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Title: Unschooling
Author: Peter Gray
Date: September 15 2011 to July 12, 2014
Language: en
Topics: unschooling, deschooling, parenting, education, family
Source: Retrieved on December 31 2014 from http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/freedom-learn
Notes: Two original series of research (Unschooling Families and Unschooled Adults) by educational freedom advocate Peter Gray, in one convenient location. Minimal changes to the original text

Peter Gray

Unschooling

Part I: Unschooling Families

What Is Unschooling? Invitation to a Survey

Unschooling is a growing, radical educational movement that deserves

attention.

Published on September 15, 2011 by Peter Gray in Freedom to Learn

Unschooling is a movement that turns conventional thinking about

education upside down. I'd like to learn more about it and tell the

world more about it, and for that reason I'm conducting a survey of

unschooling families. If you are a member of such a family and are

willing to participate, you can find the form here. If you can't find it

that way, you can request the form from me by email, at grayp@bc.edu.

The form itself contains all the information you need to complete and

return it. It's short and not hard to complete. I would be very grateful

for your participation. I invite you also to forward the form, or a link

to this post, to other unschooling families, so they might also

participate. (I plan to analyze the responses beginning in late

November, so please return your form before November 23, 2011).

[Note added Januay 8, 2012: The survey is now closed. Note added April

17, 2012: Results of the survey are now posted, as Report I (on benefits

of unschooling); Report II (on paths to unschooling), and Report III (on

challenges to unschooling. But read on, here, for more on unschooling.]

Here's some of what I know already about unschooling, before conducting

the survey. Defined most simply, unschooling is not schooling.

Unschoolers do not send their children to school and they do not do at

home the kinds of things that are done at school. More specifically,

they do not establish a curriculum for their children, they do not

require their children to do particular assignments for the purpose of

education, and they do not test their children to measure progress.

Instead, they allow their children freedom to pursue their own interests

and to learn, in their own ways, what they need to know to follow those

interests. They also, in various ways, provide an environmental context

and environmental support for the child's learning. Life and learning do

not occur in a vacuum; they occur in the context of a cultural

environment, and unschooling parents help define and bring the child

into contact with that environment.

All in all, unschoolers have a view of education that is 180 degrees

different from that of our standard system of schooling. They believe

that education is something that children (and people of all ages) do

for themselves, not something done to them, and they believe that

education is a normal part of all of life, not something separate from

life that occurs at special times in special places.

Nobody knows just how many kids in the United States are currently

unschoolers. For official record-keeping purposes, unschoolers are

lumped in with homeschoolers. State laws don't allow parents to just

take their kids out of school; parents have to somehow prove that their

kids are being educated at home, and that puts them into the

homeschooling category. Homeschooling, overall, is growing at an

accelerating rate. According to the National Center for Educational

Statistics, which conducts a survey every 4 years, there were in the

United States about 850,000 homeschooled kids (age 5 to 17) in 1999, 1.1

million in 2003, and 1.5 million in 2007. Stated as percentages of all

school-aged kids, these numbers translate to 1.7% in 1999, 2.2% in 2003,

and 2.9% in 2007. The data aren't in yet for 2011, but if we extrapolate

the curve from the previous years, we might guess that today close to 4%

of all school-aged kids are classed as homeschoolers.

People involved in the homeschooling movement estimate that roughly 10%

of homeschoolers are unschoolers, which seems reasonable to me based on

the proportions of them seen at homeschooling conventions. If this is

true, then upwards of 150,000 kids are unschooling in the United States

today and the numbers are increasing at an accelerating rate from year

to year. The estimate would be even higher, perhaps much higher, if

so-called "relaxed homeschoolers" were included. These are families who

"sort of" have a curriculum for their kids but don't necessarily follow

it or enforce it. All in all, unschooling is a very significant

educational movement, because it involves such a large number of kids

and it violates so sharply the standard view that kids must be forced to

learn an imposed curriculum if they are going to succeed.

Academic researchers have steered clear of any serious study of

unschooling, just as they have steered clear of Sudbury model schools

and all other innovations in education that deny the value of an imposed

curriculum. The one exception is a 2008 Ph.D. dissertation by Donna

Harel Kirschner, at the University of Pennsylvania's Department of

Anthropology. Kirschner interviewed and conducted home visits of 22

unschooling families, familiarized herself with the literature on

unschooling, and wrote a dissertation describing the philosophy and

practices of the families she studied. Unfortunately, Kirschner's work

has not appeared in any academic or non-academic publications, and the

dissertation itself is hard to obtain. You can purchase a copy of it

from ProQuest Digital Dissertations (or get it free from them if you

happen to have membership status at a subscribing university library).

The full title is Producing Unschoolers: Learning Through Living in a

U.S. Educational Movement.

But you can learn much more about unschooling by perusing the websites

and reading the books of those who are involved in the movement. If you

Google unschooling, you will find many choices available, but here are a

few such resources that I am familiar with and recommend:

• Pat Farenga's website. Pat Farenga is perhaps the foremost authority

on unschooling. He worked closely with John Holt, the noted author on

children and learning, until the latter's untimely death in 1985. Holt's

books, including How Children Fail and How Children Learn, published in

the 1960s and ‘70s, are still seen as guiding lights by most people in

the unschooling movement, and Pat has done much to keep those writings

in press and available. Holt coined the term unschooling and founded the

magazine Growing Without Schooling in the 1970s, and Pat continued to

publish the magazine after Holt's death, from 1985 until 2001. Pat is a

very popular writer, speaker, and media consultant on unschooling and

has served as counselor to many new unschoolers and homeschoolers. At

Pat's website you can find, among other things, Pat's blog, book

reviews, videos relevant to unschooling, and a link to the full set of

issues of Growing Without Schooling.

• Life Learning Magazine. When Growing Without Schooling stopped

publication, Life Learning Magazine became the leading journal of the

unschooling movement. The magazine is packed with well-written articles

about the philosophy and practice of unschooling. Since 2008 the

magazine has been completely digital. The editor, Wendy Priesnitz, is

herself a terrific author. You can find her blog at this site and links

to her other writings. I particularly recommend her brief book,

Challenging Assumptions in Education. The assumptions she challenges are

these: Education is something that is done to you; Knowledge belongs to

a cult of experts; Others know best what children should learn; Schools

provide effective training; and Schools have a noble purpose.

• The Natural Child Project. Here you can find well-written,

thought-provoking articles not just on unschooling but on all aspects of

parenting, including breastfeeding and the whole range of issues having

to do with family harmony. The unschooling movement is very much linked

to the larger natural child-raising movement, and here you see that link

clearly. You can also subscribe here to the Natural Child Newsletter and

can find links to writings by Jan Hunt and others. Jan is editor of the

newsletter and author of The Natural Child: Parenting from the Heart.

She is also co-editor (with her son Jason) of The Unschooling Unmanual,

which I recently read and enjoyed. It is an excellent collection of

essays relevant to unschooling, including one by the novelist Daniel

Quinn, one by John Holt, and two by Hunt herself.

• Sandra Dodd's Radical Unschooling Website. This is another great

unschooling website, which I just recently discovered. Its explicit aim

is to provide practical information, resources, and encouragement to

people who have taken the unschooling path. You can find here clear,

well-written essays on almost every topic relevant to unschooling, links

to books and other sites relevant to unschooling, and an up-to-date list

of state, regional, and national organizations devoted to unschooling.

As is true also of Pat Farenga, Wendy Priesnitz, and Jan Hunt, Sandra is

an unschooling parent herself, so her words come not just from theory

and reading, but also from first-hand experience.

The Benefits of Unschooling: Report I from a Large Survey

What, to unschoolers, are the benefits of skipping school?

Published on February 28, 2012 by Peter Gray in Freedom to Learn

Five months ago, in September, 2011, I posted an essay (here)

introducing readers to the unschooling movement and inviting unschooling

families to participate in a survey. The survey questionnaire—which was

posted on Pat Farenga's Learning Without School site and Jan Hunt's

Natural Child Project site—asked unschooling families to tell us a bit

about their family, including the age and sex of each child, the

employment of each parent, and the history of schooling, homeschooling,

and unschooling of each child. It also asked the respondents to define

unschooling as it is practiced in their home, to describe the path that

led them to unschooling, and to tell us about the biggest challenges and

benefits of unschooling for their family. My colleague Gina Riley

(adjunct professor of special education at Hunter College) and I have

been working on analyzing the results and preparing a report for

publication in an educational journal.

Here, in a series of reports in this blog, my intention is to present a

more informal report of the survey results. In this first report, I

present some general statistics about the families who responded and

then focus on their definitions of unschooling and their statements

about the benefits of unschooling. In subsequent reports I'll focus on

their paths to unschooling and the biggest challenges of unschooling.

One thing I can do here, which we won't be able to do in the more formal

academic article, is to present many quotations from the survey forms.

Many of the respondents are eloquent writers, who had no trouble putting

their enthusiasm for unschooling into words.

Who responded to the survey?

In all, 254 families responded to the survey. However, for 23 of these

families the oldest child had not yet reached school age (which we took

to be 5 years old), and we chose not to include those families for the

purpose of our main analyses. This left us with 231 unschooling

families. Of these, 186 were from the United States, 19 were from

Canada, and the remaining 26 were from other countries, mostly in

Europe. The respondents from the US came from 34 different states, the

most frequently represented of which are California (23), New York (14),

and Oregon (10).

Of the 231 families, 48 had one child, 104 had two children, 51 had

three, and the rest had four or more. In the great majority of families

(220), the person who filled out the questionnaire was the mom; in nine

families it was the dad, and in two families it was an unschooled child

(now an adult). Most (209) of the families appeared to be two-parent

families (as best as we could judge from the questionnaires), with both

parents (or one parent and a step-parent) living at home. Twenty-one

families were headed by single mothers, and one was headed by a single

dad.

Concerning employment, roughly half of the mothers identified themselves

as stay-at-home moms (often with part-time jobs), and the remaining were

relatively evenly split among those employed as professionals of one

type or another, self-employed enrepreneurs, and "other". The great

majority of the fathers were employed full time and were also relatively

evenly split among professionals, self-employed entrepreneurs, and

others.

It should be clear to anyone reading this report that this is not a

random sample of all unschoolers. Rather, the respondents are those who

in one way or another found the survey form and took the trouble to fill

it out and email it to me. One might expect that, as a whole, these are

among the most enthusiastic unschoolers, the ones who are most eager to

share their experiences. The general claims I make here apply only to

the group who responded, not necessarily to the whole population of

unschoolers.

How did the respondents define unschooling?

In my earlier post, in which I announced the survey, I defined

unschooling simply as not schooling. I elaborated by saying:

"Unschoolers do not send their children to school and they do not do at

home the kinds of things that are done at school. More specifically,

they do not establish a curriculum for their children, they do not

require their children to do particular assignments for the purpose of

education, and they do not test their children to measure progress.

Instead, they allow their children freedom to pursue their own interests

and to learn, in their own ways, what they need to know to follow those

interests. They also, in various ways, provide an environmental context

and environmental support for the child's learning. Life and learning do

not occur in a vacuum; they occur in the context of a cultural

environment, and unschooling parents help define and bring the child

into contact with that environment."

In the survey, one of our items was: "Please describe briefly how your

family defines unschooling. What if any responsibility do you, as

parent(s), assume for the education of your children? [I am asking only

for generalities here. I may ask for more details in a subsequent

survey.]"

Essentially all of the respondents emphasized the role of their children

in directing their own education and in pointing out that education is

not separate from life itself. The responses varied, however, in the

ways they described the parents' roles. We coded the responses, somewhat

arbitrarily, into three categories--which I'll simply refer to as

Categories 1, 2, and 3--according to the degree to which they mentioned

deliberate roles the parents played in guiding and/or motivating their

child's education. I should emphasize that these categories do not have

to do with the degree to which the parents are involved in the child's

daily lives, but just with the degree to which that involvement,

according to the parents' descriptions, was deliberately directed toward

the child's education. [1]

By our coding, 100 (43%) of the responses fell into Category 1. These

were the responses that most most strongly emphasized the role of the

child and did not describe parental activities conducted specifically

for the purpose of the child's eduction, other than being responsive to

the child's wishes or the child's lead. As illustration, one respondent

in this category wrote: "Unschooling equals freedom in learning and in

life. We push aside paradigms and established regulations with regards

to schooling and trust our children to pave their own way in their own

educations. Everything they want to experience has value. We trust

them." Another wrote: "Unschooling, for us, means there is absolutely no

curriculum, agenda, timetable, or goal setting. The children are

responsible for what, how, and when they learn."

By our coding, 96 (42%) of the responses fell into Category 2. These

differed from Category 1 only in that they made some mention of

deliberate parental roles in guiding or motivating their children's

education. As illustration, one in this category wrote: "We define

unschooling as creating an enriching environment for our children where

natural learning and passions can flourish. We want our life to be about

connection—to each other, to our interests and passions, to a joyful

life together....As a parent, I am my children's experienced partner and

guide and I help them to gain access to materials and people that they

might not otherwise have access to. I introduce them to things, places,

people that I think might be interesting to them, but I do not push them

or feel rejected or discouraged if they do not find it interesting...."

Finally, 35 (15%) of the responses fell into Category 3. These were

responses that might be considered as falling at the borderline between

unchooling and what is sometimes called "relaxed homeschooling." The

parents in these cases seemed to have at least some relatively specific

educational goals in mind for their children and seemed to work

deliberately toward achieving those goals. As illustration, one in this

category wrote: "We believe that, for the most part, our daughter should

be encouraged to explore subjects that are of interest to her, and it is

our responsibility as parents to make learning opportunities available

to her... I usually ask her to learn something or do something new or

educational every day (and I explain to her why learning something new

every day is such a cool thing to do!)."

What, to these families, are the benefits of unschooling?

The question about benefits came last in the questionnaire. It was

worded as follows: "What, for your family, have been the biggest

benefits of unschooling?" This was the question that led to the most

prolific and often eloquent answers. The most common categories of

benefits were the following:

1. Learning advantages for the child. At least 132 respondents (57% of

the total) mentioned benefits that fell in this category. They said that

their children were learning more, or learning more efficiently, or

learning more relevant material, or learning more eagerly in the

unschooling situation than they would if they were in school or being

schooled at home. Many in this category said that because their children

were in charge of their own learning, their curiosity and eagerness to

learn remained intact.

2. Emotional and social advantages for the child. At least 116

respondents (50% of the total) mentioned benefits that fell in this

category. They said that their children were happier, less stressed,

more self-confident, more agreeable, or more socially outgoing than they

would be if they were in school or being schooled at home. Many in this

category referred to the social advantages; their children interacted

regularly with people of all ages in the community, not just with kids

their own age as they would if they were in school.

3. Family closeness. At least 131 respondents (57% of the total)

mentioned benefits that fell in this category. They wrote that because

of unschooling they could spend more time together as a family, do what

they wanted to together, and that the lack of hassle over homework or

other schooling issues promoted warm, harmonious family relationships.

4. Family freedom from the schooling schedule. At least 84 (36% of the

total) mentioned benefits in this category. They said that freedom from

the school's schedule allowed the children and the family as a whole to

operate according to more natural rhythms of their own choice and to

take trips that would otherwise be impossible. Some also mentioned that

because of the free schedule, their kids could get jobs or participate

in community projects that would be impossible if they had to be in

school during the day.

A sample of quotations about the benefits of unschooling

For the remainder of this post, I'm pasting in 33 quotations, from the

questionnaires, about the benefits of unschooling. The quotations

reflect the views and the enthusiasm of these unschooling families much

better than any paraphrasing I could provide. Since many of you are not

going to read through the whole list of quotes, I'll note here (rather

than at the end) that I welcome your comments and questions. What if any

experiences do you have with unschooling? Can you imagine it working for

your family? If you were to do a survey of unschooling families, what

questions would you want to ask? This blog is a forum for discussion,

and your views and knowledge are valued and taken seriously, by me and

by other readers. As always, I prefer if you post your comments and

questions here rather than send them to me by private email. By putting

them here, you share with other readers, not just with me. I read all

comments and try to respond to all serious questions. Of course, if you

have something to say that truly applies only to you and me, then send

me an email. —But now, read on....

Each quotation comes from a different questionnaire.

• "Wow...this list could be miles long! More time together, less

arguing, watching our daughter spend hours absorbed in things that she

is pursuing on her own, seeing her getting enough sleep and not coming

down with viruses that she used to catch at school, exploring museums

and other community resources together, talking as a family every day,

not rushing in the morning, no homework, no mandatory school functions,

no dysfunctional school social environment, no lunch to pack, no papers

to fill out and send back every day, no fundraising, seeing our daughter

happy with who she is and what she is doing, not worrying about

tests/grades/teacher's opinions, spending money that used to be spent on

tuition or curriculum supplies on things that she truly wants to learn

about. The biggest, number one benefit has to be our family

relationships, though. What a difference now that we actually have time

for each other! School did not just keep [our child] busy; it

overwhelmed the whole family."

• "Children who are full of joy, full of love for learning, creative,

self-directed, passionate, enthusiastic, playful, thoughtful,

questioning, and curious. Siblings who are very good friends. Close

family bond among all of us. Lots of time together. Ability to

experience and explore the world."

• "Oh my, the benefits are enormous. ... Lifelong curiosity, family

closeness, extraordinary success as my children step into academia and

careers, and the empowerment that comes with being oneself in a world

relentlessly telling us that we're only what we look like or own. I see

it every weekend when my college kids are home and my research biologist

daughter is back from work. They sit at the table long after dinner is

over, talking about their admittedly esoteric interests and bantering as

only those who love each other do. Then, even as adults, they push away

from the table to go work on a project together, something that has

bonded them for years. As the day stretches out they finally gather on

the porch, reluctant to part, still conversing and planning and

laughing. I can't imagine greater riches."

• "Enjoying a family-centered life rather than an institution-centered

life has been the biggest benefit of unschooling. Our late riser can

rise late and our early morning lover can get up early. We don't need to

wrap our lives around the schedule of a school. Our kids learn all the

time, instead of being trained to learn one subject at a time, in

50-minute increments bookended by bells. We are incredibly fortunate to

live in a time and place where we enjoy the free life of unschooling."

• "The other big benefit is that my kids have such a love of learning

and of life, which was never destroyed by conventional school. So we

don't have the kind of power struggles that other parents seem to have

over bedtimes and homework. ... After all, happy relationships should

ideally not be based on power issues. I can truly say that we are free

of that, and that we spend time together as a family not because we are

forced to, but because we enjoy it and love each other. What could be

better than that?"

• "Seeing the kids learn things naturally, and at their own pace without

forcing them. Seeing the amount of creativity and imagination my kids

have because they aren't expected to conform and be followers. Seeing

them become very involved and interested in subjects that I wouldn't

have imagined."

• "When I am around friends whose kids are in school, I am struck by how

much of their lives center around school. Get to bed so you can get up

so you can be there on time, pack lunch, get home so you can do

homework, organize all your stuff so you'll have it the next day. There

are so many disagreements and struggles around all of this stuff-YUCK.

It's life-changing just not having to have a schedule and nag everyone

all the time to keep up with it!"

• "The children can delve deeper into subjects that matter to them,

spend longer on topics that interest them. . . . The children can

participate in the real world, learn real life skills, converse with

people of all ages. They do not have to waste time with endless review,

boring homework, having to work above or beneath their abilities, or in

unpleasant power dynamics with adults with whom they have no connection.

They can be themselves, and learn about themselves, and become who they

truly want to be."

• "The world, and all of its amazing opportunities, truly is my

children's playground. My husband and I firmly believe that if our

children have freedom and the opportunity to explore and follow their

interests now that, as they mature and have to work, they will have a

much better chance of truly knowing what they would like to do and will

find their careers and adult life both worthwhile and enjoyable."

• "Watching our daughter relax and enjoy her days is immensely

satisfying, especially against the backdrop of her past few schooled

years. The freedom from school and its expectations, the freedom to be,

to live, has been liberating for all of us."

• "Watching my children learn so much so effortlessly. I watched my 5

year old daughter teach herself to read and write. It was the most

amazing thing to watch. It was like she was a codebreaker."

• "The biggest benefits have been witnessing our daughters' creativity

blossom full force, their ability to think outside the box when

presented with problems, their resourcefulness, and their genuine desire

to ask questions and learn as much as they can about the world around

them. Also, seeing them internalize the lesson that making mistakes is a

necessary and wonderful platform for growth and further learning, which

means they see mistakes as a positive and necessary part of their

education. They're not afraid to try their hand at just about anything."

• "Trust!. This unschooling path has taught me to trust my instincts and

to trust my children to know what feels right to them. There is no

perfect life but mistakes are our mirror to see what we would have done

differently and how we will decide now with the knowledge we have."

• "The list is endless: Most important: that learning was simply a

normal part of everyday life, as natural and as necessary as

breathing-never something confined to a specific place or time. But

also: Being able to spend so much time together, getting to know each

other so well. Being able to travel whenever we wanted (useful when the

girls began fencing competitively, too-we never had to worry about

school releases). That the girls OWNED their learning-despite their

occasional doubts, by the time they reached adulthood, they knew how to

go about learning anything they were interested in because they'd been

able to do that all their lives. That the girls grew up curious and

could indulge that curiosity. That the girls were not subjected to

school textbooks and could read what we still think of as "real" books.

That the girls learned for themselves how to organize and prioritize

their time and energy to get things done. That we had the leisure not

only to learn what and where we wanted, but to figure out the best ways

we learned, which could change from year to year and subject to subject.

That nobody had to ask permission for bathroom breaks. That we could eat

while we read if we wanted to."

• "The curiosity that he had as a 3 or 4 year old is still there. He

thinks life is interesting and fun. He has confidence in his ability to

do anything he wants to do."

• "A huge reduction in stress for our kids and me... being able to sleep

and eat on our own natural schedule ...learning at their own pace, in

ways that work best for them, information and skills that they chose to

learn, and therefore coming to enjoy learning!

Freedom! [My children] got to live as free people, and blossomed as

individuals! They had the time to figure out who they are, what they

enjoy and are interested in; had opportunities to learn and do all kinds

of interesting things that schooled children typically don't have time

for; were free from the bullying and threats (from the teachers) at

school; and had a group of homeschooled friends who were/are very nice,

generally happy and optimistic, friendly, interesting and interested

people."

• "Another huge benefit is that [my son's] stress levels are way down,

and he is happy. I realized by keeping him in school, I was stifling his

creativity, his passions, and teaching him he must put those things on

the back burner and conform to what society thinks is best for him to

learn.... He wants to work and make money, and now he is also free to

contribute to society in a valuable way instead of being in a classroom

all day."

• "I got my son back. The school wanted him ‘diagnosed' with something

he doesn't have... he's just a super creative, intensely sensitive kid

who has so much to offer the world just as he is. ... He has never had a

problem getting along with other kids. He makes friends everywhere he

goes and is still in touch with his school friends too. Unschooling has

been such a blessing for us it has taken the stress off of my son (as

well as me) and allows him to follow his bliss... and create and imagine

and think for himself. He reads better now than he ever did in school."

• "One example is that of control. My youngest is a walking power

struggle; she can turn any moment into a fight for control. By allowing

her education be her choice and responsibility, we have a far better

relationship and she spends her energy learning instead of fighting. (We

have enough to fight over with whether she will brush her teeth or wear

weather-appropriate clothes, after all.)"

• "I feel like I'm trying to answer a question about the benefits of

breathing. We don't have to schedule, assume, judge, direct, or

anxiously evaluate. We just get to enjoy each other. My son gets to live

a life focused on what he loves at the moment."

• "I love watching my kids grow and learn and ask questions. I love

having one less thing to worry about (finding the time for "school") and

I love being able to skip curriculum shopping and planning. I also look

around at other homeschoolers and feel sorry for their constant stress

and worry. (Is my kid learning enough? Did we pick the right curriculum?

How much does homeschooling cost?) I see traditional homeschoolers so

burned out by the stress they make for themselves. Don't they know their

kids will learn despite them?"

• "Hands down, the relationship with our kids has flourished. We have

never gone through the typical teen angst or rebellion so often touted

as normal. I don't think it is. If you build up your family life where

members work together and help one another, where the focus is on happy

learning, it's hard NOT to get along and enjoy each other's company!

Schools have an insidious way of pitting parents against kids and

eroding the relationship that could flourish outside of that

environment. When kids, and all people really, can relax and enjoy life

and learn and pursue interests, they are happy. When people are happy,

they get along better, they work together and inspire one another, learn

from one another and grow stronger and healthier. All of that has

spilled over into marriage life and all family relationships, including

siblings. I knew without a doubt that the learning would happen and that

it would be amazing! I didn't expect the stark difference in our

relationship with our kids, as compared to what I thought it should be

like by what I saw in other families with kids in school."

• "Watching our children's interest in learning grow rather than

diminish, and seeing them use their knowledge regularly in conversation

and in play with others, rather than "dumping" it after a test."

• "The happiness and joy we experience every day is the biggest benefit.

Our lives are essentially stress free since we are living our lives the

way we want by making the choices that feel good for us. We have a very

close relationship built on love, mutual trust, and mutual respect. As

an educator I see that my daughter has amazing critical thinking skills

that many of my adult college students lack. ... My daughter lives and

learns in the real world and loves it. What more could I ask for?"

• "Looking at my grown children, I can see that both are securely

self-motivated, both are much more social and outgoing than I was at

their ages, both are living lives they have crafted out of their own

interests and talents. That is deeply satisfying. In addition, we all

have a strong connection which has grown directly from our shared

experiences throughout their childhoods."

• "I have seen my sons' passions bloom. They are happy and expressive

and take pride in themselves and their projects. They are knowledgeable

about so many more things than their schooled peers. They have a mindset

that is not hampered by negativity or limitations, something more common

with their schooled peers. They have big imaginations."

• "My daughters are very creative and artistic, loved college way more

(they reported) than their burned-out-about-institutions peers, are

skeptical and generally science-minded, and are ethical people."

• "Unschooling saved both my children's self-esteem, for different

reasons. [My son] was pegged as a ‘bad' kid at school, and, had he

continued down the path he was going (with the school and teachers

openly hostile towards him), the damage school was causing him would

have led him to self-medicate through alcohol and drugs by the time he

was in high school. When we withdrew him from school, not only did his

self esteem return but the close, trusting relationship we had before he

went to pre-school returned. [My daughter] was diagnosed with learning

disabilities and I was told she would never read on grade level and she

was always going to need special services. Keeping her out of school and

letting her learn at her own pace prevented her from a lifetime of

feeling like she was stupid."

• "Unschooling is not a panacea that prevents all unhappiness or

difficulty; it's important not to oversimplify or romanticize this. Our

daughters have had problems and struggles like all teenagers do in our

society. They are extremely smart and well-educated, but I think that

would be true if they had gone to school. I think the biggest difference

is that they know themselves better than we did at their age. They may

be a little closer to their true path in life. That was certainly our

hope, and if it turns out to be true, it's worth a lot."

• "This cannot be answered except by the children themselves. For us as

parents the child's joy is all the benefit needed. Today, our children

have their own children and they also have chosen to unschool. Daily

they face a life that is entirely different from those things that came

our way during their childhood."

• "The peace, the joy, the trust between us far exceeds anything I

imagined possible in parent/child relationships. Seeing [my daughter] be

who she is! Her self-confidence, her curiosity, the joy with which she

lives are all strong characteristics that I think would have been

damaged by school. Watching her engaged in the things that move her has

been a lesson in and of itself for all the adults in her life--she is

the most focused human being I've ever met. She can work for hours on

something that is meaningful to her--nothing she wants is "hard" or

"work" even, so my language isn't correct. (I'm sure if she were in

school, though, she'd be labeled as having ADD)."

• "My daughter's happiness, her curiosity, her love of exploration, her

freedom. Our freedom as a family, the cooperative nature of our

relationships and the trust between us that remains intact."

What Leads Families to “Unschool” Their Children? Report II

Why 232 families chose to trust their children's educative instincts

Published on March 26, 2012 by Peter Gray in Freedom to Learn

This is the second in a series of three reports on a survey of

unschooling families that I conducted in the Fall of 2011. In the first

report, which you can find here, I described the survey method, gave

some demographic information about the families that responded, and

summarized their responses to questions about the definition and

benefits of unschooling as applied to their family. [In that report I

said that 231 families with children age 5 or older responded to the

survey. I now add the minor correction that this number was actually 232

families. We inadvertently omitted one family in the initial

tabulation.]

Briefly, for those who are new to the topic and have not yet read Report

I, families who identify themselves as unschoolers are those that do not

send their children to school and do not do at home the kinds of things

that are done at school. More specifically, they do not establish a

curriculum for their children, do not require their children to do

particular assignments for the purpose of education, and do not test

their children to measure progress. Instead, they allow their children

freedom to pursue their own interests and to learn, in their own ways,

what they need to know to follow those interests. They also, in various

ways, provide an environmental context and environmental support for the

child's learning. To learn more about the various ways by which

unschoolers operationalize these ideas, and the benefits that these

families see in unscholing--both for the child and for the family as a

whole--look back at Report I.

My goal now, in Report II, is to describe the paths by which the

families that responded to the survey came to unschooling. This report

is based on a qualitative analysis that my colleague Gina Riley and I

made of the responses to Item 6 on the survey form, which reads as

follows:

6. Please describe the path by which your family came to the unschooling

philosophy you now practice. In particular: (a) Did any specific school

experiences of one or more of your children play a role? If so, briefly

describe those experiences. (b) Did any particular author or authors

play a role? If so, please name the author or authors and what most

appealed to you about their writing. (c) Did you try homeschooling

before unschooling? If so, what led you from one to the other?

Here, in brief, is what we found:

The decision to remove a child (or children) from school

In response to Question 6a, 101 of the 232 families indicated that at

least one of their children attended school prior to starting

unschooling, and that the child's experience in school led them to

remove the child from school. In their explanations, 38 of these

families referred specifically to the rigidity of the school's rules or

the authoritarian nature of the classroom as reason for removing the

child; 32 referred to the wasted time, the paltry amount of learning

that occurred, and/or to the child's boredom, loss of curiosity, or

declining interest in learning; and 32 referred to their child's

unhappiness, anxiety, or condition of being bullied. [Note: The numbers

here and elsewhere in this report are all approximations, as they depend

on interpretation of the written statements.]

Here, as illustration, is a representative sample of quotations from

respondents' answers to Question 6a (names have been removed in each

case):

Responses emphasizing rigidity of rules and authoritarian nature of the

classroom:

bringing a 'weapon' to school. The 'weapon' was a can of silly string."

something I thought most young kids were, naturally."

kids. One example: kids who understood things quickly in math still had

to go through the tedious process of 'showing their work' even if they

could figure it out in their heads. Our daughter was bored and

frustrated with this kind of busy work. She was getting punished (loss

of recess) for not doing her homework, yet got very good grades on her

report card and a perfect score on her first MCAS exam."

his letters, I knew this was wrong and that all kids learn at a

different pace."

home exhausted and quite frankly full of nastiness. They weren't the

nice people we remembered them to be. Once we brought them all home,

they became 'people' again."

ask for permission to urinate and permission to eat. She told us that

she was unwilling to do that, and we decided, with the school, to

withdraw her after a few days of her leaving the school grounds and

coming home."

Responses emphasizing boredom, wasted time, or loss of interest in

learning in school:

clear to me that being forced to follow someone else's idea of a

curriculum was counterproductive, to the point of making them 'hate'

learning (we found this intolerable)."

hour of homework (reading comprehension and math worksheets) every

night, for a 6 year old! The work was too easy for him, and he hated it

and dragged his feet every night, and we resented the intrusion into our

family life and relaxing time."

which my kids were stuck sitting still and doing absolutely nothing."

natural curiosity and love of learning. Too many hours in school and

then working on homework. He said to me, 'Mom, when is my time?' It was

breaking my heart."

slaves to the school's schedule even after school hours and on weekends.

Additionally, we found that our oldest child was losing his love of

learning, and our 2nd child did not have enough time for her passion and

gift - the performing arts."

Responses emphasizing the child's unhappiness, anxiety, or being bullied

at school:

issues. Lack of physical exercise. Lack of family time. Discipline

problems.... I was literally dragging my kids to school they hated it so

much."

that frustration led me to explore other options, but I didn't pursue

any at that time. Later when the same child was in 3rd grade the

workload and his frustration level with it, while still achieving

"advanced" grades, seemed incongruous. He was working longer hours at

school than his father spent at work. For what purpose?"

No Child Left Behind was implemented), wasn't eating at lunchtime, was

overcome by the noise and smells, and was distracted in the classroom.

My younger daughter was bored and beginning to refuse to participate in

classroom activities. My older daughter had been unhappy her entire

school career - I kept thinking she'd outgrow it, but she didn't. Things

finally got to the breaking point and I pulled them out without having a

plan, but knowing I could definitely do better than the school. I was

done sending them someplace that made them so sad and created so much

tension in our family."

were miserable. Due to misconceptions and lack of exposure to

homeschooling (forget unschooling, even homeschooling is not common in

India), we did not realize that it was a viable option, 'till

desperation led us to consider it."

my son physically and verbally. and after two years of taking it he

pushed one of his bullies back and was suddenly in trouble (the bully

was not in trouble even though it was witnessed by several teachers him

being a bully toward my son) The school repeatedly set my son up to fail

and ignored my requests and demands for change. Then they called a

meeting to discuss what to do 'about my son' instead of what they could

to FOR HIM... I told them that there would be no such meeting...."

Eventually she stopped even doing maths and went from top of the class

to bottom. This was due to a maths teacher who used to mock her and make

her feel small."

one of her friends had been verbally threatened (the term used was

'YOU'RE DEAD MEAT') by another classmate, pushed up against a wall, and

told that the classmate's older cousins were going to get her. I was

appalled that this was happening to 8 year olds and that, upon talking

to my daughter's teacher about this incident, this type of interaction

was not considered alarming by the teaching staff. I never want my

children to accept and numb themselves to think that treating other

humans horrendously, unloving, and unkindly is normal! I wanted my

children to know that a loving, more nurturing world exists, thus we

began homeschooling!"

emotionally damaged from his school experiences that we were shocked to

see how quickly his personality rebounded within a month or two."

The transition from homeschooling to unschooling

In response to Question 6c, 110 of the 232 families said they had tried

homeschooling before transitioning to unschooling. As explanation for

this transition, most of these families described the child's resistance

to the home curriculum, the family's unhappiness by the stress the

curriculum created, and/or the parents' observations that the child was

learning much more on his or her own initiative than through the imposed

curriculum. Here is a representative sample of quotations illustrating

these explanations:

Meadow curriculum. I think I was in love with the idea of 'playing

school' like I was a little girl again! I loved ordering all the

supplies and books and planning our 'lessons.' But each year, after a

few weeks, I'd eventually start leafing through the pages trying to find

content that was relevant, appealing, something that wouldn't make us

both nod off! And when tears started flowing over math drill, I knew

there had to be a better way. I started to question why it was necessary

for my son to learn this thing at this time, and then realized, simply,

that it wasn't."

then-5-year-old wholeheartedly rejected any attempts at regimentation.

He learned twice as much if I simply strewed resources in his path and

let him go. Unschooling is all that works for him."

to do it that way for him to learn. ... We were both stressed and

dreaded sitting down at the table for the day's lessons. Gradually, I

started pulling back and began to see that the more I pulled back, the

more he flourished. Eventually, we began to ditch curriculum and strict

schedules until it evolved into unschooling."

reluctance to do them gradually led us to unschooling (anything looking

like instructions made her run away and we didn't want this kind of

relationship)."

pushed school-like activities on my kids in the transition time just

after we left school. ... Eventually I saw with my own eyes and heart

that anything my kids chose on their own was more meaningful, pleasant,

and long-lasting than something I coerced them to do."

responsible for making him do his homework, but for teaching him as

well. Too much pressure for both of us. We were both miserable."

reproduced school at home, complete with desk, worksheets, grades, etc.

After a month, we were both miserable."

problems that my son had at public school and were just changing the

location. We tried a number of different styles of curriculum and they

just didn't feel right. He and I were both happiest when I just let him

be. In the meantime I was researching all I could on different ways to

homeschool and each time I read about unschooling I thought, 'That would

work for him, I just know it would.' I was afraid to trust, though, so

we muddled through pretending to homeschool. When my younger two

children taught themselves to read, I had the ah-ha moment and said,

'Hey it really can work.'"

Other factors leading to the decision to unschool

Influential authors.

In response to Question 6b, the majority of respondents said that a

particular author or authors did play a role in their decision to

unschool. Not surprisingly, the author most often mentioned, by far, was

John Holt (named by 127 respondents), the former teacher who went on to

condemn forced schooling and promote self-directed education in books

such as How Children Fail and How Children Learn. Holt also coined the

term unschooling and founded the first magazine devoted to

unschooling-Growing Without Schooling. Holt's work continues to be

carried on by Holt Associates, led by Pat Farenga.

The next most frequently mentioned author was John Taylor Gatto (named

by 52 respondents), the former New York State Teacher of the Year who

left teaching because he was convinced that compulsory schools, no

matter how one taught within them, were doing more harm than good. Gatto

went on to write, among other things, Dumbing Us Down: The Hidden

Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling; A Different Kind of Teacher: Solving

the Crisis of American Schooling; and Weapons of Mass Instruction: A

Schoolteacher's Journey Through the Dark World of Compulsory Schooling.

The third most often mentioned was Sandra Dodd (named by 39

respondents), who maintains a very active website devoted to unschooling

and parenting, is author of The Big Book of Unschooling, and promotes a

version of unschooling called "radical unschooling." Some of the

respondents who mentioned Dodd were quite passionate about their respect

for her ideas and influence. Other authors mentioned with considerable

frequency were Alfi Kohn, Grace Llewellen, Mary Griffith, Dayna Martin,

Naomi Aldort, Ivan Illich, Jeanne Leidloff, Raymond & Dorothy Moore, Jan

Hunt, Pat Farenga, Joyce Fetteroll, Rue Kream, and Susan Wise Bauer.

In addition to mentioning specific authors, many mentioned that

unschooling websites, conferences, or lectures played a role in their

decision. Many also mentioned the role of friends or acquaintances who

were very successfully unschooling their children.

The decision to unschool, without an intervening period of schooling

Eighty six of the families who responded to the survey indicated that

they chose unschooling right from the beginning, with no initial period

of in-home or out-of-home school. Some of these said that they had made

their decision even before they had any children, on the basis of their

overall philosophy of life. At least a third of the 86 mentioned that

their experiences parenting their young children, before school age,

played a role in their decision to unschool. Some of these had been

practicing "attachment" or "natural" parenting, and the decision to

unschool seemed to follow naturally from that. For example, one mother

wrote:

calls babies who want to be in arms constantly. I learned to respond to

her cues from day one and it was hard at first, giving up my old life! I

learned about attachment parenting and implemented that brilliant idea

into my life and followed her lead since. My home births for babies 2

and 3 propelled me with strength that I could also take control of my

children's education, or really we could do it together, with them

leading the way and me there to support them."

Nearly a third of the whole set of 232 respondents mentioned that their

own negative school experiences influenced their decision to unschool

their children, and many of these went directly to unschooling without

any intervening period of schooling. For example, one in this group

wrote:

my college experience that all of my schooling previous to college was

completely unnecessary, and a waste of time. ... My K-12 experience was

the unhappiest time of my life."

Some of the unschooling parents had been teachers or school counselors

and made their decision to unschool based on those experiences. Here are

two excerpts from parents in families in this category:

oldest reached school age. I think the experience of dealing with kids

who did not fit the system really opened his eyes. It pained him that so

many students had simply given up all enthusiasm for learning at that

point in their lives. The kids had either learned to jump through the

hoops or had completely stopped trying, but there was very little real

passion for learning left in them."

loved being with the children. But I also began to see how flawed the

system is, and when my children neared school age I realized I didn't

want them on the receiving end of all that was wrong."

Summary

And so, in sum, the people who responded to our questionnaire came to

unschooling by many routes. Most often, it seems, the decision to

unschool came from some combination of (a) a philosophy of life

emphasizing the value of freedom and respect for individual differences;

(b) observations of their children's learning and emotional experiences

both inside and outside of schooling; (c) reflections on their own

negative school experiences; and (d) knowledge gained from writers,

speakers, websites, and the experiences of other unschooling families.

My next post will be Report III on the survey responses. There I will

focus on the main challenges of unschooling for these 232 families.

The Challenges of Unschooling: Report III from the Survey

The biggest challenge to unschoolers: standing up to social norms.

Published on April 11, 2012 by Peter Gray in Freedom to Learn

[Note: The social media counts accidentally reset to 0 on this post.]

This past fall, I conducted a survey of 232 “unschooling” families who

have children older than 5 years. This is the last in a series of three

reports on that survey. In the first report, I described the survey

method, gave some demographic information about the families that

responded, and summarized their responses to questions about the

definition and benefits of unschooling as applied to their family. In

the second report, I described the various paths that led these families

to unschooling, including their previous experiences with conventional

schooling and homeschooling, their observations of their children’s

natural ways of learning, and the influence of authors who had written

about natural forms of education. Now, in this final report, I examine

the challenges of unschooling as experienced by the families in the

survey.

Briefly, for those who are new to the topic and have not yet read the

previous reports, families who identify themselves as unschoolers are

those that do not send their children to school and do not do at home

the kinds of things that are done at school. More specifically, they do

not establish a curriculum for their children, do not require their

children to do particular assignments for the purpose of education, and

do not test their children to measure progress. Instead, they allow

their children freedom to pursue their own interests and to learn, in

their own ways, what they need to know to follow those interests. They

also, in various ways, provide an environmental context and support for

their children’s learning. To learn more about the various ways by which

unschoolers operationalize these ideas, and the many benefits that these

families see in unschooling, both for the child and for the family as a

whole, look back at Report I.

The present report is based on a qualitative analysis that my colleague

Gina Riley and I conducted of the responses to Question 7 on the survey

form, which reads as follows: "What, for your family, have been the

biggest challenges or hurdles to surmount in unschooling?"

As a first step in the analysis, we coded the challenges that people

described into several relatively distinct categories. The most

frequently cited of these categories is the one that we labeled "Social

Pressure." It includes negative judgments and criticism from other

people, from relatives, friends, acquaintances, and even strangers, and

unschoolers’ perceived needs to justify their choice repeatedly to

people who don’t approve or don’t understand. A total of 106 families

(46 percent of the 232) included this category of challenge in their

answer to Question 7. In fact, for 57 of these families, Social Pressure

was the only category of challenge listed.

The second most frequently cited category of challenge is the one that

we labeled Deschooling the Parent’s Mind." This category has to do with

parents’ difficulties in overcoming their own, culturally ingrained

“schoolish” ways of thinking about education. Included here are all

descriptions of conflicts between the parent’s unschooling philosophy

and that same parent’s automatic ways of thinking and responding that

could undermine that philosophy. A total of 95 families (41 percent of

the 232) included this category in their answer to Question 7. This

category will become much clearer, below, where I present a sample of

quotations exemplifying it. Many respondents cited challenges in both

this category and the Social Pressure category, and some pointed to a

link between the two. Others' criticisms would sometimes reawaken old,

socially normative ways of thinking and raise again the fears that

unschooling parents thought they had overcome, even when they could see

full well that unschooling was working beautifully for their children.

These fears could lead the parent to begin trying to direct and control

their children’s learning, which, if unchecked, would defeat the

unschooling practice.

Both of these two most often mentioned categories of challenge have to

do with the power of social norms. We are social creatures, and it is

very difficult for us to behave in ways that run counter to what others

perceive as normal. In the history of cultures, harmful normative

practices or rituals may persist for centuries at least partly because

of the stigma, or perceived stigma, associated with violating the norms.

These have included such practices as foot binding in the upper classes

in China and genital mutilation in many other cultures. Even people who

knew that such practices were harmful did them, because failure to do so

would mark the family as “different” and therefore aberrant. School is

the most predominant cultural ritual of our time. It is a practice

ingrained as normal, even necessary, in the minds of the great majority

of people. To counter it, one must overcome not just others’ negative

judgments, but also the judgments that rise up from one’s own

school-indoctrinated mind.

Other categories of challenge lagged well behind these first two in

frequency. These remaining categories include: "Time/Career/Income"

(problems deriving from a parent’s inability to pursue a career, or earn

more money, or have sufficient time for herself or himself while

attending to the children at home), cited by 45 families; "Finding

Friends" (problems of finding friends for their children to play with,

or finding others who shared their philosophy), cited by 18 families;

and "Legal Issues" (problems deriving from laws or regulations that make

unschooling illegal or difficult to practice), cited by 15 families.

Although "Legal Issues" was cited by only 5 percent families in North

America, they were cited by 33 percent (5 out of 15) who resided in

Europe and by 75 percent (3 out of 4) who resided in France.

The remainder of this post is devoted to selected quotations from the

questionnaires, which illustrate each category of challenge. Since some

of you might not read through the whole list of quotes, I'll note here

(rather than at the end) that I welcome your comments and questions. If

you are a member of an unschooling family, how have you dealt with the

kinds of challenges described by the respondents to this survey, or what

other challenges have you faced? If you are not a member of an

unschooling family, what other questions do you have about unschooling

that are not addressed by this series of reports? This blog is a forum

for discussion, and your views and knowledge are valued and taken

seriously, by me and by other readers. As always, I prefer if you post

your comments and questions here rather than send them to me by private

email. By putting them here, you share with other readers, not just with

me. I read all comments and try to respond to all serious questions. Of

course, if you have something to say that truly applies only to you and

me, then send me an email.

But now, read on. These quotations are eloquent statements of the

hurdles that unschooling families have had to surmount.

Quotations illustrating the social pressure category of challenge

• “By far the greatest challenge is with other people. It is such a

radical concept, I think it feels so easy for people (especially family

members) to criticize it. I get tired of feeling like I need to wait

until my children are adults so I can finally say, ‘See, it’s all

right!’”

• “The biggest challenge has been overcoming fears about going against

the norm and dealing with extended family members who are critical or

unsupportive of our choices.”

• “We still have not told my husband's family that we are unschooling.

We fear that they would panic and feel the need to step in. We don't

want that tension for ourselves or our children.”

• “Answering the questions of other people who do not understand,

including [those of] homeschoolers. Things like, what grade are you in,

what curriculum do you use, how does an only child get any

socialization, etc.”

• “I would say the only real challenge we have is dealing with others’

(mostly strangers') prejudices and misunderstandings. When we say we

homeschool (because ‘unschooling’ is met with blank stares most of the

time) they assume I have little desks set up in my living room. They

assume we have no social life. It just gets really, really tiring

hearing those comments all the time (from people we meet out in public).

Then a program comes on mainstream TV about unschooling and people think

that is our life (these programs are usually sensationalized and edited

in such a way as to portray us as neglectful, ignorant parents who don’t

care about their kids). I’m sick of answering questions like ‘Well,

that’s fine for art and music, but what about math?’ or ‘How will your

kids function in the Real World.’ I don’t always want to be an

ambassador for unschooling, especially when I’m just trying to buy

groceries! But it seems I often find myself in that situation and

sometimes it is tiring.”

• “I think for us, being Christians, it is the stigma of being lazy

parents. Unschooling is viewed as a hands-off approach to child rearing

and is especially viewed as wrong or sinful in the Christian community.

God loves order--or so it goes in their minds. The funny thing is that

Jesus was probably unschooled.”

• “Our extended family was our biggest challenge. They were negative

about homeschooling, and outraged by unschooling. We had to pull away

from them for a little over a year. Now they see that [our daughter] is

‘OK’.”

• “My biggest hurdle has been gracefully handling interactions with

friends and others who are invested in public school. I have a number of

friends who are teachers or connected somehow with schools, and they saw

(still sometimes see) what we do as thumbing our noses at them and their

efforts.”

• “The skepticism and open disapproval of most of my friends and family

was incredibly hard on me and isolated our family from our previous

social group. I learned not to mention unschooling, because most of my

old friends were already completely unsupportive of my decision to

homeschool and the few people I told about unschooling completely

freaked out.”

• “My daughter’s father and stepmother were so opposed to it that they

literally kicked her out of their house because they felt she was

setting a bad example for their younger children.”

• “My MIL stopped asking about her grandchildren, unwilling to try to

understand what we were doing or why…so they essentially lost a

grandparent.”

• “When we first discovered unschooling, and really were exploring the

philosophy, I was so excited to talk about it with family/friends. I

learned very quickly that most people can’t (won’t?) understand, and

some are downright disapproving. I have learned to talk about our

unschooling in very schooly terms so that other people are more

comfortable with us, and feel that we can relate on some level.”

• “Dealing with ignorant or defensive comments from those who don’t know

anything about unschooling is tiring.”

• “’Others’, be they friends of friends, family members, or just people

we have to interact with at public events or activities...Questioning

our children, interrogating us, having our motives challenged and

scrutinized. Being accused of being selfish or of child neglect by not

having them in a traditional school learning state standards.

Occasionally, it breaks through and fills us with doubts and fears.”

• “The biggest hurdle has been other people. It is difficult to find

others who are encouraging, especially people who live nearby. Our

support has been conferences and online communities. . . . Others don’t

understand and look down on what we’re doing. Most people are stuck in

the school paradigm and feel like it really is necessary for kids to go

to school in order to be successful adults. They see things like

bullying and doing work that has no meaning for you as necessary rights

of passage to the ‘real world,’ which they see as boring, scary, and

uninviting in general.”

• “We gave up discussing anything with family...Acquaintances and

strangers used to bother us, but now that I have the proof that it works

…. [But some] still try to think of something wrong, like how she missed

the prom or doesn't act like a ‘teenage girl’. It seemed to be somehow

unusual in a bad way to have a mid-teen act like a graduate student,

like maybe we had somehow been responsible for her being so

‘different.’”

• “My son hates explaining what we do or don’t do at length to people

who disapprove.”

• “Whenever you do something so outside the norm you have to practically

become a spokesman for it. I’m not really interested in being the poster

child for unschooling or putting my kids in that role, but it seems to

be expected nonetheless.”

Quotations illustrating parents’ needs to “deschool” their own minds

in order to practice unschooling effectively

• “My son instinctually knows how to do this, but we [my husband and I]

have had to unlearn a lot!”

• “Something in us rebels at the thought of kids ‘getting away’ with not

having to do math and spelling drills, homework, or having something

forced upon them ‘because they’ll need it.’ It’s hard to see them

spending so much time doing unstructured learning and having to fight

the feeling that they’re not learning effectively even when we can see

that they are. In a way, we’re actually jealous that they don’t have to

put up with the monotony, confusion, frustration, and ‘socialization’

(i.e. negative peer influence) that we had to deal with and can really

focus on the joy of learning.”

• “The primary [challenge] is getting over my own worries that they

aren’t learning enough. I have to deschool myself constantly. There are

so many messages in the media, and through family members (cousins,

grandma, aunts) that my kids should know certain things on the school

schedule. I have to remind myself constantly that they are always

learning things, and that they have such a wonderful love of learning,

and that they do not need to be on some else’s schedule.”

• “Oh, keeping the status quo from invading my brain: ‘TV is bad!’

‘Computers are bad!’ ‘Children should be reading by age 5!’ ‘Video games

make children violent!’ It can be challenging to hear all this over and

over and over again and not worry about it even though you can see

perfectly well that none of these things are happening in real life.”

• “Coming from academia, probably the biggest hurdle was my own

schooling or more accurately, deschooling myself and letting go of the

belief that a ‘good mom’ provides endless ‘educational’ opportunities,

without which a child is doomed to mediocrity. Learning to see learning

everywhere, and understanding that learning has no connection to

teaching.”

• “Refraining from pushing and coercing kids into things that I think

are good for them. It never works out well and undermines the trust

inherent in unschooling. At its root is worry that I’ve made a terrible

mistake and they won’t get what they need. Patently ridiculous, but the

worry had a way of creeping in frequently in the early years. Not so

much anymore as the benefits have become so clear as the girls have

matured and proven very competent and eager learners.”

• “My own deschooling has been the biggest hurdle. Even though I have

always wanted to focus on my kids’ interests, I had a hard time letting

go of the need to see hard proof (written work, projects, etc…) that

they were learning.”

• “I still encounter little boxed up sections of my brain with old fears

and assumptions. Right now [my son] is 6, and his friends are reading.

I’ve found myself feeling anxious and unsure and then disgusted with

myself for having those feelings. Now I’m learning to surf them—let them

come up, remember that they’re just outworn, fear-based reactions, let

them subside, and watch how creatively [my son] navigates his world.”

• “I keep having to remind myself and get my husband to remind me that

this is actually working. I was a teacher myself and this is just so not

how I was taught at university to teach kids!”

• “For me personally, getting over the feeling that I am not doing

enough—those panicky moments when I jump in and try to force a bit of

learning. I soon have regretted them, and now, day-by-day, I am amazed

by what the children are learning -- what they know.”

• “I have found that the biggest hurdles so far all self

inflicted...Sometimes it feels too easy and that there must be a catch.

Am I just being lazy? For the love of God, what about the workbooks!

Given our schooled background it is easy to believe that if it's

‘educational’, it can't be fun, and if it's fun (and easy), it can't be

educational! I generally question the path we have chosen only because I

do not know anyone who has homeschooled, let alone unschooled.”

• “I am definitely the biggest challenge! I have to get out of my way, a

lot. Whether it is questioning whether their video game play is

excessive to ‘what about college?,’ sometimes just finding trust is

hard! But I always eventually reason that a conversation with any of my

children would allay the fears of even the most hardened skeptic; they

are articulate, compassionate, engaged people, and I wouldn’t change a

thing about them or the path we’ve chosen (except maybe not having had

to do the school thing first!).”

• “Our own conditioning is the biggest challenge. The disapproval and

criticism from family and friends is easier to deal with than the old

tapes playing in our own heads.”

Quotations illustrating the time/career/income challenge

• “Money money money money money. I have always had to work and

sometimes more than others. Most of my at-home years were spent

freelancing (I’m a writer) to close the gap and then when my husband was

laid off I went full-time freelance with some on-site work. For one

terrible, terrible year I worked full-time for a nonprofit – three days

from home and two days on-site. It was very difficult and although my

kids did ok, I about ran myself into the ground. …Plus my kids’ social

life depends on mine so much – it’s one thing to drive them to events

but being in the loop takes parental effort – and when I’ve been working

I haven’t been able to do that, which has meant they have missed out on

some.”

• “The biggest challenge has been financial—so much to do and see and

explore, not enough resources to do it all. But, that too is part and

parcel of living life and seeking options and alternatives to meet needs

and desires and curiosities within the parameters of a single income

household and the time away from home required for the working parent.”

• “Time—trying to balance work and ‘parent alone time’.”

• “Having time alone for me (mom) since my children are with me 24/7.”

• “Our biggest hurdle has just been fitting everything in, with so many

children and different interests, allowing for each individual to follow

his own path.”

Quotations illustrating the challenge of finding friends

• “For us the main issues are the travel required for socializing –-

this can be tiring. We have to travel further to find girls my eldest

daughter’s age.”

• “Because our son is an only child, and the other children who live in

our neighborhood attend school and then after-school care, we have had

to make sure to provide plenty of opportunity for him to get together

and play with other children, as he really enjoys being with other kids.

Until we found a couple local(ish) unschooling/homeschooling networks

with which we connected, it was challenging to find him children to play

with as often as he wanted to get out and socialize...Also because my

husband and I both work from home, it can be challenging during busy

work weeks to balance everyone’s schedules and needs to make sure

everyone and everything is getting attention and support.”

• We live rurally, and it has been very challenging for the children to

develop friendships with local people.”

Quotations illustrating legal challenges to unschooling

• [From Finland, where even non-schooled kids must take tests.]

“Especially when the official tests day at the local public school is

approaching, we get more worried. Then we typically decline into the

‘teacher-centered’ mode and do our best to drill some test-taking-skills

to him.”

• [From the UK] “The problems we have had are with the council and

trying to make them realize it is a genuine educational philosophy. Also

I always panic every now and then in case they turn up and want

‘evidence’.”

• [From France] “The fear of the inspection. In France, we're controlled

each year, and it's a harsh time to defend the right we still have to

educate according to a different pedagogy/philosophy from school.”

• [From France] “Education authorities, because we are controlled here

by people who do not believe in homescholling (so you could imagine what

unschooling is for them). We are obliged to hide (so being outlaws) or

to [compromise our unschooling principles]. … In the French law all

16-year-old children must have certain knowledge for each subject. So if

you are doing totally unschooling it’s impossible to be sure your child

will attain this aim at sixteen.”

• [From North Carolina] “Currently, in our state, I have to give my

child a standardized test once a year starting at age 7. I worry about

this affecting my commitment to unschooling, since the state will be

watching me.”

• [From New Hampshire] “Our biggest hurdles to unschooling have been our

state's homeschool requirements. Although the NH requirements are easy

and reasonable to comply with, there is still that burden hanging over

us during the year that we ‘should find a way to get some of this or

that in the portfolio’. In fact, a couple of years ago my son and I

rallied at the NH State House three times to prevent the passing of

legislation that would have required all homeschoolers to take a

standardized test in addition to the portfolio option! My son, who, on

his own at age 14 began to write like crazy and subsequently wrote an

entire book manuscript, wrote a letter to the newspaper recently stating

how state requirements infringe upon his right to learn freely in the

way that he wants to learn, because he is aware that he must cover

certain ‘subjects’ whether he wants to or not.”

No Regrets

Despite the challenges, none of the respondents expressed regret about

their unschooling decision. For the many reasons for their lack of

regret, look back at Report I and Report II, for their descriptions of

the benefits of unschooling and the experiences that led them to it.

Part II: Unschooled Adults

Seeking Unschooled Adults to Tell Us About Their Experiences

Pass this on to people who meet our criteria as being "unschooled"

adults.

Published on March 12, 2013 by Peter Gray in Freedom to Learn

A year and a half ago I initiated a survey of unschooling families in

order to learn about their reasons for unschooling and what they

perceived to be the benefits and challenges of this approach to

education. More than 230 families generously responded to the survey,

and my colleague Gina Riley and I analyzed the results. I published a

summary of those results on this blog—here, here, and here; and Gina and

I subsequently authored a full report on the survey that is scheduled to

appear in the next issue (Vol. 7, issue 14, 2013) of the Journal of

Unschooling and Alternative Learning. The survey results also

contributed to the discussion of unschooling in the final chapter of my

new book, Free to Learn: Why Unleashing the Instinct to Play Will Make

Our Children Happier, More Self-Reliant, and Better Students for Life.

Gina and I are now following up with two more survey studies of

unschooling. One of these is a survey specifically of the children, who

are under 18 years old, in the same families that responded to the

initial survey. For that study we are not seeking new recruits; we have

already sent emails to those families asking the children to participate

if they are willing to. The other study, for which we are seeking new

recruits, is a study of adults—age 18 and older—who were “unschooled”

during at least the last two years of what otherwise would have been

their high school years. For this study we are seeking the participation

not just of those who were in the initial sample of families, but also

anybody, anywhere, who fits the criteria.

For the sake of this study, “unschooling” is defined as follows:

Unschooling is not schooling. Unschooling parents do not send their

children to school and they do not do at home the kinds of things that

are done at school. More specifically, they do not establish a

curriculum for their children, do not require their children to do

particular assignments for the purpose of education, and do not test

their children to measure progress. Instead, they allow their children

freedom to pursue their own interests and to learn, in their own ways,

what they need to know to follow those interests. They may, in various

ways, provide an environmental context and environmental support for the

child's learning. In general, unschoolers see life and learning as one.

For our study of unschooled adults, we are seeking people who meet the

following criteria:

a. Participants must be 18 years of age or older.

b. Participants must have been unschooled (by the above definition) for

at least two years during what would have been their high school years.

AND

c. Participants must not have attended 11th and 12th grade at a high

school.

If you meet these criteria and are willing to participate in the study,

or if you have any questions about the study, please send an email to

Gina Riley at this address: professorginariley@gmail.com. If you have

questions or comments about this study that might be of interest to

other readers, please post them here. Either Gina or I will answer any

questions.

If you know anyone who qualifies for this study, please tell them about

it and send them Gina’s email address and/or a link to this blog post.

If you belong to an unschooling group of any sort, please send them a

link to this post. To make this study most effective, we want to reach

as many unschooled adults as we possibly can.

THANK YOU for considering this request!

A Survey of Grown Unschoolers I: Overview of Findings

Seventy-five unschooled adults report on their childhood and adult

experiences.

Published on June 7, 2014 by Peter Gray in Freedom to Learn

In a study that preceded the one to be described here, my colleague Gina

Riley and I surveyed parents in unschooling families—that is, in

families where the children did not go to school and were not

homeschooled in any curriculum-based way, but instead were allowed to

take charge of their own education. The call for participants for that

study was posted, in September, 2011, on my blog (here) and on various

other websites, and a total of 232 families who met our criteria for

participation responded and filled out the questionnaire. Most

respondents were mothers, only 9 were fathers. In that study we asked

questions about their reasons for unschooling, the pathways by which

they came to unschooling, and the major benefits and challenges of

unschooling in their experience.

I posted the results of that study as a series of three articles in this

blog—here, here, and here—and Gina and I also published a paper on it in

the Journal of Unschooling and Alternative Learning (here). Not

surprisingly, the respondents in that survey were very enthusiastic and

positive about their unschooling experiences. They described benefits

having to do with their children’s psychological and physical wellbeing,

improved social lives, and improved efficiency of learning and attitudes

about learning. They also wrote about the increased family closeness and

harmony, and the freedom from having to follow a school-imposed

schedule, that benefited the whole family. The challenges they described

had to do primarily with having to defend their unschooling practices to

those who did not understand them or disapproved of them, and with

overcoming some of their own culturally-ingrained, habitual ways of

thinking about education.

The results of that survey led us to wonder how those who are

unschooled, as opposed to their parents, feel about the unschooling

experience. We also had questions about the ability of grown unschoolers

to pursue higher education, if they chose to do so, and to find gainful

and satisfying adult employment. Those questions led us to the survey of

grown unschoolers that is described in this article and, in more detail,

in three more articles to follow.

Survey Method for Our Study of Grown Unschoolers

On March 12, 2013, Gina and I posted on this blog (here) an announcement

to recruit participants. That announcement was also picked up by others

and reposted on various websites and circulated through online social

media. To be sure that potential participants understood what we meant

by “unschooling,” we defined it in the announcement as follows:

“Unschooling is not schooling. Unschooling parents do not send their

children to school and they do not do at home the kinds of things that

are done at school. More specifically, they do not establish a

curriculum for their children, do not require their children to do

particular assignments for the purpose of education, and do not test

their children to measure progress. Instead, they allow their children

freedom to pursue their own interests and to learn, in their own ways,

what they need to know to follow those interests. They may, in various

ways, provide an environmental context and environmental support for the

child's learning. In general, unschoolers see life and learning as one.”

The announcement went on to state that participants must (a) be at least

18 years of age; (b) have been unschooled (by the above definition) for

at least two years during what would have been their high school years;

and (c) not have attended 11th and 12th grade at a high school.

The announcement included Gina’s email address, with a request that

potential participants contact her to receive a copy of the consent form

and survey questionnaire. The survey included questions about the

respondent’s gender; date of birth; history of schooling, home

schooling, and unschooling (years in which they had done each); reasons

for their unschooling (as they understood them); roles that their

parents played in their education during their unschooling years; any

formal higher education they had experienced subsequent to unschooling

(including how they gained admission and how they adapted to it); their

current employment; their social life growing up and now; the main

advantages and disadvantages they experienced from their unschooling;

and their judgment as to whether or not they would unschool their own

children.

We received the completed questionnaires over a period of six months,

and Gina and I, separately, read and reread them to generate a coding

system, via qualitative analysis, for the purpose of categorizing the

responses. After agreeing on a coding system, we then, separately,

reread the responses to make our coding judgments, and then compared our

separate sets of judgments and resolved discrepancies by discussion.

The Participants, and Their Division into Three Groups

A total of 75 people who met the criteria filled out and returned the

survey. Of these, 65 were from the United States, 6 were from Canada, 3

were from the UK, and 1 was from Germany (where unschooling is illegal).

The median age of the respondents was 24, with a range from age 18 to

49. Eight were in their teens, 48 were in their 20s, 17 were in their

30s, and 2 were in their 40s. Fifty-eight (77%) were women, 16 were men,

and 1 self-identified as gender queer. The high proportion of women

probably represents a general tendency for women to be more responsive

to survey requests than are men. It is not the case that more girls than

boys are unschooled; indeed, our previous study suggested that the

balance is in the opposite direction—there were somewhat more boys than

girls undergoing unschooling in the families that responded to that

survey.

For purposes of comparison, we divided the respondents into three groups

based on the last grade they had completed of schooling or

homeschooling. Group I were entirely unschooled—no K-12 schooling at all

and no homeschooling (the term “homeschooling” here and elsewhere in

this report refers to schooling at home that is not unschooling). Group

II had one or more years of schooling or homeschooling, but none beyond

6th grade; and Group III had one or more years of schooling or

homeschooling beyond 6th grade. Thus, in theory (and in fact), those in

Group II could have had anywhere from 1 to 7 years (K-6) of

schooling/homeschooling and those in Group III could have had anywhere

from 1 to 11 years (K-10) of schooling/homeschooling.

The table below shows the breakdown of some of our statistical findings

across the three groups. The column headings show the number of

participants in each group. The first three data rows show,

respectively, the median and range of ages, the median and range of

total years of schooling plus homeschooling, and the percentage of

respondents that were female for each group. It is apparent that the

three groups were quite similar in number of participants, median age,

and percent female, but, of course, differed on the index of number of

years of schooling plus homeschooling.

Their Formal Higher Education After Unschooling

Question 5 of the survey read, “Please describe briefly any formal

higher education you have experienced, such as community

college/college/graduate school. How did you get into college without

having a high school diploma? How did you adjust from being unschooled

to being enrolled in a more formal type of educational experience?

Please list any degrees you have obtained or degrees you are currently

working toward.”

I’ll describe their responses to this question much more fully in the

next article in this series, where I’ll make ample use of the

participants’ own words. Here I’ll simply summarize some of the

statistical findings that came from our coding of the responses.

Overall, 62 (83%) of the participants reported that they had pursued

some form of higher education. This included vocational training (such

as culinary school) and community college courses as well as

conventional bachelor’s degree programs and graduate programs beyond

that. As can be seen in data row 4 of the table, this percentage was

rather similar across the three groups.

Overall, 33 (44%) of the participants had completed a bachelor’s degree

or higher or were currently fulltime students in a bachelor’s program.

As shown in data row 5 of the table, the likelihood of pursuing a

bachelor’s degree or higher was inversely related to the amount of

previous schooling. Those in the always-unschooled group were the most

likely to go on to a bachelor’s program, and those in the group that had

some schooling past 6th grade were least likely to. This difference,

though substantial, did not reach the conventional level of statistical

significance (a chi square test revealed a p = .126).

Of the 33 who went on to a bachelor’s degree programs, 7 reported that

they had previously received a general education diploma (GED) by taking

the appropriate test, and 3 reported that they had gained a diploma

through an online procedure. The others had gained admission to a

bachelor’s program with no high-school diploma except, in a few cases, a

self-made diploma that, we assume, had no official standing. Only 7 of

the 33 reported taking the SAT or ACT tests as a route to college

admission. By far the most common stepping-stone to a four-year college

for these young people was community college. Twenty-one of the 33 took

community college courses before applying to a four-year college and

used their community college transcript as a basis for admission. Some

began to take such courses at a relatively young age (age 13 in one

case, age 16 in typical cases) and in that way gained a headstart on

their college career. By transferring their credits, some reduced the

number of semesters (and the tuition cost) required to complete a

bachelor’s degree. Several also mentioned interviews and portfolios as

means to gain college admission.

The colleges they attended were quite varied. They ranged from state

universities (e.g. the University of South Carolina and UCLA) to an Ivy

League university (Cornell) to a variety of small liberal-arts colleges

(e.g. Mt. Holyoke, Bennington, and Earlham).

The participants reported remarkably little difficulty academically in

college. Students who had never previously been in a classroom or read a

textbook found themselves getting straight A’s and earning honors, both

in community college courses and in bachelor’s programs. Apparently, the

lack of an imposed curriculum had not deprived them of information or

skills needed for college success. Most reported themselves to be at an

academic advantage compared with their classmates, because they were not

burned out by previous schooling, had learned as unschoolers to be

self-directed and self-responsible, perceived it as their own choice to

go to college, and were intent on making the most of what the college

had to offer. A number of them reported disappointment with the college

social scene. They had gone to college hoping to be immersed in an

intellectually stimulating environment and, instead, found their fellow

students to be more interested in frat parties and drinking. I will

describe all this more fully in the next article in this series.

Their Careers

Question 4 of the survey read, “Are you currently employed? If so, what

do you do? Does your current employment match any interests/activities

you had as an unschooled child/teen? If so, please explain.” Our

analyses of responses to this question led us to generate a brief

follow-up questionnaire, which we sent to all of the participants, in

which we asked them to list and describe the paying jobs they had held,

to indicate whether or not they earned enough to support themselves, and

to describe any career aspirations they currently had in mind.

Sixty-three (84%) of the original 75 participants responded to this

follow-up questionnaire.

The great majority of respondents were gainfully employed at the time of

the survey. Exceptions were some of the full-time students and some

mothers with young children. Of those who responded to the follow-up

questionnaire, 78% said they were financially self-sufficient, though a

number of these added that their income was modest and they were

financially independent in part because of their frugal lifestyle.

Several of them described frugality as a value and said they would far

rather do work they enjoyed and found meaningful than other work that

would be more lucrative.

Collectively, the respondents had pursued a wide range of jobs and

careers, but two generalizations jumped out at us in our qualitative

analyses and coding of these.

The first generalization is that a remarkably high percentage of the

respondents were pursuing careers that we categorized as in the creative

arts—a category that included fine arts, crafts, music, photography,

film, and writing. Overall, 36 (48%) of the participants were pursuing

such careers. Remarkably, as shown in data row 8 of the table, 79% of

those in the always-unschooled group were pursuing careers in this

category. The observation that the always-unschooled participants were

more likely to pursue careers in the creative arts than were the other

participants was highly significant statistically (p < .001 by a chi

square test).

The second generalization is that a high percentage of participants were

entrepreneurs. Respondents were coded into this category if they had

started their own business and were making a living at it or working

toward making a living at it. This category overlapped considerably with

the creative arts category, as many were in the business of selling

their own creative products or services. Overall, by our coding, 40

(53%) of the respondents were entrepreneurs. As can be seen in data row

9 of the table, this percentage, too, was greatest for those in the

always-unschooled group (63%), but in this case the differences across

groups did not approach statistical significance.

In response to the question about the relationship of their adult

employment to their childhood interests and activities, 58 (77%) of the

participants described a clear relationship. In many cases the

relationship was direct. Artists, musicians, theater people, and the

like had quite seamlessly turned childhood avocations into adult

careers; and several outside of the arts likewise described natural

evolutions from avocations to careers. As shown in data row 6, the

percentage exhibiting a close match between childhood interests and

adult employment was highest for those in the always-unschooled group,

though this difference did not approach statistical significance.

All of these generalizations regarding unschoolers’ subsequent

employment will be illustrated, with quotations from the surveys, in the

third article in this series.

Their Evaluations of Their Unschooling Experience

Question 7 of the survey read, “What, for you, were the main advantages

of unschooling? Please answer both in terms of how you felt as a child

growing up and how you feel now, looking back at your experiences. In

your view, how did unschooling help you in your transition toward

adulthood?” 

Almost all of the respondents, in various ways, wrote about the freedom

and independence that unschooling gave them and the time it gave them to

discover and pursue their own interests. Seventy percent of them also

said, in one way or another, that the experience enabled them to develop

as highly self-motivated, self-directed individuals. Many also wrote

about the learning opportunities that would not have been available if

they had been in school, about their relatively seamless transition to

adult life, and about the healthier (age-mixed) social life they

experienced out of school contrasted with what they would have

experienced in school.

Question 8 read, “What, for you, were the main disadvantages of

unschooling? Again, please answer both in terms of how you felt as a

child growing up and how you feel now. In your view, did unschooling

hinder you at all in your transition toward adulthood?”

Twenty-eight of the 75 respondents reported no disadvantage at all. Of

the remaining 47, the most common disadvantages cited were (1) dealing

with others’ criticisms and judgments of unschooling (mentioned by at

least 21 respondents); (2) some degree of social isolation (mentioned by

16 respondents), which came in part from there being relatively few

other homeschoolers or unschoolers nearby; and (3) the social adjustment

they had to make, in higher education, to the values and social styles

of those who had been schooled all their lives (mentioned by 14

respondents).

For 72 of the 75 respondents, the advantages of unschooling clearly, in

their own minds, outweighed the disadvantages. The opposite was true for

only 3 of the participants, 2 of whom expressed emphatically negative

views both of their own unschooling and of unschooling in general (to be

detailed in the fourth article in this series).

Question 9 read, “If you choose to have a family/children, do you think

you will choose to unschool them? Why or why not?” One respondent

omitted this question. Of the remaining 74, 50 (67%) responded in a way

that we coded as clearly “yes,” and among them 8 already had children of

school age and were unschooling them. Of the remainder, 19 responded in

a way that we coded as “maybe” (for them it depended on such factors as

the personality and desires of the child, the agreement of the other

parent, or the availability or lack of availability of a good

alternative school nearby), and five responded in a way that we coded as

clearly “no.” The five “no’s” included two of the three who were

negative about their own unschooling experience and three others, who

despite their positive feelings about their own unschooling would, for

various reasons, not unschool their own child.

The fourth article in this series will delve much more deeply into the

advantages and disadvantages of unschooling as perceived and described

by these respondents.

Limitation of the Survey

A major limitation of this study, of course, is that the participants

are a self-selected sample, not a random sample, of grown unschoolers.

As already noted, relatively few men responded to the survey. A bigger

problem is that the sample may disproportionately represent those who

are most pleased with their unschooling experiences and their subsequent

lives. Indeed, it seems quite likely that those who are more pleased

about their lives would be more eager to share their experiences, and

therefore more likely to respond to the survey, than those who are less

pleased. Therefore, this study, by itself, cannot be a basis for strong

claims about the experiences and feelings of the whole population of

unschoolers. What the study does unambiguously show, however, is that it

is possible to take the unschooling route and then go on to a highly

satisfying adult life. For the group who responded to our survey,

unschooling appears to have been far more advantageous than

disadvantageous in their pursuits of higher education, desired careers,

and other meaningful life experiences.

Stay tuned for the remaining three articles in this series (to be posted

later, one at a time), where you will read much more about these grown

unschoolers’ experiences, in their own words.

Note: The "Unschooling 101" illustration at the top of this article was

created by Idzie Desmarais. Idzie is a "kindergarten dropout" who

authors a great blog called I'm Unschooled. Yes I can Write. Her site

includes, among other things, a list of blogs by teenage and grown

unschoolers and a collection of interviews of grown unschoolers.

Survey of Grown Unschoolers II: Going on to College

Can people with no K-12 schooling go to college and do well there? If

so, how?

Published on June 17, 2014 by Peter Gray in Freedom to Learn

Can they go to college? If so, how do they get in and how do they adjust

to it? Can they do the work? Can they follow the rigorous schedule? Such

questions are often asked by people who have heard of “unschooling”. In

this post, I will address these questions, in the words of adults who

were unschooled and then went on to a formal bachelor’s degree program

or beyond.

This is the second in a series of four posts concerning a survey of

grown unschoolers that Gina Riley and I have recently conducted. The

first post presented a definition of unschooling and an overview of the

methods and the statistical findings of our study. Please look back at

that post to review them.

Unlike so many others in the general population, most unschoolers do not

consider college admission, or college graduation, or high grades in

college, to be in any general sense a measure of life success. Nor do

we. Our main concern in asking about college in this study was simply to

find out about the experiences of those who, for whatever reason, did

choose to go to college. These questions have practical ramifications,

because many potential unschoolers would be reluctant to take the

unschooling route if it precluded the possibility of college and

therefore the possibility of careers that, at least today, more or less

require college as a stepping-stone.

To learn about their college experiences, we asked the following as

Question 5 of the survey: “Please describe briefly any formal higher

education you have experienced, such as community college/college/and

graduate school. How did you get into college without having a high

school diploma? How did you adjust from being unschooled to being

enrolled in a more formal type of educational experience? Please list

any degrees you have obtained or degrees you are currently working

toward.”

In this series of posts I use the term schooling to refer to attendance

at an out-of-home school, homeschooling to refer to academic lessons at

home that are supervised or enforced by a parent, and unschooling to

refer to the situation where children are not sent to school and are not

homeschooled (by the definition just given). In other contexts, and for

legal purposes, unschooling is considered to be a branch of

homeschooling—and in some of the quotes, below, respondents use the term

"homeschooling" as an umbrella term that includes unschooling—but for

purposes of clarity I use the term homeschooling, here, in a more

limited way that does not include unschooling. Again, for more on the

definition of unschooling, for the purpose of this study, look back at

the previous post.

As noted in the previous post, 62 (83 percent) of the 75 grown

unschoolers who responded to our survey had gone on to some form of

higher education, and 33 (44 percent) had completed a bachelor’s degree

or higher or were currently full-time students in a bachelor’s program.

The other 29 who pursued higher education most often did so to gain

particular knowledge or a license related to their vocational interest,

for which they did not need a bachelor’s degree. Also as noted in the

previous post, the likelihood of pursuing a bachelor’s degree was

inversely related to the amount of previous schooling: Fifty-eight

percent of those in the always-unschooled group had pursued a bachelor’s

degree compared with 44 percent and 29 percent, respectively, in the

other two groups (look back at the previous post for details).

The always-unschooled group not only had the highest percentage who went

on to a bachelor’s degree, but also the highest percentage who did not

go on to any higher education. Indeed, of the 24 respondents in that

group, 14 went on to a bachelor’s degree and 6 did not pursue any form

of higher education. The latter generally said that they did not need

formal education to learn what they wanted to know or to pursue their

chosen careers. For example, one wrote, “I’ve continued to unschool into

adulthood and will continue throughout my life. I think internships and

apprenticeships would be the natural extension of unschooling into the

traditional workplace. If I become interested in a field that seems like

college would be a good resource for, I would look into it—but I would

still consider it part of the unschooling journey, which for me simply

means following curiosity wherever it leads.” Another simply stated, “As

an adult, I realize that unschooling helped me see that college wasn’t

necessary to have a successful, fulfilling life”.

I also reported in the previous post that the most common route to

admission to a bachelor’s degree program, for our respondents, was to

take community college courses—typically beginning around age 16—and

then use that transcript to gain college admission. Twenty-one of the 33

had taken that route. Most went on to college without any sort of

official high school diploma, but seven reported that they had received

a GED by taking the appropriate test and three said that they had

received a diploma through an online procedure.

The great majority of respondents who went on to college reported no

difficulty doing the academic work. Indeed, most said they were at an

academic advantage, primarily because of their high motivation and their

high capacity for self-initiative, self-direction, and self-control.

The best way to convey the college experiences of the respondents is

through their own words. The rest of this post consists of quotations

from the surveys. The quotations are selected, but are quite

representative of the whole sample, with the exception of two who

described difficulties with their unschooling and pursuit of higher

education and whose experiences will be discussed in the fourth post in

this series. The themes that emerged from the sample as a whole are

these: (1) Getting into college was generally not particularly difficult

for these unschoolers; (2) The academic adjustment to college was

generally quite smooth for them; (3) Most felt advantaged because of

their high self-motivation and capacity for self-direction; and (4) The

most frequent complaints were about the lack of motivation and

intellectual curiosity among their college classmates, the constricted

social life of college, and, in a few cases, constraints imposed by the

curriculum or grading system.

To preserve the respondents’ anonymity, I have identified each only by

gender, age at the time of filling out the questionnaire, and extent to

which the person had been unschooled. I’ve also removed potentially

identifying information from the quotations, especially the names of the

colleges attended. The preponderance of women in the sample below

reflects the high ratio of women compared to men who responded to our

survey (see previous post). I have chosen quotations primarily from

among those who had the least schooling or homeschooling before college,

and I've ordered them in such a way that those with no K-12 schooling or

homeschooling are first.

Age 20, no K-12 schooling or homeschooling. This woman, at age 20, had

already earned a BA degree and had gained what, for her, was an ideal

job in theatre production. She had taken some community college courses

between age 13 and 16 and then transferred to a four-year BA program at

her state university, which she completed in two and one-fourth years,

graduating summa cum laude. She wrote, “It was not a rough adjustment

for me. I found that because I had not been in school before attending

college, I was much less burnt out than my peers and had a very fresh

perspective. I learned basic academic skills (essay composition,

research, etc.) very quickly… I struggled some with time management, but

eventually developed a means of staying organized.”

Age 21, no K-12 schooling or homeschooling. This young man was in his

third year of a four-year BA program, majoring in philosophy at a

selective Canadian university, about to declare honors status and with

plans to pursue a master’s in philosophy. In explaining how he was

admitted, he wrote, “I set an appointment to talk with someone in the

admissions department, to find out what I would need to do to apply as

an unschooler. After I talked briefly about myself, my achievements, and

my style of education, and after he read a sample of my writing, he said

‘I can't see any reason why you shouldn't be here’, and proceeded to

hand me the forms to become a student.”

Concerning adjustment, he wrote, “It was a bit hard to adjust to the

amount of skimming-over that many introductory classes do: I can't bear

it when ideas are left unexplored. Mainly because of the depth of the

material covered, I've found that my best grades, and some of my best

work, have come from 4000-level courses. I've always learned in a

passionate way and don't want to stop the flow of an idea until it runs

its course.”

Age 24, no K-12 schooling or homeschooling. This woman, who had received

a BA from a highly selective liberal arts college, wrote, “In contrast

to [my classmates], I found great inspiration from my teachers. At [name

of college deleted] the teachers must also be practitioners in their

fields of study, so I was working with people who were actively

interested and participating in their areas of expertise as a teacher

and as an actor, writer, director, translator, and so on. Having someone

with such a wealth of knowledge looking over my shoulder at the work I

was doing was revolutionary. It was not something I wish I had earlier,

not something I felt had been lacking my whole life, but it was

something that inspired me for my four years at school.”

At one point in her college career this young woman was asked to lead a

meeting of students in order to provide feedback to the instructor of a

course. She wrote, “I discovered that people wanted the teacher to tell

them what to think. ‘l wish he’d told us what to think when we read

Macbeth’ someone said. ‘I wish he’d let us know what he wanted us to do

in our Hearts of Darkness essays’ and on and on. It had never, ever

occurred to me to ask someone else to tell me what to think when I read

something.”

This respondent also wrote that the biggest drawback to college, for

her, was the lack of a normal, age-mixed social life—with people who are

not all students. To achieve that, she joined the local Unitarian

Universalist church where she served as religious educator while still a

student.

Age 24, no K-12 schooling or homeschooling. This woman, who was

currently a full-time student working for a master’s degree in English,

wrote: “I began attending a community college when I was 16 and enjoyed

every second of it. I did not feel as though I had to adjust to

anything. After my first psychology class, which was the first time I

had to take notes during a class, I went right home and began typing and

organizing my notes. I continued going part time for two years until I

was 18. The community college accepted my diploma, which I created

myself and my parents signed, along with my transcript, which I also

created. I turned my interests and activities into ‘courses’ for the

transcript and included a list of books that I had read over the last 4

years.”

“When I began looking for a four-year university to transfer to, my

decision not to take the SATs had a minor effect on my choices for

schools. One school refused to even open my application without SAT

scores, even though I had written them a letter detailing my success at

the college level for the last three years. I chose a university that

allowed me to register as a part time student for my first semester and

then transfer into a full-time program without having to provide SAT

scores.”

Age 29, no K-12 schooling or homeschooling. This woman, who had

graduated with high honors from a selective private women’s college and

then gone on to a master’s degree, wrote, “On top of accepting me, they

put me into their freshman honors class. I definitely felt strange going

into a formal school, especially being in an honors program. I spent

long hours studying and doing my homework—way more work than my

classmates were doing. After I got straight A's for the first half of my

first semester I started to relax a little more, and I realized I was

working way too hard. So I learned how to learn like my fellow

classmates were—by memorizing everything just before a test. I still

kept getting straight A's but was doing hardly any work at all.

Eventually I learned how to balance it—actually delving into material I

enjoyed and memorizing the stuff I wasn't interested in. It wasn't hard;

it mostly just made me really appreciate the fact that I hadn't been in

school my whole life.”

“I definitely experienced a [social] transition in college. I wasn't

into frat parties, drinking heavily and the like, so my first year/first

two years I was a bit of a loner, with only a few friends. My last year

in school I finally started drinking and going to house parties, so I

‘fit in’ a little better and got a wider group of ‘friends.’ I realized

this was how everyone else in college was socializing and it felt off to

me, not genuine or a way to really make lasting connections. Out of

school I returned to how I had always functioned socially, and lo and

behold, that was what everyone else was doing. I met friends through my

jobs, through theatres I worked in, through other friends, and at coffee

shops.”

Age 29, no K-12 schooling or homeschooling. This woman, who had earned a

bachelor’s degree in fine arts at an unnamed college, wrote, “I did have

a high school diploma. There would have been greater challenges without

that, but for me the transition was logistically really easy. Despite

the completely unschooled nature of my upbringing, my mother had our

home registered as a private school with the state of CA, so on paper I

looked ‘normal’ in the system.

"I went to Community College part time between the ages of 16 and 19

years old. I transferred to a four year school, which I attended for

three years before receiving my BFA with High Distinction at 22 years

old. I loved college—it stands out as one of the most focused and

fulfilling periods of my young life! When I began community college, I

was younger than other students, and I was concerned that I would feel

behind, but I wasn't. I didn't like taking tests, and I still feel a lot

of anxiety about tests to this day, but I excelled in most ways and

graduated with a high GPA.”

“Growing up, I understood we were outside of the norm, and that was met

by kids and adults alike with a lot of skepticism at times. Despite my

mom’s great confidence, I was concerned about whether I had what it took

to succeed in the ‘real world.’ College was the time in my life where I

confronted the unknown and decided I was probably OK!”

Age 30, no K-12 schooling or homeschooling. This man took classes at a

local state college beginning at age 16, and then transferred to a

small, selective, progressive private college where he completed a BS in

conservation biology and ecology. After that, he earned an MS at a state

university and completed one year of a Ph.D. program at another state

university, before taking a leave of absence from school because of a

serious illness. Concerning adjustment, he reported no difficulty with

the academic work, but objected to the constraints imposed by the system

of evaluation. He wrote, “Even the requirement-free environment of [name

of college omitted] felt stifling to me (e.g. its perverse grading

incentive to avoid one's own directions within a field in favor of the

professor's predilections, formal academic bias to the near exclusion of

experiential learning, and emphasis on tangible academic products rather

than learning/applying process), and grad school has been many times

worse (not only in terms of more structured and formalized educational

paradigms, but also of lower-level educational opportunities).” He

nevertheless plans to return to the Ph.D. program when his illness is

brought under control, as he is committed to a career aimed at restoring

and maintaining biodiversity.

Age 32, no K-12 schooling or homeschooling. This woman, now a mom on the

brink of unschooling her own children, wrote: “I took a course in

Emergency Medicine and worked a couple of odd jobs while I researched

college options, selected my preferred school, and went about the

application process. I was scholarshipped for a large chunk of my

undergraduate education due to a portfolio that I assembled and my

college interviews. Applying for college didn't seem to be too difficult

without an official diploma, because I had SAT scores to submit and

high-school transcripts that my mom prepared from all of her years of

journaling our unschooling exploits. I remember being very restless for

the first one to two years of college. I didn't feel very challenged by

the core classes I was enrolled in and was itching to move on to my

major and minor classes. College was fun, but I was stunned to realize

that the majority of the other students didn't work or pursue any other

areas of their lives apart from their studies and partying. I supported

myself throughout my four-year degree typically working at least two

jobs while taking well above the minimum class/load requirements so that

I could graduate on time. Two years into my degree I took a full time

job in the creative department of the local newspaper, where I continued

to work after graduation.”

Age 35, no K-12 schooling or homeschooling. This woman, who had earned a

BA at a small progressive college and then a master’s degree, wrote,

“Through my whole college experience I balked at students who didn't do

the work, even in the courses that were less than desirable or exciting

for me. I think my educational background set me up for thinking ‘why

are you there, if you aren't going to participate?’ This was frustrating

for me to see. For I have always chosen myself to pursue education, and

even though this personal choice meant that there were some courses I

had to take that I wasn't excited about, I still knew what my motivation

was for being there. Over time I have learned that these fellow students

who were frustrating to be around had been exposed to a drastically

different relationship with learning and education.”

Age 19, no K-12 schooling or homeschooling past second grade. This young

woman had been diagnosed with dyslexia when she was in second grade at

school and was taken out of school because of her unhappiness there. As

an unschooler, she learned to read at her own pace and in her own way.

Later, she was tested and diagnosed with other learning disabilities,

but these did not hold her back. During her last two years of

unschooling, she took community college courses and then transferred to

a bachelor’s degree program at a selective private liberal arts college.

She wrote, “I enrolled at [name of college omitted], where I just

completed my freshman year. I maintained a 3.9 GPA through the whole

year, and I am returning there in the fall.

"I think that unschooling actually prepared me better for college than

most of my peers, because I already had a wealth of experience with

self-directed study. I knew how to motivate myself, manage my time, and

complete assignments without the structure that most traditional

students are accustomed to. While most of my peers were floundering and

unable to meet deadlines, I remained on top of my work because I have

always been an independent learner. I know how to figure things out for

myself and how to get help when I need it. While I struggled to adjust

in the beginning, it was purely due to the difficulties caused by my

learning disabilities. By the end of the year I had overcome my

struggles and excelled in school. I am currently working on my BA in

English from [name of college omitted], and after that I intend to go on

for a Masters in Library Science.”

Age 24, no K-12 schooling or homeschooling past second grade. This man,

more so than most of the others, found that he had to jump through some

hoops to get into community college, as a stepping stone to a bachelor’s

program at a selective state university, but had no difficulties

adapting academically. He wrote, “At first I did not want to attend

college. When I graduated from homeschooling/unschooling in 2005, I

worked at a gym selling gym memberships for two years. Ultimately I

figured out that I needed to go to college so I attended a local

community college. It was difficult getting in without a high school

diploma, and basically I had to go to the county school board office to

obtain a 'homeschool completion affidavit' to prove to the college that

I actually finished the 12th grade. After a bunch of red tape, they

accepted it. Since I never took the SAT, ACT or other standardized test

for college prior to enrolling in the community college, I had to take a

placement test before I could enroll in classes. After all of this was

out of the way, I was viewed as a regular student.

"I went on to graduate from [name of college omitted] with my

Associate’s degree and a 4.00 GPA. Then I attended [name of university

omitted] and obtained a Bachelor’s degree, also with a 4.00 GPA. Most

recently I just finished my Master’s degree at [name of university

omitted].”

Age 24, no K-12 schooling or homeschooling past second grade. This

woman, who earned a BA from a large state university, wrote, “There is

an adjustment period going into ‘school’ from unschooling, but you also

have the huge advantage of not being burned out and hating school

already. Learning is still something you look forward to.” This

respondent went on to say that she received nearly all A’s and then a

full scholarship to law school, and added: “I'm not trying to brag, so

much as prove that unschooling works. We took a lot of crap from

friends, relatives, and strangers during the entire time we were

unschooling. So now, I like having the credentials to prove that

unschooling is a legitimate way to educate and indeed, in my book, the

preferred way to educate.”

Age 26, no K-12 schooling or homeschooling past second grade. This

woman, who had graduated with honors from a highly selective liberal

arts college, wrote, “The transition was a difficult one for me, not for

the academics, but for the feeling of being trapped within a system. The

college bubble felt tiny to me and I was in a constant state of

simmering frustration at being told even simple things like which

classes to take and when. As someone who had made those choices myself

for years, I felt disrespected that it was assumed that I didn't know

what level of study I was ready for. It took most of the first year for

me to come to a place of acceptance, remembering that this, too, was a

choice that I made that I could change if I wanted to. I never loved

college like many people do and never felt as free as I had before

college or in the time after I graduated.” This respondent subsequently

attended graduate school in a medically related field and reported that

to be a better experience, because of the real-world setting of the

clinical work.

Age 35, no K-12 schooling or homeschooling past fourth grade. This

woman, who had gained a degree from a highly selective liberal arts

college, wrote, “I applied to eight colleges and was accepted at all of

them [in 1995]…I interviewed at all eight colleges; for most of them I

was their first ‘homeschool/unschooled’ applicant. Several colleges told

me I was accepted at the conclusion of the interviews, right after they

informed me that I was ‘surprisingly’ well-spoken and bright. I did take

(and did very well on) both the SATs and the ACTs, which probably offset

the lack of transcripts.”

“The transition was fairly easy, though I was homesick. I think college

is a lot like unschooling—you take classes that interest you, do most of

the work on your own, and are responsible for getting it done and turned

in on time. You are really responsible for your own education!”

“From [name of college deleted] I received a BA in both computer science

and mathematics. It proves something: I never had any formal math

training beyond 5th grade, but ended up tutoring other students in

Calculus 1, 2 and 3. I never had a computer of my own until my junior

year of college, but majored in computer science where I wrote extensive

computer programs, and programmed my own robot.” This person then went

on to a BS and Masters’ in nursing, became a nurse practitioner, and, at

the time of the survey, was contemplating going back to school for a

doctorate.

Age 32, no K-12 schooling or homeschooling past seventh grade; mix of

schooling and homeschooling before that. This woman, who had received a

bachelor’s degree from an Ivy League university, was a mother

unschooling her own children, a yoga instructor, and a student training

to do yoga therapy when she filled out the survey. Concerning college

admission and adjustment to college, she wrote, “When I was 15, I wanted

to take community college courses. At that time, dual enrollment of

homeschooled students wasn't really accepted, so I was told I needed to

get a GED to be allowed to enroll. Although I think it disappointed my

parents for me to get my GED, it has helped to have that paper that

shows I completed some sort of high school education. That said, I

refuse to take standardized tests now (because I believe they aren't a

measure of intelligence or even what a student has learned), so I did

complete my associate's degree before I attempted to transfer to a

four-year university (some schools will accept a two-year degree in

place of SAT/ACT scores.) I graduated from [the Ivy League University]

with my BA in psychology in 2003. I think unschooling helped me adjust

to college; I was so used to being able to study whatever I wanted that

it seemed natural to take classes that interested me. And unschooling

also follows the premise that if a child has a goal, they'll learn

whatever they need to in order to meet it. For instance, I don't like

math, but I knew I would need to learn it in order to graduate. So

that's what I did.”

Summary

As I noted in the first post on this study, we must be cautious in

interpreting the results of this survey. By necessity, as we had no way

of forcing people into the study, the sample here is a group of grown

unschoolers who chose to participate, and they may well be among those

unschoolers who are happiest with their experiences and most eager to

tell about them. However, at minimum, we can conclude this: The college

option is very definitely available to unschoolers. Those who want to go

to college and take the steps required to get in have no particular

difficulty getting in or doing well once there. Moreover, the

similarities in responses within this relatively diverse sample suggests

a certain common groud of experience. The grown unschoolers who went on

to college had good reasons in their own minds for doing so, did not

want to waste their time there, seemed to work harder and achieve more

than did their schooled classmates, and generally felt advantaged

because of their previous experiences controlling their own lives and

learning.

Survey of Grown Unschoolers III: Pursuing Careers

When people opt out of K-12 schooling, what sorts of careers do they go

on to?

Published on June 21, 2014 by Peter Gray in Freedom to Learn

This is the third in a series of four posts describing the results of a

survey of grown unschoolers that my colleague Gina Riley and I recently

conducted. It is about the career choices of these people, who skipped

all or part of K-12 and took charge of their own education. In brief, we

found that most of them have gone on to careers that are extensions of

interests and passions they developed in childhood play; most have

chosen careers that are meaningful, exciting, and joyful to them over

careers that are potentially more lucrative; a high percentage have

pursued careers in the creative arts; and quite a few (including 50% of

the men) have pursued STEM careers. The great majority of them have

pursued careers in which they are their own bosses.

Before reading on, I suggest that you look back at the first post in

this series, if you haven’t already read it. It presents the definition

of unschooling that served as a criterion for admission into the study,

describes our survey method and ways of analyzing the findings, presents

age- and gender-breakdowns of the 75 grown unschoolers who responded and

met the criteria, classifies them into three groups based on amount of

unschooling, and presents a breakdown of some of the statistical

findings according to those groups.

You might also want to look back at the second post in the series, which

focuses on the college experiences of the 33 respondents who chose to

pursue a bachelor’s degree or higher. It describes how they got into

college without a standard high-school diploma or transcript and how

they adapted, academically and socially, once there.

Now, in this third post in the series, I elaborate—beyond the

statistical summary presented in the first post—on the careers that

these generally young adults (median age 24) have pursued. The

information discussed here came primarily from Question 4 of the survey,

which read, “Are you currently employed? If so, what do you do? Does

your current employment match any interests/activities you had as an

unschooled child/teen? If so, please explain.” Further information also

came from a brief follow-up questionnaire in which we asked them to list

and describe the paying jobs they had held, to indicate whether or not

they earned enough to support themselves, and to describe any career

aspirations they currently had in mind. As noted in the first post, the

great majority were gainfully employed and were supporting themselves,

despite the difficult economic time in which the survey was conducted.

Now, I turn to the general conclusions about the types of jobs and

careers they have pursued.

 They chose careers that are extensions of their childhood

interests.

By our coding, 58 (77%) of the participants described a clear

relationship between their childhood interests and activities and their

current vocation or career. This percentage was highest for the 24

participants in the always-unschooled group (21/24 = 88%), but was high

in the other two groups as well (see the table in the first post in this

series). The sample included professional artists and musicians who had

played at art or music as children; computer technicians and programmers

who had developed their skills in childhood play; and outdoor

enthusiasts who had found ways to make a living that embraced their love

of nature.

Here are three examples that are among my favorites—favorites because

they are the kinds of careers that school curricula ignore, careers that

can strike the fancy of brave young people not in school, who have time

and freedom to follow their dreams.

• Becoming a circus performer, starting a circus, and then becoming a

tall-ship bosun. One of our respondents, a 26-year-old woman who had

always been unschooled, wrote:

“At the age of 3, I decide to become a circus performer, and at the age

of 5 I enrolled in an after-school circus program. I trained and

performed as a circus performer continuously until the age of 17 and

on-and-off ever since. From the ages of 19 to 24, my best friend and I

ran our own contemporary circus company. As a result of that, I overcame

a strong fear of heights to work as a trapeze artist and learned a

considerable amount about rigging so that I would be able to ensure my

own safety in the air.

“As my circus career has waned, I've tried a number of new things and

the one that caught my full attention has been tall ship sailing.

Working on the ocean is a very captivating experience and it employs the

skills that I learned in the circus nearly every single day - skills

like balance, hand-eye coordination, and even getting along with people

in cramped living arrangements.

“I am currently employed as a tall-ship rigger/bosun. …The job of bosun

can change from ship to ship, but aboard training vessels my work

involves maintenance as well as training and sailing. I am in charge of

inspecting, maintaining and fixing the rigging, the sails, the deck and

the hull. Additionally I am expected to be involved in sailing the

vessel, leading a watch during extended periods at sea, educating the

public about the history of the vessels and educating the trainees about

sail handling and vessel maintenance.

“I would like to sail and drive large sailing vessels around the world.

I am currently studying for a 100T master's license from the US Coast

Guard that would allow me to be the captain of a vessel of 100 gross

tonnes or less. USCG license are graduated by size of vessel and area of

operation so this is the first step towards a license for a larger

vessel.”

• Wilderness aerial photographer. This 21-year-old young man, who left

school after first grade, had started a business of taking beautiful (I

can say that, because I saw some of them) artistic photos of wilderness

scenes from the air. He wrote: “Growing up with so much freedom was

awesome! I did lots of outdoor activities including skiing in the winter

and hiking/camping in the summer. If I hadn't done it this way, I'm not

sure I would have been able to combine the three things I really

enjoy--outdoors, flying, and photography--into a business.” He wrote

further that he started his own photography business when he was 15

years old and also, that same year, started paragliding. The paragliding

led to an interest in flying fixed-wing aircraft, and then he combined

all three of his passions into a single business.

• Assistant (beginning at age 18) to a famous movie director, producer,

and screenwriter. This young man, who was 20 years old when he responded

to the survey, was unschooled except for kindergarten and 9th grade (he

went to school that one year to “try it out”—he made honor roll and then

left). His passion for film started early. By age 11 he was making

YouTube videos with friends. He began taking community college courses

in mass communication at age 16, and, at age 18, was in the process of

applying to film school when a great opportunity arose—to be a local

production assistant on a major film that was being produced where he

lived. His bosses liked him so much that they told him, “If you can get

yourself to L.A., we’ll keep you on the show.” One thing led to another,

he became close to the famous director, and at the time of the survey

had a higher-level job, in L.A., on the production side of another major

film. In response to our question about whether he earned enough to be

financially independent, he wrote, “very much so.” His ultimate goal is

to direct movies himself, and he is working diligently toward that goal.

• “Self-employed polymath.” A number of respondents showed a readiness,

even eagerness, to change careers as their interests changed—just as

they had changed activities as their interests changed when they were

children. The extreme of this was one of the older respondents to our

survey, 39 at the time. He had experienced a mix of schooling and

unschooling through tenth grade and then left high school for good. He

went on to a bachelor’s degree in mechanical engineering and a life that

he refers to as that of “a self-employed polymath.” He wrote, “As a

polymath, what I do now is very much what I have always done (I mostly

ignored traditional schooling, even when I was forced to go); I do

anything and everything that catches my attention. Life is about

learning, growing, and sharing your discoveries with others who want to

learn and grow too.”

His list of jobs held over the years includes, but is not limited to,

the following: research & development consultant for a medical

manufacturing company; clinical hypnotherapist; master practitioner of

neuro-linguistic programming; director of tutoring services for a

community college; wilderness survival, first aid, and bushcraft expert;

PADI divemaster (scuba diving) instructor; martial arts instructor (Kung

Fu, Judo, and Jeet Kun Do); and author of two published children’s books

(and currently working on a new series of bedtime stories).

 They chose enjoyable and meaningful careers over potentially more

lucrative careers.

This generalization overlaps considerably with the previous one, about

careers as extensions of childhood interests. Unschooled children play,

explore, and observe in the real world and find their passions. Then

they pursue those passions in adult vocations and careers, or they may

find new passions and pursue them. A number said that their life as

adults was not much different from their earlier life as unschoolers, as

they continued to play, explore, and learn. In response to our question

about whether they were financially independent, many responded that

they could support themselves only because they lived frugally, but they

would rather live frugally and pursue their interests than make more

money at a job that didn’t interest them.

The four case examples above illustrate this second generalization—about

pursuing enjoyable and meaningful careers--as much as they do the first

generalization. Here are three more examples, however, in which the

career reflects not so much the specific activities of childhood as a

set of ideals, or social concerns, that began to take root in childhood.

• Greenpeace activist and community organizer. This woman, age 28 at the

time of the survey, was one of the more schooled participants in our

survey. She attended public school through age 13 and then refused to go

anymore, and so was unschooled after that. As a child she immersed

herself in art, but she was also interested in “revolutions and

wildlife.” I suspect that her school refusal was itself a sign of her

revolutionary spirit. She went to art-college, with the support of a

substantial scholarship awarded on the basis of her portfolio, and then

taught art for a number of years. But then she shifted careers to her

other great interest and became a full-time Greenpeace activist,

fundraiser, and manager. In response to our question about supporting

herself financially, she wrote: “Yep, I make a modest salary. I didn’t

exactly chose my job because it’s the highest paying. It’s more

important to me that I spend my time ding something that benefits my

community.”

• Founder of an environmentally- and socially-responsible construction

company. This woman, age 30 at the time of the survey, had never gone to

school but was homeschooled up to age “13 or 14,” when full unschooling

began. She wrote: “I am an owner/employee of a construction company….

The company is a direct reflection of many of my interests and

activities as an unschooled youth-- for example, democracy in the

workplace, environmental stewardship, construction and building,

facilitation and project management.

“I am also the president of a small non-profit that works to support the

use of alternative materials in construction through the development of

technical guidelines. I am the project manager for our technical

guideline project and coordinate with our diverse teams of supporters

around the world. My interest in regulation and policy development, as

well as a commitment to support the use of environmentally friendly

alternative materials, are both directly connected to interests and

projects I undertook as an unschooled young adult.”

“I completed a series of internships over 3 years … during which I

studied permaculture, natural building, community facilitation, and

conflict resolution. …

“The main advantage of unschooling was that it supported me in

understanding myself clearly, and helping me craft an adult life that is

meaningful to me. I do not identify as ever having stopped unschooling--

I am continuing to learn as much as I did as a youth. When I was 15, I

was studying microscopes and nuclear particles, and now I am studying

non-profit bylaws and building codes, or training for a marathon. I am

30 years old, and I have been practicing how to run my life, be

motivated towards my own goals, think creatively about how to solve

problems, and seek out what interests me for 20 years. I find myself

consistently in an advantageous position compared to my ‘schooled’

peers…”

• Urban planner, with focus on non-motorized transportation design. This

30-year-old person, who was entirely unschooled from K-12,

self-identified as gender queer and preferred not to be classed as

either male or female. After completing a bachelor’s degree program,

this person held jobs that reflected the person’s interests in planning,

management, and urban development. These included assistant town planner

in a small city, administrative assistant for a public health department

at an Ivy League university; research assistant for a project involving

bicycle transportation (while a graduate student); program coordinator

for a low-income housing non-profit; and post-graduate research fellow

for the Bureau of Transportation at a large city. This person wrote:

“My goal is to build a career in either bicycle and pedestrian

transportation planning/policy or in human factors engineering. … My

interests have typically come in short, intense cycles. I figured this

out when I was about 16 and started researching career options that

would let me change projects every few months. At 17 I discovered urban

design, which has acted as a thematic connection for a lot of my more

passing interests over the last decade. As a topic it connects to some

of the things I enjoyed as a teenager - theater set design, model

building, textile design, ecology - but it took moving from the rural

areas where I grew up to [name of large city deleted] before I really

understood what it was that interested me about design. My path since

then has been twisty but generally linear. I studied pre-architecture

and drafting at community college, got into architecture and urban

design at college, wrote a thesis on post-socialist urban planning

policy in Vietnam and Hungary in undergrad, worked in a town planning

office for a while, and got interested in my current specialties of

non-motorized transportation and qualitative research methods for

analyzing travel behavior once I started grad school…”

 A high percentage chose careers in the creative arts.

As I noted in the first post, by our coding, 36 (48%) of the 75 survey

participants were pursuing careers that we categorized as in the

creative arts—a category that included fine arts, crafts, photography,

film, theater, and writing. Remarkably, 19 (79%) of the 24 participants

in the always-unschooled group were pursuing such careers. The

observation that the always-unschooled participants were more likely to

pursue careers in the creative arts than were the other participants was

highly significant statistically (p < .001 by a chi square test—look

back at the table in the first post in this series). I could speculate

about possible reasons for such a higher concentration of creative

artists in the always-unschooled group than in the other groups, but,

truthfully, your guess is as good as mine. Here, as illustration, are

three examples of respondents pursuing such careers.

• Production manager at a large theater company. This 29-year-old woman,

who was unschooled for all of K-12 but had gone on to a bachelor’s

degree in theatre arts, wrote: “I am a working artist and the production

manager of [a major theater company in New York]. I feel like the way I

was raised led directly to what I do now. The tools I learned as a

child-- to pursue new ideas/interests/knowledge, to creatively solve

problems, to actively participate in my community, and more--have helped

me greatly. It's actually pretty much what I still do, just in the

context of a grown-up life. The organizing, lighting design, dancing,

making things is exactly what I was doing as a child and teen.”

To our question about financial independence, she wrote: “NYC is a hard

city to live in, but I have been financially independent the whole time

since graduating from college in 2008. I have never had trouble finding

work. I gravitate to experimental performance and work with/for a lot of

artists. My fees are not high. But it's worth it to me to work on

projects that I find interesting and believe in.”

• Textile artist/crafter and entrepreneur. This 21-year-old woman, who

was unschooled for all of K-12 and had pursued no higher education,

wrote: “I’m a self employed artist/crafter, I sell online and locally. I

am absolutely doing what I was interested in as a child! I've always

been making things, I love what I do.” In response to our question about

financial independence, she wrote: “Yes I became financially independent

at age 19 and have maintained that (now 21) It is very important to me

to make a good living and I feel very proud watching my income rise

little by little each year. As an unschooled adult I felt pressured to

succeed professionally because people doubted I could/would, also to

show my younger siblings what that looks like for us.”

• Self-employed piano and violin instructor and aspiring performer. This

28-year-old woman, who was homeschooled to age 10 and unschooled after

that, had two jobs at the time she responded to the survey. One was that

of self-employed web designer, a business she had maintained for about

ten years. The other—and more significant job to her—was that of

self-employed piano and violin instructor, which she had been doing for

about seven years. Concerning the latter, she wrote:“This is my career

path, and I have built it all myself…. I currently have 31 students. I

teach one-on-one private lessons, teaching pieces/songs, theory, ear

training, music history, composition, technique, performance, and share

my passion for music. I love my job!”

In response to our question about financial independence, she wrote:

“Yes. I run my own business, and it brings in enough income to

comfortably sustain a living in the expensive area of [name of city

deleted]. ‘Making a good living’ is very important to me. But the way I

look at making a good living is as follows: Being financially

responsible for my own life and affording the things that are important

to me. And most importantly, doing this in a way that brings me joy.”

In concluding her response to our career question, she wrote: “I love my

current career as a music teacher, but I am also aspiring to perform

with my band as a second career path. I play bass and sing in this band,

and next week we are heading in to the studio to record a full-length

album that we raised the money for through a Kickstarter campaign. … We

are continuing to work toward our goals with this record, making touring

plans for 2014, and looking over an offer from a record label.”

A high percentage were entrepreneurs.

As I noted in the first post in the series, respondents were coded as

being entrepreneurs if they had started their own business and were

making a living at it or working toward making a living at it. This

category overlapped greatly with the creative arts category, as many

were in the business of selling their own creative arts or services.

Overall, by our coding, 40 (53%) of the respondents were entrepreneurs.

This percentage, too, was greatest for those in the always-unschooled

group (63%), but in this case the difference across groups did not

approach statistical significance. A number of the case examples

presented above are also examples of entrepreneurship.

Sociologists who have studied work satisfaction have found that the

kinds of jobs and careers that are most satisfying to people are those

that involve a great deal of occupational self-direction. One thing that

is eminently clear from our study is that the unschoolers who responded

to our survey had, overwhelmingly, chosen careers very high in this

quality. They were, by enlarge, working for themselves or in work

environments where they were their own bosses. No big surprise here:

People who opted out of top-down schooling, where they would be the

underlings doing work dictated to them by others, generally opted out of

that in their careers also.

 A high percentage, especially of men, chose STEM careers.

We had not initially thought of coding the careers to see how many were

in the STEM (science, technology, engineering, and math) category, but

did so after the question was raised in a comment on the first post. We

used the definition of STEM published by the National Science Foundation

(here), which is broader than some, and includes social sciences as well

as natural sciences, technology, engineering, and math. However, we only

included people in the social sciences if they were conducting research

in that realm and/or were doing applied work that made use of technical

aspects of a social science. As we did with other analyses, Gina and I

first coded independently and then compared notes and resolved

differences in discussion.

Overall, by our coding, 22 (29%) of the 75 participants were pursuing

STEM careers. When we broke this down by gender (leaving out the person

who did not wish to be classified by gender), we found that 13 (22%) of

the 58 women and 8 (50%) of the 16 men in the sample were coded as

having STEM careers. Despite the relatively small number of men in the

sample, this difference in ratio is statistically significant (p = .030

by a chi square test). Apparently, the tendency for men to go into such

careers at a higher rate than women, which has been well established for

the general population, occurs among unschoolers as well.

The majority of those in STEM in our sample were in some aspect of

engineering or computer technology, but the sample also included an

archaeologist, field biologist, math and science teacher, intelligence

analyst, and four involved in various aspects of medical technology.

In the next and final post on our survey, I will examine the grown

unschoolers’ overall evaluations of their unschooling experiences. What

did they like and not like about being unschooled? What was their social

life like? Would they unschool their own children? Are there any who

wish they hadn’t been unschooled, and, if so, what are their regrets?

What Do Grown Unschoolers Think of Unschooling? IV in Series

Most were very happy to have been unschooled, but a few were not. Why?

Published on July 12, 2014 by Peter Gray in Freedom to Learn

This is the last in a series of four posts concerning a survey,

conducted recently by Gina Riley and me, of 75 adults (age 18 to 49,

median age 24) who were “unschooled” during much or all of what would

otherwise have been their K-12 school years. “Unschoolers” do not go to

school and, unlike traditional homeschoolers, are not required by their

parents or others to do school-like activities at home. They are not

presented with a curriculum, or required lessons, or a system of

academic evaluation. Their parents and others may help in various ways,

but unschooled children are in charge of their own educations.

Another term for unschooling, favored by some, is “life learning.”

Unschooled children live their lives, and in the process they learn. To

unschoolers, what we normally think of as the “school years” are not

different educationally from other years; people learn all the time.

They learn incidentally as they play, work, and converse. They also

learn deliberately, to solve real-life problems and to prepare for

future steps in life; but, for unschoolers, such deliberate learning is

always their own choice, at their own initiative.

In the first post in this series, I described the methods of the survey,

presented a breakdown of the respondents based on the last grade of

school or homeschool they had completed before unschooling (24 of them

had always been unschooled), and presented a statistical summary of the

results. In the second post I elaborate on their experiences with higher

education, after unschooling; and in the third post I described the

careers they have pursued. In brief, the findings presented in those

posts indicate that the grown unschoolers who responded to our survey

had no particular difficulty pursuing higher education and careers, that

they have veered toward careers in the arts and careers that fall into

the National Science Foundation’s definition of STEM careers, and that

many have started their own businesses. Now, in this post, I elaborate

on the respondents’ subjective evaluations of their unschooling

experience.

Most of the participants expect to unschool their own children, if

they have children.

Perhaps the best indicator of their feelings about unschooling came in

their responses to the 9th and final question in our survey: If you

choose to have children, do you think you will choose to unschool them?

Why or why not? 

One respondent omitted this question. Of the other 74, 50 (67%)

responded in a way that we interpreted as a clear “yes,” indicating that

they would definitely unschool their own child, or would unless the

child expressed a clear preference for something else or circumstances

prevented it. This number includes eight respondents who already had

children of school age and were unschooling them. The reasons they gave

for preferring to unschool their children are quite similar to the

answers they gave (below) to our question about the advantages they

experienced in their own unschooling.

Another nineteen (25%) responded in a way that we interpreted as

“maybe,” meaning that they would consider unchooling, but would weigh it

against other possibilities, such as a progressive or democratic

alternative school. Only five (7%) responded in a way that we

interpreted as a definite or likely “no.” Of these, two were very

unhappy about their own unschooling (described later); another felt that

unschooling worked well for her but poorly for her younger brother, so

she was against unschooling except for highly self-motivated

individuals; another preferred democratic schooling (such as a Sudbury

school) over unschooling, for the greater sense of community it offered;

and a fifth, who was in the military, favored a semi-structured school

environment, such as a Montessori school, so the child would learn to

follow rules set by others, including ones that seemed arbitrary.

Most were happy with their social lives as unschoolers and valued

the age-diversity of their friends.

A common question that homeschoolers and unschoolers endure is about

their social lives. An assumption, and a stereotype, is that children

who do not attend a school would not make friends, would not learn how

to get along with peers, and would grow up socially awkward. At the risk

of generating some eye rolling, we, too, asked about socialization. The

sixth question of the survey was: What was your social life like growing

up? How did you meet other kids your age? How was your social experience

as an unschooler similar to or different from the types of social

experiences you have now?

Our coding of responses to this question indicated that 52 (69%) of the

75 were clearly happy about their social lives as unschoolers. Of the

remaining 23, nine described what we coded as a “poor” social life, and

the other 14 expressed mixed feelings. Those with a poor social life

talked mostly about social isolation—a point to which I’ll return later.

Those with mixed feelings typically wrote of difficulties finding

compatible friends—difficulties that might or might not be attributable

to unschooling. (Not everyone in school has an easy time finding

compatible friends.)

Most of the respondents appeared to have had no particular difficulty

meeting other children and making friends. Forty-one (55%) of the 75

wrote that their local homeschooling group was a major source of

friendships. Thirty-two (43%) stated that organized afterschool

activities—such as dance, theatre, sports, and art classes—provided

opportunities to meet others and make friends. Many also mentioned

church or religious organizations, community or volunteer associations,

and such youth organizations as Boys and Girls Clubs, 4H, and Scouting.

Teenagers who took part-time jobs met others through their work. Eight

participants made special mention of Not Back to School Camp as a place

where they made lasting friendships with other unschoolers, which were

maintained through the Internet when camp wasn’t in session. Some also

stated that their families were very social and involved in the

community, so friends were made through family connections.

Even though we didn’t ask about age mixing, 51 (68%) of the respondents

mentioned that an advantage of not going to school was that they

interacted with and made friends with people of all ages. Many wrote

about the special value of friendships with older and younger people.

Some pointed out that in the real world, outside of school, people must

know how to get along with others of all ages, so, in that sense at

least, the social lives of unschoolers (and homeschoolers in general)

are more normal than are the age-segregated social lives of children in

school.

One 19-year-old woman, who apparently enjoyed (and still enjoys) an

especially rich social life, wrote: “I made friends at church or in the

neighborhood or through sports or random classes I would take. I made

friends at the store, at the post office or at the park. I made friends

with people of all walks of life, all ages, all social and economic

backgrounds. Our house was and still is a meeting place for many

different types of people. We have always had the house where hungry

kids came for a meal, where any of my mother's friends or brothers would

come for a place to crash when things went awry or a place for just

hiding out for a weekend from all that was bothering you. Some nights we

cook for 20 people, others only for our family, so it is never dull. It

is a great way to learn about people when you see them in all different

situations and all different lights. I have learned what true friends

are and have the ability to discern true friendship from passing

friendship in most cases. My best friends are a 15-year-old girl who

loves to dance and who is crafty, a young man my age who is slowly going

blind but who is very driven, and an older woman who is enjoying

retirement. It gives me perspectives I don't think I could gain from a

group of people only my own age.”

An example of a response that we coded as a poor social life was this

one, written by a Canadian woman, who was quite happy with other aspects

of her unschooling experience: “My social life was not very good, mainly

because of our location. It was a very small town with very typical

middle-of-nowhere problems. Drinking, drugs, poverty and the like. I

realise in retrospect that most of the children who were my neighbours

had grown up in a bad situation and didn't know any better, but I didn't

understand that at the time and I was miserable. By the time I was a

teenager and we had moved to a new province, I found that I just

couldn't break into the social groups of the local homeschooling

community and, in the end, I wasn't really interested in doing so. My

family did things differently, even from an unschooling standpoint, and

social experiences usually have an element of culture shock for both

parties.”

The respondents valued most the freedom unschooling gave them and

the sense of personal responsibility that came with that freedom.

Question 7 of the survey read, “What, for you, were the main advantages

of unschooling? Please answer both in terms of how you felt as a child

growing up and how you feel now, looking back at your experiences. In

your view, how did unschooling help you in your transition toward

adulthood?” 

The great majority of the respondents wrote enthusiastically about the

advantages of unschooling. Almost all of them, in various ways,

commented on the freedom that unschooling gave them to find and pursue

their own interests and learn in their own ways. Roughly 70% also said,

in one way or another, that unschooling enabled them to develop as

highly self-motivated, self-directed, responsible individuals, who take

charge of their own lives. A similar percentage wrote about learning

opportunities they had as unschoolers that would not have been available

if they had been in school.

Many also wrote about a seamless transition to adult life. Unschooling

is much more like adult life than school is. In this context, a fair

number also talked about getting a head start on their careers

(discussed in the previous post). They were able to focus and become

expert in ways that would not have been possible had they been in

school.

Some also described how unschooling allowed them to get to know

themselves, discover their own passions, and find out how to make their

personality work in the world. In this context, several wrote explicitly

about learning to value the ways in which they are different from other

people and to overcome any fears of being different, or (if always

unschooled) about growing up without such fears.

It’s interesting to compare these responses to those that parents

(mostly mothers) in unschooling families gave to a similar question

about the advantages of unschooling that we asked in a previous survey

(here). In that survey, the two most frequent categories of advantages

mentioned were (a) leaning advantages for the child and (b) family

closeness. In that study, 57% of the parents reported that unschooling,

in one way or another, resulted in improved learning for their child or

children; and the same percentage said, in one way or another, that

unschooling allowed family members to spend more time with one another

and live more harmoniously with one another (because of lack of

arguments and tension about following a school schedule or a homeschool

curriculum).

In contrast to the parents in the previous survey, only eighteen (24%)

of the participants in the present survey mentioned increased time,

closeness or harmony with their family as an advantage of unschooling.

This is quite consistent with the view, which I have expressed elsewhere

(e.g. here), that children—no matter how much they need and love their

parents—are in many ways more oriented toward moving on, toward

adulthood, beyond their family of origin. I think that is one reason why

the age-mixed nature of friendships outside of the family was

spontaneously mentioned by so many of the respondents to the present

survey, and also why they focused so heavily on developing their sense

of independence and responsibility. The biological destiny of children,

which parents sometimes forget, is to move beyond their family of

origin; that family is just the starting point in their life course. It

is interesting, in this regard, that a major complaint of the three who

disliked unschooling was that their parents isolated them and prevented

them from exploring outside of the family or outside of the insular

group with which the family was tied.

To provide a taste of the ways our respondents described the advantages

of unchooling, here are two of the responses to Question 7, somewhat

randomly chosen:

• A 37-year-old woman who left school after first grade wrote: “The

advantages of unschooling for me growing up I felt were (in priority

order): 1) being able to sleep when and as long as I needed, 2) having

time to do all the things I wanted to do (reading books, building tree

forts, knitting, making up plays, riding my bike, playing games,

exploring trails in the woods, swimming, baking, making things etc.

etc.), 3) being able to work and make money without school hours getting

in the way. Looking back now, I feel all those same things were

definitely advantages, more than I knew at the time even! Though also I

feel unschooling nurtured my one true talent--completing things. I get

stuff done. Unschooling ensured my ability to "think outside the box" as

they say, and leaves me now with the ability to make a plan and do it,

relishing in negotiating any obstacle and loving having the power to

make good things happen. How did unschooling help me in my transition to

adulthood? Well, in many ways I started as an adult, responsible for my

own thinking and doing, so there was no sudden transition at all.”

• A 28-year-old woman with no schooling but some curriculum-based

homeschooling before unschooling wrote: “As a kid, I felt happy to have

so much time out of my day to play and have fun. I could spend more time

doing the fun stuff rather than being forced into things I didn’t enjoy.

As an adult now, I feel I’ve had the time to explore my own interests

and not have activities, knowledge and ideas forced on me, so instead I

grew to enjoy them. For example, I’ve independently read a lot of

classic books since I was young, which I don’t think I would have wanted

to do if they had been forced on me. …. I’ve been able to take ideas out

of classics that haven’t been explained to me (with bias) in some class.

In terms of transitioning to adulthood, I’ve learned to be direct and

independent. I never had gender roles forced on me, and don’t have a lot

of the insecurities and limitations that other girls my age have.

Because of my knowledge of computer programming, and nerdy interests

like Star Trek, I’m very logical and direct. I’m unafraid to say what I

mean (although I’ve learned more tact over the years), and I’m fiercely

independent. I don’t believe that we’re as limited in life as we

think.” 

The most frequently mentioned disadvantage of unschooling was

dealing with others’ opinions about it.

Question 8 of the survey read, “What, for you, were the main

disadvantages of unschooling? Again, please answer both in terms of how

you felt as a child growing up and how you feel now. In your view, did

unschooling hinder you at all in your transition toward adulthood?”

Twenty-eight of the 75 respondents didn’t indicate any disadvantage at

all, and most of the rest made it clear that, to them, the disadvantages

were minor compared to the advantages.

By our coding, the most frequent category of disadvantage was dealing

with other people’s opinions—mentioned by 21 (28%) of the participants.

It’s interesting to note that this was also the most frequently

mentioned disadvantage in our previous study of unschooling parents,

where it was mentioned by 46% of the respondents (see here). Dealing

with others’ opinions seemed to be more distressing to the parents, in

the previous study, than to the unschooled children, in the present

study. This seems not surprising, as criticisms and doubts would more

often be directed toward parents than toward children, and parents feel

responsible for the unschooling decision. A typical comment in this

category, in the present study, is the following: “As a kid, I found it

endlessly annoying that I had to constantly explain my family’s choice

to unschool. It wasn’t the norm, which was equally exciting and

inconvenient”

The next most common disadvantage, mentioned by sixteen (21%) of the

participants, was some degree of social isolation, which came most

commonly from the lack of other unschoolers nearby and difficulties of

socializing with school children because of their busy schedules and

different orientation toward life. For example one wrote: “The main

disadvantage of unschooling for me was that I wasn’t in close proximity

to other unschoolers after the age of 13….My closest friends during my

teen years...were people I met through NBTSC [Not Back to School Camp]

and lived far away.” Also included in this category were two or three

who complained about lack of dating opportunities.

Only eight (11%) mentioned any sort of learning deficit as a

disadvantage. Only three of these described this as a major

disadvantage, and those were the three (described below) who were most

negative about their unschooling experience. The other five generally

indicated that the learning deficit was a minor problem, solved by

making up the deficit when they needed to. The most frequently mentioned

subject in which they felt deficient, not surprisingly, was math. (As a

college professor who taught statistics to social science majors for a

number of years, I can attest that many, many people who studied math

for 12 years prior to starting college also complain about, and

demonstrate, a deficiency in that subject!)

Three respondents were very unhappy about their unschooling

experience and complained of negligent parenting.

Of the 75 respondents, only three indicated that the disadvantages, for

them, outweighed the advantages. It is instructive to look closely at

them, to understand the conditions in which unschooling is not a good

idea. In all three cases the mothers were described as in poor mental

health and the fathers as uninvolved. In all three cases, the

respondents felt socially isolated, ignorant, stigmatized, and “weird”

because of their unschooling and their family environment. Two of these

respondents attributed the isolation partly to the fundamentalist

Christian beliefs of their parents. Here is a brief summary of each

case.

One respondent, a 26-year-old woman who grew up in the UK, wrote: “I

actively disagree with unschooling because I believe that it is a very

easy way for unwell parents to bring their children up without those

parents needing to actively participate/integrate into society…. Because

of my mother's poor mental health she found it difficult making friends

and generally disliked attending social events, etc. I think this was

the main reason she decided to unschool us.” This person went on to say

that she felt incredibly isolated socially and didn’t study anything

during her unschooling years. She went on to higher education in fine

arts, and a job as an art teacher, not because she was interested in art

or enjoys teaching, but because she didn’t feel qualified for anything

else. In response to our question about the disadvantages of

unschooling, for her, she wrote: “My experience of unschooling was

negative in every way. I have been bullied as an adult for being 'weird'

and for working in low status, low paid jobs. I have also had difficulty

finding long-term boyfriends, as although I'm an attractive and

intelligent person, there aren't many people who actively want to date

people who have huge chips on their shoulders about the way they were

brought up (without formal education).”

The second respondent, a 35-year-old woman, was Christian homeschooled

through third grade and then was unschooled, not because of a deliberate

decision, but because of her mother’s psychological and physical

disabilities and consequent inability to manage homeschooling. This

person also wrote that her mother kept her out of school “to be able to

control the kinds of information we were exposed to, including sex

education, science, or health, as well as control the kinds of people we

interacted with.” She, like the other two, was never presented with a

choice about her schooling. She felt deprived of school, not privileged

to avoid it. As an adult she has worked mostly at temporary jobs such as

cleaning or house painting, but, at the time of the survey, was enrolled

in a bachelor’s program in industrial design. In response to our

question about the disadvantages of unschooling, she wrote:

“Disadvantages would be not having the groundwork of basic knowledge and

social skills! I am also uncomfortable with most people and prefer to be

alone, which may be from my experience growing up alone and

unsupervised, but also might just be my nature, I don't know. As a kid

the main thing was knowing that I was not fitting in anywhere, always

being the "weirdos" in the neighborhood, always missing rites of passage

and being alone too often. It was a very lonely and isolated life,

rather oppressive given the strict religious upbringing. I also feel now

that I learned more about religion than I did things that would be of

any use to me later in life.”

The third respondent, a 29-year-old Ph.D. candidate studying

archaeology, wrote that her mother wanted her to have a Christian

education, but pulled her out of a Baptist academy in fourth grade

because of the mother’s conflicts with the staff. The mother intended to

homeschool her, using a Christian curriculum, but failed to follow

through because of her own psychological depression. In this

respondent’s words, “Her personal struggles with depression, which led

to her inability to function in running a house and supervising my

homeschooling activities, was the reason for the switch to unschooling.”

She wrote further: “In my opinion, I was ‘unschooled’ simply because my

mother could not tolerate the anxiety of having me in public or private

school -- where other non-Christian people could ‘negatively influence’

me. She needed me at home to do chores and take care of her, because she

was a non-functional depressed person. She preferred me to have a

socially isolated existence from age 9 to 18 than risk a secular

education. My father clearly did not want me homeschooled or unschooled,

but he never did anything about it and let my mother do as she pleased.”

Concerning her social life, she wrote: “My ‘social’ experiences as an

unschooler were restricted to interactions with my parents, my brother,

occasionally more distant family members, and going to the grocery store

or doctor when I was sick.”

This person was not entirely negative about her unschooling. In response

to our question about advantages, she wrote: “As an adult looking back,

I think being in school while dealing with my dysfunctional and abusive

parents at home probably would have led me to make some poor social

decisions that could have had long-lasting impacts. So, as painful and

traumatic as being kept at home in an isolated manner was, I feel it was

preferable to the other options. I had a lot of time to myself to think

about things. I developed my own secret meditation practice. These

habits of self-sufficiency and self-reflectiveness helped me transition

toward adulthood, particularly in cutting loose from my mother's

controlling grasp.” She also wrote, in response to an earlier question,

“I was also a self-driven learner as an unschooler, and much of my

employment now requires self-driven education—whether for my

dissertation research or for the development of my teaching pedagogy.”

In response to our question about disadvantages of unschooling, she

wrote, in part: “As an adult looking back, the main disadvantage was

that the social isolation allowed my parents to get away with more abuse

and neglect than they otherwise would have. I suffered severe abuse and

neglect during the time I was unschooled. Lacking a formal education did

chip away at my self-confidence as I transitioned toward adulthood. I

carried a nagging sense of unworthiness for quite a while; I still feel

permanently damaged in some way, like I am a freak who was kept in a

cage and not educated formally. As I prepared to begin formal college

education, my unschooling experience hindered me by having failed to

provide standard levels of math and science knowledge. I had to tutor

myself to pass the GED. I had to tutor myself remedial math and science

skills to keep up in introductory-level college courses.”

It is worth adding that the only other respondent, in the whole sample,

who commented on the role of religion in her upbringing was also very

negative about the fundamentalist influence. Her parents became extreme

Christian fundamentalists when she was 15. She wrote, “At that time, my

role shifted to full-time caretaker for my younger siblings. I was

expected to get married and have lots of children rather than having any

type of career, so further education was viewed as superfluous in that

subculture. … After my parents became involved with the fundamentalists,

we were cut off almost completely from interaction with others outside

the tight-knit religious setting. Interactions were mostly centered

around child-care, chores and religious meetings with no free time to

simply socialize.” This person, nevertheless, went on to become a very

successful writer and noted that she will unschool her own daughter. She

is not against unschooling, but strongly against the social and

intellectual isolation that occurred in her home when her parents

converted.

A Final Thought

Although the sample is relatively small, the findings of our survey

suggest that unschooling can work beautifully if the whole family,

including the children, buy into it, if the parents are psychologically

healthy and happy, and if the parents are socially connected to the

broader world and facilitate their children’s involvement with that

world. It can even work well when some of these criteria are not fully

met. Children growing up unschooled in such environments take control of

their own lives and have the support of their families to find and

follow their own paths to happiness. But when the dominant parent is

truly dysfunctional, or when the family practices a philosophy of

isolation from the broader culture rather than integration with it, or

when the unschooled child would prefer to go to school, then unschooling

can lead to resentment and, quite justifiably, to feelings of abuse and

neglect.

Finally, TO THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE SURVEY, Gina and I say, THANK YOU!

This was a lengthy questionnaire to fill out, and many of you wrote long

and beautiful essays in response to each question. We have learned much

as a result of your willingness to share your experiences.

[1] Note added March 2, 2012. In the earlier version of this post I used

the labels "radical unschooling," "moderate unschooling," and "relaxed

homeschooling" for the three categories of ways that the respondents

described their unschooling practices. However, several readers pointed

out that these terms--especially the term "radical unschooling"--have

meanings to people in the unschooling community that are different from

the meanings that formed the basis for our categories. Therefore, I

changed the labels to, simply, Categories 1, 2, and 3. -PG