god is really no more than a misplaced faith in the false prophet and the teaching of a false Prophet. Remember - a counterfeit - to be called a counterfeit - must "resemble" the GENUINE item. If there are many "counterfeit" gods, then there must be a REAL GOD, and HE is found in the scriptures and in everything that surrounds us. Computers for Christ THE REAL HOLY SPIRIT In Mormonism the "Holy Ghost" is a personage, or a god, but the "Holy Spirit" is an impersonal force. The Mormons refer to verses that the Holy Spirit is symbolized by oil, fire and water and show that these are "impersonal". The Bible refers to the Father and the Son as "bread of life", "living water" and other "impersonal" terms. Again, we must look at the context. In John 16:7, our Lord is placing His emphasis on His going away and the Holy Spirit's being sent by the Father to replace our Lord himself. This change (or replacement), Jesus says, would be beneficial for His disciples. AN IMPERSONAL FORCE COULD HARDLY IMPROVE ON THE PERSONAL PRESENCE OF OUR LORD, JESUS CHRIST! The word in Hebrew and the word in Greek for SPIRIT and GHOST both mean the same, "breath or wind" and the "translators" of the King James Bible noted that the Greek word denoted a neuter gender and mistranslated to be an "IT", but they did utilize the word Ghost and Spirit and interchanged them on many occassions. The words as translated are from only ONE word in Hebrew and ONE word in Greek - therefore there are NOT two words for SPIRIT and GHOST - only ONE. Now, let's look at this ONE entity called the HOLY SPIRIT. In John 16:13 and 14 we see our Lord, Jesus telling us this about the Holy Spirit, "HE shall not speak of HIMSELF ... HE shall glorify me ... HE shall receive of mine ....". NOTE that our LORD gives PERSONALITY to the Spirit. Otherwise our Lord would have used the term that Mormons use "IT". Jesus repeatedly (John 16:7-15) uses the MASCULINE PERSONAL pronoun "He" when referring to the Spirit. Jesus used the term clearly to tell us that the Spirit had personality and intimacy. Ananias was struck dead for lying to the HOLY SPIRIT (Acts 5:3). You cannot lie to an impersonal force! It would be like walking up to a window box fan, turning it on and facing its "force" and then telling lie after lie to it - IT WOULD NOT CARE THE SLIGHTEST, WOULD IT? Now, you look at Ananias and, if you are not a complete idiot, you would not repeat his behavior, now would you? The Holy Spirit and the Holy Ghost are not two different items mentioned in the Bible. There is only one entity referred to as both HOLY GHOST and HOLY SPIRIT. The Holy Spirit is a person. The Spirit may be "grieved" (Ephesians 4:30) and "sinned against" by UNFORGIVABLE blasphemy (Mark 3:29). None of these things are possible for an "impersonal force". The Holy Ghost does things which only a person COULD do. He SPEAKS: "The Spirit said unto Philip, 'Go near'" (Acts 8:29) He STRIVES: "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever" (Genesis 6:3) - "The Spirit also helpeth our infirmity ... [and] MAKETH INTERCESSION for us." (Romans 8:26) He REVEALS, SEARCHES, and KNOWS: "But God hath revealed them unto us by His Spirit; for the Spirit searcheth all things ... the things of God knoweth no man but the Spirit of God" (I Corinthians 2:10,11). Other verses can be shown in which the Spirit IDENTIFIES with believers (Acts 15:28), The Spirit is ETERNAL (Hebrews 9:14), OMNIPRESENT (Psalm 139:7-10), DOES GOD'S WORK (Genesis 1:2), INVOLVED IN REGENERATION (John 3:8), participates in the RESURRECTION (Romans 8:11). Paul identifies the Spirit as the speaker to Isaiah. Acts 28:25-26 and Isaiah 6:8,9. An impersonal force does not counsel, speak, feel, or anything resembling personality. The HOLY SPIRIT is a person - one of the THREE ENTITIES of the ONE TRUE GOD. Computers For Christ MORMONISM'S "SALVATION BY WORKS" vs. SALVATION BY GRACE THROUGH CHRIST The entire BIBLE points in all directions to the cross. Upon it God's only begotten Son died that we might have eternal life from God. Only through Christ can this separation be bridged. On the other hand, MORMONISM points in all directions to the "Law of Eternal Progression". We have seen that Mormon doctrine states that God was once a man. He progressed to become God. The same law states that man may become God! Let's go to the authorities of the church and hear what they have said, first on the subject of man's pre-existence as a spirit in a "spirit world" prior to taking a body here on earth: DID WE PRE-EXIST? BRUCE R. McCONKIE (Apostle); MORMON DOCTRINE, page 589 "Pre-existence is the term commonly used to describe the pre-mortal existence of the spirit children of God the Father ... All men and women are in the similitude of the universal Father and Mother, and we are literally the sons and daughters of Deity; as spirits they were the offspring of celestial parentage ... Unless God the father was a personal Being, He could not have begotten spirits in His image, and if there had been no self- existent spirit element, there would have been no substance from which those spirit bodies could have been organized." The basis of the Mormon law of progression in Mormonism is that "intelligences" are eternal. On the other hand, God is not! He started as a spirit child in another 'spirit world' long ago; entered a body on another earth as a man; apparently was able to follow the law of progression perfectly; after death He became God in the 'celestial kingdom' of that other earth; brought (or was given) many wives; through sexual union in our spirit world had billions of spirit children : The first was Jesus, the second Lucifer, the third and on and on were to enter the earth as you and me. No organic difference in the parentage between us and Jesus and Lucifer! We all have the same literal "Heavenly Father". Note how those in Mormonism generally refer to Him as "Heavenly Father" -- they mean just that - LITERALLY!! Just remember that they could say also; "Heavenly GRANDFATHER", "Heavenly Great- Grandfather", and so on ...! MILTON R. HUNTER (1st Council of 70); GOSPEL THROUGH THE AGES; pages 127-129 (1958) "In the first stage, man was an eternally existent being termed an intelligence ... The next realm where man dwelt was the spirit world." According to Mormon concept eternally existing intelligences were clothed with spirit bodies in the mansion of their eternal Father... "numerous sons and daughters were begotten and born of heavenly parents into that eternal family in the spirit world ... There ... they were reared to maturity, becoming grown spirit men and women prior to coming upon this earth ... Following his stay in the spirit world, man comes to earth in a probationary state ... receives a physical body and undergoes the experiences of mortality .. Eventually; however, mortal death comes upon all. The eternal spirit goes to the spirit world to wait resurrection and judgement ... there they shall be assigned to the glory that they have merited ... Some will receive celestial glory; others terrestrial, while those who are recorded in the 'Lamb's Book of Life' will enter celestial glory. There some of them will become angels and others priests and kings, or, in other words, Gods." On page 12, Hunter states a basic "truth" of Mormonism, that God is subordinate to the law of eternal progression.: "Our Eternal Father has attained His position of exaltation and Godhood by obedience to the great law of progression." JOSEPH FIELDING SMITH; DOCTRINES OF SALVATION; Vol 1, pg 12 "The intelligent part of man was never created but always existed. That is true of each of us as well as it is of God, yet we are born sons and daughters of God in the spirit and are destined to exist forever. Those who become like God will also be from eternity to eternity." The BIBLE states explicitly that there are no intelligences co-eternal or co-existent with God. Anything that exists, other than God, is a "thing". COLOSSIANS 1:16-17 and JOHN 1:1-3 state that ONLY Jesus is co-eternal with God as the "WORD WAS GOD" (John 1:1). He is before all "things" and created all "things". His creation did not pre-exist Him! God knows the beginning and end of all things before they exist. There are several scriptures stating HE "knew" us before we were born. They do not imply we existed before we were born. "The burden of the word of the Lord of Israel, saith the Lord, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him." (ZECHARIAH 12:1) SALVATION BY GRACE VERSUS WORKS The BIBLE states over and over that we do not merit salvation (eternal life in God's presence) by our own goodness and system of good works from or for any organization. You need only to study the Old Testament and see the hopelessness of a system whereby man was to live within God's laws with the system of prophets - temples - priests and ordinances. The purpose of Jesus coming to earth to die for us was to make provision for our own inability to bridge this separation of man from God and brought a new covenant. If you choose Mormonism as your plan of salvation, you have regressed to the old covenant of the prophet, temple and ordinance which produce only "dead works" in an attempt to obtain righteousness on your own. If you trust the LDS church and its prophets; here is what is said: MILTON R. HUNTER; THE GOSPEL THROUGH THE AGES; pg 115 JOSEPH F. SMITH; TEACHINGS OF THE PROPHET JOSEPH SMITH; pg 348 "Thus all men who ascend to the glorious status of Godhood can do so only by one method - by obedience to all the principals and ordinances of the Gospel of Jesus Christ (another way of saying "Mormonism")... Men are saved no faster than they gain knowledge. The Prophet Joseph described the process of going toward Godhood as follows: When you climb a ladder, you must begin at the bottom, and ascend step by step, until you arrive at the top; and so it is with the principles of the Gospel - you must begin with the first, and go on until you learn all of the principles of exaltation. But it will be a great while after you have passed through the veil before you will have learned them." JAMES E. TALMAGE; ARTICLES OF FAITH; pg 480 "The sectarian dogma of justification by faith alone has exercised an influence for evil." II NEPHI 25:23 (BOOK OF MORMON) "For we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do." WHAT THE MORMONS THINK OF CHRIST LDS CHURCH TRACT; pg 32,46,47 "Christians speak often of the blood of Christ and its cleansing power. Much that is believed and taught on this subject, however, is utter nonsense and so palpably false that to believe it is to lose one's salvation. Many go so far, for instance, as to pretend, at least, to believe that if we confess Christ with our lips and avow that we accept Him as our personal Savior, we are thereby saved ... And no man can pick the fruit of eternal life off the branches, as these are tied to the vine, without accepting both Christ and His prophets ... If it had not been for Joseph Smith, the Prophet, the perfect knowledge of Christ would not be had in the world in this day. If it had not been for him and his mission there would be no legal administrators now on earth to administer in the ordinances of salvation." BRUCE R. McCONKIE; MORMON DOCTRINE; pgs 84 & 745 "The second birth begins when men are legally baptized in water by a legal administrator ... Those who receive the Gospel (Mormon Doctrine) and join the church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints have power given them to become sons of God." (Compare to John 1:12 -- "But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become sons of God..") BRUCE R. McCONKIE; MORMON DOCTRINE; pg 149 "Those things which men are directed to do to attain peace in this life and gain eternal life in the world to come are collectively called the commandments." BRUCE R. McCONKIE; MORMON DOCTRINE; preface to 1966 Edition; pg 118 "Man is saved no faster than he gains knowledge -- (See I Corinthians 1:17,20-23,2:1-5) -- To gain salvation after baptism it is necessary to keep the commandments of God and endure to the end ... The most important things that any member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints ever does in this world are: 1. To marry the right person, in the right place, by the right authority (Mormon Temple marriage); and 2. to keep the covenant made in connection with this holy and perfect order of matrimony - thus assuring the obedient persons of an inheritance of exaltation in the celestial kingdom." CHURCH NEWS-EDITORIAL; November 8,1975; page 16 "There is only one way to become sanctified and perfected, and thus prepared to live with God. That is by obedience to His laws. There is no other way ... When will we learn to obey him with all our heart, mind and strength? (Compare with Luke 10:27 - "Thou shalt love the Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind....") MILTON R. HUNTER, GOSPEL THROUGH THE AGES; pgs 118-120 "If men and women obey all the other laws of the gospel except that of celestial marriage (Mormon Temple Marriage), they are appointed angels ...." BENNET; WHY I AM A MORMON; pg 170 "Once we have been resurrected, it will be our own efforts, and not Christ's sacrifice, that will be the deciding factor ... A man can be saved only so fast as he gains knowledge of the laws of God." Prophets ... temples ... Obedience to the Law ... Aaronic Priest .. Legalisms ... Dependent on our own efforts and good works ... Sound familiar? Old Testament in a new wrapping? Wrapped in Christian terminology? Mormonism calls the unsuspecting back under what amounts to the old covenant. If righteousness could be obtained, earned or gained by our own efforts to be perfect under the law, there would have been no need for a "NEW" covenant. If all Christ's death meant was to conquer death - to pay for Adam's sin as Mormonism teaches - why are the following among the great number of God's words declaring the TRUTH of the NEW COVENANT of salvation through Christ, by faith, not works of the law. Look up these scriptures and review their full context: THE LAW AND WORKS DO NOT SAVE JOHN 6:28,29,39,40 ... What must we do to be doing the works of God? This is the work of God that you believe in Him whom He sent. ROMANS 3:21,22 ... No one is justified by the works of the law. Now righteousness of God is manifested apart from the Law. ROMANS 4:13-16 ... If it is adherents of the Law that are to be heirs, then faith is NULL and the promise void. ROMANS 7:4-6 ... Died to the Law through the body of Christ. Discharged from the law, dead to that which held us captive, so that we serve not under the old written code but in new life of the Spirit. ROMANS 8:1-4 ... God has done what the law could not do! ROMANS 9:30-32 ... Israel who pursued righteousness based on the law did not succeed. WHY? They did not pursue it through faith, but as if it were based on works. ROMANS 10:1-4 ... A zeal for God - but not enlightened. Seeking to establish their own righteousness. Christ is the end of the law. Romans 14:1-23 and Colossians 3:8-23 are clear refutations of the point made by Joseph Smith in "Words of Wisdom" to not drink and eat certain things is nothing more than MAN'S regulation and NOT from God. Read and see what God said through the Apostle Paul! GALATIANS 2:16 ... Man is not justified by works of the law but is through faith! GALATIANS 2:19-21 ... Died to the law, that I might live to God. I do not nullify the Grace of God; for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ is dead in vain. GALATIANS 3:10 ... As many as are under the works of the law are under the curse! GALATIANS 3:23-28 ... Before faith came, we were under the law - our schoolmaster (Custodian) until Christ came. Now that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. GALATIANS 5:18 ... If led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. II TIMOTHY 1:8-10 ... Who saved us, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace. TITUS 3:3-9 ... He saved us, not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy. Being justified by grace. HOW IS MAN (or WE ) SAVED ? If salvation is not by works of our own under the law and ordinances, HOW IS MAN SAVED? Just a few of the scriptures God has given us are: JOHN 3:1-18 ... YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN! In context Jesus, Himself, explains that, not only do we have a natural birth (Flesh) but a spiritual birth! "Whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life (ETERNAL)! ROMANS 5:1-11 ... Christ died for us, sinners, who are now justified by His blood. We are reconciled through Him. ROMANS 5:15-17 ... The free gift of righteousness by the grace of God. ROMANS 10:9-17 ... Confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. GALATIANS 2:16-21 ... We are justified by faith. Our old nature is crucified with Christ; Christ now lives in us; we live by faith --- not the law! EPHESIANS 2:8-10 ... "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." Works have nothing to do with our justifying eternal life. The Mormon will be quick to point out James 2:17 - "Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone." AMEN! That is not denying salvation by faith. What it is saying is this: "You say you are saved? Saving faith will naturally flow into a life that will show evidence of it. Your 'works' will testify of your faith. If none, there is reason to question whether there really was a saving faith to start with." To quote Ed Decker in his tract "To Moroni with Love"; You do not bark to become a dog nor "baa" to become a sheep. You bark because you are a dog or "baa" because you are a sheep! Christians, when born-again and indwelt by the Holy Spirit, have a never ending desire to follow the Lord Jesus in their daily life behavior. "Works" is not an appropriate name as it suggests payment after the work has been done. Christ made the payment IN FULL for our sins by His blood for us; if only we REPENT of our sins and ACCEPT Him by faith. It is available only through God's grace for an eternal life. I JOHN 1:7 ... Blood of Jesus cleanseth us from all sin. HEBREW 9:23-28,10:10-18 ... Jesus was the sacrifice, once, to perfect forever those who are sanctified. ROMANS 5:6-11 ... We are reconciled by His blood. ISAIAH 53:6-11 & I CORINTHIANS 5:17-21 ... Our iniquity was laid on Jesus; to die for us; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him. I PETER 2:24 ... "Who his own self bare our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins should live unto righteousness: By whose stripes ye are healed." You will never (Well, We won't say never because God may have His plan for their salvation that We are not aware of at this moment) see a cross on a Mormon structure. They will say call it a "graven image"; yet "Moroni" stands on top of their temples. Moroni didn't die for them. Joseph Smith, Jr. didn't die for them. The church didn't die for them. JESUS DIED FOR THEM, if they would only cling to His cross and reach out to claim His blood for their sins. They're told they can earn their own righteousness based on the law of the church which is based on "prophets, seers and revelators" proven -TIME AND AGAIN- to be false. Wouldn't you rather lay your eternal life in the hands of the ETERNAL GOD; the SON who, personally, died for you - than, say, a "prophet" in Salt Lake City? Our prayer is that this comparison of the Bible vs: the LDS Mormon church will show you the LIGHT of CHRIST. Computers For Christ DO THE NAG HAMMADI WRITING AND DEAD SEA SCROLLS CONFIRM MORMONISM or IS EINAR ERICKSON CONFUSED ? In recent years, Mormon lecturer, Einar C. Erickson, has given numerous talks to Mormon church groups concerning the Dead Sea Scrolls, Nag Hammadi writings, Mandean Ginza and related Middle East finds. These lectures have been taped and widely distributed for use in converting the uninformed to Mormonism. Mr Erickson states that the writings discovered in the vicinity of Nag Hammadi, Egypt, are one of the greatest confirmations of the "truthfulness" of the Mormon church that anyone would find anywhere. On one of his tapes, Mr. Erickson boldly declares that: "These documents and others leave without doubt evidence positive even on the best rules of evidence that an attorney might be able to assemble, that this gospel [i.e. the Mormon gospel] is true. You get no credit for faith anymore." Mr. Erickson attempts to convince his listeners that the writers of the Nag Hammadi were the true Christians, (based upon his allegation of their similarity to Mormonism) and that all others had slipped off into apostasy. However; the Nag Hammadi writings are of "Gnostic" origin which were written during the first to fourth century A.D. The Gnostic heretics did cherish both the Old and New testament Scripture, but re-interpreted them in terms of a mythological Gnostic Redeemer. Gnosticism gave rise to the writings of a number of totally spurious apocalyptic books, false gospels and epistles that incorporated their own mysticism. Gnosticism was a movement that vigorously contended with Orthodox Christianity for supremacy. Writings by the early Church Fathers show how widespread and influential Gnosticism was; and it was combatted as a lethal threat to the proclamation of the Gospel. The bishops pointed out the great gulf between Biblical Christianity and Gnosticism, even though the Gnostics made use of Biblical text. It is obvious that Paul, the Apostle, knew of the false ideas of Gnosticism, and spoke out against such doctrines several times in the Scriptures. The Gnostics believed in the supreme being as an undescribable God. He is invisible, incomprehensible, and dwells unbegotten in eternal peace. Some names used to describe God and to stress His transcendence were "Father of All", "The Unapproachable God", "The Unknowable". Such a God could not possibly have direct contact with the material world; therefore, He does so through intermediates, each one answerable to the other. Each intermediate in descending order is less divine and more earthy as the chain nears the material world. Mr. Erickson spellbinds his listeners when he tells them that the Nag Hammadi writings confirm the Mormon doctrine of the Heavenly Mother! What he fails to tell them is that this Mother God of the Nag Hammadi is the "Holy Spirit." Certainly this is in direct conflict with the Mormon concept of a Mother God, because in Mormon doctrine, the Holy Spirit is a male. The supreme being has a female counterpart which emanates from Him. She is known as "Mother of All" or "The Holy Spirit." Other emanations that come forth from the Supreme Being in pairs are called AEONS; the lowest Aeon being "Sophia Akhamoth", she was so full of passion to understand or know God that she fell and was placed outside the Pleroma, God's heavenly dwelling. Because of her desire, she becomes fertile with a formless monster. This monster (Yaldabaoth, Samael or SATAN) is the Demiurge or inferior god who created this material world and brought forth man upon it. According to the Gnostic, all matter is evil; therefore, only an inferior being could have created it. Satan is the creator-god of this earth and of man, and is an evil god. To the Gnostics, Satan is Jehovah of the Old Testament! After Jehovah (Satan) creates man and breathes life into him, he creates Eve. The demonic forces see the beauty of Eve, and proceed to rape her. Through this act, she conceives Cain and Abel. Mr. Erickson often refers to the Hypostasis of the Archons of the Nag Hammadi and being direct parallel to the Garden of Eden scene of the Mormon Temple Ceremony. However, he fails to inform his listeners that the Hypostasis of the Archeons tells of the demons raping Eve! Nor does he point out that the serpent in the garden is really the Holy Spirit coming to give Adam and Eve the "true knowledge." He neglects to mention to his listeners that the "god" who comes into the garden to ask Adam and Eve what they have done is not the "Heavenly Father" but is Satan the arrogant Archon, the evil god. In this instance, Mr. Erickson is, at best, mistaken about the facts -- a fault which reappears throughout his lectures and tapes. The authors of the Nag Hammadi writings taught a form of re- incarnation, and that marriage was evil, because it is of the earth. They believed the begetting of children was from Satan, since it merely increases the number subjected to the evil angels. Resurrection of the flesh is denied by these Gnostics, since earthly flesh is in itself evil, and can have no part in the spiritual scheme of God. All of these concepts are not confirmations of Mormon doctrine, but are direct contradictions of it! Mr. Erickson, looking elsewhere in the Middle East for "proof," tells his audiences that the writings of the Mandaeans of Iraq and Iran are (also) a confirmation of Mormonism. His "evidence" for this is that they speak of baptism for the dead, baptism by immersion, priesthood and baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. What he fails to mention to them is: according to the Mandaeans, Jesus was a rebel and a heretic who led men astray by betraying secret doctrine and making religion easier. The Mandaean sacred book tells of how Jesus perverted the Scriptures, and that Jesus told the Jews that He was the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Furthermore, the Mandaean book accuses Jesus perverting baptism by baptizing in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. The Mandaeans were baptized many times throughout their lives. They baptized infants; and if an infant died before or during this baptism, a clay or dough image was made which they then baptized in proxy for that infant. Proxy baptism was also done for an adult who died before getting his last minute washings before death. In this case, an individual that looked like the deceased was baptized in proxy for the dead person. The Mandaeans also had a ceremony of "eating for the dead" to give the deceased nourishment for his travels to the heavenly spheres. The Mormon people do not baptize infants, do not eat for the dead, nor do they have last minute washing rituals before death as the Mandaeans did. The Mormon proxy baptisms have less in common with the Mandaean baptisms than they do with Catholic infant baptisms, last rites ritual, and prayers for the dead. Clearly, the Mandaean concepts of Jesus and baptism are in no way similar to Mormon doctrine. Those holding the Mandaean priesthood had to have a clean family history for a number of generations, and meet strict physical and mental qualifications. They had to be without the slightest physical blemish, and be of pure Mandaean blood. A man who was circumcised, impotent, or a eunuch could not be a priest for the body must be sound, pure, and perfect. If a man was already a priest and he received an injury which destroyed his manhood or robbed him of a limb, he could no longer officiate as a priest. There are no such restrictions within the Mormon priesthoods. The only things in common with the Mormon priesthoods and baptism and that of the Mandaean are the very words themselves! Mr. Erickson makes false claims about the Dead Sea Scrolls community, as well. He states that those at Qumran baptized at the age of eight, just as the Mormons do. This is just simply NOT the case. They trained young men for their celibate monastic order for about ten years before they were baptized into their ranks. This baptism never took place before the age of twenty. Mr. Erickson states that the people of Qumran were essentially the first "Mormons." However, the people at Qumran didn't even believe in marriage! Rather they adopted in young men from other Essene groups who married only to beget children. By contrast, in Mormonism, marriage is absolutely essential to each member's salvation in the Celestial Kingdom of God. Mr. Erickson claims that the Apocryphal books should be used as scripture. However, even the Mormon's own "latter day" revelation disagrees with him. In the introductory heading of Section 91 of the Doctrine and Covenants, it declares specifically that the apocryphal books are NOT to be accepted as scripture. Beyond that built-in contradiction, lies the fact that one need only to read some of these apocrypha for himself to quickly discover their singular lack of inspiration. For example, two "Gospels" portray the life of the young Jesus, allegedly covering the "silent" years skipped over in the Bible. The book, "The First Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus" portrays Jesus as a spoiled despot who curses another child for bumping into him, and a schoolmaster who was going to discipline Him for refusing to answer a question. After these two people are killed at Jesus' command, Joseph tells Mary, "we will not allow him to go out of the house; for every one who displeases him is killed." In Thomas' "Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ", we see Jesus causing the withering of hands, blindness, and again, death. This is clearly not the Jesus Christ of the Bible! The conclusion is inescapable -- the claims by Mr. Erickson (and consequently other Mormons) that the Mormon doctrine is "exonerated" by the findings in the Middle East is totally without foundation. Mormon doctrine is not confirmed by these different religious sects, it is contradicted by them! It is apparent that these claims are just another chapter in the long history of false archeological boasts made by Mormons in the past. NOTE: A full and completely documented study of Mr. Erickson's scholarship regarding the above topics has been written by Mrs. Melaine Layton entitled: The Truth About the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Nag Hammadi Writings in Reference to Mormonism. For further information, please write to the office of Computers For Christ - San Jose. Do Mormons "Really" Believe in the Bible? Isaiah 41:21 - Set Forth your case I Peter 3:15 - Be prepared, always The credibility of a religious claim rests upon its ability to verify its terms. In the year of 1800, the French Institute in Paris issued a list of 82 "errors' that it had found in the Bible and felt would destroy Christianity in short order. In 1804, not one of the alleged errors remained! In the year 1901, the American Society of Archeology claimed that the Biblical account of a peoples called the Hittites was false. In 1933, archeologists found conclusive proof of the existence of the Hittites and other peoples that the Bible had claimed existed! The primary question for this text is: "Why are we discussing the matter of the Bible and its completeness? Doesn't the Mormon church accept the Bible as the Word of God?" To respond, let me quote from the sources of the Mormon church: 8th Article of Faith - "We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the Word of God." Joseph Smith, in Teaching of the Prophet Joseph Smith, page 327, stated "Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests committed many errors.' and the mormon apostle Mark E. Peterson states in his book, As Translated Correctly - page 4, "Many insertions were made, some of them "slanted' for selfish purposes, while at times deliberate falsifications and fabrications were perpetrated.' Orson Pratt further made a comment in his book, Divine Authenticity of the Book of Mormon - pages 45 & 47, thus: "If it be admitted that the apostles and evangelists did write the books of the New Testament, that does not prove of itself that they were divinely inspired at the time they wrote ... Add all this imperfection to the uncertainty of the translation, and who, IN HIS RIGHT MIND could for one moment suppose the Bible in its present form to be a perfect guide? Who knows that even one verse of the Bible has escaped pollution, so as to convey the same sense now that it did in the original?" The Book of Mormon, II Nephi 29:6 states "Thou fool, that shall say a Bible, we have got a Bible and we need no more Bible. Have ye obtained a Bible save it were by the Jews?" Can you note the FOOLS are the only ones who trust in the Bible? Read verse 10. Here, the Book of Mormon declares the need for more revelation and makes way for its own existence! A point of interest - turn to I Nephi 13:26: "a great and abominable church - has taken away from the gospel of the Lamb many parts which are plain and precious; and also many covenants of the Lord have they taken away." The Book of Mormon tells us that this is 600 B.C.! Do you know what B.C. means - BEFORE CHRIST! So we are told that the gospel of the Lamb has been polluted six hundred years before the Lamb or His Gospel was recorded in the New Testament and given at the Passover! IS THE BIBLE INFALLIBLE? The Bible was composed over a period of 1,500 years by more than 40 different authors from the full range of humanity: from military generals (Joshua) to prime ministers (Daniel) to cupbearers (Nehemiah) to fishermen (Peter) to tax collectors (Matthew) to kings (David). The books were written in many different places: the wilderness (Moses), prison (Paul), and exile (John on the Island Patmos). On three different continents (Africa, Asia and Europe) and in three different languages (Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek). The content, yet, remains constant in its unfolding of the plan of salvation through Christ Jesus. The Old Testament reveals itself to be the story of the preparation for the arrival of the Messiah or Christ. The Gospels of the New Testament are the manifestation of the Christ in the person of Jesus of Nazareth. Acts is the propagation of the message. The Epistles give the explanation and the Revelation of John provides the consummation of the Kingdom of God in Christ Jesus or Lord! The entire Bible is about Jesus (Luke 24:27 - 44 and John 5:39,46,47). I challenge any Mormon to take any ten people, and you can even get them from the same heritage - education - language and culture and ask them separately to give you their opinion of the meaning of life - you will get opinions of such variety, yet the Bible consists of over 40 authors of more than one generation with very little similarity and is in total unity! Complete harmony! In discussion of the matter of infallibility of the Bible we need, first to look at the process that we use to arrive at this conclusion: PREMISE # 1 - The Bible is basically a reliable and trustworthy document. PREMISE # 2 - On the basis of this reliable document, we have sufficient evidence to believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. PREMISE # 3 - Jesus Christ, being the Son of God, is an infallible authority. (Luke 24:27,44; John 5:39; Hebrews 10:7) PREMISE # 4 - Jesus Christ teaches that the Bible is MORE than generally trustworthy. He teaches that it is the very Word of God. PREMISE # 5 - The WORD, in that it comes from God, is utterly trustworthy because GOD is utterly trustworthy! PREMISE # 6 - On the basis of the infallible authority of Jesus Christ, the Bible is infallible. II Timothy 2:13 declares that God "cannot deny Himself" and Galatians 1:8,9 tells us that we should be wary of any teaching of any other Gospel than that which Paul preached, which by the declaration of Paul in Romans 15:19 states that "I have fully preached the Gospel of Jesus Christ." The Mormon church is unable to provide any proof that Paul taught such doctrines as celestial marriage, no hell, wearing of sacred underwear, or godhood to be obtained. It is proper to state that if Paul never taught such doctrines, then Galatians 1:8-9 CONDEMNS them! The claim of the LDS that more scripture is necessary is groundless. In II Peter 1:3, we are told that "His divine power hath given unto us ALL things that pertain to life and godliness." Paul further explained in Colossians 2:10 that "Ye are COMPLETE in Him." If just these two statements are true, what possible use could additional scripture be? Granted that nowhere in the Bible does it state that "This is the end of Scripture"; However, with the above statements, anything else could ONLY be redundant. It is obvious from the text of the New Testament that the writers were "eyewitnesses" of the ministry and presence of Jesus Christ. (II Peter 1:15-18 and I John 1:1-5) Acts 22:14-15 and I Corinthians 11:23 show that the Apostle Paul was specially chosen by the Lord as a witness while the other Apostles were alive. Paul's testimony was identical to that of the other Apostles - what He had seen, heard and taught of the Lord Jesus was identical to all previous teachings and in accord with the Old Testament teachings. Much more could have been written (John 20:30 and 21:25); However, there was no need as there already existed "all things that pertain to life and godliness." (II Peter 1:3 and John 20:31) How many of us, Mormon or Christian have read and digested all of the meat of the Holy Bible - completely? Can there really be a need for something more when the original item is still unplumbed for the depths it contains? We have the following possibilities: the Bible was written by either (1) Good Men or Angels, (2) Evil Men or Demons, (3) God. Good Men or Angels could not have written it as they could not write "Thus saith the Lord" when it was a lie or an invention of their own minds. Evil men or demons could not have written the Bible as they would not have written a book that commands all duty, forbids all sin, and condemns all evil to Hell! We thus have GOD as the only source of the BIble. In the ancient Israel, a class of servants in the Temple were called Scribes. This was a lifelong calling and one of great importance to the continuance of the Law and Prophets of Israel. I will demonstrate the LEGAL method of making a copy of a document according to the laws of Israel at this time and according to the great traditions of the Talmud. The possibility for incorrect copy is almost non-existent. Combine this with the facts as proven by archeology. Prior to the Dead Sea Scroll copy of the Book of Isaiah, the best copy of that Book was over 1000 years newer! In comparing the two copies that covered this gap of a thousand years, there was found only ONE CHARACTER changed, and that was an article that "possibly" could have lost the accent mark of the character to make it 100% identical to the dead sea scroll version! Imagine - 1000 years of copies and NO CHANGE in the versions! Now the basis to make copies of the New Testament were as strict. We find many incidences of the same phenomena of clarity and correctness. Out of all the many thousands of pieces and text, not ONE DOCTRINE has been added to or changed or modified in ANY MANNER! JOSEPH SMITH'S FIRST VISION Fact or Fable ? By W. P. Walters "Sometime in the second year after our removal to Manchester, there was in the place where we lived an unusual excitement on the subject of religion. It commenced with the Methodists, but soon became general among all the sects in the region of country ... my mind became somewhat partial to the Methodists ... but so great was the confusion and strife among the different denominations, that it was impossible ... to come to any certain conclusion who was right, and who was wrong ... in accordance with this, by determination, to ask God, I retired to the woods to make an attempt. It was on the morning of a beautiful, clear day, early in the spring of eighteen hundred and twenty ... I kneeled down and began to offer up the desires of my heart to God. ... I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head ... When the light rested upon me I saw two personages, (whose brightness and glory defy all description) standing above me in the air ... I asked the personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right, (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong) and which I should join. I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong ..." Joseph Smith, Jr. The well publicized story above, of Joseph Smith's First Vision is not a true account of the origin of the Latter Day Saint movement. The facts are decidedly against it! First, the historical evidence shows that Joseph Smith, Jr. could not have been stirred by an 1820 revival, to ask which church was true. Second, early Mormon statements do not support his claim that in 1820 he learned through a visitation of the Father and the Son that all existing churches were wrong. Third, the details known about Joseph's early life contradict his assertion that in 1820 he had such a divine visitation and was persecuted by the community for telling such a story. NO 1820 REVIVAL ..... First his neighborhood in 1820 experienced no revival such as he described, in which "great multitudes" joined the Methodist, Baptist, and Presbyterian churches. The Presbyterian records for the Palmyra Presbyterian Church show that it experienced no revival in 1820. The local Baptist Church gained only six on profession of faith the entire year, while the Methodists actually lost members that year as well as the preceeding and following years. (Minutes of the Annual Conference) Joseph Smith claimed that his mother, sister and two brothers were led to join the local Presbyterian Church as a result of that 1820 revival. However, four years before he made this claim, his own church paper had stated that the revival in which his family had been led to join the Presbyterian Church took place in 1823. (Messenger & Advocate I, pp. 42, 78) In fact, that account says it was the same 1823 revival that led him to go to his bedroom (not to a sacred grove) and pray "if a Supreme being did exist" and to know that "he was accepted of him." An angel (not a deity) is then reported to have appeared and told him of his forgiveness and of the gold plates. Joseph's mother, likewise, knew nothing of an 1820 vision. In her unpublished account she traces the origin of Mormonism to a BEDROOM VISIT by an angel. Joseph at the time had been "pondering which of the churches were the true one." The angel told him "there is not a true church on Earth, No not one." (First draft of "Lucy Smith's History," LDS Church Archives) Furthermore, she tells us that the revival which led to her joining the church took place following the death of her son, Alvin. Alvin died November 19, 1823, and following that painful loss she reports that: "..about this time there was a great revival in religion and the whole neighborhood was very much aroused to the subject and we among the rest, flocked to the meeting house to see if there was a word of comfort for us that might relieve our over-charged feelings." (P. 86) She adds that although her husband would only attend the first meetings, he had no objection to her or the children "going or BECOMING CHURCH MEMBERS." (emphasis added) There is plenty of additional evidence that the revival Lucy Smith refers to did occur during the winter of 1824-1825. It was reported in at least a dozen newspapers and religious periodicals. The church records show outstanding increases due to the reception of new converts. The Baptist Church received 94, the Presbyterian 99, while the Methodist work grew by 208. No such revival bringing in "great multitudes" occurred in 1820. It is clear that the revival Joseph Smith, Jr. described did not occur in 1820, but in 1824. Joseph Smith arbitrarily moved that revival back four years to 1820 and made it fit a First Vision story that neither his mother nor other close associates had heard of in those early days. The historical facts completely discredit Joseph Smith's First Vision story. (For further details see, DIALOGUE: A JOURNAL OF MORMON THOUGHT, Spring 1969, pp. 59- 100) BIBLE READING vs. REVELATIONS ..... About 1832, Joseph Smith, Jr. began an account of the origin of the Mormon church (the only one written in his own hand), that contradicts the official First Vision story he dictated some six years later. The account was never finished and has only recently been published. (See the text in BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY STUDIES, Spring 1969, pp. 278ff) In this version Joseph presents himself between the ages of twelve and fifteen being a committed and perceptive reader of the Bible. He claims that his STUDY OF THE SCRIPTURES led him to understand that all the denominations were wrong. He wrote: "...by searching the Scriptures I found that mankind did not come into the Lord but that they had apostatised from the true and living faith and there was no society or denomination that built upon the Gospel of Jesus Christ as recorded in the new testament." Six years later, when he set forth his official First Vision story, he decided that he never had reached the firm conclusion that all churches were wrong from his study of the Bible. Instead, he claimed that it was DURING A VISION OF THE FATHER AND THE SON that he first learned this information. He presented this as coming as a great surprise, for he added parenthetically - "for at this time it had NEVER ENTERED INTO MY HEART THAT ALL WERE WRONG." (emphasis added) That statement even contradicted what Joseph had said a few paragraphs earlier in the same account. There he claimed that "I OFTEN SAID TO MYSELF ... Who of all these parties are right; or ARE THEY ALL WRONG TOGETHER?" (emphasis added) Although the former statement appears in the original manuscript (see BYU Studies above, p. 290), such a serious contradiction could not be allowed to stand, and after Joseph's death the embarrassing words were edited out. Even without these words, however, the 1838 official account is in conflict with the 1832 version. In the 1832 account it is his Bible reading that stirs him to seek God, while in the 1838 story it is a non-existent revival that motivates him. In the 1832 version he claims to have seen only Christ, while in the 1838 rendition both the Father and the Son appear. In the 1832 account he already knows all the churches are wrong, while in the 1838 story it is the dual deities who first inform him of this. Different people may have different views of the same event, but when one person tells contradictory stories about an event, he completely loses his credibility. PERSECUTION vs. ACCEPTANCE ..... The 1838 First Vision story not only runs into trouble with Joseph's earlier 1832 version, it is also contradicted by what we know about his early years in Palmyra. In his official version Joseph claims he was persecuted by all the churches in his area "because I continued to affirm I had seen a vision." However, Orsemus Turner, an apprentice printer in Palmyra until 1822, was in the same juvenile debating club with Joseph Smith. He recalled that Joseph "after catching a spark of Methodism ... became a very passable exhorter in evening meetings." (HISTORY OF THE PIONEER SETTLEMENT OF PHELPS AND GORHAM'S PURCHASE, 1851, p. 214) Thus, instead of being opposed and persecuted as his 1838 account claims, young Joseph was welcomed and allowed to exhort during the Methodist's evening preaching. Furthermore, no one, either Mormon or non-Mormon, seems ever to have heard of Joseph's encounter with two divine Personages until after 1838. (see this admission in DIALOGUE, Autumn 1966, pp. 30-31; SAINTS HERALD, June 29, 1959, p. 21) From all available lines of evidence, therefore, Joseph's First Vision story appears to be a fabrication. There was NO REVIVAL anywhere in the Palmyra area in 1820, Joseph was WELCOMED, NOT PERSECUTED by the Methodists. His 1832 account represents him as PERCEIVING FROM HIS PERSONAL BIBLE STUDY that all the churches were apostate, while his 1838 account said it "NEVER ENTERED INTO MY HEART that all were wrong." His 1832 version claimed ONLY A VISION OF CHRIST, while the 1838 story transformed this into THE FATHER AND THE SON. No one ever heard such a story until after he dictated it in 1838. In the light of such strong contradictory evidence, the First Vision story must be regarded as only the invention of Joseph Smith's highly imaginative mind. The facts and Joseph's own words discredit it. This work is presented with the earnest prayer that sincere people everywhere may perceive the fallacy and danger of Mormonism and will not become entangled in it, and that the dear Mormon people who are unfortunately deceived by it, may be reclaimed and find the true Way of salvation in the Bible and the blessed Saviour whom it reveals. "Jesus saith unto him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me." (John 14:6) We also pray that the earnest reader upon discerning these things will search the Word of God, the Bible, the only Book whose message is "able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus." (II Timothy 3:15) For Further information write: Utah Christian Tract Society P.O. Box 725 La Mesa, California 92041 SALVATION THROUGH CHRIST vs: THE EXALTATION OF MAN God's word, the BIBLE, which clearly states that our salvation is through the shed blood of Jesus Christ, alone through one faith and His Grace --- not as a result of fabricating our own righteousness by "good works" by attempting to become "perfect" as a result of laws and ordinances of any organization. I JOHN 5:11-13 "And this is the record, that God hath given us eternal life, and this life is in His son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." God spells it out - you either have life through the Son or you reject Him. It is either Heaven or the Lake of Fire; no "grey areas"; no half-way locations. You either accept the Son or you reject Him. Mormonism claims to accept Jesus ---- "We have His name on our church" - But we have now seen that the Jesus of Mormonism is a different Jesus - not any resembalance to the REAL Jesus. Further, by rejecting the total sufficiency of the New Covenant of the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross for their personal sins - and instead electing to attempt the old covenant of works, laws, temples, etc ----- they nullify the offer of eternal life as a gift by God's Love and immeasurable Grace: GALATIANS 2:21 "I do not frustrate the Grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain." As a result, the Mormon believing in the Mormon Jesus, and not the real Jesus of the BIBLE; and following a life only of works, even with utmost sincerity, without the saving faith in the one who died for them, personally, is LOST. We don't say that - GOD says that - in HIS Word - The BIBLE THREE KINGDOMS? Let's go further ---- Mormonism claims three "heavens." They take I CORINTHIANS 15:37-49 totally out of context to arrive at this false teaching. Where Paul is declaring that an individual's resurrected body is different in Glory from his earthly body - as the sun differs from the moon, from the stars - Mormonism has declared three kingdoms of Heaven: TELESTIAL KINGDOM Where all the wicked go, whether they've rejected God and Jesus all their life or not - Murderers, etc ! TERRESTIAL KINGDOM Where good and honorable persons go - they only failed to accept the "gospel" of Mormonism. CELESTIAL KINGDOM a) LOWER DEGREE Good Mormons, but failed to marry in the Temple and having "other" imperfections. These will be allowed to be angels. b) MIDDLE DEGREE Mormons who failed to accept the complete "gospel" but were married in the Temple, sealed to many wives, and are in the process of being exalted through baptism of the dead, etc. c) HIGHEST DEGREE - EXALTATION "Perfect" Mormons. They will be gods themselves just like God the Father. Will have eternal, multiple, marriages for the purpose of sexually procreating billions of spirit children to populate another world that they will reign over as that world's god. MORMON TERMINOLOGY Let's be "clear" on some important terms - even though you will find Mormon writers interchanging them, in a strict sense they are: SALVATION Resurrection only; immortality, or simply life after death. This is what Christ's death on the cross "achieved". This is what all mankind has by the Grace of God as a free gift. But "salvation" for what? This is just the bottom of the ladder. "Those who gain only this general or unconditional salvation will still be judged according to their works and receive places in a Terrestial or Telestial kingdom. They will, therefore, be damned; their eternal progression will be cut short; they will not fill the full measure of their creation, but in eternity will be ministering servants to more worthy persons." Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, "Salvation",pg 669,670 (1966 Edition) So, you see, salvation as a gift through Christ is nothing special to a Mormon. When they say, "Jesus is our Savior", this is what they give Him "credit" for! Now, let's find out what the goal of Mormonism is. Who are these "more worthy persons" ? EXALTATION = Eternal Life in the Highest Degree of the Celestial Kingdom. This is what Mormonism teaches day in and day out. McConkie continues - "Conditional or individual salvation, that which comes by grace coupled with gospel obedience, consist in receiving an inheritance in the Celestial Kingdom of God. This kind of salvation follows faith, repentance, baptism, receipt of the Holy Ghost, and continued righteousness to the end of one's mortal life. (D & C 20:29 & 2 Nephi 9:23-24). All others are damned --- Even those in the celestial kingdom however, who do not go on to exaltation, will have immortality only and not eternal life --- they will be 'ministering servants, to minister for and to those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding and an eternal weight of glory'. They will live "separately and singly" in an unmarried state 'without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity' (D & C 132:16,17). Salvation in its true and full meaning is synonymous with exaltation or eternal life and consist in gaining an inheritance in the highest of the three heavens within the Celestial Kingdom --- It is the salvation which saints seek --- This full salvation is obtained in and through the continuation of the family unit in eternity, and those who obtain it are gods --- If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation. There is no salvation outside The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." "Then shall they be gods, because they have no end - Then shall they be gods, because they have all power ---" (D & C 132:20) "Here then is eternal life - to know the only wise and true God; and you have got to learn how to be gods yourselves, and to be kings and priest to God, the same as all gods have done before you --- and to sit in glory, as do those who sit in everlasting power --- What is it? To inherit the same power, the same glory and the same exaltation, until you arrive at the station of a god ---" Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg 345-347; Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, "Godhood", 1966 Edition, pg 321 History of the Church, Volume 6, page 306 "They are they into whose hands the Father has given all things - they are they who are priest and kings, who have received of His fulness, and his glory -- they are gods --" Doctrine & Covenants, 76:55-58 "As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become." Lorenzo Snow, Millennial Star, Vol 54, pg 404 "Mormonism does not tend to debase God to the level of man, but to exalt man to the perfection of God." Charles W. Penrose,Millenial Star,Vol 23, pg 181 The above quotes appear in Milton R. Hunter's, The Gospel Through The Ages (1958, pges 105-107) under the chapter heading "Men may become gods". Hunter surprisingly supports Mormonism's view of the Godhead of man by noting (on pg 117): "Even the doctrine of a knowledge of God as the avenue to Godhood made its way outward from the Divine Fountain of Truth into the heathenistic religions of the Mediterranean world. The teaching of the HERMETIC pagan cult sound quite familiar to those who are acquainted with the doctrine taught by Jesus, by John the Beloved, by Paul, and by Joseph Smith, the American Prophet". Sorry, but only the teachings of the latter sound familiar. Nowhere in the BIBLE do we find GOD saying man can reach godhood. 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