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Received: from MIT-HTVAX by MIT-OZ via Chaosnet; 22 Dec 84 14:15-EST
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From: Martin David Connor <marty@mit-htvax>
Date: 22 Dec 1984 1417-EST (Saturday)
To: BaNDyKiN@OZ
Re: Oh Really?
Cc: Marty@mit-htvax
Date: 22 Dec 1984 1417-EST (Saturday)
From: Martin David Connor <marty at mit-htvax>
To: BaNDyKiN at OZ
cc: Marty at mit-htvax
Re: Oh Really?
Apologies to those of you who have seen this before. Just hard to let
pass. And you say you'd like to be president of a company?
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Date: Fri 21 Dec 84 19:44:11-EST
From: J. Noel Chiappa <JNC@MIT-XX.ARPA>
Subject: DEC verbiage
>From seismo!hao!hplabs!oliveb!ios!pesnta!amdcad!decwrl!Glacier!reid
Article 670 of net.general:
Digital Equipment Corporation publishes a newsletter entitled DECWORLD,
which is sent to all employees. The November 1984 (Volume 8/Number 5) issue
of DECWORLD contains a transcript of the State of the Company address given
by Ken Olsen (president of DEC) at the DEC annual meeting. The date of that
meeting is not given in the newsletter.
Here is an exact quote, not particularly taken out of context, from that
address. I have proofread this text fairly carefully, and I believe
that there are no errors in my transcription below.
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One of the questions that comes up all the time is: How enthusiastic is
our support for UNIX?
Unix was written on our machines and for our machines many years ago.
Today, much of UNIX being done is done on our machines. Ten percent of our
VAXs are going for UNIX use. UNIX is a simple language, easy to understand,
easy to get started with. It's great for students, great for somewhat casual
users, and it's great for interchanging programs between different machines.
And so, because of its popularity in these markets, we support it. We have
good UNIX on VAX and good UNIX on PDP-11s.
It is our belief, however, that serious professional users will run out
of things they can do with UNIX. They'll want a real system and will end up
doing VMS when they get to be serious about programming.
With UNIX, if you're looking for something, you can easily and quickly
check that small manual and find out that it's not there. With VMS, no
matter what you look for -- it's literally a five-foot shelf of
documentation -- if you look long enough it's there. That's the difference
-- the beauty of UNIX is it's simple; and the beauty of VMS is that it's all
there.
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Received: from MIT-MC by MIT-OZ via Chaosnet; 26 Dec 84 11:41-EST
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Date: Wednesday, 26 Dec 1984 06:25:41-PST
From: callas%meteor.DEC@decwrl.ARPA (Hardware is just a mathematical abstraction)
To: BandyKin@Mit-MC.ARPA, bandykin%meteor.DEC@decwrl.ARPA
Subject: Re: Oh Really?
Date: Wednesday, 26 Dec 1984 06:25:41-PST
From: callas%meteor.DEC at decwrl.ARPA (Hardware is just a mathematical abstraction)
To: BandyKin at Mit-MC.ARPA, bandykin%meteor.DEC at decwrl.ARPA
Re: Oh Really?
Well, obviously, the beauty of Ken Olsen's
brain is much the same as the "beauty" of UNIX.
Keith
Also, remember that KO was the person who said (in 1974), "I don't know
why *anyone* would want a computer in their home."