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Ground Apple II administrator: Steve Nelson</font></font></address> <br><b><tt><font color="#FFFFFF"><font size=-2>.</font></font><font color="#666666">Csa2 FAQs-on-Ground Resource file: R028LCA2CARD.htm</font></tt></b> <br><b><font color="#FFFFFF"><font size=+2>. .<a href="A2FAQs1START.html"><img SRC="entrance.jpg" BORDER=0 height=14 width=69></a>..<a href="A2FAQs2CONTENT.html"><img SRC="contents.jpg" BORDER=0 height=14 width=67></a>.</font></font></b> <p><b><font face="Comic Sans MS"><font size=+3>Apple IIe Card for the Macintosh LC</font></font></b> <br><font face="Comic Sans MS"><font size=+1> Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)</font></font> <p><font face="Comic Sans MS"> by Phil Beesley</font> <br> <br> <address> <i><font size=-1>This document is maintained by Phil Beesley (beesley@mandrake.demon.co.uk) to</font></i></address> <address> <i><font size=-1>whom all corrections, additions and queries should be addressed. This text</font></i></address> <address> <i><font size=-1>version* of the FAQ can be freely distributed so long as this notice is retained.</font></i></address> <address> <i><font size=-1>An HTML version of this FAQ is maintained at</font></i></address> <address> <i><font size=-1><a href="http://www.mandrake.demon.co.uk/Apple/lc_card_faq.html">http://www.mandrake.demon.co.uk/Apple/lc_card_faq.html</a>.</font></i></address> <address> <font color="#FFFFFF"><font size=-1>.</font></font></address> <address> <i><font size=-1>*Note: This is an HTML-ized version of the Text.</font></i></address> <br> <p> <p>Document date: 21st October 2000 <br> <p><font size=+1><a href="#sa">Section A - BASICS</a></font> <p> A1 - What is the Apple IIe card for the Macintosh LC? <p> A2 - Which Macintosh models and system software are supported? <p> A3 - Is Macintosh System 6 supported? <p> A4 - What is in the Apple IIe card kit? <p> A5 - What are the part numbers for the bits? <p> A6 - I have the card and Y-cable. What else do I need? <br> <p><font size=+1><a href="#sb">Section B - DISK DRIVES</a></font> <p> B1 - Which types of external disk drives are supported? <p> B2 - Does the card work without the Y-cable? <p> B3 - Can I use the Mac's built-in 3.5" drive? <p> B4 - Can I use ProDOS partitions on hard drives? <p> B5 - Can I create ProDOS partitions on an external Zip disk? <p> B6 - How do I create ProDOS hard disk partitions? <br> <p><font size=+1><a href="#sc">Section C - RESOURCES</a></font> <p> C1 - Where can I buy the Apple IIe card? <p> C2 - Where can I obtain the IIe card software? <p> C3 - Where can I obtain the manual? <p> C4 - Can I make my own Y-cable? <p> C5 - Where can I find photos of the IIe card? <br> <p><font size=+1><a href="#sd">Section D - USING THE CARD</a></font> <p> D1 - How do I get started in the Apple IIe environment? <p> D2 - Can I access AppleShare servers and AppleTalk printers? <p> D3 - Can I boot the IIe card from a file server? <p> D4 - How can I use ethernet on my Mac LC series computer? <br> <p><a NAME="sa"></a><font color="#FFFFFF">.</font> <br><font size=+1>Section A - BASICS</font> <p>A1 - What is the Apple IIe card for the Macintosh LC? <p>The IIe card creates a multi-featured Apple IIe inside an LC series <br>Macintosh. The hardware emulates many of the expansion cards that you would <br>install in a bare IIe, including 3.5" and 5.25" external drives, mouse, <br>memory, 80 column mono or colour display, clock, serial printer and modem , <br>SCSI hard drive and AppleShare fileserver. <p>The card plugs into the PDS slot in many of the LC series Macintoshes but not <br>all models and system software combinations are supported. You may not add <br>real Apple II expansion cards because the IIe card does not have real <br>expansion slots. <br> <p>A2 - Which Macintosh models and system software are supported? <p>Macs which have an LC-compatible PDS slot AND which support 24-bit memory <br>addressing can use the card. System 7.0 through to System 7.5.5 support both <br>24- and 32-bit addressing on suitable Macintosh models; from System 7.6 <br>onwards, Macintosh system software does not support 24-bit addressing. To <br>enable 24-bit addressing, use the Macintosh Memory control panel. <p>Apple's Tech Info Library article 8458 lists the following models as IIe card <br>compatible: LC, Colour Classic, LC II, LC III, LC 475, LC 520, LC 550, LC <br>575, Quadra 605, Performa 4XX, Performa 55X, Performa 56X, Performa 57X. <p>The Colour Classic II is not listed in Apple's article but *may* work. No <br>other model will work. <br> <p>A3 - Is Macintosh System 6 supported? <p>Yes, you should be able to use System 6.0.8 on the original LC. The <br>"unofficial" release 6.0.8L may also work with the LCII and Colour Classic. <br>Apart from the original LC, however, the official minimum system version for <br>these Macs is 7.0 or higher. <br> <p>A4 - What is in the Apple IIe card kit? <br>- LC-compatible PDS card <br>- Y-cable to support external disk drives and joystick <br>- manual -- "Apple IIe Card Owner's Guide" <br>- software -- "Apple IIe Startup Disk" <br> <p>A5 - What are the part numbers for the bits? <br>- complete package M0444LL/A <br>- cable 590-0703-A <br>- original software package 914-0403-A <br>- IIe card itself 820-0444-A <br>- original manual 030-5001-A <br>- "final" manual 030-1930-A <br> <p>A6 - I have the card and Y-cable. What else do I need? <br>- optional platinum 5.25 disk drive (A9M0107) <br>- optional white Unidisk 3.5" drive (A2M2053) <br>- optional external SCSI hard disk <br>- Joystick port device <p> <i><font face="Comic Sans MS"><a href="#top">_______to top of page________</a></font></i> <br> <br> <p><a NAME="sb"></a><font color="#FFFFFF">.</font> <br><font size=+1>Section B - DISK DRIVES</font> <p>B1 - Which types of external disk drives are supported? <br>Only the two drives listed in question A6 will work with the LC card. This is <br>explained in Apple's Tech Info Library article 8807. If the Unidisk 3.5" and <br>platinum 5.25" drives are used together, hookup the 3.5" drive first to the <br>Y-cable. <br> <p>B2 - Does the card work without the Y-cable? <br>Yes, but obviously you cannot use an external disk drive or joystick. <br> <p>B3 - Can I use the Mac's built-in 3.5" drive? <br>The built-in drive can be mapped as a Smartport device on Slot 5. 800Kb and <br>1.4Mb ProDOS formats are supported. The original LC was available with two <br>3.5" drives (ie no internal SCSI hard disk) and both drives can be accessed <br>by the IIe card. All other Macs in the LC family only support one floppy <br>drive. <p>Note that some copy protected software will not work from the built-in drive <br>and may require a genuine Unidisk 3.5" drive. <br> <p>B4 - Can I use ProDOS partitions on hard drives? <br>You can create a large number of ProDOS partitions on a SCSI hard disk but <br>only four can be mapped at any time as Smartport devices. When you start the <br>Macintosh, the ProDOS file system extension will mount the hard disk <br>partitions on the Mac desktop. Files can be dragged between Mac and ProDOS <br>volumes in the normal way to copy them. <p>When you start the IIe card software, ProDOS partitions are unmounted from <br>the Mac desktop until you quit using the IIe card. This prevents you from <br>accessing files simultaneously from Mac and Apple IIe environments. <br> <p>B5 - Can I use ProDOS partitions on an external Zip disk? <br>The author has not tested this. <br> <p>B6 - How do I create ProDOS hard disk partitions? <br>If you use "standard" utilities, you must completely reformat the hard disk <br>to create ProDOS partitions. Recent third-party utilities such as "FWB Hard <br>Disk Tools" *may* allow partitions to be changed without completely <br>formatting the disk. <p>The version of "Apple HD SC Setup" supplied on the "Apple IIe Startup Disk" <br>will only work with Apple brand hard disks. A patch utility is available <br>which modifies "Apple HD SC Setup 7.3.5" to work with non-Apple disks. <br>Information on the patch can be found at <br>http://www.euronet.nl/users/ernstoud/patch.html. <p>The "Apple IIe Startup Disk" contains System 6.0.8 in order to boot an <br>original LC Mac. This disk will not work with later versions of the LC <br>family. <p>You only need to boot from the software installation disk to format/partition <br>the LC series hard disk. The Apple IIe card support software can be installed <br>after booting the Mac from any startup disk. <p> <i><font face="Comic Sans MS"><a href="#top">_______to top of page________</a></font></i> <br> <br> <p><a NAME="sc"></a><font color="#FFFFFF">.</font> <br><font size=+1>Section C - RESOURCES</font> <p>C1 - Where can I buy the Apple IIe card? <br>The card was launched in 1991 but has been discontinued for several years. <br>You should be able to buy the card second hand for a few dollars in the US <br>but the card is more unusual and more expensive in other countries. Avoid <br>buying a card which does not include the Y-cable. <br> <p>C2 - Where can I obtain the IIe card software? <br>The final version of the "Apple IIe Startup Disk" is 2.2.x. Version 2.2.1 of <br>the complete software kit can be downloaded from <p>ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/ <br>English-North_American/Apple_II/For_Macintosh/Apple_IIe_Card_2.2.1.sea.hqx <p>A slightly later version of the "Apple II Startup" application is also <br>available from <p>ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/ <br>English-North_American/Apple_II/For_Macintosh/IIe_Startup_2.2.2d1.sea.hqx <br> <p>C3 - Where can I obtain the manual for the card and software? <br>Two versions of the manual can be downloaded in Adobe Acrobat PDF format from <br>the support area on Apple's web site but the location seems to change <br>periodically. Try performing a search for "IIe card" in the manuals section. <br>For use with version 2.2.1 of the software, you require the manual called <br>"0301930AppleIIeCrd2.1.pdf". <br> <p>C4 - Can I make my own Y-cable? <br>Possibly. The connector at the IIe card end uses an unusual connector (3 rows <br>of pins, 26 pins in total). The author will determine the pin out if anyone <br>asks. <br> <p>C5 - Where can I find photos of the IIe card? <br>The html version of this FAQ provides links to photos of the author's card <br>and screendumps of the card in use. The FAQ can be found at <p>http://www.mandrake.demon.co.uk/Apple/lc_card_faq.html <p> <i><font face="Comic Sans MS"><a href="#top">_______to top of page________</a></font></i> <br> <br> <p><a NAME="sd"></a><font color="#FFFFFF">.</font> <br><font size=+1>Section D - USING THE CARD</font> <p>D1 - How do I get started in the Apple IIe environment? <br>- In Macintosh mode, double-click on the "IIe Startup" icon. <br>- Alternatively, double-click on an Apple II .SYSTEM file on a ProDOS disk <br>volume to launch the desired application. <br>- Command-Control-Reset will reset the Apple IIe when running in this mode. <br>It will not reset the Mac. <br>- Command-Control-Escape in Apple IIe mode brings up the Apple IIe control <br>panel so that you can map slots and functions. <br>- Run DOS or Pascal applications in the same way you would use a real Apple <br>IIe. <br> <p>D2 - Can I access AppleShare servers and AppleTalk printers? <br>Yes, the IIe card contains all of the functionality of the Apple IIe <br>Workstation card. You do not need to install any special drivers but you do <br>need the Chooser and Logon tools which are on the Workstation card disk. This <br>disk is not available from Apple's FTP site at the time of writing. <br> <p>D3 - Can I boot the IIe card from a file server? <br>Yes, you can boot from a suitable AppleShare file server just like a real <br>IIe. You do not need to install any additional software for the Mac or IIe <br>card. If you do not have an AppleShare server, you can access shared folders <br>on your network but you must boot the IIe card from a floppy or hard disk. <br> <p>D4 - How can I use ethernet on my Mac LC series computer? <br>If you install the IIe card, it will use the only PDS expansion slot in your <br>Mac so you will not be able to use an internal ethernet adapter. <p>Some LC family Macs have an additional Comms slot that will take an ethernet <br>adapter. Apple warn that these adapters may not be compatible with the Apple <br>IIe card. <p>SCSI ethernet adapters are available second hand. These are not as fast as a <br>proper internal adapter but are much better than LocalTalk or an adapter that <br>plugs into a LocalTalk port (eg Farallon Etherwave). <p>If you use an external ethernet adapter for your networking, you will be able <br>to use it for your IIe card's network connection without any additional <br>software. <br> <br> <p><i><font face="Comic Sans MS"><a href="#top">to top of page</a></font></i> <br> <br> <br> </body> </html>