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Title: CARI
Author: LydiettCarriĂłn
Date: November 2011
Language: en
Topics: affinity groups, direct action, solidarity, internationalism, Mexico
Source: Retrieved on January 26, 2013 from http://flying.squat.gr/2011/11/23/english-cari-one-year-ago-an-interview-to-the-mexican-organization-celulas-autonomas-de-la-revolucion-inmediata/

LydiettCarriĂłn

CARI

Translation Note: This interview to this Mexican clandestine

organization CĂ©lulas AutĂłnomas de la RevoluciĂłn Inmediata (CARI)[1] that

was published just now November 2011, was taken more than a year ago. It

can be noticed by the facts that it relates to, as for example, the

references to the Greek situation.

It’s an interview that was getting bored on my computer. First I

proposed it to a magazine, soon the time was short for its delivery.

Then I was working on other issues. Now, that the media start again to

speak about anarchists in the Distrito Federal (Federal District –

Mexico City), I think to be appropriate to take the dust out from the

interview and to present it (without any edition), before it gets again

buried in my working disorder.

I clarify that there were two questions that CARI choose not to answer.

One about its positioning, closeness or distance towards groups with

Marxist lines. The other will be kept as private information.

– According to what I have read in your communiques, you are the group

that is closest to an anarchism that goes towards the social movements.

You don’t necessarily claim the concept of eco-anarchism, which would be

(apparently) the most popular one amongst the Mexican youth that chose

to embrace that ideology.

Yes in that case we can say that we, the CARI-PGG, are an clandestine

organization that is organized based on affinity, practicing and

promoting a collectivist-individualist-individualist-collectivist

anarchism; for, to us, there’s no difference between these two postures

because we think that they feedback each other by themselves.

For us it’s important to exist a social organization that is founded in

the libertarian principles of organization and to this organization not

to get stuck in slogans and demanding protests; but to radicalize itself

in a way to derive in an organization that doesn’t struggle for reforms;

but, starting from the base and from the “now and here”, makes an effort

to build an autonomous and free world. [Is to say, that implements the]

autonomy at the individual and community level but also has the will to

destroy the present state of things, that is nothing more nothing less

than the capitalism’s dictatorship.

We should build that organization and that free world, not with empty

speeches as if we were some kind of politician, but on the opposite

should be constructed in practice itself, in the daily life, starting

from the individual change; is to say, throwing away from our persons

the vices of the society, like machismo, sexism, homophobia,

authoritarianism, etc. not teaching but rather impulsing and

contributing to a real change.

On the other hand, for us, is as well of main importance, the

destruction of what oppresses us, of what exploits us and tries to

transform us in its slaves of capital and its social vices, in slaves of

work, of the bourgeois morality. It’s important for us to impulse the

collective insurrection, as well as to practice our individual

insurrection, because we are not willing to keep on bearing their

humiliations, their tortures, their hits, their commodified world,

because we know that each vengeful attack against the police and their

institutions is a solidarity attack with the ones that are behind bars

due to fight, independently the reason why they are imprisoned, each

attack is a clear message to the powerful that each abuse, torture,

imprisonment or destruction of nature will be given back with the same

strength. Are over time giving the other cheek to receive the second

slap.

That construction and that destruction depends of our effort.

About why we don’t call ourselves eco-anarchists. It’s because we

decided to claim ourselves solely as anarchists as the group’s general

identity, although we are also concerned about the destruction of

nature, in these times the ecologist struggle also was converted into a

motto or a social struggle, as an example the struggle against the

metro’s line 12, the struggle against west highway or the actions done

in Guerrero for the defence of the woods, the spreading and

radicalization of this idea of social ecology as well as the methods of

struggle depends from ourselves and from many other radical ecologists

(public or clandestine).

About the social movement, we can say that we’ve learned from them as

well as we had disappointments, but we are self-critics and in general

we say that […] certain things don’t like us and are not close to us but

we neither want to be judges and condemn something that doesn’t take

time or energy from us to put in practice. We were in the social

insurrections and we’ll keep on being in them, to the extent that our

possibilities and knowledges allow, contributing to the expansion of the

conflict and of strongest hits, of course always with the face covered,

the symbol of the secrecy that threatens the state.

We want this to be clear, we don’t pretend to organize the “masses”

neither to direct them, neither to defend them, but to contribute to the

organization and to show an orientation and a totally libertarian

proposal.

– What is your positioning towards the eco-anarchist groups?

In general we think that it’s needed for these groups to exist, that

fight in an objective manner against the eco-systems’ destruction,

because we as well think that a free world couldn’t exist if still is

being practiced the exploitation and domination towards animals and

nature.

So, it’s necessary for sabotage and direct action groups to work

thoroughly this ecology’s issue, in an objective manner as it happened

with Rod Coronado’s and the United States’ ALF’s Bite Back operation

where, based in strategy, technique and objectivity, was possible to

attack the industry of animal exploitation giving a series of accurate

hits to investigation centres; and, with it, provoking an unrecoverable

loss of information gathered over more than 30 years that had been

obtained from the murder of thousands of animals, as well as the

physical damage to the buildings hosting such institutions. Due to this

operation, the fur industry was almost at the point of falling down.

Other examples could be the action against the OGM experiment field, bio

and nano-technology, sabotages done all over the world as in Switzerland

or Germany, or objective campaigns that have yielded lots of success

like the SHAC campaign in England that combines a lot of different

strategies in actions, public and clandestine ones. and that, on this

way, the laboratory against which the campaign is being hold , that is

Huntington Life Science was about to falter, this campaign is a mix of

de-centralized and objective, as public as clandestine, actions.

The movement for Earth’s liberation in lots of countries outside Mexico

has taught us that with strategy, objectivity, direction and mainly with

a well directed and centred direct claim, lots of things can be

achieved. We take from all of this what seems important to us.

– What is your position towards the solidarity actions between

anarchists of several nations?

Of course that is very good. In the last years it has increased in a

very strong level, as in quality as in quantity of the solidarity

actions between anarchists in the world.

For some people this can seem something new or something that is turning

to be a fashion, but lets remember that in the history of the anarchist

movement, similar actions as the ones happening now were done in the

solidarity campaign with the anarchists Sacco and Vanzetti who were

assassinated by the North American state and for whom, from Italy to

Argentina, was yielded a strong campaign of solidarity, demonstrations,

numerous meetings, but mainly explosions and attacks – as the ones done

by Severino Di Giovanni in Argentina – formed part of the protests.

In Mexico in the final times of magonismo (just to identify in a way the

anarchist struggle from 1906 to 1911) when lots of people in Mexico and

in the world denied them support, simply because they remained strong in

their convictions, also then the international solidarity was manifested

in which lots of known anarchists released texts supporting the Mexican

anarchists and their local struggle, as an example, Enrico Malatesta.

All this, as historically as nowadays, show the internationalist nature

of anarchism, making clear that we don’t recognize borders neither flags

but the one that is expressed by freedom, because we think that in order

to exist a free world, there must exist the right to self-determination,

but also the borders must be abolished. In Mexico and in the world there

has been shown that whenever someone is assassinated, imprisoned,

tortured, in every place where exists free people the interests of the

international governments will be attacked, including attacks against

the political representatives of the countries will be seen coming. For

us, as revolutionary anarchists that we are, solidarity is not

manifested in acts to raise monetary funds for one or other cause, for

us solidarity is manifested permanently, it is not an isolated struggle,

but it is the struggle itself. We show solidarity with the Italian

Informal Anarchist Federation, the Greek anarchist groups: Revolutionary

Struggle, Conspiracy of Cells of Fire and sect of Revolutionaries,

Giannis Dimitrakis and anarchist individuals imprisoned by individuals

action and with our revolutionary comrades in Chile, Argentina,

Barcelona, Spain and in the rest of the world.

– How do you describe your organization?

We are a revolutionary anarchist clandestine organization that organize

ourselves under the anarchist values, we don’t maintain neither a

hierarchical neither centralist and even less a vanguard method of

organization, we prepare ourselves physically and psychologically for

the on going war and to the more difficult one that is about to come, we

don’t have military positions and we don’t need them because we are

against any type of control and dominion, and because we trust in the

responsibility that each one of us assumed individually as well as in

our collective responsibility, with the aim to organize and to

contribute to the development and maintenance of this insurgent

anarchist organization.

– Why do you consider that after a sparkling year to anarchism – as it

was 2009 – nowadays exists a kind of calmness?

About this we think that one of the reasons why the present year was

“more drier” when speaking about the action of anarchist and

eco-anarchist groups is because in 2009 the stronger actions of that

year were centralized in the entire month of September and in December,

in only one night, were activated 13 explosives being the strongest the

ones of Toluca and Metepec, But if we make a count about this present

year, there were more sabotages than last year. Other reason is that

while the anarchist struggle grew, the State raised its control and

seems that not everyone is willing to take the risk for little (but

important) things, also the groups seem to have reached other stronger

and more direct phase of struggle. The struggle needs more strategy and

objectivity. From our part we could say that preparation is also a

factor that takes time, but that brings benefits and gives space to make

better things.

– Would you attribute it to the detentions, to the falling of several

blogs that were informing about the movements or to other causes?

We think that in one hand the detentions are debilitate, because it is

true that it hurts to think of a comrade who’s in jail, but for what has

be shown the detentions weren’t a factor that [prevents] the struggle

from continuing, rather it is something more that impels to continue

this struggle for the freedom of our comrades as well. What the state

seeks is, with the prisoners in its jails, to scare the anarchist

fighters or the action to be centralized only with the freedom of

prisoners, neglecting other fields of the struggle, but the things

turned upside down to them. At least the anarchist side has shown that,

instead of making a separated struggle it is better to include the

prisoners in the struggle itself. In Greece, for example, during the

months of November-December there were raids and detentions and even so

in the 30^(th) December there was a high potency explosion at plain

centre of Athens. This is social war.

– Do you want to add anything else?

We would like to display in some way the degraded situation of sexual

violence in which is to be found Mexico City and all the country,

because that jazz thing of social democracy and of Marcelo Ebrad to

which ironically they called the best mayor of the world due to his

supposed support to the women is pure permissive hypocrisy, because

while more laws and laws of protectionism or of supposedly more

liberties are invented, on the other hand the sensationalist media keeps

on inciting and contributing to the sexual violence against women and

homosexuals. It’s degrading every day to be shown, in a morbid way,

[images and bodies] without head, slaughtered, and raped or insulted

women.

This, instead of creating conscientiousness only helps the misogynistic

sentiments to grow more day after day. This, instead of showing the

reality that is being lived in the country only creates a reality of

sexual harassment, discrimination, patriarchy and misogyny, because when

on one hand the GDF’s government invents laws and organisms that

benefice the women, the patriarchal domination keeps maintaining itself

thanks to this kind of newspapers, magazines, videos and so one, in this

way the problem is not attacked in the roots that is the culture and in

power or domination sentiments. On the other hand this caricature

personage called Marcelo was given the letterhead of best mayor

supposedly due to his support to the “defenceless classes”, when on the

other hand, Marcelo Ebrad instead of protecting poor people, let them on

the street, evict people from the houses, destroys lots of aces of

beautiful woods with only goal of benefiting the business sector and the

city of vanguard, which is to say, satisfying their speculative plans as

are the west highway or the line 12 of the metro. We support the protest

mobilizations against the west highway.

On other hand, we know that the corrupt attorney of “justice” from

Distrito Federal, [Miguel] Mancera has putted the anarchist prisoners

under check putting all the possible barriers in order the prisoners not

to leave the jails, lengthening processes, interrogating them

continuously , etc. We know that Mancera is against the anarchists and

wants to smash them by any means, whether they are from the public or

clandestine area. A clear example was the march of 2^(nd) October, where

the DF’s Granaderos squad (Grenade brigade) tried to kettle the

libertarian demo and to stop them to carrying on. So, in the last

October we laughed in his face and of his useless policemen with the

attack on a truck of the repressive squad of Granaderos. We want to say

to Mancera that HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE US, that he will not be

able to stop the offensive and we are proud that he hates us so much. He

can be sure that the hate is mutual

[1] Autonomous Cells of the Immediate Revolution.