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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask... 2 ********************** INSTALLED: 30 NOV 84 ************************ 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator 4 ************************************************************ 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which 11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18 ************************************************************ 19 20 "*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"* 21 WELL NOW FOR ONCE I'M AT THE TOP 22 WOW BIG THRILL 23 *"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"""*"*""**"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*" 24 "*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*""*"*"*"*"*"*""*"* 25 88888888****************** W * A * R * N * I * N * G ************************ 26 READING THE FOLLOWING WOULD RESULT IN IRREVERSIBLE BRAIN DAMAGE; 27 ************************************************************ 28 A bored hacker is a terrible thing to be. 29 ************************************************************ 30 31 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 32 'Theus: were you at the 'drop point' yesterday, if so- no fair! 33 what fun is finding something if you already know where it is? 34 If not, happy hunting... 35 p.s. the young Master West, episode II, 3 Dec 84.... 36 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 37 38 end 39 Let's see if I can enter these lines 40 before my line screws up again. Death 41 atant GTE phone instalers. Bye... 42 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 43 Hola again, now for the 'long form' entry. 44 Voyeur: yes, I do have a few word processors for the 64... since I plan to bring all my disks anyway it is sure to 45 be in there somewhere. 46 Tammy: My spells are encoded in a polyalphabetic manner, look in a book on cryptology if you need more explanation. 47 The keyword I am using is 'MAGIC', with A=no shift, B=shift down one, etc. To decode, just shift up. NARTQ RLOOJF 48 means 'ball of light'. 49 ++++++++++ 50 All: It seems the Doctor will be taking the SAT tomorrow morning, but I have talked him into coming to the meeting. 51 L'homme, if you can't take me back to Estacada I think I can get a ride back wh him. 52 Still not quite enough time for a full entry, wait till about 10:30 or so. For now, goodbye. 53 +++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 05:31 on 11/30/84 +++++++++++++++++++++ 26 days till Xmas +++++++++++ 54 --=--==--===--====--=====--======--=======--========--=========--========== 55 Hi all, 56 Tuck here. Well, all I see is gossip. No great creative stories, aww. 57 Anyway... 58 Film Critic: What about "The Wall"? I really think that has to be the 59 best movie I have seen. Lots of subjective meaning, very little meaningless 60 dialogand some good music. It really sinks into some real problems, ones 61 that other films wouldn't touch. 62 Does anybody out there read H.P. Lovecraft? Great horror stories. 63 A little more in detail and meaning than Deities & Demigods. Read some! 64 Friday 18:44 Nov. 30, 1984 - Friar Tuck - 65 ==========--==========--========--=======--======--=====--====--===--==--=-- 66 Lurk Lurk Lurk Lurk Lurk Lurk Lurk Lurk Lurk Lurk Lurk Lurk Lurk Lurk Lurk Lurk 67 68 080808080808080808080808080808080808080808080808 69 I just DEleted about 100 lines of un-funny dirty jokes. If you must enter 70 jokes, they MUST be funny.... the Phantom Glitch 11/30/84 71 808080808080808080808080808080808080808080808080 72 73 ************************************************************* 74 Not much goin' on I see. Oh well, maybe later. 75 ******************* CISTOP MIKEY **************************** 76 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 77 TUCK: YES I HAVE READ A LOT OF H.P. LOVECRAFT. THEY ARE SOME OF THE BEST STORIES I HAVE READ IN 78 A LONG, LONG TIME. DO YOU REMEMBER THE ONE ENTITLED "COOL AIR"? 79 THAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST SUBTLE AND SCARY ONE, OR PERHAPS "THE SHADOW OUT OF TIME", "SHADOW OVER INNSMOUTH"," THE 80 COLOUR OUT OF SPACE", "AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS" AND "THE THING ON THE DOORSTEP". 81 I DON'T REMEMBER A WHOLE LOT OF THE TITLES, AND AMANDA AND JEAN ARE BORROWING 82 THE BOOKS THAT I HAVE. 83 84 AUF WIEDERSEHEN, 85 THE UNBELIEVER 86 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 87 P.S. REMEMBER TO TAKE TIME OUT FOR FUN........ 88 Ah yes, Lovecraft! I *STILL* remember the time that I sat down to read some 89 I finished at about 2 am. ... Picture it: I'm all alone in a BIG OLD (& noisy) 90 house. "It was a dark & stormy night", and I've just finished a FRIGHTENING 91 tale..... 92 I try not to read horror stories at night any more. 93 .................................the apprentice................................. 94 Voyeur: I'll have two boxes of disks. I *MAY* have all of them, it depends on 95 whether or not I get the last four or five disks done before PorSFiS. 96 L'homme: can I get a lift to the meeting? I'd like to bring some stuff for the 97 auction, but it won't fit on the BUS. 98 __________________________________Leonard_______________________________________ 99 ############################################################## 100 The Innkeeper was left sitting by the door to the Inn. He held 101 one of Pam's shoes in his hand. Apparently she had slipped away 102 at last, but left the Innkeeper holding her shoe. "Well" thought 103 the Innkeeper, "I guess she'll have to come back sometime to get 104 her shoe at least." <long pause> "I wonder why anyone would ever 105 want to actually drink champane out of one of these? You could 106 get athlete's tongue or something. Yuck! Besides, it tastes 107 lousy." Getting up and moving back behind the bar, the Innkeeper 108 stowed the shoe in a handy cubbyhole under the bar, and went 109 back to work serving customers and cleaning tables. 110 ################### The Innkeeper ########################## 111 What's Good for the Goose... 112 part 2 113 114 "Right out of an 'I Dream of Genie' rerun", I said to myself, still 115 naturally a bit stunned by the sequence of events that had befallen me. 116 "Who dare disturb my three thousand year sleep?!?", demanded a voice, 117 that seemed, incredibly enough, to come from inside of my own head. 118 "Geeze", I thought, "What was in those mushrooms I had for lunch?" 119 "Foolish mortal. Never can you accept things the way they are. Always 120 you question your own existence, as well as the existence of everything else. 121 Never can you take for granted what your senses tell you!", the voice seemed 122 to scream, racking my head with its anger. 123 "Don't tell me...You...You're the genie from the bottle!", I almost 124 laughed at myself for being so foolish. But I must admit, it was the best 125 description for the situation I could think of at the time. 126 "Ahhh...You taunt me mortal! Next you will ask for me to grant you 127 three wishes, in payment for releasing me." 128 "Well...I must admit...everything else seems to be falling in place. 129 A mysterious bottle, half buried in sand, I give it a rub and open its top, 130 you appear, floating about like something out of a B-grade Arabian adventure 131 flick. What am I supposed to think?" 132 "Perhaps you have taken these 'flicks' as you call them to heart, but 133 not I. You have disturbed my peaceful sleep. I did not ask you to break into 134 my home, and commit sacrilege against my domain, and for that, it is I who 135 will demand the three wishes!" 136 This last line confused me. I wasn't sure if this still wasn't just 137 some drug induced hallucination. But heck, I might as well play along. What 138 can happen anyway, if it's only my mind playing tricks with me? 139 "OK 'genie'. What would you like me to do? What is your first wish, oh 140 master?" I couldn't hide the smirk on my face, and my tone betrayed my 141 amusement with this little reversal of roles. 142 "First, you will cease smiling like some ignorant fool! I hate nothing 143 worse than an insolent and disrespectful slave!" 144 "As you command, oh 'genie'", I said, wiping the smile from my face, 145 and to myself, "Slave eh?" Again out loud, "How can you understand what I 146 am saying, yet speak directly to my mind?" 147 "Enough questions!!!", the genie roared. "Suffice it to say I can 148 not only place my thoughts in your puny mind, but I can see what your thoughts 149 are too. My second command will be a bit more difficult for your feeble 150 self to handle. You are to take this cloth," and with a small puff of smoke, 151 a piece of silk, finer than any I had ever seen, appeared next to me, "and 152 clean the bottle. Clean it from top to bottom. Clean it with a vigor. Clean 153 it like your life depended on it, because mortal fool, it does!" 154 The threat rang in my ears, and my head spun with disbelief, but 155 I obeyed my new 'master'. I got up from the sand, and slowly, very slowly, 156 reached for the bottle, careful not to touch the wisp of smoke that originated 157 within. I rubbed and rubbed. It took several minutes, but when I was 158 finished, the bottle glistened with a sheen of unbelievable luster. 159 "That will be passable. And now for my final wish. You will return 160 my bottle to the sea. The tide here is going out. You will throw the bottle 161 with all your strength. I want never to return to these forsaken shores. 162 Quickly now. Hold out your hand." 163 I obliged, and for a second time, a puff of smoke revealed something 164 new. This time, a cork stopper. Certainly not the original stopper I 165 removed; too clean; not worn around its circumference. What next? 166 167 _to be continued_ 168 MIlch: I assume you don't need a ride at all then? I will have all of your magazines. 169 Leonard: If I don't need to give Milch a ride, than I *guess* I can give you a ride. What exactly are we talking 170 about not fitting on the bus? Bring along your Delphi download. I haven't xferred the archive stuff yet since the 171 official person for that job has not contacted me yet. Listening voyeur? I am about to tear my hair out trying to 172 figure out how to code an unification algorithm for Skolem Normal form clauses in a theory proving program. I'm starting 173 to see negates, predicates, and unit clauses in my sleep. Arg! Only one week left in this term, then fun with finals.. 174 Kathy:Should I bring the adventure stuff? 175 G. Minksy:How was your wild night at the poetry reading? 176 Leonard again: What programming job? I have those tapes to give back to you too. 177 )*$#!@)_*$#!@)_*%)*%@#)*%)@*^#)_*^)#$_*^)_*# L'homme sans Parity *$#*$)_@*)_*)_^*$#)_^*_)#*@%)_@#*%)_@#*%&^_)$*^#$_)^ 178 179 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 180 Did somebody ask for all that 'Apple Poke' info? All that poking made my ribs sore. 181 Mez; In what era was that incarnation? 182 Prometheus; Drop by the JB Tri some Friday night when you happen to have time 183 enough to stay in the country for more than a couple of hours... 184 Or you could drop by after the two o'clock meet and tell me what's been 185 going on. (P.S. by the way, I have a different manager now, so you'd have 186 to ask for me by name- it's 'Michael') 187 188 Are the eyes dry and the sky blue, again? please reply... 189 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --->Michael SONDARGAARD 0150 Hrs 1 DEC 84 190 P.S. 22 Hours and only TWO entries? Looks like T.G.I.F. syndrome... 191 ........................................................................... 192 L'homme: just some old model kits & magazines. It's more inconvenient, than 193 large. 194 As for the Delphi stuff, I'll bring it *IF* I can find it. 195 Mig: I *FINALLY* got the service manual for the DVI. Unfortunately, the jargon 196 gets a bit thick just about where I need the info the most! 197 The M100 apparently talks to the "Z80", CRT C, & FDC thru an 8255 PPI(?) 198 chip. I don't know ANYTHING about PIAs, PPIs & similar chips. HELP!!! 199 I'll have the manual with me at PorSFiS. 200 __________________________________Leonard______________________________________ 201 Hence the world now has come full circle{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{} 202 The Wall, an interesting movie, considering its source. Who on earth do you 203 thing directed the film? An English director of course. While I would certainly 204 not go around touting The Wall as the best movie ever made, I would go for one 205 of the MOST interesting movies ever made, conceived from a Rock and Roll Album. 206 My point about movies made in the USA, is that for the most part, the human 207 element has been discarded for the excitement of hardware. Audiences crave 208 excitement, violence, blood and guts; not relationships, sacrafice, emotion, 209 and convern. Why is 'The Exterminator' the most popular movie in America 210 right now? For the simple reason that American movie goers want this kind of 211 action packed, forget reality, I wanna see some blood movie. If movies are the 212 great escape, what are we escaping too? What kind of morals are we teaching 213 the young, if all they can see is trash like that? There is a time and place 214 for everything, but moderation should be the overriding factor. Perhaps we 215 didn't learn from the Romans after all... 216 A FILM FAN 217 ================================================================================ 218 Phantom Glitch: Gee, I sure am glad that you removed those jokes and that you 219 know what I think is funny before I can 220 even read them! 221 ======================================================== Sudden Death ========== 222 ********************************************************************* 223 SUDDEN DEATH: IF YOU WERE TO READ THE OPENING MESSAGE ON THIS 224 (AND EVERY DISK) YOU WOULD FIND OUT WHY IT WAS DELETED. 225 ********************* CISTOP MIKEY ******************************** 226 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 227 L'homme and all; Just got back from work, it is now 11:46, the bus I should have taken from Estacada left about 24 228 minutes ago. I shall catch the 1:46 bus and be there by 3. Sorry, but I'll be at the PC&S. Further note: My SAT 229 scores are in.... 660 verbal, 700 math. 230 +++++++++++++ 231 We appeared to be quite near the citidel now. It was a glistening tower of some odd material the like of which I had 232 never seen. The cystal forest about us thinned as we approached it. My ears were still ringing with the noise of 233 those horrid azure creatures, though they were far behind us. Strange, I thought I saw the large Demon over there 234 also... he seems to be gone now. Exceedingly odd. "Whooosh, Whooosh." All right, now what was it? That certainly 235 was a strange sound to be coming from a citidel. #All right if we rest outside for a bit?# Assent from everyone. 236 They had run around for quite some time. I felt we deserved a rest. 237 +++++++++++++++++++ 238 ??????????????????? (double entry again) 239 The Doctor found himself face down on the floor after a rather bumpy landing. "Master. Outside sensors indicate a 240 large energy source bearing 317.4 degrees, distance 4 meters." K-9 was still working, as usual. 241 "Right, K-9. Er.. what is it?", the Doctor asked while searching his scarf for his Sonic screwdriver. 242 "A large structure of about 200 meters, Master. It appears to be the source of the energy field that brought us here." 243 "Ah, good. At least it wasn't Milchar. I'll still get those 3x5 cards, though. Tell me, where are we?" 244 "Co-ordinates undefined. Position sensors inoperable." 245 "Good, wouldn't want to go into an adventure knowing where we are, would we? That'd spoil all the fun." Despite the 246 Doctor's words, he was worried. "Let's have a look around, shall we?" 247 Outdoors, the air was fresh and alive. The surrounding territory was rather bleak, a forest of crystalline structures 248 about 5-10 meters tall. The only really interesting feature of the entire landscape was the tremendously large tower 249 to his left. It streched up, on and on, with no apparent opening in its surface. "Oh, lovely. Sucked here by that 250 thing and no way to get in. That's just fine and dandy. Hello. What's that?" 251 Abruptly, off to his left again, some figures emerged from the tangle of crystal behind them. Some of the faces looked 252 familiar somehow to him. He waited, and was rewarded by recogition of the group. Piper, Leonard, an elderly woman, 253 Bard, Poet, L'homme, and... Milchar. "Aha, I knew he was in on this somehow." 254 ++++++++ Milchar & The Doctor +++++++++++++++++++++ 12:09 on 12/01/84 +++++++++++++++++++++ 25 days till Xmas ++++++++++ 255 MMILCHAR & THE DOCTOR: SOMETIMES I FEEL AS IF, IT IS POSSIBLE, 256 THAT PERHAPS, YOU OCCAISIONALLY GET A BIT VOCIFEROUS IN YOUR 257 TALES OF FANCY AND WONDER. PERHAPS SO VERBOSE THAT ONE MIGHT 258 CONCEIVABLY LOSE ONE'S SENSE OF INTEREST IN THE WHOLE AFFAIR. 259 ... ... ... ... ... ODDS AND ENDS ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 260 THE WALL IS A SICK MOVIE. FOR ALL IT'S GOOD POINTS, I LHAVE LEFT 261 PARTIES BECAUSE OF IT. IT MAKES ME FEEL SICK ABOUT MYSELF. 262 I WILL NOT, VOLUNTARILY ATTEND ANY SHOWING OF AFORESAID MOVIE. 263 264 DANNY DARMS ON AT 45.38.62., FOR 18.34.56 ON NOVEMBER 31ST. 265 -------------------------------------------------------- 266 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||^SKIP||||||||||||||||||||||||| 267 ^SKIP ^SKIP ^SKIP ^SKIP ^SKIP ^SKIP ^SKIP ^SKIP ^SKIP ^SKIP 268 TUCK: I TALKED TO THE ninja AND HE GAVE THE SAME EXCUSE;"I HAVEN'T TOUCHED 269 MY COMPUTER IN MONTHS." HE SAID HE WOULD GET AROUND TO IT. I CAN'T TELL YOU 270 WHAT THAT MEANS. I WOULD GIVE YOU HIS NUMBER BUT I DON'T THINK HE WOULD APPRE- 271 CIATE THE PUBLIC LISTING OF HIS PRIVATE NUMBER. ^SKIP 272 SO YOU WANT TO BE A MOVIE CRITIC, HUH? I MYSELF HAVEN'T SEEN "THE 273 WALL" BUT HEARD IT WAS A GOOD MOVIE. IF YOU WANT TO GO TO A GOOD MOVIE TO 274 CRITIQUE, GO SEE THE TERMINATOR (NOT EXTERMINATOR, AS ANOTHER MOVIE BUFF 275 SO IGNORANTLY REFERS IT TO.) IT WAS THE BEST MOVIE I HAVE EVER SEEN. 276 SPECIAL EFFECTS GET A SLIGHT BIT CHEESEY(ONE PART ONLY BUT IT DOESN'T RUIN 277 THE EFFECT OF THE SCENE). 278 DID YOU TALK TO WREN AT ALL DURING CLASS FRIDAY? I HAVE BEEN SO 279 MEAN ON PURPOSE SHE DOESN'T WANT TO BE WITH IN 56546266266223 MILLION 280 LIGHT MILLENIUMS OF ME. BUT SHE CAN'T STAY AWAY FOR LONG, I SIT NEXT 281 TO HER IN CHEM. SO SHE GETS ALL THE ANTI-ARMY VS. PRO-AIR FORCE REMARKS 282 I SAVE UNTIL AFTER LUNCH. 283 284 ALAN KENNEDY THE WORLD GREATEST BUM 285 ^SKIP ^SKIP ^SKIP ^SKIP ^SKIP ^SKIP ^SKIP ^SKIP ^SKIP ^SKIP 286 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 287 288 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 289 I see that Uncle Vic has thought up a novel new way to deal 290 with the tax relief problem. Spend more money and increase 291 taxes to cover the increased spending. Gosh! Now why didn't 292 I think of that?! It's such a ... Political ... answer to 293 the problem. Throw enough money on top of a problem, and 294 you will smother it into submission. 295 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ fred +++++++++++++++++++++ 296 297 WHY DO I GET CONSTANTLY DELETED? I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG! NOTHING MORE OFFENSIVE THAN STUFF I HAVE READ ONOTHER 298 MESSAGES! CISTOP MIKEY, STOP IT! I DON'T DO ANYHTING WRONG! WHY AM I ALWAYS BEING DELETED?!? 299 SO FAR THREE MESSAGES FROM ME HAVE BEEN DELETED FOR NO APPARENT REASON! I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING! STOP DELETING ME, AND 300 LET OTHER PEOPLE DECIDE, PLEASE?!? I HAVE DONE NOYHING WRONG! ALL I DO IS PUT UP, NICE, KIND, NON-DIRTY LIMERICKS! 301 NOTHING CRUDE, NOTHING EVEN, CONTAINING ANY CUSSINGS, NOT EVEN A WORD LIKE BREAST, OR ANYTHING! NOTHING AT ALL! 302 NOTHING WRONG! SINCE THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS MESSAGE, YOU WILL HAVE NO EXCUSE TO DELETE IT! BUT THAT NEVER 303 STOPPED YOU BEFORE, BUT PLEASE LET THIS ONE BE, PLEASE? 304 AND MY NAME IS LIMERICIST. 305 306 ***************************************************************** 307 To person above complaining about deleted messages: 308 Please read the opening message on the disk. Particularly note 309 the "I retain the right to delete messages I may find offensive." 310 Also note that it states right out that this is a private 311 system. I pay for the phone line and the electricity, I also 312 provide the equipment it runs on. As such, I have the right to 313 control the system. I am very open about most things, but I 314 am not in regard to messages intended to hurt other people, 315 those intent on vandlism, or that some may find offensive. 316 My views may seem to be a bit puritanical, but I have to draw 317 a line someplace, and look what happened when it was left there 318 for awhile, far more offensive messages were left. This is why 319 I run a strict system in that regard. 320 ************************* CISTOP MIKEY ************************ 321 322 323 Voyeur: I thought that I'd have to rewrite the first pass of the new edit 324 routine since I'd used PowerTool to swap MOST of the lf/cr pairs. After 325 much study I determined that all I had to do was SKIP the first pass! 326 What a relief! I'm now about half-way thru March 84 & should finish 327 up in the near future. 328 ________________________________Leonard_____________________________________ 329 ---------------------------------------------- 330 So, you didn't like the words for that age old song. I was just trying 331 to inform the public of a unanswered question. It may be offencive but 332 at least it was a little cute, just a little. 333 334 I don't think that the sysop is the only one that is deleting messages. 335 There is probably another user that may find everything offencive so he 336 takes it to himself to be the sole evenger of the "good faith" and delete 337 the messages before the children see them. Let the sysop judge what is 338 good for the board or bad for it, it is his system so he makes the rules. 339 He's the top dog, head honcho, The big cheese! haven't I heard that about 340 some age old polititain, "BIG BROTHER" or something like that? 341 ---------------------------------------------- 342 343 344 345 I AM GONE FROM ENTERING HERE FOREVER GOOD BYE, FAIRWELL, GOOD LUCK, AND A VERY HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON. 346 FOR NONE OF THESE I CAN SEEM TO ACHIEVE. 347 AGAIN GOODBYE MY FRIENDS FOR WHICH I HAVE NEVER MET, YOU HELPED ME LEARN AND GROW, BUT NOW NOTHING IS WORTH IT. 348 SO LONG FAIRWELL, AND GOODBYE....FOREVER. 349 350 351 352 --=--==--===--====--=====--======--=======--========--========--========== 353 Hi all, 354 Tuck here. The senses are absolute. If you perceive a red apple on 355 a tree, then there is a red apple on the tree. For, if we could not trust 356 out preceptions, then where would we be. We could trust nothing, nothing 357 could be proven or disproven. We base our judgements on preceptions, 358 they need to be accurate. (The only real questions is wether or not we 359 really preceive the apple on the tree.) 360 Goodbye, whoever. I'm sorry to see anyone go. We can all contibute 361 something. 362 Uncle ^SKIP: Ease off on Wren. "Forgive your enimies, it'll 363 really throw them for a loop." I hope it'll work. 364 Milchar (or any of the "regulars"): What is PorSFic? Give us 365 some information. I'd like to come. 366 Unbeliever & Apprentice: I think the best story is "The Statement of 367 Randolph Carter." "Dreamquest of Unknown Kadath" is good if you can 368 get through it. 369 Deleted person: Remember, Cisop Mikey is a dictator, and dictators 370 can do what ever they want. If you want to be in control, get your own 371 board. Or, try some humor that's acceptable (to Mikey anyway) Frankly, 372 I would have liked to see some of your stuff, and judge for myself. 373 "That silly elf song is driving me crazy!" 374 << A forgoten toy truck >> (C'est moi.) 375 Saturday, 23:20, Dec 1,1984 - Friar Tuck - 376 ==========--=========--========--=======--======--=====--====--===--==--=-- 377 **************************************************************** 378 i'msorryi'sorryi'msorryi'msorryi'msorryi'msorryi'msorryi'msorryi 379 380 Really I am. Unfortunatly, Some "things came up" and I couldn't 381 make it. l'homme I hope you didn't drag all that stuff in.... 382 I missed you all but my minds been a frazle recently and I have 383 to work on that all the time to keep it stable. Ill do an entry 384 tonight a little later. 385 i'msorryi'msorryi'msorryi'msorryi'msorryi'msorryi'msorryi'msorry 386 *****************************kathy********************************* 387 :::::::::::::::::O O::::::::12/02:::::::::::01:51::::::::::::O O::::::::: 388 Kathy: what you missed was an extremely unmotivated group of people. 389 If you had made it, you would either has inspired us, or ended up as 390 dull as us. It's probably just as well you missed it (else we'd probably 391 not see you again, like so many others who show up once). 392 L'homme: I finally got around to converting my archives from single-sided 393 to double sided. That left me with 22 disks still in use, with 26 freed up. 394 I was originally going to do all the processing while doing the xfer, 395 but I decided that at the rate it was going, I might as well do 'em as I 396 got in the mood. By the way - when can I expect those two disks to be ready? 397 I'm kinda anxious to take a look at them. (maybe you can drop them off at 398 the Fish & Wildlife and they can be brought home from there... or on second 399 thought, that may not be such a good idea). 400 Leonard: while putting the archive files on double sided, I also organized 401 them. You were right - they were really a mess. The first year especially - 402 I think that was when L'homme was having his original problems with the xfer, 403 until he got the system streamlined. 404 I found a note on one of my disks - it listed Dec0582, Dec2282, and that infamous 405 May2083. Are those files that were not available in the first group, but are 406 now ready? (along with all the subsequent disks?) If so, I didn't leave room 407 for them. Of course. 408 ::::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::voyeur:::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::: 409 410 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 411 Siskel and Ebert return (sp?) a.k.a. 'a film fan' and Sondargaard 412 Fan: Being in the movie business, I'd like to clarify a few points for you. 413 1) Odd as it may seem, Principal Shooting for 'The WALL' had begun before 414 the album was even released- although I don't know why a couple of the 415 songs were deleted from the album's first pressing.... 416 The album paved the way for the coming film. (hush-hush) 417 2) As someone else so ungraciously put it: The movie you were thinking 418 about was 'The Terminator' starring Arnold S., and not 'EXTerminator' 419 starring- who cares; by the way, it's on the Top Ten Grossing Films 420 (money-making, not grossing-out with a spoon) list for the week, 421 not the number one film though. 422 I feel that you are a bit more sophisticated in the way you state your 423 opinions, and that I manage, but are we arguing for arguments sake, or 424 are we as close as we can get to BBS version of those two from Chicago? 425 Until we type again... <beep,beep> 426 [[[ NOW can we leave the real world, and return to our INN? ]]] 427 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --->Sondargaard 0308 Hrs 2 DEC 84 428 429 ****************************************************************************** 430 Ontho started buzzing frantically "dezzzaatzz, tezzztazzde, (ect)" Leo 431 looked up from her resting postion to see what the action was all about. 432 A large flash of light could be seen down on the surface. "oh goody gumdrops" 433 "some action at last!!!" Leo leaped to her feet and was down on her butt 434 just as fast .. ( forgetting about the ice ). Over comming her akwardness 435 she got up again. Ontho chuckled. She spotted the getaway vehicle first 436 and pointed it out to Ontho, who matched the vehicles course and speed. 437 The vehicle was traveling fast down on the tundra and the navigator 438 seemed to know the route well, they lost sight of the vehicle more than 439 once as it veered around cornices and pits. And then it went straight 440 up 50 yards and then straight down into the earth. They flew over where 441 the vehicle vanished and saw a large opening. "In we go!!" Leo shouted to 442 Ontho who had already taken that intiative. Leo held the trident high and 443 it started to glow. 444 The plunged into the abbess and the howling of the wind stopped, down 445 and down into the hole. The only light being cast from the trident. Ontho 446 slowwed the disk, so they wouldn't crash into anything unexpectedly. A strange 447 glow could be seen in the distance. Ontho slowed even further and they 448 "crawled" up to the cavern. 449 It opened up into a huge underground city of sorts. With modern 450 buildings secured to the floors and ceiling of the cave with steel fittings. 451 Moving sidewalks were everywhere. And all sorts of alien life was mulling 452 about. Several Inmo's included. Human children were everywhere, all wearing 453 the mind control headgear. 454 Our travelers were moving about unnoticed thanks to the invisablity 455 shield and were learned quite abit. Leo's hand was flying over the pages 456 in her journal. writing down as much as she could so her reports would 457 be accurate. Ontho was usig the disks sensory devices to located energy 458 sources, and found something quite interresting. A direct wave comming from 459 and monument straight ahead. 460 ****************************kathy*******.************************************** 461 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 462 463 The time has come for the Federal government to issue each citizen a 464 VCR and a cable hookup. We already have the "bread", now we need the 465 circuses. If it's true that the average American watches 6(SIX!) hours of TV 466 a day, then why not let them watch 16? They won't be missed... Let the rest 467 of us continue civilization's progress, and let the other members of the Homo 468 Sapiens family (isn't Homo Sapiens Televionus an oxymoron?) branch off to their 469 (presumably) inevitable extinction. Give them continual television, and they 470 will fail to procreate. Will society really miss Fundamentalism, Hustler, Neo- 471 Nazis, etc.? 472 Kill them with kindness, 473 474 The Frequent Fascist 475 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 476 477 Great idea. 478 479 --------------------------------------- 480 My subtle mis-typing of the movie "The Terminator" is of course taken wrong by 481 those who disagree. Perhaps some don't realize a very common form of put-down 482 is to call something or someone incorrectly. "That's RockFORD, not RockFISH, 483 if you will." 484 My sources concerning the Wall seem to say different. Consider the film came 485 out over a year after the album was released (what kind of market setup is 486 that?) No one is going to release a movie based on an album that fails 487 miserably. There is no certainty in the record business, even for a group with 488 the stature of Pink Floyd. Distributers are going to wait until the basis of 489 the movie (the album) is firmly situated in the market place. Considering the 490 album was a huge sucess, won a grammy, and was widely acclaimed as one of the 491 greatest R&R works of all time, the movie was of course a natural. 492 'The Wall' was not an overwhelming commercial success, being resigned to smaller 493 theaters and cult status, which seem unfortunately to depend on lack of 494 success, but it is still a film that coupled with the album soundtrack, 495 accuratly depicted the group's outlook on society. Commercial success not- 496 withstanding, it was a moral success in the highest degree. For that, the 497 group and the makers of the film are to be commended for ignoring money as 498 the over-riding factor, and sticking with their original ideas. 499 A FILM FAN 500 --------------------------------------- 501 ============================================================================= 502 Cistern/Cistop Mikey: I resent the innuendo that I have not the capacity or 503 the wit to understand the rules governing your system. I have read the 504 beginning the disk, and furthermore, I understand it. However, you sir, seem 505 not to understand what it says. The reason I 'spoke' to Phantom Glitch was 506 because he is not the Sysop. The Welcome message clearly states "...As the 507 system is privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages 508 which I may find offensive." Unless you have given out the right of 509 censorship to the users, I felt he had oversteped his 'rights' of use on this 510 BBS. 511 If "Phantom Glitch" is one of your alternate personalities, please accept 512 my apologies. If not, I stand on my beliefs. 513 ========================================================== Sudden Death ====== 514 ... ... ... ... ... ODDS & ENDS ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 515 Perhaps the opening message should be reformatted to take the edge off. As 516 it stands, I am afraid it is a little insulting to those who were innocently 517 leaving entries without malice, or even knowledge that what they were doing 518 was wrong. Simply stating a few or only one, simple guidelines should make it 519 all just a bit nicer. As for what the guidelines should be; I have given no 520 thought to this. But with the style of this System; I'm sure one will be soon 521 found. If there is a recognized need. And I'm not sure about the need, or 522 lack thereof. 523 524 For the one who left forever; Why do you leave? I see nothing wrong with your 525 departing entry, perhaps a little sorrowfull, but my last BackWater message 526 would be too. My memory fails me as to who is so unpopular to warrant your 527 apparent banishment, and even if it is debatable (You unpopularity) then why 528 not make a new start? Even for all the people who make first impression 529 judgements that they take to their graves, pretty much everyone here is truly 530 kind, and gracious. I don't know why you have chosen to leave, nor why you 531 attribute unpopularity as a reason; but please come back, please? 532 533 ... ... ... ... ... ODDS & ENDS ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 534 535 HELLO. 536 IM NEW HERE AND I THINK THIS IS THE MOST DIFFERENT BBS I HAVE EVER SEEN IT SEEMS TO BE 537 PRETTY GOOD. 538 539 TOTAL NUMBER OF LINES = 539