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Consider that you may never become a full stack developer, but you can easily be a full snack developer. Nor, really, web programmers should not call themselves developers.
9 months ago
Okay, I concede you the last word... ☢️ · 9 months ago
@mc - web programmer is so 20th century....
Senior Cookie Shuffler,
Dynamic Corporate Brander,
W3school Teacher,
...
the possibilities are endless · 9 months ago
@mfoo I like the second one, but it's too long. Perhaps sdps would be nice, but it is the same acronym as for SharePoint Deployment Planning Services (Microsoft). So, no. What's wrong with being called web programmer? · 9 months ago
how about software "engineer"? or surveillance dark pattern specialist?
to be honest, people can put whatever they want on their business cards. CME - Chief Meeting Endurer · 9 months ago
so I'm confuzed, is it bad to be a web programmer? Kind of got that vibe from the post, but of course I could've misinterpreted it. · 9 months ago
@mc I absolutely have nothing against snack developers! :-) I like to play devils advocate, it gets peoples discussion juices flowing. Your absolutely spot on pointing out my previous post! I guess everyone who makes a "hello world" or "visit count" script is technically a developer or "coder" by that logic. I take back my disagreement, moar snaks please. · 9 months ago
@haze I also "know a lot of people cooking up impressive JS/WASM/Web-GL code." Well, not really a lot, but some.
Now, I'm not saying that is the reason why we are here... But that is the reason why we are here, right? ;-)
Anyway, I was just trying to make a (foolish) joke about the similarity of the words stack and snack. LOL
However, your answer reminded me of a discussion I read on another social net. Someone asked if one had to know math in order to be a programmer. Man, you should see the answers! ROFL · 9 months ago
@smokey According to the (mentioned) Merrian-Webster dict. developer also means:
a chemical used to develop exposed photographic materials
a person who develops real estate
(and those definitions actually come first)
I thought that you would be the remotest person to comment as you have after that post that starts with "Yo, IT people...", and follows with "Its like calling everyone who remotely works with rocks a stoner.."
That will teach me! LOL
I do hope you have nothing against full snack developers. ;-) · 9 months ago
I need more context. I know a lot of people cooking up impressive JS/WASM/Web-GL code. Tho I has to agree if you're just writing HTML and CSS. yeah.. it's like writing LaTeX. You are doign some elaborate layout. But that's no program.
And there's also the meta question of making a turning machine out of Rule 110 in CSS3.. That's programming.. ish? · 9 months ago
I respectfully disagree on the basis that web programmers calling themselves developers is technically correct according to the dictionary definitions of the words. These are taken from merriam-webster.com
Developer: a person or company that develops computer software
Software: programs for a computer
Program: a sequence of coded instructions that can be inserted into a mechanism (such as a computer)
what are sites if not code? If you accept these definitions are reasonable, then web-makers are newbie developers.
It boils down to an idea that the average web maker doesn't have the skill of a IT trade professional and thus hasn't earned the *right* to even share the same terminology space. · 9 months ago