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From: DEATH FENNEC
To: SINDAR
Subject: California ...
Date & Time: 05/29/91 19:47:07
Message Number 17202
SI> See you on the other side of the doggy door.
Are you feeling all right. Do you think that you can drive that far
and be ok? Hmm. Anyways, onto the next quote.
SI> No Mushy Mushys.
Hmm. I think that you need to see a shrink. I do not know if you
are going to be able to make it out to California or not. Then again, I
suppose that it cannot be any worse than the way that Tyler drives! :)
Just kidding, (I think!) Hmm. Anyways, I guess that we are going to be
having one hell of a blast when we get out there. Hmm. Well, I do not
know what the future holds, except for a few things, like I will be get-
ting into a relationship with Two females, and well, I will talk to you
about this at a later time ... Anyways, I shall be going for now. Bye
bye! :)
/! Death Fennec -- ;>
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From: RUFUS
To: SINDAR
Subject: California ...
Date & Time: 05/29/91 22:17:51
Message Number 17211
Are you leaving /this/ Friday, as in the 31st? I thought the third
Muskateer had final exams, or am I just being a silly Rufus again?
SLAP! Yes, you are being a silly Rufus. SLAP!
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: ALL
Subject: They who wonder
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:01:50
Message Number 17212
In case you're wondering,
No, I'm not leaving Sarasota this summer. (Yeah!)
No, I'm not in the same dorm room over the summer. (Drat!) I'm
over in a different residential community over the summer... ya want
directions? Send E-mail, or call me at 355-6861.
Yup, the modem works.
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SCOTT STEEL
Subject: hi, I'm back.
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:18:00
Message Number 17213
>and you wouldn't believe the number of chicks I've ******* since I
>got the car...
Ah! So we're into beastiality now, are we? Trust me: stick with
full-grown chickens. They're much more fun.
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: JONBOY
Subject: Republicans
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:21:23
Message Number 17214
>Too bad alternative parties have such a tough time breaking ground.
To break ground, an alternative party needs lots of money. Any
group that has lots of money wants to maintain the status quo.
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: TURTLE
Subject: chocolate
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:23:52
Message Number 17215
Bee-youtiful description of gourmet chocolate, especially the last line.
Swiss chocolate is wonderful, but all that most Americans ever meet
is Toblerone.
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: TURTLE
Subject: beliefs
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:25:56
Message Number 17216
I see no reason why records should not be labelled with something like:
WARNING: This record contains profane language, sexual imagery,
and intelligent lyrics.
Heck -- it would tell the younger buyers which albums to purchase
immediately...
More seriously, if such a label were part of the cover (and not just
the cellophane wrapping), it would be obvious to parents which albums
their child bought that may not be up to their standards. Such
voluntary labels would NOT be censorship, any more than listing
ingredients in a package would restrict the quality of pre-packaged
foods.
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: RUFUS
Subject: beliefs
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:30:59
Message Number 17217
Hey! Don't pick on George Will! Even if he does wear bow-ties.
On the other hand, Rush Limbaugh deserves all the jokes he gets.
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: RUFUS
Subject: Religion
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:33:18
Message Number 17218
Sorry, Rufus. It's not from your school. (Actually, the original had
"trouble" in for "shit," but I like the later version!)
It's from some American philosopher -- and I can't remember his
name. It got reprinted in U.S. News and World Report.
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SAAVIK
Subject: Mosquito God
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:35:41
Message Number 17219
Although some of my friends are fireflies, I am NOT one. Nor
do I glow in the dark. Just got my wings a little crispier in the
microwave, thank you.
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SAAVIK
Subject: beliefs
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:38:01
Message Number 17220
I always find it interesting how many pages of information a newspaper
has, and that CNN needs to repeat itself every hour. Hmmmm....
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: DEATH FENNEC
Subject: California ...
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:39:58
Message Number 17221
You're leaving us? *SNIFF!* Well, see ya, old chum. Good luck in
fair California, and keep in touch!
//Dragonfly//
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From: TURTLE
To: SAAVIK
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 05/30/91 02:24:26
Message Number 17223
>...if they continually hear this stuff on TV and the radio...it just
>becomes acceptable to them to say those things and think about the
>implications of the songs.
By "say those things," I assume you mean use the colorful metaphors and
expletives in the songs...to which I say "So what?" There is no such
thing, and I mean /no/ such thing, as a "dirty" word. A word gets its
meaning only from the society of the people who use it and the context
its used in. Who cares if some word for sexual intercourse becomes
acceptable to people? If this happens, it is no longer "dirty" at all,
is it?
As for thinking about the implications of the songs: If they were raised
to believe that those implications are wrong, ie, that women are not to
be treated as objects, etc, then once they start thinking about the
implications of the songs they will probably stop listening to them. The
idea that children get their morality and sense of ethics from pop music
is downright silly. If the idea isn't there to begin with, they aren't
gonna get it from a song, and if they were /not/ raised to believe that
the ideas expressed in the song are wrong, they'd probably behave badly
regardless of whether or not they ever listened to the music, hmm?
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From: TURTLE
To: SINDAR
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 05/30/91 02:33:03
Message Number 17224
>...how many cranks did it take you to start your car engine back
>then?
Don't laugh; I've done it. To a Bug. I needed to get somewhere, see,
and my starter motor was fried, and the fan pulley nut is the same
size as a lugnut, so...I used the lugwrench on the fan pulley. Damn near
took my friggin' arm off, too. It was a lot O' work, but it started
the car...
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From: TURTLE
To: ALL
Subject: Stuff
Date & Time: 05/30/91 02:38:49
Message Number 17225
The following people really ought to think about posting in the
Den soon:
Scott Steel
The Specialist (I don't know if your character was close enough to over-
hear the conversation between Tampa and Shandra, but the
odds are good that he was...)
Saavik
Opus
Ya know?
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From: MAXIMILION
To: SAAVIK
Subject: verbal abuse
Date & Time: 05/30/91 11:34:14
Message Number 17226
In the series of t"This is your brain on drugs" things, I saw a new
posters at Camelot the other day...labeled "What if famous people's
brains were on drugs"....Mikhail Gorbechev with the runny yolk that
looked like the birthmark on his head, Ted Bundy's extra fried, Ronald
Reagans' Scrambled, etc.... Most humourous....hahahah
-Pete
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From: KEN SABLE
To: RUFUS
Subject: California ...
Date & Time: 05/30/91 13:00:12
Message Number 17228
I do have finals ... But I have requested that we wait until Wed. for
our departure ... I'm not sure what Sindar is deciding, but since he
-is- my only transportation, I'll have to go with what he decides. I
think he is willing to wait until Wed. (Which is when school ends for
me.)
--- Sable
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From: DEATH FENNEC
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: California ...
Date & Time: 05/30/91 15:50:01
Message Number 17229
Gee, tanx ... Hmm. Oh well, it seems that there are a few problems
that have come up, that we do not think are helping the situation much
at all. Therefore, it will be a little bit longer than what we had been
expecting. Hmm. Oh well. Anyways, C-Ya! :)
/! Death Fennec -- ;>
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From: SINDAR
To: RUFUS
Subject: California ...
Date & Time: 05/30/91 16:07:27
Message Number 17232
Exams...fuck, I aint even going to school anymore dude....let
alone exams.....third muskateer....grrrr arf, ou shall be hung
by your eye lashs over molten lava...
Sindar
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From: SINDAR
To: TURTLE
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 05/30/91 16:10:29
Message Number 17233
> but it started the car...
Ok yeah, but did the rubber band break? :)
Sindar
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From: RUFUS
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: Religion
Date & Time: 05/30/91 18:14:14
Message Number 17236
Bloody hell! Do you know if it's in the public domain or whatnot.
I'd really like to publish it in QV...
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: AL
Subject: *yawn ^pop^*
Date & Time: 05/30/91 18:39:41
Message Number 17237
The former First Mate sets his mug down, having noticed that none of
the barmaids or bartenders seems in the least interested in giving him
"another one of these".
It occured to him to wonder about how he was going to get off this
island. After all, not too many pirate ships are interested in signing
on a "former" First Mate. And besides, did he really feel like going
back to pirating? He looked over to the bunnymorph, who was looking
quite frankly bored.
"You know," he says to her, "you haven't said practically word one.
If I didn't know better, I'd think that you were bored." She looks
suprised, raises her eyebrows.
And another thing that's bothering him...there are assorted murmurings
around here about "trouble brewing"...and while he could take care of
himself, he just plain didn't give a care about anyone else in here. So,
he concluded mentally, why stick around and fight a battle which wasn't
his?
Because he had no way of leaving, and this establishment was for al
practical purposes going to be his home until he could make up his mind
about where he was going next. And how. He frowns, and the bunnymorph
gets up, moves behind him, and starts massaging his back. "Y'know,
this situation never would have occured at the Wyvern's Den." The bunny
murmurs something in response, and continues working his neck. He
couldn't quite be sure, but it sounded like she had said, "It's your
fault."
He spins around sharply, throwing her hands off. "What did you say?"
She gives him another suprised look. "I said, 'It's alright'." She
blinks.
He takes her hands. "Sorry. Can I get a raincheck on this encounter?"
She nods.
He gets up and wanders over to Shandra.
"Hello," he says by way of greeting. "Need some help?"
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From: CHARLES DITTELL
To: TURTLE
Subject: chocolate
Date & Time: 05/30/91 21:02:49
Message Number 17239
Whew: not a man to be wishy-washy about his opinions on chocolate!!
Re Hershey's, have you tried its "Symphony">...very good (in this
person's opinion)....also, the best chocolate I ever tasted was
Baker's Milk Chocolate (I don't think they make it any more: they
still make baking choc. and semi-sweet, but haven't seen Milk in
20 years)...second best is Godiva...or maybe one of the Northern
European chocolates (Droste comes to mind....mmmmm)....
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From: CHARLES DITTELL
To: RUFUS
Subject: music
Date & Time: 05/30/91 21:05:21
Message Number 17240
Hahahaha.....Geez...."Horse with no name" motivated me to steal a
horse and go riding in the desert....
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From: CHARLES DITTELL
To: RUFUS
Subject: Picnick Date
Date & Time: 05/30/91 21:06:17
Message Number 17241
Yes, you are 100% correct (as opposed to 88% correct)...thank you:
PICNICK:::::::::SATURDAY, JUNE 8th, 10 AM to NOON:::::::::::
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From: CHARLES DITTELL
To: SAAVIK
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 05/30/91 21:07:27
Message Number 17242
Yes, if they _continually_ hear those songs, but that's where
parental influence influences: you can't keep the kids from
NEVER hearing a particular piece of music, but you CAN keep
them from continually hearing it....
When a teen, I loved R&R - Elvis, "Earth Angel"....etc.....and
I still don't dis-like that, but I also love classical, modern
jazz, etc.....so my early music experiences didn't turn me off
to "serious" music....
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From: CHARLES DITTELL
To: SAAVIK
Subject: speed of board
Date & Time: 05/30/91 21:09:51
Message Number 17243
I think it's your imagination: or should I re-set my modem to 2400????
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From: CHARLES DITTELL
To: SAAVIK
Subject: rememb'rin'
Date & Time: 05/30/91 21:10:38
Message Number 17244
Heheheh....I can't include "bee ridge extension" but the rest, I can
definitely relate to!! Drive-ins.....wow.... :)
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From: KNIGHT OWL
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: chocolate
Date & Time: 05/31/91 04:18:55
Message Number 17245
Yes, Toblerone is good... Mmmmmmmm.....
There is a variety of imported chocolates available at Wunderbar at the
Sarasota Square Mall. They had some /real/ swiss hot cocoa that I would
have bought if I had the $.
L8R!
-a Knight Owl that bites the head off first on those chocolate rabbits.
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: TURTLE
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 05/31/91 19:35:51
Message Number 17251
T> If they were raised to believe that those implications are wrong...
T> then once they start thinking about the implications of the songs
T> they will probably stop listening to them.
Turtle, you never went against your parents' wishes simply to
go against their wishes? You never rebelled just for the sake of
rebellion?
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: KEN SABLE
Subject: California ...
Date & Time: 05/31/91 19:38:18
Message Number 17252
Great ta see you're still here! (Though you'd left.)
//Dragonfly//
P.S. You've got E-mail.
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: RUFUS
Subject: Religion
Date & Time: 05/31/91 19:43:03
Message Number 17254
Yup! It's in the public domain. But if ya publish it in QV, be
sure to star out at least one character per line. (Maybe spell
"shit" as "shi*"?)
//Dragonfly//
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From: SAAVIK
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: isnlsdg
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:16:41
Message Number 17255
TS>Ah, yes...buy me this, buy me that...money, money, money.
And you just say.... "No, No, No....." And you get.... "Wah! Wah! Wah!"
Ain't kids great?!
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From: SAAVIK
To: RUFUS
Subject: Maas Library,ha
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:18:26
Message Number 17256
What about this.... I got a library book thats, like, 8 years overdue.
I lost it. I admit it.
So I haven't been to our local library in 8 years...... think the new
computer program may have forgotten who I am?
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From: SAAVIK
To: SINDAR
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:21:02
Message Number 17257
Yeah, I know what ya mean...... Valarie is walking around singing...
...."I don't want anybody else, when I think about you I touch myself"
Oh, Great!!!!
Oh, and she's been imitating Paula Abdul...... which at least is better
than the "crotch grabbing" Madonna, eh?
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From: SAAVIK
To: SINDAR
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:23:22
Message Number 17258
SN>....how many cranks did it take you to start your car.....
Hmmmm, coming from the guy who has a 1967 Mustang parked in his drive
way......... I dunno.... How many Gerbils does it take to run those
things...???
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From: SAAVIK
To: SINDAR
Subject: verbal abuse
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:24:49
Message Number 17259
SN>......like Mother, like children....sounds like your mentality
level there, Saavik.....
Naw, My kids are smarter than I am.... they aren't hanging around with
YOU!!!!!!
SN>...Queen of all that Bitches...
And don't you forget it!!!!!
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From: SAAVIK
To: SINDAR
Subject: Religious Logic
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:26:47
Message Number 17260
A race between Thumper and Turtle???? Naw...., Thumper's too lazy....
It would be like a remake of the Tortoise and the Hare.... Thumper would
take a nap somewhere along the line.... and you know Turtle, he'd just
use his "leap" thingie and probably end up in New Jersey somewhere.....
looking for a mead.
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From: SAAVIK
To: SINDAR
Subject: Pentacon
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:28:46
Message Number 17261
SN> Yeah sure Saavik.... and the Arf God eats cat food.....
Gee, that's something I thought you'd never admit..... but I saw those
empty cans of Friskies in your garbage can.
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From: SAAVIK
To: SINDAR
Subject: back...
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:30:11
Message Number 17262
SA>how did you (Jonboy) break your toe.....
SN>Probably by kicking some lady who asked stupid questions like
"How did you break your toe..."
You can be replaced, you know, your Arfness..........
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From: SAAVIK
To: SINDAR
Subject: California ...
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:32:11
Message Number 17263
If you guys think for one minute that you are going /anywhere/ without
"mushy mushys" from Saavik, you are seriously mistaken!!!!!!
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From: SAAVIK
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: Mosquito God
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:36:23
Message Number 17264
One question, can a Dragonfly with crispy wings still fly? Or are you
forever grounded now......
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From: SAAVIK
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: beliefs
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:37:20
Message Number 17265
Have you ever flipped channels during the "news hour" on the local
networks...(of course you have....) It's amazing, the same stories, just
different anchorpeople..... but what's strange is the different way they
each present that same story......
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From: SAAVIK
To: TURTLE
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:39:17
Message Number 17266
T>If they were raised to believe that those implications are wrong....
then once they start thinking about the implications of the songs they
will probably stop listening to them.
You have obviously been around /very/ few children. I'm talking 8 year
olds here..... if Joe Schmoe down the street thinks the song is cool,
and Little Tommy thinks that Joe Schmoe is cool, then Little Tommy
is going to listen to the song whether he A)understands it...B)agrees
with it's implications... or not.
Welcome to Peer pressure 101.....your instructer is Life.
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From: SAAVIK
To: TURTLE
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:43:02
Message Number 17267
T>I used the lugwrench on the fan pulley....
Just what exactly /works/ on the bug.... I mean besides the new ignition
switch......
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From: SAAVIK
To: MAXIMILION
Subject: verbal abuse
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:45:19
Message Number 17268
They left out one on the poster at Camelot "What if famous people's
brains were on drugs"....
.... Ronald McDonald in an Egg McMuffin.
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From: SAAVIK
To: SINDAR
Subject: California ...
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:47:01
Message Number 17269
Don't you snap at Rufus!!!! Would you rather he'd said "Mousekateers?"
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From: SAAVIK
To: CHARLES DITTELL
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:50:06
Message Number 17270
I suppose you are right about the songs NOT influencing children over
the long term basis.... I mean, I listened to "disco" when I was a teen
and I turned out OK..... uh,....... OH NOOOOOO!!!!! I'm going to burn
every Rap cassette in the house!!!!!!
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From: SAAVIK
To: CHARLES DITTELL
Subject: speed of board
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:51:45
Message Number 17271
No..... do not adjust your monitor, do not adjust your modem..... and
welcome to the twighlight zone....
.... the board is still running at 1200 baud.... but this program sure
is running better alla sudden... Our shelled one must have been tinkerin
on it....
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From: SAAVIK
To: CHARLES DITTELL
Subject: rememb'rin'
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:53:13
Message Number 17272
....ah... I remember Drive In's well... 4 in the car and 4 in the trunk.
I had this huge Buick (a 61 Invicta (sp?) that got like 7 miles to the
gallon on a good day). We could smuggle a bunch of friends in that!!!!!,
AND a cooler.
The Bee Ridge extension was the place we all went to race..... fun... bu
but dangerous.....
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From: SAAVIK
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:55:50
Message Number 17273
DrF>Turtle, you never went against your parents' wishes simply to
go against their wishes?
Touche! He must have been a "Rebel without a Shell" at some time in his
life.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: SAAVIK
Subject: isnlsdg
Date & Time: 05/31/91 23:03:23
Message Number 17274
SA>And you get... "Wah! Wah! Wah!" Ain't kids great?
Oh, yeah. Really. I just |love| 'em. I hope anyone else has a million
of 'em. I can't wait for my own.
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From: TURTLE
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/01/91 00:34:55
Message Number 17275
>Turtle, you have never gone against your parents' wishes simply to go
>against their wishes?
You are missing my point. If parents raise their children to believe tha
the values and ideals expressed in the type of music Saavik objects to
are wrong, then those parents do not /have/ to forbid their children to
listen to the music. Therefore, the children in question will not listen
to the music to rebel, since they won't be rebelling by doing it. You
cannot rebel against a restriction that does not exist.
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From: TURTLE
To: SAAVIK
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/01/91 00:38:50
Message Number 17276
>You have obviously been around /very/ few children...Peer Pressure...
If the child does not understand the implications of the song, it
doesn't matter if he listens to it or not. It might as well be in
Swahili for all the impact it's gonna have. If, on the other hand, the
child /is/ old enough/mature enough to understand the implications of
the song, and also has been brought up to believe that the ideals in the
song are wrong, it's rather unlikely that he's going to suddenly trash
all his ideals and upbringing to go out and start behaving like the song
tells him to regardless of how "cool" he thinks it is. People don't work
that way. If they did, all you'd have to do is record a song about
listening to your parents and cleaning up your room ands all the
problems facing parents today would evaporate, yesno?
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From: TURTLE
To: SAAVIK
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/01/91 00:42:38
Message Number 17277
>Just what exactly /works/ on the bug...
Right now, everything except the carburetor and the brakes. It runs,
although it idles fast and rough; it just don't stop very well. But that
problem ought to be fixed by the time you read this...
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From: TURTLE
To: SAAVIK
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/01/91 00:44:21
Message Number 17278
>[Turtle] must have been a "rebel without a shell" at some time in his
>life.
Not really; I never had very strict parents, so I never went through the
ritualistic bad-attitude rebellious pubescent teen thing. I just got
into the habit of staying away from the house a lot; I'd leave the
house Friday morning and come back Monday night, and my mother would
say something like "You weren't around all weekend so I vacuumed your
rug." My parents always figured I was smart enough to get myself out of
any trouble I got myself into...and if not, well, call it a learning
experience.
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SAAVIK
Subject: islands dog
Date & Time: 06/01/91 01:33:42
Message Number 17280
>Ain't kids great?!
"Mommy doesn't love me because Mommy won't buy me a Super Bat-Man
Cape with real grappling hooks and twenty secret compartments! Waaah!
And it only costs $250.99!"
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SAAVIK
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/01/91 01:36:05
Message Number 17281
Immediately stop her from listening to Paula Abdul! I know that Ms.
Abdul LIKES Rush Limbaugh's radio show!
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SAAVIK
Subject: Mosquito God
Date & Time: 06/01/91 01:37:49
Message Number 17282
This Dragonfly still buzzes around... but he looks even more like a
Krispy Kritter to some other swamp creatures.
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SAAVIK
Subject: beliefs
Date & Time: 06/01/91 01:38:48
Message Number 17283
Yup. Though it's easier to compare newspaper stories. There's not
really any unbiased sources of news around.
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: TURTLE
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/01/91 01:41:45
Message Number 17284
But wouldn't normal parents think that listening to the music is an
act of rebellion against those values? Wouldn't the child use it as
such?
//Dragonfly//
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From: RED DRAGON
To: TURTLE
Subject: Software Trade
Date & Time: 06/01/91 04:39:54
Message Number 17285
We got your number from an issue of Furry Bytes, and were wondering if
you would be interested in software exchange. I represent a new BBS
that will go online in October from Okinawa, Japan. 'NightCity'
CYBERFURRIES!!! We will except any kind of programs in exchange for
just about any kind of program you can think of! (Non-Commercial please)
We will be using an APO in SF, CA for our home address, so mailing costs
will be very low. We can read IBM 5.25 DS/DD, 3.5 DS/DD and Amiga 800k
3.5's so you can mail us in any one of those formats. We will call back
here Tuesday night, If you leave your address, we will send you a sample
of some of our stuff. We also will have Japanimation VHS tapes!
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From: SAAVIK
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: isnlsdg
Date & Time: 06/01/91 10:59:12
Message Number 17286
Come on, Dave.... You know that there are more to kids than just
"Buy me, buy me.. Wah Wah Wah!!" There are a lot of good things too
and as soon as I think of a few.....I'll post them...
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From: SAAVIK
To: TURTLE
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/01/91 11:01:19
Message Number 17287
T>If parents raise their children to believe that the values and ideals
expressed in the type of music Saavik objects to are wrong, then those
parents do not /have/ to forbid their children to listen to the music.
Therefore, the children in question will not listen to the music to
rebel, since they won't be rebelling by doing it.
Ah, if only it were that easy, Turtle.....but it's not. It's really not.
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From: SAAVIK
To: TURTLE
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/01/91 11:04:24
Message Number 17288
It's not that the implications are going to "suddenly" make the child
run out and do something completely out of character, Turtle. It's just
...ok.... some of the Two Live Crew lyrics..... blather about fucking
and pussy and dick and all that..... now, my 8 year old has heard that
before..... he knows that you don't go around saying these things....
but now he's heard this rap tune... with those words in it.... he hums
it.... he sings it with his friends.... it's cool... even though he know
I DON'T LIKE IT.....
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From: SAAVIK
To: TURTLE
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/01/91 11:07:30
Message Number 17289
By chance does that bug have a name yet? You really ought to give it
a title.... besides "The Bug."
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From: SAAVIK
To: TURTLE
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/01/91 11:08:23
Message Number 17290
How fortunate you were not like a billion other kids whose parents put
no restrictions on them... I believe that most of them are doing time
some where... or in drug rehab.... or down at Palms Memorial about
six feet under.
My sister raised her last one like that....... he ended up really
screwed up.... and in therapy... his words to her were.... you never
cared what I did..... I did bad things to make you care.....
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From: SAAVIK
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: islands dog
Date & Time: 06/01/91 11:10:49
Message Number 17291
DrF>"Mommy doesn't love me because Mommy won't buy me......."
Actually, you know, I must say my kids know the meaning of "I don't have
the money to buy that." Even though they are only 8 and 4... they don't
toss fits when I say "No." to something they want me to buy. They are
pretty reasonable about most things.
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From: SAAVIK
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/01/91 11:13:08
Message Number 17292
I can't stop her from listening and watching Paula Abdul... it's too
cute... you should see her trying to dance like that.
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From: SAAVIK
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: Mosquito God
Date & Time: 06/01/91 11:14:02
Message Number 17293
DrF>This Dragonfly still buzzes around...but he looks even more like a
Krispy Kritter to some other swamp creatures.
Good thing we don't have any Kritters that eat insects in here... oh,
hmmm. Do Turtles eat Dragonflys???? Hmmm. well, at least there aren't
any Frogs about.
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From: SAAVIK
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: beliefs
Date & Time: 06/01/91 11:16:13
Message Number 17294
DrF> There's not really any unbiased sources of news around.
Well, you could always call Compuserve and read the news...... at what?
$$$ an hour.
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: SAAVIK
Subject: isnlsdg
Date & Time: 06/01/91 17:30:10
Message Number 17295
SA>Come on, Dave...You know that there are more to kids than just...
SA>...there are a lot of good things, too and as soon as I think of
SA>a few...I'll post them...
At any rate, I'm sure that the things that you could think of could be
only considered good to a parent...tho...I await your pleasure...
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From: CHARLES DITTELL
To: SAAVIK
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/01/91 21:27:45
Message Number 17296
Hahahaha.. (re rap music)..... Hey, will you be at the Picnick?
BTW, check message re different LOCATION of picnick!
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From: CHARLES DITTELL
To: SAAVIK
Subject: speed of board
Date & Time: 06/01/91 21:28:52
Message Number 17297
Ahhh....well, I may soon sell my 2400 bauder...hmmmmm... :)
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From: CHARLES DITTELL
To: SAAVIK
Subject: rememb'rin'
Date & Time: 06/01/91 21:29:35
Message Number 17298
Ahhhh, I grew up where there was an equivalent to Bee Ridge Extension:
a road where no one went, almost no crossroads...we used to race there
too...I had a '56 Olds (well, my dad's).... Ah, fond memories...
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From: CHARLES DITTELL
To: ALL
Subject: Picnick LOCATIO
Date & Time: 06/01/91 21:31:00
Message Number 17299
Our upcoming Picnick LOCATION has been changed: new location will
be posted here tomorrow at about 2:30 PM....(close by, tho!)
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From: KEN SABLE
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: California ...
Date & Time: 06/02/91 00:22:10
Message Number 17300
Naaww .. I'm not in California yet ... Ah well, anyways, I got the
message about the Con a TEENSY WEENY BIT too late ... Oh well,
anyways, bye bye
-- Sable
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From: SINDAR
To: SAAVIK
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/02/91 12:06:42
Message Number 17302
> coming from a guy who owns a Mustang/ sitting in drive way...
True...but it is in the garage. And it is only in the garage
because it leaks. Ok, I admit, its a piece of sh*t...major...
I do belivev that it is a whopping 5 Hamster power.
Sindar
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From: SINDAR
To: SAAVIK
Subject: back...
Date & Time: 06/02/91 12:09:57
Message Number 17303
Saav> You can be replaced your arfness....
Naw...ya said it yourself.....Arf Gods are ferever....
Sindar
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From: CHARLES DITTELL
To: ALL
Subject: NEW PICNICK INF
Date & Time: 06/02/91 14:34:45
Message Number 17304
NEW INFORMATION for our Sarasota Monthly Indoor...
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Sponsored by Suncoast City BBS and Wyvern's Den BBS
(Wyvern's Den 'in absentia' temporarily)
Incredible giveaways, Incredible food, Incredible talk!
NEW TIME: When? Saturday, June 7th, 11 AM to Noon
NEW PLACE: Walt's Fish Market, Rt.301 b'twn 5th & 6th St (East side)
Who? ALL callers, sysops, friends, spouses, etc.
Why? Because there will be great giveaways, great conversation
and an inexpensive fun time!! (Last Picnick 'til FALL!!)
For more details, call Suncoast City at (813)953-5505
You'll like Walts - costs about a buck more for lunch, but well
worth it! Plenty of room, nice atmosphere....see you'all there!
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From: CHARLES DITTELL
To: ALL
Subject: new info!
Date & Time: 06/02/91 14:36:30
Message Number 17305
NEW INFORMATION for our Sarasota Monthly Indoor...
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Sponsored by Suncoast City BBS and Wyvern's Den BBS
(Wyvern's Den 'in absentia' temporarily)
Incredible giveaways, Incredible food, Incredible talk!
NEW TIME: When? Saturday, June 7th, 11 AM to Noon
NEW PLACE: Walt's Fish Market, Rt.301 b'twn 5th & 6th St (East side)
Who? ALL callers, sysops, friends, spouses, etc.
Why? Because there will be great giveaways, great conversation
and an inexpensive fun time!! (Last Picnick 'til FALL!!)
For more details, call Suncoast City at (813)953-5505
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From: CHARLES DITTELL
To: SYSOP
Subject: picnick
Date & Time: 06/02/91 14:37:22
Message Number 17306
Hi - note my last message: the picnick will be at ELEVEN AM to
Noon (or later)...at Walt's Fish Market - they also have chicken,
salads, etc.... Please put out the word (so to speak)....see ya
there...!!(?)!
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SAAVIK
Subject: is nails dug
Date & Time: 06/02/91 17:24:16
Message Number 17307
S> You know that there are more to kids than just "Buy me, buy me..
S> Wah Wah Wah!!"
Hmmm... how much did you pay for your children when you bought
them?
//Dragonfly//
P.S. And did you get them on a blue light special?
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SAAVIK
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/02/91 17:26:48
Message Number 17308
How 'bout "The Splattered Bug"?
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SAAVIK
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/02/91 17:27:29
Message Number 17309
S> His words to her were... you never cared what I did... I did bad
S> things to make you care...
Precisely. Some parents put no restrictions on their children
because they don't care. But one doesn't mean the other.
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SAAVIK
Subject: Mosquito God
Date & Time: 06/02/91 17:29:48
Message Number 17310
No, so far as I know, Turtles don't eat Dragonflies. But there's
enough OTHER predators out there to make us go crazy.
Sheesh... why does Nature hate a pacifist?
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: SAAVIK
Subject: beliefs
Date & Time: 06/02/91 17:31:22
Message Number 17311
I included the A.P. newswire in an unbiased source of news... granted,
it's a lot LESS biased than most any other news source.
And, besides. I don't want to pay THAT much for the news.
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: KEN SABLE
Subject: California ...
Date & Time: 06/02/91 17:33:41
Message Number 17312
For all I know, the Con is still going on...
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: CHARLES DITTELL
Subject: new info!
Date & Time: 06/02/91 17:34:55
Message Number 17313
Didn't I hear that somewhere before?
//Dragonfly//
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From: THE SPECIALIST
To: SINDAR
Subject: back...
Date & Time: 06/02/91 18:13:04
Message Number 17314
Hey, now, don't knock Mustangs. They may be slow, but at least they're
pretty...well, cute. Especially the newer ones. Ok, ok, so maybe they
aren't even cute. Well, at least they put good tires on 'em.
What for, I dunno...
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From: BUSTER BUNNY
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: Mosquito God
Date & Time: 06/03/91 13:35:48
Message Number 17315
DrF> Sheesh... why does Nature hate a Pacifist?
Well, Why do Humans hunt Foxes? For sport? What a cruel way to
treat animals. Why do humans have to treat animals so bad? I mean,
hell, Ken Sable Hates Dogs, and just like, shoves them away. Why? I
would like to know why people have to hurt animals. I can understand
maybe foir food, like Cows, but I mean, I could not go out, and just
kill a dog, or a fox, or any othe animal for that matter. I do not,
in a matter of speaking, like to hear of anybody, hurting animals. I
even bitch at Ken Sable, when he gets pissed off at his cat, and he-
throws it across the room. I tell him that if he throws the cat, I-
will leave ... For I do not in the slightest believe in that.
Why do Humans Hurt Animals...why?...
Buster Bunny 6:B
6:B -- bunny with tongue hangin' out ... other way ...
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: BUSTER BUNNY
Subject: Mosquito God
Date & Time: 06/03/91 17:38:26
Message Number 17326
BB> [Long tirade about hurting animals]
Hmmm... are you a vegetarian, then?
Humans hunt foxes because it's fun to be cruel. Not many people
would go out and kill -- just for pleasure... but there's still a
number of hunters out there. Go figure.
//Dragonfly//
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From: CHARLES DITTELL
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: Heheh....
Date & Time: 06/03/91 18:23:29
Message Number 17327
Well, the Picnick will at leave have all the room we need....the asst
manager said they could accommodate up to 50 people. I happen to love
their shrimp dinners (and scallops too!)...but their lunches are fine,
too.... Anyway, hope we can get a good turnout....
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From: TURTLE
To: RED DRAGON
Subject: Software Trade
Date & Time: 06/03/91 23:49:43
Message Number 17333
Well, hey, I'm definitely interested. If you are interested, I also have
an extensive collection of .GIF, .MAC, and PICT-format graphics,
including a great deal of Japanimation and Furry artwork. I have a
fairly extensive library of MS-DOS, Amiga, and Macintosh software
(PD and shareware) and even the odd bits of TRS-80, Apple, Kaypro-II,
CP/M, Z-System, and H-86 software (grin). My mailing address is:
Franklin Veaux
1895 Sanford Circle
Sarasota, FL 34234
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From: TURTLE
To: SAAVIK
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/03/91 23:58:16
Message Number 17334
>By any chance does that Bug have a name yet?
RoboMouse, so called because of the "Mickey Mouse ear" floodlights on
the roof. It got the name shortly after Rufus saw RoboCop (the original,
not the hacked-up Frank Miller sequel). As a historical aside, my first
Bug was named JSYS, since everyone knows a JSYS is a good vehicle for
hackers...
===========
From: TURTLE
To: SAAVIK
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/04/91 00:00:04
Message Number 17335
>How fortunate you were not like a billion other kids whose parents put
>no restrictions on them...
That isn't the case at all. It's not that my parents put no restrictions
on me; they simply told me what they thought was appropriate behavior,
and /why/ they thought it was appropriate behavior, and figured that as
a self-determining and sapient lifeform I was capable of figuring out
the rest by myself. They also didn't bail me out whenever I got into
trouble, like a number of the parents of the type you describe seem to
do. If I got into trouble, it was my own damn problem and I had best
figure how to get myself right back out again. There is some middle
ground between the "total permisiveness" and "raise the kid as a carbon
copy of ourselves" camps, ya know?
===========
From: TURTLE
To: SAAVIK
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/04/91 00:03:52
Message Number 17336
>I can't stop her from listening and watching Paula Abdul...
Or 2 Live Crew.
>...it's too cute... you should see her trying to dance like that.
You aren't /really/ being amused at your child's expense, are you?
For shame, for shame. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
===========
From: TURTLE
To: CHARLES DITTELL
Subject: new info!
Date & Time: 06/04/91 00:06:29
Message Number 17337
>NEW PLACE: Walt's Fish Market, ...
Chef Paul's threaten you with a major lawsuit or an impact fee?
===========
From: TURTLE
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: back...
Date & Time: 06/04/91 00:07:54
Message Number 17338
>Hey, now, don't knock Mustangs. They may be slow, but at least they're
>pretty...well, cute.
Oh, come on. Give credit where credit is due--some of the older 'Stangs
have it where it counts. The Mach 1's and Shelby Cobras are pretty
quick, all in all. Perfectly adequate.
===========
From: TURTLE
To: BUSTER BUNNY
Subject: Mosquito God
Date & Time: 06/04/91 00:09:43
Message Number 17339
Why do Humans Hurt Animals...why?...
Because Humans Are Obnoxious. Humans don't treat /each other/ with
respect; you don't REALLY expect them to treat other species with
respect, do you? Besides, sometimes it's PROFITABLE to hurt animals...
'nuff said.
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From: KNIGHT OWL
To: TURTLE
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/04/91 01:01:21
Message Number 17340
What's the 'JSYS ' stand for?
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From: RED DRAGON
To: TURTLE
Subject: Software Trade
Date & Time: 06/04/91 05:44:31
Message Number 17341
Kool!, We will get 3 sample disks out to ya, If you are looking for
anything, tell me and I might be able to get it. Keep an eye out for
our package. We will send you our address with the package, cause we
are in process of moving. Catch Ya Later, DUDE!!
===========
From: DRAGONFLY
To: CHARLES DITTELL
Subject: Heheh....
Date & Time: 06/04/91 08:40:50
Message Number 17342
Okay, you'll be seeing me there! (I was thinking about going to
an event in Gainesville -- but, no real reason to, now.)
//Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY
To: TURTLE
Subject: new info!
Date & Time: 06/04/91 08:43:09
Message Number 17343
You remember the last Picnick? And how cramped we were in the back
room? And how some people (no names given, here...) couldn't even
SIT in the back room? Sheesh -- we need to move to a much larger
place.
//Dragonfly//
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From: SINDAR
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: back...
Date & Time: 06/04/91 09:30:13
Message Number 17345
> dont knock mustang.....
Naw dude.... I aint knocking them.... I wish mine was in better
condition an all. Jus that the older ones, ya either got one thats
in Mint condition or you dont, theres no inbetween. As for mine, now
that we keep finding things, its getting farther and father away from
mint everyday....trying to sell it now as it is. For someone who
actually knows how to fix em up an all..... tis a good fixer up.
The body though looks GREAT! Just wish they could put the Stang body on
another car....ha!....
Sindar
===========
From: SINDAR
To: TURTLE
Subject: Mosquito God
Date & Time: 06/04/91 09:35:28
Message Number 17346
> animal treatment and stoff....
Well, it seems people treat animals in such ways because they
can't hear them scream. They can't listen them say that it hurts.
All they can see is their eyes looking back.... Would hearing the
animals make people stop? No. Hell no. People are usually ignorant
to others feelings. Personal gain has toppled self respect and respect
for others that it is so commman now a days jus to push away others
for yourself. It weaves itself into every aspect of life includeing
that of pets.... hell, animals in general. Life sucks when someone
has to kick a dog to take out their frustrations of work and the
sort.
Sindar
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From: RUFUS
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: Religion
Date & Time: 06/04/91 12:44:06
Message Number 17347
Why splat out a character? Of course, it's Tuesday, school's more or
less over Thursday, and we haven't even started the actual layout.
Ghods, I want a Mac.
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From: RUFUS
To: SAAVIK
Subject: Maas Library,ha
Date & Time: 06/04/91 12:45:12
Message Number 17348
I don't know if you're name would still be listed. That computer
system really sucks. But at least they got the worlds loudest dot
matrix printers and people print out the screen instead of writing down
the title and number. Aaarrghh...
===========
From: RUFUS
To: SAAVIK
Subject: California ...
Date & Time: 06/04/91 12:49:12
Message Number 17349
>Don't you snap at Rufus!!!!
Awww...thanks...I feel loved now. Now that I think about it, I'm
retracting my "Three Muskateers" in favor of "Three Stooges." :)
===========
From: RUFUS
To: TURTLE
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/04/91 13:04:37
Message Number 17350
>It [RoboMouse] got the name shortly after Rufus saw RoboCop.
Huh? Is my seeing RoboCop (which I first saw on video...five times
in one day) important to the name of the Bug. I don't think I was
related in naming the Bug. Or was I. I digress...
===========
From: SINDAR
To: RUFUS
Subject: California ...
Date & Time: 06/04/91 14:37:39
Message Number 17352
> Three Muskateers to Three Stooges.....
How about.... "Three Blind Mice...."
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From: GREATLEGS
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: same
Date & Time: 06/04/91 20:42:41
Message Number 17354
I changed my alias but not much. Wrote to sysop about dropping the
previous one then couldn't come up with a new one. Nice to hear you
're a leg man.....Greatlegs.
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From: GREATLEGS
To: RAT
Subject: alias
Date & Time: 06/04/91 20:44:21
Message Number 17355
You're on! Now where is it? Rat's place, I mean.....Greatlegs
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From: SAAVIK
To: THE SPECIALIST
Subject: isnlsdg
Date & Time: 06/04/91 22:56:35
Message Number 17356
Naw, I think /anyone/ could understand some of the good points about
kids whether they were a parent or not....
For instance, Marshall got an award of Excellence in Math today... that
made me very proud of him.... and Valarie performed at the Van Wezel on
Sunday and I was /very/ proud of her then... she was really cute...
And just today she said...... "Your the best Mommy that I ever had."
Aw... isn't that too cute?
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From: SAAVIK
To: CHARLES DITTELL
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/04/91 22:59:39
Message Number 17357
I'm not sure that I won't have to work on June the 8th... but if I can
I'll go. New location? It's not going to be a Chef Pauls?
===========
From: SAAVIK
To: CHARLES DITTELL
Subject: speed of board
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:00:50
Message Number 17358
CD>Ahhh....well, I may soon sell my 2400 bauder...hmmmm....:)
Oh? Going to get a 9600 and break the sound barrier are you?
===========
From: SAAVIK
To: CHARLES DITTELL
Subject: rememb'rin'
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:01:49
Message Number 17359
CD> .....I had a '56 Olds... Ah, fond memories...
Not all fond.... though... I had a Camaro I used to run out on the
extension (actually turned 16's at DeSoto *yee ha*).... and I dated a
guy who had a Firebird... I think it was a 68? Not sure.. anyway... he
was racing me and he hit the shoulder and flipped the Firebird....
Scared the crud out of me!!!!! I was on two wheels doing a 360 in the
road to go back and see if he'd killed himself or not... Luckily, the
only thing that was damanged was the car....
===========
From: SAAVIK
To: SINDAR
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:06:08
Message Number 17360
Hey!!! That Mustang is NOT a peice of sh*t. I still happen to like that
car.... even if it does turn into a swimming pool on rainy days. It's
still a cool car...
I'll take your word about the Hamster Power... you ought to know, you
have to feed them... but don't you think Thumper Two would like to go
back to his cage now? He told me the smell of radiator water boiling
makes him nauseus..(sp?)...
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From: SAAVIK
To: SINDAR
Subject: back...
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:08:32
Message Number 17361
I think that should be "Arf Gods are Fur-ever." Woof!!!!
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From: SAAVIK
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: is nails dug
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:10:56
Message Number 17362
KO> P.S. And did you get them on a blue light special? (Kids)
Hehehe. Funny you should say that... I met my husband when we were both
working for Kmart (a billion light years ago) and he's always joking
that he got me on a blue light special.... Hmph!!! Did not! I happen to
remember that he paid FULL price!!!!
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From: SAAVIK
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:12:51
Message Number 17363
Drf>How 'bout "The Splattered Bug"?
Hmmmm, more like "The Battered Bug." Although I imagine it's pretty
splattered (with mud) after Turtle gets done with an off road adventure.
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From: SAAVIK
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:14:50
Message Number 17364
Drf>Some parents put no restrictions on their children because they
don't care.
Well, in some cases, they still love the kids, but they get the attitude
that it's easier to let them do what they want than to enforce the
restrictions and provide the consequences. Which conveys to the kids tha
(that) they don't care....
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From: SAAVIK
To: DRAGONFLY
Subject: Mosquito God
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:17:40
Message Number 17365
When I was a kid (Saavik launches into yet another childhood story) I
used to play with Dragonflies. When they'd lit on the clothesline, I'd
sneak up on them and slap them in my cupped hands. It would stun them
just a little (never killed them)... then I'd carry them around and
feed them stuff (like flies and balony) until they flew away again...
...... same with lizards...
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From: SAAVIK
To: BUSTER BUNNY
Subject: Mosquito God
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:21:12
Message Number 17366
Maybe people hurt animals for the same reasons some parents hurt their
children..... it's the pitts, isn't it? Like the guy who beats his dog
with no mercy.... until one day the dog bites him... then what happens?
The Dog gets taken to the pound and terminated....
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From: SAAVIK
To: TURTLE
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:23:49
Message Number 17367
RoboMouse.... I like it... Yeah, and the car kinda looks like a two
button Mouse too.
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From: SAAVIK
To: TURTLE
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:25:03
Message Number 17368
T>There is some middle ground between the "total permisiveness" and
"raise the kid as a carbon copy of ourselves" camps, ya know?
Every child is different.. You can have three children... all raised
by the same parents in the same house... and each one will turn out
differently... with different tastes, etc... you have to raise each chil
(child) as an individual and find the best way to "handle" him/her.
At least that's been my experience.
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From: SAAVIK
To: TURTLE
Subject: restrictions
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:27:24
Message Number 17369
My daughter is 4... I think it's safe to say that she won't be listening
to 2 Live Crew at MY house or at her Preschool....
T>You aren't /really/ being amused at your child's expense, are you?
Yep.... but I'm laughing with her NOT at her. She's really a pretty
good little dancer. I would never Ridicule or laught AT her when she
is doing something... this would discourage her...
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From: SAAVIK
To: SINDAR
Subject: Mosquito God
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:31:42
Message Number 17370
Some animals do scream..... but many times it falls on deaf ears.
And when an animal tries to defend itself against attack, then it is
punished all the harder..... BUT, the law is beginning to prosecute
the abusers of animals more everyday.... so maybe there will be more
"Yips" of happiness, then "Howls" of pain....
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From: SAAVIK
To: RUFUS
Subject: Maas Library,ha
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:35:05
Message Number 17371
RF>....at least they got the worlds loudest dot matrix printers
Yeah, and it's soooo quiet in the library.... then all of a sudden....