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[2021-08-15T05:01:03Z] <testuser[m]> Hi
[2021-08-15T05:01:41Z] <testuser[m]> GalaxyNova invidious for alternative ewwtube client
[2021-08-15T05:01:52Z] <testuser[m]> For an alternative alternative LBRY
[2021-08-15T07:36:57Z] <testuser[m]> https://github.com/kisslinux/repo/commit/970b16ac319b7dfda552edbdbf903513a37c7ae7
[2021-08-15T11:06:39Z] * claudia02 waits with popcorn for the new website.
[2021-08-15T13:23:38Z] <Jason123santaOnI> Can someone tell me what changed so that kiss is using Wayland instead of xorg?
[2021-08-15T13:26:17Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> Jason123santaOnI: most common software finally support wayland
[2021-08-15T13:26:27Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> wayland is lighter/simpler than xorg
[2021-08-15T13:26:46Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> so Dylan switched to a wayland only base
[2021-08-15T13:27:53Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> Jason123santaOnI: see https://github.com/kisslinux/repo/issues/270
[2021-08-15T13:28:56Z] <Jason123santaOnI> I will have a look 
[2021-08-15T13:31:01Z] <claudia02> Jason123santaOnI: Requirements were that the software in in 'repo' is buildable without xorg librariers, namely firefox. Also in the beginning of KISS the wayland world just started to become mature enough.
[2021-08-15T13:35:34Z] <Jason123santaOnI> I wanted to use BerryWM but that will not work on Wayland so I have to find something else. 
[2021-08-15T13:38:55Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> Jason123santaOnI: you can still get X working on KISS
[2021-08-15T13:39:04Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> it's just not the default anymore
[2021-08-15T13:50:52Z] <Jason123santaOnI> Yeah I can always get x working but there are no updates to the xorg repo and no support for x anymore. 
[2021-08-15T13:52:58Z] <testuser[m]> You can update the repo yourself
[2021-08-15T13:53:08Z] <testuser[m]> there's a fork aswell
[2021-08-15T13:53:44Z] <testuser[m]> https://github.com/ehawkvu/kiss-xorg
[2021-08-15T14:13:29Z] <Jason123santaOnI> I can check out that fork though there is not much support for xorg if the main project moved to Wayland 
[2021-08-15T14:14:32Z] <testuser[m]> there's barely any graphical programs in KISS repos
[2021-08-15T14:14:59Z] <testuser[m]> i count 6 in the community repo
[2021-08-15T14:15:08Z] <testuser[m]> so it wont be an issue
[2021-08-15T14:40:15Z] <Jason123santaOnI> The community repo is archived at the moment though 
[2021-08-15T14:40:47Z] <Jason123santaOnI> And there are some graphical programs like Firefox and flatpak can be install 
[2021-08-15T14:41:48Z] <testuser[m]> https://github.com/kiss-community/community
[2021-08-15T14:41:50Z] <testuser[m]> its not archived
[2021-08-15T14:44:02Z] <dilyn> https://github.com/kisslinux/repo/commit/970b16ac319b7dfda552edbdbf903513a37c7ae7 this should be illegal 
[2021-08-15T14:44:28Z] <testuser[m]> ♻️
[2021-08-15T15:23:19Z] <soliwilos> Some kind of info file seems like a natural addition in my opinion.
[2021-08-15T15:23:26Z] <konimex> unfortunately looks like the LLVM toolchain won't be able to build mold at present
[2021-08-15T15:23:45Z] <testuser[m]> what's the issue ?
[2021-08-15T15:24:12Z] <konimex> incomplete C++20 support for libcxx, it seems
[2021-08-15T15:24:47Z] <testuser[m]> oh
[2021-08-15T15:25:36Z] <konimex> soliwilos: my only complaint would be the name of the readme file, since it's the only one file in uppercase and therefore, inconsistent
[2021-08-15T15:27:48Z] <Jason123santaOnI> So there is a fork of the community repo that is still maintained 
[2021-08-15T15:31:40Z] <soliwilos> konimex: Yes, I'm not too sure about the full uppercase naming of it either. On the one hand it makes it stand out and easy to spot, also it is common to name a file like that in projects. On the other hand it's not cosistent with the other package files and bugs my aesthetic preferences a bit.
[2021-08-15T15:32:52Z] <soliwilos> s/cosistent/consistent/
[2021-08-15T15:32:52Z] <cotangent> <soliwilos> konimex: Yes, I'm not too sure about the full uppercase naming of it either. On the one hand it makes it stand out and easy to spot, also it is common to name a file like that in projects. On the other hand it's not consistent with the other package files and bugs my aesthetic preferences a bit.
[2021-08-15T15:37:26Z] <soliwilos> I think I'd prefer it in lowercase, whatever it ultimately ends up being named.
[2021-08-15T15:55:45Z] <claudia02> looks like github would be able to display the info file even when called lowercase 'readme'
[2021-08-15T17:51:57Z] <GalaxyNova> is RISC-V usable?
[2021-08-15T18:00:50Z] <noocsharp> that can mean several different things
[2021-08-15T18:17:44Z] <GalaxyNova> noocsharp: Can I buy it along with a motherboard that supports it and just use my computer without any significant performance loss
[2021-08-15T18:59:56Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> GalaxyNova: I've heard about HiFive Unmatched 
[2021-08-15T19:01:11Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> But 600+ $ for a motherboard&cpu with 16gb of ram
[2021-08-15T19:01:15Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> Sheesh
[2021-08-15T19:05:07Z] <GalaxyNova> oof
[2021-08-15T19:09:12Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> And it looks like no browser have a JavaScript jit on riscv
[2021-08-15T19:09:29Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> So any script heavy page will be dog slow
[2021-08-15T19:11:55Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> Oof
[2021-08-15T19:11:56Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> https://youtu.be/bqekGqREf9k
[2021-08-15T19:12:20Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> At the 20m mark
[2021-08-15T19:13:02Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> Cpu benched on blowfish = performs like an Intel Atom N280... 
[2021-08-15T19:13:59Z] <GalaxyNova> that sucks
[2021-08-15T19:14:08Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> Yup :/
[2021-08-15T19:14:30Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> Let's wait a bit more until things mature
[2021-08-15T19:20:00Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> Speaking of mature, IBM POWER is still alive
[2021-08-15T19:21:42Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> But for 3 or 4 grand as the entry ticket, oof again
[2021-08-15T19:23:17Z] <Jason123santaOnI> PowerPC is still alive 
[2021-08-15T19:23:24Z] <Jason123santaOnI> And its open source now 
[2021-08-15T19:24:19Z] <sad_plan> hi