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[2021-08-12T00:01:03Z] <msk[m]> any packaged japanese font?
[2021-08-12T00:06:29Z] <noocsharp> japanese is bloat just use english
[2021-08-12T00:10:08Z] <msk[m]> other way around
[2021-08-12T00:10:55Z] <GalaxyNova> ye unicode is bloat all we need is 256 characters
[2021-08-12T00:21:18Z] <msk[m]> nevermind, I installed a font manually
[2021-08-12T00:24:42Z] <msk[m]> Noto Sans JP
[2021-08-12T02:20:58Z] <m3g> whatever happened to emacs in repo :( I suppose no wayland yet
[2021-08-12T02:36:37Z] <GalaxyNova> How do i switch my install to use localtime instead of UTC time
[2021-08-12T02:55:20Z] <GalaxyNova> and set a timezone
[2021-08-12T02:57:32Z] <GalaxyNova> nvm
[2021-08-12T02:57:37Z] <msk[m]> This  https://kisslinux.org/wiki/software/tzdata works for me
[2021-08-12T02:57:42Z] <msk[m]> Oh
[2021-08-12T03:02:54Z] <GalaxyNova> yep
[2021-08-12T03:07:37Z] <m3g> tzdata
[2021-08-12T03:07:41Z] <m3g> oop
[2021-08-12T03:17:39Z] <GalaxyNova> m3g: Do you know any way to change from UTC time to localtime?
[2021-08-12T03:47:51Z] <testuser[m]> Hi
[2021-08-12T03:48:58Z] <acheam> Hi!
[2021-08-12T03:49:26Z] <acheam> If you ever stop saying "Hi" every day, idk what I would do
[2021-08-12T03:49:40Z] <acheam> its a nice constant
[2021-08-12T04:20:10Z] <m3g> oh I just read lwn.net/Articles/843896
[2021-08-12T04:22:18Z] <m3g> maybe a no-x fork..
[2021-08-12T04:51:52Z] <m3g> sway seems to have a silly default config
[2021-08-12T04:54:24Z] <noocsharp> i think the goal is to do exactly what i3 does, but in wayland
[2021-08-12T04:56:05Z] <m3g> how do you make it use bemenu instead? I started spawning processes that would idle to load 1 and never die
[2021-08-12T04:56:19Z] <m3g> Still trying to get used to  wayland
[2021-08-12T05:01:44Z] <m3g> also wonder what happened to tor package, only needed to change libressl to openssl depend, builds fine
[2021-08-12T05:09:47Z] <acheam> not exactly what i3 does
[2021-08-12T05:09:53Z] <acheam> it has some more features
[2021-08-12T05:10:05Z] <acheam> and ootb some settings are differnt I think
[2021-08-12T05:11:43Z] <acheam> https://github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki/Differences-from-i3
[2021-08-12T05:28:42Z] <testuser[m]> where does wl-copy store it's buffer ? even if you clear it it takes up memory
[2021-08-12T05:29:06Z] <testuser[m]> oh its in /tmp
[2021-08-12T05:49:03Z] <acheam> ew
[2021-08-12T05:49:11Z] <acheam> gtk emacs? no thankyou
[2021-08-12T05:49:34Z] <acheam> oh I was scrolled up, that was in response to m3gs message
[2021-08-12T05:50:10Z] <testuser[m]> Can anyone running sway with busybox mdev replugin their keyboard
[2021-08-12T06:09:57Z] <testuser[m]> it looks like when i repeatedly tap some keys on my kb it gets disconnected and reconnected instantly and sway doesnt like it and kb input just dies until i restart sway
[2021-08-12T06:39:03Z] <m3g> I can't even connect external peripherals
[2021-08-12T06:39:09Z] <m3g> but that's on my kernel config
[2021-08-12T06:39:10Z] <m3g> lol
[2021-08-12T06:56:48Z] <midfavila-laptop> time-zone appropriate greetings, #kisslinux
[2021-08-12T06:56:58Z] <testuser[m]> HI
[2021-08-12T06:57:00Z] <testuser[m]> i
[2021-08-12T06:57:09Z] <midfavila-laptop> iIH
[2021-08-12T13:53:36Z] <acheam> edmrk: could you consider leaving emacs open?
[2021-08-12T14:44:34Z] <micro_O> o/
[2021-08-12T14:46:24Z] <testuser[m]> hi
[2021-08-12T14:49:34Z] <acheam> good morning micro_O 
[2021-08-12T15:13:59Z] <acheam> noocsharp: i vaguely remember you mentioning julia at some point, what are your thoughts on it?
[2021-08-12T15:14:34Z] <acheam> im considering learning it as I get more and more into scientific computing
[2021-08-12T15:19:34Z] <acheam> although im changing my mind now that I read that it is 1-indexed, not 0-indexed
[2021-08-12T15:19:36Z] <acheam> lol
[2021-08-12T15:20:05Z] <micro_O> 1 index for humans, 0 index for computers
[2021-08-12T15:20:27Z] <micro_O> added git-bug for error tracking, so now issues/features/discussions are not tied to github http://0x0.st/-Jv7.png
[2021-08-12T15:20:36Z] <acheam> nice
[2021-08-12T15:20:46Z] <acheam> wait wwhat is the difference between the remainder operator and modulus
[2021-08-12T15:24:05Z] <acheam> oh it has to do with signage
[2021-08-12T15:35:39Z] <testuser[m]> What's a signage
[2021-08-12T15:35:51Z] <testuser[m]> Oh you mean the sign of the result
[2021-08-12T15:36:38Z] <acheam> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13683563/whats-the-difference-between-mod-and-remainder
[2021-08-12T15:37:02Z] <acheam> in C and Julia, % is the remainder, wheras in Python, % is modulo
[2021-08-12T15:43:17Z] <m3g> I have left emacs open but it and dependencies isn't in my computer :(
[2021-08-12T16:32:44Z] <duplex> I'm still trying to get sway to work
[2021-08-12T16:33:14Z] <duplex> When I start sway I get yellow background and no bar or anything and no shortcuts work
[2021-08-12T16:33:40Z] <duplex> https://termbin.com/nt6j
[2021-08-12T16:33:52Z] <duplex> That's why log with verbose enabled
[2021-08-12T16:33:56Z] <duplex> *my
[2021-08-12T16:54:52Z] <claudia02> duplex: Have you installed a font? Having no font available can make issues to not start a terminal and prob issues with the bar 2.
[2021-08-12T17:00:18Z] <duplex> What is the list of fonts I can install
[2021-08-12T17:00:30Z] <duplex> Also installing a font just installing a package
[2021-08-12T17:00:31Z] <soliwilos> duplex: Is /dev/dri/card0 owned by root:video and is your user in the video group?
[2021-08-12T17:01:33Z] <claudia02> duplex: 'kiss s *font*
[2021-08-12T17:02:46Z] <claudia02> '
[2021-08-12T17:03:08Z] <rio6> oh what kiss s supports *
[2021-08-12T17:03:24Z] <duplex> It just returned fontconfig
[2021-08-12T17:03:31Z] <rio6> til
[2021-08-12T17:03:42Z] <duplex> My user is in video group and how do I check the first thing
[2021-08-12T17:04:16Z] <soliwilos> "ls -l /dev/dri"
[2021-08-12T17:04:27Z] <claudia02> duplex: oh, my bad. There is 'ttf-crosscore' in the mainrepot try that instead :p
[2021-08-12T17:04:53Z] <duplex> It video in the output
[2021-08-12T17:04:59Z] <duplex> So I'd assume yes
[2021-08-12T17:05:52Z] <duplex> That package isn't found
[2021-08-12T17:07:03Z] <claudia02> navigate to repo/extra/ttf-...
[2021-08-12T17:07:36Z] <soliwilos> It's ttf-croscore
[2021-08-12T17:07:52Z] <duplex> That worked
[2021-08-12T17:08:29Z] <duplex> Sway works now!
[2021-08-12T17:08:31Z] <claudia02> I think dylan will adress this documentation issue once his new website is live. https://github.com/kisslinux/website/issues/85
[2021-08-12T17:08:38Z] <duplex> Thanks for the help!
[2021-08-12T17:09:08Z] <claudia02> heh. Np :p
[2021-08-12T17:11:46Z] <duplex> New issue. Foot's text is all jumbled/compressed
[2021-08-12T17:16:59Z] <soliwilos> You may need to create/edit ~/.config/foot/foot.ini
[2021-08-12T17:17:10Z] <soliwilos> It has a font setting.
[2021-08-12T17:23:47Z] <duplex> I'll look into that in a bit
[2021-08-12T17:23:55Z] <duplex> For now how do I shutdown kiss lol
[2021-08-12T17:24:09Z] <duplex> Shutdown isn't a command so now I'm confused
[2021-08-12T17:24:59Z] <duplex> Found it nvm
[2021-08-12T17:35:26Z] <testuser[m]> kall
[2021-08-12T17:48:51Z] <noocsharp> i've never used julia, but from the outside it seems like a better alternative to python for scientific computing
[2021-08-12T19:04:20Z] <duplex> does anyone have a KISS friendly office suite they can recommend 
[2021-08-12T19:06:30Z] <m3g> ok, emacs-nox built for now...
[2021-08-12T19:21:23Z] <duplex> has anyone pacakged libreoffice for kiss?
[2021-08-12T19:23:56Z] <GalaxyNova> I think so
[2021-08-12T19:24:26Z] <GalaxyNova> https://github.com/eudaldgr/kiss-garbage/tree/master/office
[2021-08-12T19:27:00Z] <duplex> it is not libreoffice however it seems to be a good alternative
[2021-08-12T19:31:01Z] <acheam> yeah thats not libreoffice
[2021-08-12T19:31:11Z] <acheam> abiword is decent though
[2021-08-12T19:35:38Z] <duplex> I might pacakge libreoffice tho
[2021-08-12T19:35:56Z] <duplex> I can't have too many deficiencies 
[2021-08-12T19:36:00Z] <duplex> *it
[2021-08-12T19:39:29Z] <duplex> I uh stand corrected
[2021-08-12T19:39:44Z] <duplex> just the core package as 59 dependancies
[2021-08-12T19:56:16Z] <acheam> lol libreoffice is *HUGE*
[2021-08-12T19:56:23Z] <acheam> why do you think nobodies packaged it?
[2021-08-12T20:05:34Z] <acheam> technically it only supports glibc
[2021-08-12T20:05:38Z] <acheam> also it requires java
[2021-08-12T20:05:47Z] <acheam> idk what version though
[2021-08-12T20:06:17Z] <acheam> looks like dbus can be disabled at least
[2021-08-12T20:32:22Z] <acheam> they got it to run on Haiku though, so maybe anything is possible
[2021-08-12T20:33:12Z] <acheam> interesting libreoffice has its own gui abstraction toolkit
[2021-08-12T20:33:19Z] <acheam> would be cool to factor out
[2021-08-12T20:33:29Z] <GalaxyNova> onlyoffice is nice
[2021-08-12T20:33:35Z] <acheam> why?
[2021-08-12T20:33:41Z] <acheam> oh onlyoffice
[2021-08-12T20:33:43Z] <acheam> yeah its cool
[2021-08-12T20:33:46Z] <acheam> I thought you said openoffice
[2021-08-12T20:34:22Z] <acheam> https://archive.fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/ode_haiku would be a good thing to watch for any potential porters
[2021-08-12T20:50:44Z] <GalaxyNova> hi ecs
[2021-08-12T20:50:50Z] <GalaxyNova> Guest780
[2021-08-12T20:52:31Z] <ecs> hello
[2021-08-12T20:53:54Z] <GalaxyNova> Anyone set up an imap / smpt server before?
[2021-08-12T21:00:38Z] <acheam> fancy seeing you here, ecs 
[2021-08-12T21:01:06Z] <acheam> GalaxyNova: yes many people here have before, what is your question?
[2021-08-12T21:09:26Z] <GalaxyNova> what's a good imap and  smtp server
[2021-08-12T21:21:55Z] <acheam> opensmtpd
[2021-08-12T21:22:43Z] <omanom> You can read a little about the choices made for the mailing list here: http://dilyn.cc/blog/Server-Mail
[2021-08-12T21:23:08Z] <acheam> woah dilyn.cc?
[2021-08-12T21:23:12Z] <acheam> fancy fancy fancy
[2021-08-12T21:23:55Z] <acheam> wow thanks for the credit for being the one who pestered you once a day about this. smh
[2021-08-12T21:24:48Z] <acheam> whining is a job too
[2021-08-12T21:27:57Z] <omanom> i personally use mailinabox because i'm too lazy/incompetent to learn all the individual pieces and do it "right"
[2021-08-12T21:28:26Z] <noocsharp> https://poolp.org/posts/2019-09-14/setting-up-a-mail-server-with-opensmtpd-dovecot-and-rspamd/ <-- useful
[2021-08-12T21:29:33Z] <GalaxyNova> also what do you htink about bpytop
[2021-08-12T21:30:17Z] <noocsharp> i think that you should care less about the opinions of people here and make your own judgement calls
[2021-08-12T21:31:23Z] <GalaxyNova> aha, but you see!
[2021-08-12T21:31:32Z] <GalaxyNova> I don't have any judgement calls :P
[2021-08-12T21:41:31Z] <acheam> do you like the software?
[2021-08-12T21:42:04Z] <GalaxyNova> no
[2021-08-12T21:42:26Z] <acheam> well there ya go