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[2022-01-26T01:24:43Z] <maximum_yellow> omanom that't my guess too [2022-01-26T01:55:39Z] <maximum_yellow> yeah, so i don't know what fedora is doing, but according to the pipewire FAQ: ``PipeWire still uses the original PulseAudio client library but has a reimplementation of the client JACK library for compatibility with existing applications.'' [2022-01-26T01:55:58Z] <maximum_yellow> which reads to me like pipewire will not provide libpulse.so [2022-01-26T02:10:46Z] <tleydxdy[m]> rip then [2022-01-26T02:13:05Z] <dilyn> yeah looks like the pipewire-pulse package on arch requires pulse [2022-01-26T02:13:16Z] <dilyn> interesante. I thought it was just like jack [2022-01-26T02:25:40Z] <phinxy> `cbfstool` from https://github.com/coreboot/coreboot/tree/master/util/cbfstool builds a binary without errors but when its executed "Segmentation fault" ! [2022-01-26T02:32:03Z] <phinxy> https://termbin.com/ibsw [2022-01-26T02:43:13Z] <phinxy> there is a warning during build: relocation in read-only section `.rodata.vb2_sig_names' [2022-01-26T05:16:24Z] <testuser[m]> Hi [2022-01-26T10:08:15Z] <illiliti> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220126043947.10058-1-ariadne@dereferenced.org/T/ [2022-01-26T10:08:22Z] <illiliti> i recommend applying this patch, just in case... [2022-01-26T10:16:43Z] <chaffity> Morning everybody! [2022-01-26T10:16:50Z] <testuser[m]> Hi [2022-01-26T10:16:58Z] <chaffity> It's been a while since I've popped up [2022-01-26T10:17:16Z] <chaffity> But I've hit a wall with some missing shared objects [2022-01-26T10:17:42Z] <chaffity> I'm working on getting AppImages to work, I know others have tried this too [2022-01-26T10:18:28Z] <chaffity> I'm so close, but trouble is, the package I'm trying to run is expect the "libcom_err" shared object from e2fsprogs [2022-01-26T10:18:49Z] <testuser[m]> object or symbol? [2022-01-26T10:19:23Z] <chaffity> Object [2022-01-26T10:19:28Z] <testuser[m]> Show [2022-01-26T10:19:39Z] <testuser[m]> the exact message [2022-01-26T10:20:06Z] <testuser[m]> Also arent appimages linked to glibc? [2022-01-26T10:20:24Z] <chaffity> "relocation R_X86_64_32 against hidden symbol `__TMC_END__' can not be used when making a shared object" [2022-01-26T10:20:35Z] <chaffity> "relocation R_X86_64_32 against `.ctors' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC" [2022-01-26T10:21:03Z] <chaffity> RE: glibc, I've solved that issue using namespaces, Firefox DRM works beautifully thanks to that [2022-01-26T10:21:14Z] <chaffity> I can share my solution if others are interested [2022-01-26T10:21:29Z] <testuser[m]> U mean use another distro for glibc [2022-01-26T10:21:36Z] <testuser[m]> container sorta [2022-01-26T10:21:38Z] <testuser[m]> thingy [2022-01-26T10:21:41Z] <chaffity> Sort of [2022-01-26T10:21:51Z] <testuser[m]> What are you building though [2022-01-26T10:22:24Z] <chaffity> Okay, so I'm building e2fsprogs and trying to install the shared libraries, because KISS by default doesn't appear to install these [2022-01-26T10:22:47Z] <chaffity> The key shared object I'm after from that package is "libcom_err.so.2" [2022-01-26T10:23:36Z] <testuser[m]> there is LDFLAGS="-static" at the top of the file which makes ur e2fsprogs try to build a shared library which is statically linked [2022-01-26T10:23:36Z] <testuser[m]> Just remove the line [2022-01-26T10:24:32Z] <chaffity> FFS [2022-01-26T10:24:40Z] <chaffity> Thank you so much, I had blinders on [2022-01-26T10:24:49Z] <chaffity> I was focusing entirely on the configure lines [2022-01-26T10:25:40Z] <chaffity> Whoop, they're done :D [2022-01-26T10:26:17Z] <testuser[m]> Also there's no issue with appimages on kiss [2022-01-26T10:26:23Z] <testuser[m]> There is issue with appimages on musl [2022-01-26T10:26:39Z] <testuser[m]> I mean its not related to kiss packagds [2022-01-26T10:26:49Z] <chaffity> Yep, poor wording, not pointing fingers at KISS! [2022-01-26T10:27:21Z] <chaffity> The rhetoric of "AppImages run anywhere" needs to be curbed from their end [2022-01-26T10:27:32Z] <chaffity> glibc is the bane of my existence some mornings [2022-01-26T10:28:19Z] <testuser[m]> The only thing crappimages should use shared linking for is mesa stuff from host [2022-01-26T10:28:32Z] <testuser[m]> There is nothing else that required to be shared linked [2022-01-26T10:28:43Z] <chaffity> Too true [2022-01-26T10:28:45Z] <testuser[m]> unless it uses dlopen [2022-01-26T10:28:46Z] <chaffity> Crappimages, love it [2022-01-26T12:18:09Z] <illiliti> https://github.com/illiliti/eiwd/releases/tag/1.22-1 [2022-01-26T14:14:51Z] <dilyn> illiliti hard at work [2022-01-26T15:16:24Z] <maximum_yellow> illiliti i couldn't find any reference to this in the docs, but just in case: does eiwd have any hooks for post connection? [2022-01-26T16:05:30Z] <illiliti> maximum_yellow: i haven't tried to setup hooks but i think you can pair dhcpcd with iwd to achieve that [2022-01-26T16:06:01Z] <maximum_yellow> illiliti it didn't occur to me to use dhcpcd for this, thanks [2022-01-26T16:12:21Z] <illiliti> iirc iwd also executes resolvconf if connection succeeded. you can try to put your post-connection scripts into it and see if it works... [2022-01-26T16:15:50Z] <illiliti> to be clear, there is no proper support for hooks, so you have to use workarounds [2022-01-26T16:45:55Z] <phinxy> How long time to compile cups-filters, is it 20 minutes or 2 hours on a slow computer? [2022-01-26T16:46:11Z] <phinxy> I don't get how it can take so long, its a 1.4MB tar [2022-01-26T17:21:21Z] <tleydxdy[m]> something something Turing machine [2022-01-26T18:29:04Z] <testuser[m]> I started learning JavaScript ~20 days ago and I am totally hooked. It's insane, I feel like I am actually hacking when I write JavaScript code. Using things like Object, const and =>, just makes me feel so cool and powerful, unironically lol. [2022-01-26T18:32:14Z] <noocsharp> I started learning JavaScript ~20 days ago and I am totally hooked. It's insane, I feel like I am actually hacking when I write JavaScript code. Using things like [2022-01-26T18:32:20Z] <noocsharp> Object, const and =>, just makes me feel so cool and powerful, unironically lol. [2022-01-26T18:40:07Z] <omanom> bruh [2022-01-26T18:51:55Z] <dilyn> the 'lol' is what seals the deal for me that this is 100% ironic [2022-01-26T18:54:53Z] <noocsharp> i said that completely unironically lol [2022-01-26T19:38:47Z] <travankor> nice copypasta [2022-01-26T19:59:02Z] <cem> best reason to learn JavaScript is to feel cool and powerful [2022-01-26T19:59:15Z] <cem> and hack with polkit [2022-01-26T20:00:17Z] <cem> because you couldn't embed a saner language inside or something [2022-01-26T20:02:04Z] <dilyn> polkit: the first proton app [2022-01-26T20:03:30Z] <cem> I'm afraid to ask what proton is [2022-01-26T20:03:39Z] <cem> but I will [2022-01-26T20:03:49Z] <dilyn> sorry, electron [2022-01-26T20:03:51Z] <dilyn> i'm a dum [2022-01-26T20:03:59Z] <cem> Ah alright [2022-01-26T20:04:14Z] <cem> I was expecting something like "electron but even worse" [2022-01-26T20:04:16Z] <dilyn> though proton does use electron [2022-01-26T20:04:18Z] <dilyn> lol [2022-01-26T20:04:22Z] <dilyn> it's for gaming [2022-01-26T20:04:26Z] <dilyn> valve's baby [2022-01-26T20:04:48Z] <cem> Yeah, I know proton as in the emulator [2022-01-26T20:05:01Z] <cem> hope I can trigger somebody :^) [2022-01-26T20:06:39Z] <dilyn> jk proton doesn't use electron, i've been mishearing all along! [2022-01-26T20:06:45Z] <dilyn> codeweavers how could you do this to me:'( [2022-01-26T20:07:58Z] <cem> I might be totally wrong, but isn't steam electron? [2022-01-26T20:11:09Z] <dilyn> I wouldn't be surprised if they did that to avoid libgl hell [2022-01-26T20:11:50Z] <jslick> hmmm I think neither polkit nor steam is electron. I think polkit just uses spidermonkey. Much lighterweight since it doesn't have rendering engine, DOM, etc. I think steam does embed a web engine though (can't remember which one). So, much like electron, but I think it's still lighterweight than electron [2022-01-26T20:13:02Z] <dilyn> it was mostly a joke, because polkit uses the js engine used in firefox like how electron apps just use chromium [2022-01-26T20:14:15Z] <cem> https://libredd.it/7wftl9 well according to this random comment on reddit, steam doesn't use electron, but chromium embedded framework [2022-01-26T20:18:34Z] <dilyn> steam is an electron fork confirmed [2022-01-26T20:25:16Z] <acheam> hmm song of the day is old [2022-01-26T21:01:32Z] <noocsharp> proton stands for "proton (is not an emulator)" [2022-01-26T21:02:27Z] <dilyn> protine