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[2021-06-15T00:09:25Z] <claudia> jedavies: I have now tested serious engine with assets for first/second encounter. Both start(menu) but when starting the actual game, both crash and segfault.
[2021-06-15T00:10:46Z] <jedavies> Interesting, you were doing same as the arch build file?
[2021-06-15T00:12:37Z] <claudia> In the end probably, but I made my own build file. http://ix.io/3pYS
[2021-06-15T00:13:40Z] <acheam> claudia: I put the variable scroll speed stuff into chorizo
[2021-06-15T00:13:45Z] <acheam> thanks for the rec :)
[2021-06-15T00:14:11Z] <claudia> acheam: nice!
[2021-06-15T00:14:37Z] <claudia> I am still about to try it out extensively. Haven found the muse to tinker with it.
[2021-06-15T00:14:56Z] <claudia> But this is great stuff ^^
[2021-06-15T00:20:50Z] <claudia> jedavies: Ah, and I put my the compiled binary and the single .gro file into base/Bin from my gamecopy, like mentioned in the readme. https://github.com/ptitSeb/Serious-Engine/blob/master/README.md#copy-official-game-data-optional
[2021-06-15T00:23:14Z] <jedavies> Thanks, will try out your script
[2021-06-15T00:28:20Z] <jedavies> noocsharp: mesa took 45 min to build
[2021-06-15T00:32:39Z] <kimerus> Kiss woks well with toybox?
[2021-06-15T00:59:39Z] <GalaxyNova> kimerus: There's nothing that would stop it from not working well!
[2021-06-15T00:59:54Z] <GalaxyNova> as long as it has sed -i then everything should work
[2021-06-15T01:00:12Z] <kimerus> Then why kiss had busybox has default?
[2021-06-15T01:00:31Z] <kimerus> Toybox is more lightweight
[2021-06-15T01:06:51Z] <noocsharp> jedavies: the stock package in repo/extra?
[2021-06-15T01:07:13Z] <noocsharp> that's not too bad
[2021-06-15T01:11:19Z] <jedavies> noocsharp: some changes from stock: http://0x0.st/-LU0.sh
[2021-06-15T01:12:22Z] <jedavies> Don't think I'll be building much on that machine, much quicker to cross build
[2021-06-15T01:12:31Z] <jedavies> on a quicker machine
[2021-06-15T01:17:33Z] <noocsharp> ah i see, not as good as i thought, but still reasonable for a new architecture without billions of dollars behind it
[2021-06-15T01:18:28Z] <noocsharp> actually maybe a few billion dollars, but not trillions like arm or x86
[2021-06-15T01:19:00Z] <GalaxyNova> kimerus: is toybox really more light than busybox
[2021-06-15T01:19:16Z] <GalaxyNova> busybox boasts about how goot it is for embeded hardware
[2021-06-15T01:19:20Z] <GalaxyNova> good
[2021-06-15T01:23:13Z] <kimerus> Good answer
[2021-06-15T01:23:15Z] <kimerus> D
[2021-06-15T01:24:59Z] <kimerus> I don't know if is major but i think the major of kiss users don't even use a embedded hardware
[2021-06-15T01:31:53Z] <GalaxyNova> either way if you don't like busybox it's trivially easy to fork the rootfs to use toybox
[2021-06-15T01:33:18Z] <GalaxyNova> and everything will work fine because packages don't explicitly depend on busybox
[2021-06-15T01:34:35Z] <GalaxyNova> also kimerus, you can strip down busybox to icnlude less utilities if you are really concirned about that kind of stuff
[2021-06-15T01:38:19Z] <kimerus> Yeah i know
[2021-06-15T01:38:51Z] <kimerus> I will go with sbase or similar stuff, less complicated
[2021-06-15T01:39:43Z] <Sweets> .
[2021-06-15T01:40:20Z] <Sweets> hello
[2021-06-15T01:40:21Z] <Sweets> friends
[2021-06-15T01:42:33Z] <GalaxyNova> hello
[2021-06-15T01:42:40Z] <m3g> hi
[2021-06-15T01:44:35Z] <GalaxyNova> Sweets: I didn't realize you were the one who created hummingbird init lol
[2021-06-15T01:44:41Z] <GalaxyNova> I've used it before in an LFS install
[2021-06-15T01:49:27Z] <midfavila-laptop> hey, Sweets
[2021-06-15T01:49:33Z] <midfavila-laptop> what's up?
[2021-06-15T01:53:34Z] <Sweets> GalaxyNova ye, I made hummingbird
[2021-06-15T01:53:55Z] <Sweets> midfavila- working on memory injection rn
[2021-06-15T01:54:19Z] <midfavila-laptop> Sorry - "memory injection"? In what context?
[2021-06-15T01:54:47Z] <Sweets> in the context of finding an arbitrary address in memory and making it spawn a thread that has elevated priveleges
[2021-06-15T01:54:48Z] <Sweets> macos
[2021-06-15T01:55:22Z] <midfavila-laptop> That's neat. Apart from, you know, Mac :P /s
[2021-06-15T01:55:32Z] <Sweets> macos goes hard
[2021-06-15T01:55:56Z] <midfavila-laptop> the thing that bothers me is like
[2021-06-15T01:55:57Z] <GalaxyNova> idk it's just odd that you use mac and are interested in distros like KISS
[2021-06-15T01:56:07Z] <midfavila-laptop> 1) not a fan of some of the stuff Aqua does
[2021-06-15T01:56:21Z] <midfavila-laptop> (but the titlebar along the top that integrates with the current focused program is really cool)
[2021-06-15T01:56:33Z] <noocsharp> im pretty sure aqua has been dead for like 10 years
[2021-06-15T01:56:35Z] <Sweets> GalaxyNova I mean, it is *nix
[2021-06-15T01:56:55Z] <midfavila-laptop> ...wait, isn't Aqua what the "DE" so to speak of MacOS is called?
[2021-06-15T01:57:02Z] <midfavila-laptop> I swear to god it is.
[2021-06-15T01:57:24Z] <GalaxyNova> Sweets: it's very different from KISS or Linux in general
[2021-06-15T01:57:26Z] <Sweets> that and I've always been interested in kiss, even before dylan made it
[2021-06-15T01:57:35Z] <midfavila-laptop> maximum hipster
[2021-06-15T01:57:41Z] <Sweets> dylan and I were talking about making distros before he made it lol
[2021-06-15T01:57:42Z] <midfavila-laptop> "I was into this thing before it even EXISTED"
[2021-06-15T01:57:55Z] <Sweets> I mean
[2021-06-15T01:57:55Z] <Sweets> yeah
[2021-06-15T01:58:05Z] <Sweets> dylan's my friend, I like watching my friends and their projects succeed
[2021-06-15T01:58:26Z] <Sweets> hence I support it a lot too :)
[2021-06-15T01:59:14Z] <midfavila-laptop> unrelated, but on the topic of macos guis - platinum is super aesthetic
[2021-06-15T01:59:40Z] <Sweets> anyways, GalaxyNova, idk, it is pretty different, but you go deep enough past the userspace and eventually it's all just some weird purgatory of pain and memory addresses
[2021-06-15T01:59:52Z] <Sweets> plus most unix like systems work just about the same
[2021-06-15T02:00:08Z] <midfavila-laptop> something something "I know this..!"
[2021-06-15T02:00:40Z] <Sweets> macos gui isn't bad. macos really succeeds in GUIs
[2021-06-15T02:00:52Z] <midfavila-laptop> that's one thing I can't not give apple
[2021-06-15T02:01:00Z] <midfavila-laptop> they clearly put a lot of effort into look and feel
[2021-06-15T02:01:04Z] <midfavila-laptop> very polished
[2021-06-15T02:01:15Z] <midfavila-laptop> just... not polished in a way that I personally like. kek
[2021-06-15T02:01:15Z] <noocsharp> have you seen https://annoying.technology ?
[2021-06-15T02:01:24Z] <Sweets> most everything they do is polished, part of why I prefer macos to linux
[2021-06-15T02:01:26Z] <noocsharp> it's a bunch of counter-examples
[2021-06-15T02:01:28Z] <acheam> yes but its for $$ not for the customers sake directly
[2021-06-15T02:01:31Z] <Sweets> poettering is ruining the linux userspace
[2021-06-15T02:01:35Z] <Sweets> along with freedesktop
[2021-06-15T02:01:44Z] <acheam> what's wrong with freedesktop?
[2021-06-15T02:01:54Z] <Sweets> freedesktop, GNU, suckless, poettering, they're what's wrong with linux
[2021-06-15T02:01:54Z] <acheam> xorg, xdg base dirs, etc etc?
[2021-06-15T02:02:10Z] <Sweets> acheam: X, Wayland, xdg, systemd, the list goes on
[2021-06-15T02:02:12Z] <acheam> without GNU thered be no modern desktop linux the way we know it
[2021-06-15T02:02:18Z] <midfavila-laptop> don't tell me you're one of those "fragmentation is why Linux failed" people
[2021-06-15T02:02:29Z] <Sweets> I'm not saying GNU isn't without credit
[2021-06-15T02:02:34Z] <Sweets> doesn't mean I like them though
[2021-06-15T02:02:36Z] <Sweets> and no
[2021-06-15T02:02:37Z] <Sweets> I'm not
[2021-06-15T02:02:38Z] <acheam> Sweets: so youre just suggesting abandon display servers?
[2021-06-15T02:02:45Z] <acheam> what's the actual issue with freedesktop
[2021-06-15T02:02:55Z] <Sweets> I'm suggesting that X11 is old and Wayland isn't the solution
[2021-06-15T02:03:00Z] <midfavila-laptop> i mean,  I kinda get the FDesktop issues
[2021-06-15T02:03:09Z] <acheam> okay, but its a novel approach
[2021-06-15T02:03:09Z] <Sweets> freedesktop as an organization is horrid, especially when it comes to documentation
[2021-06-15T02:03:10Z] <midfavila-laptop> they just arbitrarily establish "standards"
[2021-06-15T02:03:16Z] <Sweets> ^
[2021-06-15T02:03:22Z] <midfavila-laptop> that - honestly - kind of suck
[2021-06-15T02:03:25Z] <acheam> someone's gotta do it
[2021-06-15T02:03:32Z] <acheam> not like ISO or ANSI will
[2021-06-15T02:03:42Z] <midfavila-laptop> yeah, well, that's why there's the ICCCM and EWMH and whatnot...
[2021-06-15T02:03:58Z] <Sweets> ICCCM and EWMH are both bad solutions to arbitrary problems
[2021-06-15T02:04:06Z] <Sweets> ewmh in particular is horrid
[2021-06-15T02:04:06Z] <midfavila-laptop> i'm not saying they're *good*
[2021-06-15T02:04:21Z] <midfavila-laptop> just that they're less awful than most of what FD and XDG pull
[2021-06-15T02:04:22Z] <acheam> you really want to go through ICCCM to decide where desktop icons should be in the file hierarchy?
[2021-06-15T02:04:30Z] <midfavila-laptop> i mean
[2021-06-15T02:04:37Z] <midfavila-laptop> /usr/share/pixmaps or w/e
[2021-06-15T02:04:40Z] <midfavila-laptop> it already exists
[2021-06-15T02:05:24Z] <midfavila-laptop> i feel like the problem with linux isn't that there are too many or not enough standards
[2021-06-15T02:05:30Z] <Sweets> fonts also
[2021-06-15T02:05:31Z] <midfavila-laptop> it's that everyone thinks they know what's best for linux
[2021-06-15T02:05:35Z] <Sweets> fonts are the worst on linux
[2021-06-15T02:05:44Z] <midfavila-laptop> and they try to enforce that on everyone else, instead of building their own little walled garden
[2021-06-15T02:05:58Z] <Sweets> jokes on you, I built my own little walled garden, AND lived in it
[2021-06-15T02:06:02Z] <midfavila-laptop> i think a good example of the "walled garden" approach would be like
[2021-06-15T02:06:03Z] <midfavila-laptop> idk
[2021-06-15T02:06:04Z] <Sweets> for quite a few years
[2021-06-15T02:06:05Z] <midfavila-laptop> enlightenment
[2021-06-15T02:06:09Z] <midfavila-laptop> enlightenment is really cool
[2021-06-15T02:06:32Z] <midfavila-laptop> where they have their own infrastructure and stuff, and just kinda do their own thing and stick with it
[2021-06-15T02:06:50Z] <midfavila-laptop> instead of "innovating:tm:" every few years like GNOME or whatever
[2021-06-15T02:07:15Z] <Sweets> can we go back to gnome 2.x days
[2021-06-15T02:07:18Z] <Sweets> things were simpler
[2021-06-15T02:07:18Z] <midfavila-laptop> GNOME 1
[2021-06-15T02:07:35Z] <midfavila-laptop> Sawfish >>> Metacity
[2021-06-15T02:07:35Z] <midfavila-laptop> ...at least I think gnome 2 used metacity...
[2021-06-15T02:08:10Z] <midfavila-laptop> disclaimer, the only time I've ever used GNOME was one time when I installed Kali on a burner system
[2021-06-15T02:08:20Z] <midfavila-laptop> it was... not very good
[2021-06-15T02:08:35Z] <Sweets> I'd really have to dig it up, but throw back to when GNOME 3.x-4.x devs were trying to get rid of desktop notifications because "nobody uses them" and the devs had never "seen them be used"
[2021-06-15T02:08:48Z] <midfavila-laptop> cringe
[2021-06-15T02:09:15Z] <midfavila-laptop> they have to polish the Gnome:tm: Experience:r:
[2021-06-15T02:09:16Z] <Sweets> yeah that was a good one
[2021-06-15T02:09:36Z] <midfavila-laptop> in GNOME 500 there won't even be buttons
[2021-06-15T02:09:50Z] <midfavila-laptop> it'll just autostart your browser
[2021-06-15T02:09:59Z] <Sweets> gnome 500 won't even come for a display, you just have to imagine it
[2021-06-15T02:10:03Z] <midfavila-laptop> lmao
[2021-06-15T02:10:18Z] <midfavila-laptop> "now you can customize it all you want. fuckers."
[2021-06-15T02:10:33Z] <Sweets> no, I still have to pay for a theme on gnome-look
[2021-06-15T02:10:46Z] <midfavila-laptop> i like to stereotype gnome developers as "artistes"
[2021-06-15T02:11:09Z] <midfavila-laptop> really self-righteous fart huffers who think their post-post-modernist cubism is super deep and shit
[2021-06-15T02:11:15Z] <Sweets> they're artists in the same sense that I'm an artist for rubbing my nutsack on a foggy window and you can see the exact path I took over it
[2021-06-15T02:11:24Z] <midfavila-laptop> but Sweets
[2021-06-15T02:11:34Z] <midfavila-laptop> that's clearly a critique of the capitalist patriarchy
[2021-06-15T02:12:05Z] <midfavila-laptop> someone'll pay good money to hang that window on their wall
[2021-06-15T02:12:06Z] <Sweets> clearly.
[2021-06-15T02:12:38Z] <midfavila-laptop> i think if you *really* wanted to have a critique of modern society, you know what you do?
[2021-06-15T02:12:56Z] <midfavila-laptop> create a parody of the old statues, like The Thinker or something
[2021-06-15T02:13:00Z] <midfavila-laptop> but he's just staring at a smartphone
[2021-06-15T02:13:17Z] <midfavila-laptop> make the whole statue super bland and uninteresting and then go crazy on the smartphone details
[2021-06-15T02:13:26Z] <Sweets> nobody would see it, they're too busy doing the same thing the statue is doing
[2021-06-15T02:13:52Z] <midfavila-laptop> hmm
[2021-06-15T02:13:54Z] <midfavila-laptop> true
[2021-06-15T02:14:04Z] <midfavila-laptop> i think if I created such a statue, I'd call it "The Socialite"
[2021-06-15T02:36:02Z] <GalaxyNova> Sweets: why is GNU bad?
[2021-06-15T02:36:27Z] <GalaxyNova> I mean yeah their tools are not very standards complaint but as long as they are not part of the core system it's fine with me
[2021-06-15T04:16:13Z] <midfavila-laptop> https://github.com/decfan21/DECwindowsRedBlue
[2021-06-15T04:16:23Z] <midfavila-laptop> holy shit you guys
[2021-06-15T04:16:25Z] <midfavila-laptop> this theme is fantastic
[2021-06-15T04:21:41Z] <acheam> midfavila-laptop: Kali doesn't provide a good gnome experience
[2021-06-15T04:21:47Z] <acheam> I wouldn't judge just off of that
[2021-06-15T04:21:50Z] <midfavila-laptop> kali doesn't provide a good anything experience
[2021-06-15T04:22:02Z] <midfavila-laptop> i don't even like it for use as a pentesting toolkit
[2021-06-15T04:22:26Z] <midfavila-laptop> blackarch is unironically better in a lot of ways. includes less shit out of the box and has just as many if not more tools available
[2021-06-15T04:23:45Z] <midfavila-laptop> i know that the ebic heckers in here will probably roast me for my take but idec at this point
[2021-06-15T04:23:55Z] <testuser[m]1> Hi
[2021-06-15T04:23:58Z] <midfavila-laptop> ih
[2021-06-15T04:23:58Z] <acheam> hi
[2021-06-15T04:24:35Z] <midfavila-laptop> bleh, gonna have to rebind my caps lock to ctrl, on my laptop
[2021-06-15T04:24:44Z] <midfavila-laptop> i'm already starting to experience the effects of emacs pinky thanks to stumpwm
[2021-06-15T04:35:54Z] <testuser[m]1> dilyn: can you change this git apply to patch -p1 https://github.com/kiss-community/repo/blob/master/extra/firefox-esr/build
[2021-06-15T04:35:56Z] <testuser[m]1> For some reason when i updated it, busybox patch was having trouble applying some part of the patch, gnu patch was failing on another part. Only git apply worked
[2021-06-15T04:47:35Z] <midfavila-laptop> just added a modeline to my tiling wm config, am I cool yet
[2021-06-15T04:48:19Z] <testuser[m]1> What's a modeline
[2021-06-15T04:48:32Z] <midfavila-laptop> ever use emacs or vim or w/e?
[2021-06-15T04:48:38Z] <midfavila-laptop> it's the bit at the bottom of the display
[2021-06-15T04:48:45Z] <midfavila-laptop> tells you what file you're editing, current mode, etc
[2021-06-15T04:48:51Z] <midfavila-laptop> general info like that
[2021-06-15T04:49:15Z] <testuser[m]1> Oh
[2021-06-15T04:49:46Z] <midfavila-laptop> yeah
[2021-06-15T04:50:09Z] <GalaxyNova> oh interesintg
[2021-06-15T04:50:51Z] <testuser[m]1> What info does it show in the wm modeline
[2021-06-15T04:50:55Z] <midfavila-laptop> http://0x0.st/-L0g.png
[2021-06-15T04:51:01Z] <midfavila-laptop> just windows, time and date rn
[2021-06-15T04:51:08Z] <testuser[m]1> Nice
[2021-06-15T04:51:29Z] <midfavila-laptop> i want to extend it with info like wireless signal integrity, battery capacity, CPU, RAM and disk usage, etc
[2021-06-15T04:51:36Z] <GalaxyNova> interesting
[2021-06-15T04:51:54Z] <GalaxyNova> what window manager is that
[2021-06-15T04:51:57Z] <midfavila-laptop> stumpwm
[2021-06-15T04:52:21Z] <midfavila-laptop> i need to get around to packaging it
[2021-06-15T04:52:34Z] <midfavila-laptop> but if you want to try it out, I have the dependency (Steel Bank Common Lisp) packaged
[2021-06-15T04:52:45Z] <midfavila-laptop> ...actually, I don't know if the SDF sysops have updated the SSL cert...
[2021-06-15T04:52:53Z] <midfavila-laptop> they have not
[2021-06-15T04:53:00Z] <midfavila-laptop> cringe and reddit-pilled. get on that
[2021-06-15T04:54:20Z] <GalaxyNova> midfavila-laptop: never heard of that wm
[2021-06-15T04:54:34Z] <midfavila-laptop> it's the successor to ratpoison
[2021-06-15T04:54:38Z] <midfavila-laptop> which you might have heard
[2021-06-15T04:54:40Z] <GalaxyNova> oh yes
[2021-06-15T04:54:41Z] <midfavila-laptop> heard of*
[2021-06-15T04:54:54Z] <midfavila-laptop> yeah, the devs were apparently implementing a bunch of lisp stuff
[2021-06-15T04:54:57Z] <midfavila-laptop> so they were like
[2021-06-15T04:55:13Z] <midfavila-laptop> "why are we writing this in C and implementing all this crap when we can just write it in lisp"
[2021-06-15T04:55:17Z] <midfavila-laptop> and then they did that
[2021-06-15T04:56:03Z] <midfavila-laptop> i really need to write a script to control my laptop's backlight...
[2021-06-15T04:56:14Z] <midfavila-laptop> maybe automate changes with cron. that would be niftyy
[2021-06-15T04:56:16Z] <midfavila-laptop> nifty*
[2021-06-15T04:56:18Z] <testuser[m]1> Do it
[2021-06-15T04:56:33Z] <midfavila-laptop> i used to use a dedicated utility to manage such things
[2021-06-15T04:56:36Z] <midfavila-laptop> i think it was xbacklight
[2021-06-15T04:56:40Z] <midfavila-laptop> but then I realized "wait a sec"
[2021-06-15T04:56:46Z] <midfavila-laptop> "this is exposed via sysfs"
[2021-06-15T04:56:51Z] <GalaxyNova> i think you can just edit the values directly in /proc IIRC
[2021-06-15T04:57:07Z] <midfavila-laptop> proc might have it, but I tend to manipulate my hardware via sysfs
[2021-06-15T04:57:24Z] <midfavila-laptop> so like, my modem initialization script does a bunch of black magic via sysfs, for example
[2021-06-15T04:57:27Z] <schillingklaus> is sysfs a systemd thing?
[2021-06-15T04:57:30Z] <midfavila-laptop> no
[2021-06-15T04:57:40Z] <midfavila-laptop> it's a virtual filesystem that's part of linux
[2021-06-15T04:57:54Z] <midfavila-laptop> i recommend you read about the filesystem if you're not familiar with it
[2021-06-15T04:57:58Z] <GalaxyNova> midfavila-laptop: is that laptop on KISS linux
[2021-06-15T04:58:10Z] <midfavila-laptop> yes
[2021-06-15T04:58:15Z] <midfavila-laptop> all of my machines run KISS
[2021-06-15T04:58:18Z] <midfavila-laptop> except for my media center
[2021-06-15T04:58:44Z] <acheam> midfavila-laptop: why is your ps1 that?
[2021-06-15T04:58:51Z] <midfavila-laptop> do>: ?
[2021-06-15T04:59:16Z] <GalaxyNova> acheam: i thinks it's some kind of interpreter that he's running
[2021-06-15T04:59:24Z] <midfavila-laptop> yeah, it's called "sh"
[2021-06-15T04:59:25Z] <midfavila-laptop> :P 
[2021-06-15T04:59:28Z] <acheam> lol
[2021-06-15T04:59:29Z] <midfavila-laptop> you might have heard of it
[2021-06-15T04:59:31Z] <GalaxyNova> lol
[2021-06-15T04:59:34Z] <acheam> but why that prompt?
[2021-06-15T04:59:48Z] <midfavila-laptop> because I don't need a prompt to do anything other than prompt me
[2021-06-15T04:59:52Z] <midfavila-laptop> at least on my laptop
[2021-06-15T05:00:08Z] <midfavila-laptop> my desktop runs yash for an interactive shell, so it's a bit more featureful
[2021-06-15T05:00:18Z] <midfavila-laptop> but I try to keep my laptop super lean
[2021-06-15T05:00:21Z] <midfavila-laptop> so it just runs ksh
[2021-06-15T05:00:23Z] <midfavila-laptop> oksh*
[2021-06-15T05:01:18Z] <schillingklaus> my ps1 is "$ "
[2021-06-15T05:01:43Z] <GalaxyNova> I just use the normal baselayout PS1
[2021-06-15T05:02:02Z] <GalaxyNova> and just use ash
[2021-06-15T05:02:07Z] <midfavila-laptop> busybox gives me cancer
[2021-06-15T05:02:14Z] <GalaxyNova> why
[2021-06-15T05:02:22Z] <midfavila-laptop> i dislike *box style executables
[2021-06-15T05:02:32Z] <midfavila-laptop> and busybox has a lot of extraneous features, besides
[2021-06-15T05:02:47Z] <midfavila-laptop> like colorization and columnization on directory listings, for example
[2021-06-15T05:02:53Z] <midfavila-laptop> completely superfluous
[2021-06-15T05:03:03Z] <midfavila-laptop> the latter doubly so, considering col is literally a thing
[2021-06-15T05:03:04Z] <GalaxyNova> if you don't like the features you can always disable them when compilling busybox
[2021-06-15T05:03:12Z] <midfavila-laptop> or I can just use a better userland
[2021-06-15T05:03:17Z] <GalaxyNova> like?
[2021-06-15T05:03:21Z] <midfavila-laptop> suckless core
[2021-06-15T05:03:35Z] <GalaxyNova> suckless core has less utilities
[2021-06-15T05:03:47Z] <midfavila-laptop> and yet it's more useful
[2021-06-15T05:03:53Z] <midfavila-laptop> because it has everything I need and nothing I don't
[2021-06-15T05:03:54Z] <midfavila-laptop> :P 
[2021-06-15T05:04:09Z] <midfavila-laptop> plus, I can build each executable standalone, and statically link them
[2021-06-15T05:04:20Z] <schillingklaus> i dislike colourization
[2021-06-15T05:04:32Z] <midfavila-laptop> and if I want to modify a given utility, the suckless code is much simpler and easier to understand
[2021-06-15T05:04:43Z] <midfavila-laptop> meaning it's better for studying, as well
[2021-06-15T05:04:46Z] <GalaxyNova> schillingklaus: so you run `ls --color=never`??
[2021-06-15T05:05:01Z] <midfavila-laptop> >long options
[2021-06-15T05:05:02Z] <midfavila-laptop> blech
[2021-06-15T05:05:08Z] <GalaxyNova> lol
[2021-06-15T05:05:13Z] <GalaxyNova> long options are bloat
[2021-06-15T05:05:18Z] <midfavila-laptop> i mean
[2021-06-15T05:05:21Z] <midfavila-laptop> unironically yes
[2021-06-15T05:05:24Z] <GalaxyNova> return to '/' flags
[2021-06-15T05:05:29Z] <midfavila-laptop> go back to NT
[2021-06-15T05:05:41Z] <midfavila-laptop> we don't want your kind around here, MCSE
[2021-06-15T05:05:46Z] <GalaxyNova> lol
[2021-06-15T05:05:48Z] <schillingklaus> it suffices to adjust /etc/prtofile to refrain from using ls with colours
[2021-06-15T05:06:06Z] <GalaxyNova> I'm a very visual person so I like having colors
[2021-06-15T05:06:16Z] <GalaxyNova> otherwise everything looks the same
[2021-06-15T05:06:21Z] <midfavila-laptop> color is nice when it's consistent and uniform
[2021-06-15T05:06:33Z] <midfavila-laptop> the problem is that most terminals aren't color, and if they are, they're not consistent
[2021-06-15T05:06:36Z] <GalaxyNova> I use dracula so literally everything I use has the same theme
[2021-06-15T05:06:37Z] <midfavila-laptop> well
[2021-06-15T05:06:40Z] <midfavila-laptop> terminal programs
[2021-06-15T05:07:08Z] <GalaxyNova> just change the ~/.Xresources file?
[2021-06-15T05:07:18Z] <GalaxyNova> or change the config values if you use ST?
[2021-06-15T05:07:24Z] <midfavila-laptop> sorry - I should have been less ambiguous
[2021-06-15T05:07:53Z] <midfavila-laptop> userspace tools that run in text mode - ls, cd, mv, etc - don't tend to be colorized, and if they are, they aren't consistent
[2021-06-15T05:08:16Z] <GalaxyNova> ah
[2021-06-15T05:08:18Z] <GalaxyNova> well
[2021-06-15T05:08:22Z] <schillingklaus>  dracula sucks
[2021-06-15T05:08:35Z] <midfavila-laptop> it's a color scheme
[2021-06-15T05:08:37Z] <GalaxyNova> dracula is the only theme that I can apply everywhere easily
[2021-06-15T05:08:42Z] <midfavila-laptop> literally doesn't matter as long as people like it
[2021-06-15T05:08:57Z] <midfavila-laptop> personally, if I could, I'd slap an acme-style theme on all my programs
[2021-06-15T05:09:05Z] <midfavila-laptop> but I can't, so everything is grey instead
[2021-06-15T05:09:34Z] <GalaxyNova> I don't even use non terminal programs besides qutebrowser
[2021-06-15T05:09:48Z] <GalaxyNova> and qemu if you count that
[2021-06-15T05:09:52Z] <midfavila-laptop> >they don't use a text-mode browser
[2021-06-15T05:09:54Z] <midfavila-laptop> shame
[2021-06-15T05:09:58Z] <midfavila-laptop> and qemu can run in the terminal
[2021-06-15T05:10:02Z] <midfavila-laptop> so meh
[2021-06-15T05:10:04Z] <GalaxyNova> haha
[2021-06-15T05:10:13Z] <GalaxyNova> if u want graphics it can't
[2021-06-15T05:10:19Z] <midfavila-laptop> i believe it can
[2021-06-15T05:10:27Z] <testuser[m]1> Wat
[2021-06-15T05:10:29Z] <midfavila-laptop> since its graphical stack is based on sdl, right?
[2021-06-15T05:10:36Z] <midfavila-laptop> and sdl has a framebuffer backend if I recall
[2021-06-15T05:10:41Z] <GalaxyNova> i think it's only for the tty
[2021-06-15T05:10:45Z] <midfavila-laptop> well yes
[2021-06-15T05:10:53Z] <midfavila-laptop> but that's *true* text mode :P 
[2021-06-15T05:11:24Z] <GalaxyNova> but ye the only thing I ever need to theme is my terminal and maybe neovim
[2021-06-15T05:11:29Z] <GalaxyNova> then everything looks decently consistent
[2021-06-15T05:11:46Z] <midfavila-laptop> nothing beats GEM gray
[2021-06-15T05:11:52Z] <GalaxyNova> since I use a terminal IRC client
[2021-06-15T05:12:08Z] <GalaxyNova> weechat is the best
[2021-06-15T05:12:24Z] <midfavila-laptop> somewhat amusingly the only program I use that isn't text mode compatible is my IM client
[2021-06-15T05:12:32Z] <midfavila-laptop> but I do keep a text-mode client around
[2021-06-15T05:12:34Z] <midfavila-laptop> epic5
[2021-06-15T05:12:46Z] <GalaxyNova> try weechat
[2021-06-15T05:12:50Z] <GalaxyNova> it's great
[2021-06-15T05:12:51Z] <midfavila-laptop> i'm good
[2021-06-15T05:13:07Z] <GalaxyNova> best IRC client by far
[2021-06-15T05:13:09Z] <midfavila-laptop> epic5 is efficient, fast and has a massively flexible scripting language
[2021-06-15T05:13:20Z] <midfavila-laptop> not to mention it has a lineage of almost thirty years, so it's rock-solid
[2021-06-15T05:14:27Z] <GalaxyNova> What turns me off about lots of GUI programs is a bunch of dependencies on GUI toolkits
[2021-06-15T05:14:47Z] <midfavila-laptop> that's why I only use GTK2 stuff
[2021-06-15T05:14:52Z] <midfavila-laptop> and maybe Xaw
[2021-06-15T05:14:56Z] <GalaxyNova> then you install a few GUI programs and soon you have 3 versions of QT and 20 versions of GTK
[2021-06-15T05:15:17Z] <midfavila-laptop> that just means you aren't committing to a single stack hard enough
[2021-06-15T05:15:26Z] <midfavila-laptop> you might want to watch out for STLWRT
[2021-06-15T05:15:36Z] <midfavila-laptop> it's a fork of gtk2 that attempts to unify GTK2/3/4
[2021-06-15T05:16:30Z] <GalaxyNova> maybe
[2021-06-15T05:16:48Z] <schillingklaus> qutebrowser is a qt thing
[2021-06-15T05:16:54Z] <GalaxyNova> yeah
[2021-06-15T05:16:57Z] <midfavila-laptop> wow, no way
[2021-06-15T05:17:05Z] <midfavila-laptop> next thing I know you'll tell me that xterm is an x thing
[2021-06-15T05:17:05Z] <GalaxyNova> but what's the alternative
[2021-06-15T05:17:12Z] <midfavila-laptop> literally any other webkit browser
[2021-06-15T05:17:12Z] <GalaxyNova> suckless surf always crashes and it's slow
[2021-06-15T05:17:34Z] <midfavila-laptop> may I suggest: pale meme
[2021-06-15T05:17:34Z] <GalaxyNova> webkit is slow and I've never had a good experience with it
[2021-06-15T05:17:38Z] <midfavila-laptop> webkit is ass, yes
[2021-06-15T05:18:04Z] <GalaxyNova> also there's the appeal of controling everything using vim keybindings
[2021-06-15T05:18:14Z] <midfavila-laptop> use vimperator
[2021-06-15T05:18:31Z] <GalaxyNova> not the same thing
[2021-06-15T05:18:35Z] <schillingklaus> vimperator is ruined by firefox quantum
[2021-06-15T05:18:45Z] <midfavila-laptop> pale moon still supports it
[2021-06-15T05:18:54Z] <midfavila-laptop> ultimately if you prefer qutebrowser that's up to you
[2021-06-15T05:18:58Z] <midfavila-laptop> there's luakit or whatever
[2021-06-15T05:19:05Z] <midfavila-laptop> which also has le ebic meme bindings
[2021-06-15T05:19:40Z] <GalaxyNova> I'll give it a try
[2021-06-15T05:19:59Z] <midfavila-laptop> maybe one day you'll embrace links
[2021-06-15T05:20:00Z] <GalaxyNova> the website gives off strong 2000s vibes lol
[2021-06-15T05:20:25Z] <schillingklaus> luakit crashes a lot, as all gtk webkit2 browsers
[2021-06-15T05:20:41Z] <midfavila-laptop> i find that the only sites that links can't handle are those with mandatory JS
[2021-06-15T05:20:48Z] <acheam> I find ls colors to be super nice
[2021-06-15T05:20:54Z] <GalaxyNova> come on
[2021-06-15T05:20:55Z] <midfavila-laptop> but any site with mandatory JS probably isn't worth visiting...
[2021-06-15T05:20:59Z] <GalaxyNova> using links in 2021 is impossible
[2021-06-15T05:21:00Z] <acheam> quickly differentiate between folders, links, dirs, etx
[2021-06-15T05:21:11Z] <midfavila-laptop> i daily it on both my machines GalaxyNova
[2021-06-15T05:21:14Z] <acheam> even broken/working symlinks
[2021-06-15T05:21:14Z] <testuser[m]1> its possible
[2021-06-15T05:21:15Z] <midfavila-laptop> like it's my main browser
[2021-06-15T05:21:31Z] <midfavila-laptop> i actually prefer it to using pale moon
[2021-06-15T05:21:35Z] <midfavila-laptop> since it integrates super nicely
[2021-06-15T05:22:01Z] <acheam> I wish I was like 95 so I had an excuse to not use the web
[2021-06-15T05:22:02Z] <GalaxyNova> midfavila-laptop: good luck watching youtube in it, listening to spotify, editing documents in google docs, searching things on google maps, watching netflix, etc etc etc
[2021-06-15T05:22:23Z] <GalaxyNova> all things I do on a daily basis
[2021-06-15T05:22:26Z] <midfavila-laptop> i watch invidious without a single problem by piping video to ffplay, spotify is for literal children. you should download your music
[2021-06-15T05:22:32Z] <acheam> GalaxyNova: youre not going to come to a pretty conclusion to this fight
[2021-06-15T05:22:41Z] <midfavila-laptop> download your docs and edit them locally instead of relying on shitty glowie services
[2021-06-15T05:22:49Z] <acheam> ^
[2021-06-15T05:22:50Z] <schillingklaus> i simply boycott youtube, google dox, maps, netflix,...
[2021-06-15T05:22:50Z] <midfavila-laptop> use a decentralized map service if you must
[2021-06-15T05:22:56Z] <midfavila-laptop> netflix is cringe and shit
[2021-06-15T05:22:58Z] <midfavila-laptop> just stop
[2021-06-15T05:22:58Z] <GalaxyNova> i need google docs for school
[2021-06-15T05:23:07Z] <midfavila-laptop> uh huh
[2021-06-15T05:23:08Z] <acheam> I copy and paste into google docs for school
[2021-06-15T05:23:12Z] <testuser[m]1> bruh all those things are garbage
[2021-06-15T05:23:15Z] <GalaxyNova> isn't downloading music illegal also haha
[2021-06-15T05:23:22Z] <acheam> who tf cares
[2021-06-15T05:23:23Z] <midfavila-laptop> >being constrained by The Man
[2021-06-15T05:23:30Z] <acheam> I'm not calling the cops on you
[2021-06-15T05:23:31Z] <midfavila-laptop> s
[2021-06-15T05:23:31Z] <midfavila-laptop> m
[2021-06-15T05:23:32Z] <midfavila-laptop> h
[2021-06-15T05:23:49Z] <GalaxyNova> schillingklaus: and move to the mountains and become a monk
[2021-06-15T05:23:50Z] <acheam> you should care more about hurting the artist
[2021-06-15T05:23:54Z] <midfavila-laptop> ^
[2021-06-15T05:23:58Z] <acheam> so instead of buying Spotify, buy some band merch
[2021-06-15T05:24:09Z] <GalaxyNova> buy KISS linux merch
[2021-06-15T05:24:09Z] <midfavila-laptop> if I were to pay for music I would get it off bandcamp
[2021-06-15T05:24:18Z] <midfavila-laptop> since afaik the artist gets most of the cut
[2021-06-15T05:24:28Z] <acheam> ye
[2021-06-15T05:24:30Z] <midfavila-laptop> but yeah 
[2021-06-15T05:24:34Z] <midfavila-laptop> streaming services are both a)
[2021-06-15T05:24:35Z] <acheam> still proprietary though
[2021-06-15T05:24:36Z] <midfavila-laptop> complexing
[2021-06-15T05:24:42Z] <midfavila-laptop> and b) infuriating
[2021-06-15T05:24:47Z] <midfavila-laptop> >complexing
[2021-06-15T05:24:48Z] <GalaxyNova> as if taylor swift will come crying that I didn't give her 5 dollars on an albul lmao
[2021-06-15T05:24:48Z] <midfavila-laptop> i can't spell
[2021-06-15T05:25:01Z] <midfavila-laptop> i meant "perplexing"
[2021-06-15T05:25:02Z] <acheam> I dont care that much about streaming, I care about DRM
[2021-06-15T05:25:07Z] <GalaxyNova> yeah
[2021-06-15T05:25:08Z] <GalaxyNova> the DRM sucks
[2021-06-15T05:25:09Z] <midfavila-laptop> DRM is also hideous
[2021-06-15T05:25:13Z] <GalaxyNova> it doesn't even work on musl
[2021-06-15T05:25:13Z] <midfavila-laptop> which is why I don't pay for music
[2021-06-15T05:25:23Z] <acheam> Netflix should just be a list of links I can play in MPV or whatever media player
[2021-06-15T05:25:30Z] <midfavila-laptop> if you use DRM then I'm going to pirate your shit purely out of spite
[2021-06-15T05:26:07Z] <midfavila-laptop> man
[2021-06-15T05:26:12Z] <acheam> on the topic of pukeworthy software
[2021-06-15T05:26:14Z] <midfavila-laptop> why do people use streaming services
[2021-06-15T05:26:17Z] <midfavila-laptop> legit question
[2021-06-15T05:26:22Z] <acheam> does zoom work in a glibc chroot?
[2021-06-15T05:26:28Z] <GalaxyNova> ew
[2021-06-15T05:26:29Z] * midfavila-laptop inhales
[2021-06-15T05:26:31Z] <acheam> midfavila-laptop: convenience
[2021-06-15T05:26:31Z] <schillingklaus> warner brothers and viagracom use DRM
[2021-06-15T05:26:38Z] <midfavila-laptop> acheam but they're the opposite of convenience...
[2021-06-15T05:26:39Z] <GalaxyNova> i woudn't let that shit near my computer
[2021-06-15T05:26:42Z] <GalaxyNova> use a virtual machine
[2021-06-15T05:27:02Z] <acheam> ive never had luck passing mic/camera through to a vm
[2021-06-15T05:27:03Z] <midfavila-laptop> you need internet access at all times, you have to use their shitty client software, you can't find more obscure tracks, it's expensive, etc etc etc
[2021-06-15T05:27:06Z] <acheam> and ive tried hard
[2021-06-15T05:27:19Z] <acheam> both qemu and virtualbox
[2021-06-15T05:27:22Z] <midfavila-laptop> whereas I can just download a rip of the track from invidious onto my local machine and call it a day
[2021-06-15T05:27:35Z] <GalaxyNova> "how hard could it be"
[2021-06-15T05:27:38Z] <acheam> virtualbox I got video, no sound, although with the proprietary extensions
[2021-06-15T05:27:58Z] <midfavila-laptop> i used to use virtualbox
[2021-06-15T05:28:01Z] <acheam> qemu I got nothing
[2021-06-15T05:28:01Z] <GalaxyNova> same
[2021-06-15T05:28:03Z] <midfavila-laptop> then I installed QEMU
[2021-06-15T05:28:05Z] <midfavila-laptop> and was like
[2021-06-15T05:28:07Z] <GalaxyNova> qemu is what i use
[2021-06-15T05:28:10Z] <acheam> qemu is nice
[2021-06-15T05:28:11Z] <midfavila-laptop> "holy fucking shit this is so much better"
[2021-06-15T05:28:14Z] <acheam> its my usual
[2021-06-15T05:28:26Z] <midfavila-laptop> i need to set my VMs back up, actually...
[2021-06-15T05:28:30Z] <midfavila-laptop> i want to tinker with P9 again
[2021-06-15T05:28:43Z] <midfavila-laptop> it would also be nice to see if mothra can render my site
[2021-06-15T05:28:43Z] <GalaxyNova> I coudn't install Plan9
[2021-06-15T05:28:50Z] <acheam> install it on bare metal, noob
[2021-06-15T05:28:55Z] <GalaxyNova> ok
[2021-06-15T05:28:56Z] <GalaxyNova> brb
[2021-06-15T05:29:02Z] * GalaxyNova 's computer exploded
[2021-06-15T05:29:05Z] * acheam uninstalls KISS
[2021-06-15T05:29:05Z] <midfavila-laptop> my machine is a little more complex than a 386DX acheam
[2021-06-15T05:29:11Z] <acheam> bare. metal.
[2021-06-15T05:29:24Z] <midfavila-laptop> get me an old machine and not only will I install it, I'll daily it
[2021-06-15T05:29:26Z] <acheam> if it takes buying a 386, so be it
[2021-06-15T05:29:38Z] <midfavila-laptop> i have zero issues working on older hardware
[2021-06-15T05:29:57Z] <schillingklaus> plan9 is probably only suited for mouse fetishists
[2021-06-15T05:30:26Z] <GalaxyNova> it felt clunky when I tried it
[2021-06-15T05:30:29Z] <GalaxyNova> :/
[2021-06-15T05:30:35Z] <midfavila-laptop> you know, if you haven't looked into it, you should probably keep your piece, klaus
[2021-06-15T05:30:47Z] <GalaxyNova> I might give it another try but eh
[2021-06-15T05:31:04Z] <midfavila-laptop> rio might be idiosyncratic, but it's very snappy, and the more important aspect of P9 is oP2000 and its network capabilities
[2021-06-15T05:32:45Z] <acheam> ah you know youre home when the website is touting using PNGs as a feature of the site
[2021-06-15T05:33:05Z] <midfavila-laptop> >not TIFF and BMP
[2021-06-15T05:33:48Z] <acheam> wait, you dont base64 your bitmaps and put them in a p tag?
[2021-06-15T05:34:11Z] <midfavila-laptop> "why would i encrypt my bitmap"
[2021-06-15T05:34:26Z] <acheam> make sure to put the sha256 in a h1 below it
[2021-06-15T05:34:40Z] <midfavila-laptop> even more secure than XOR
[2021-06-15T05:34:58Z] <acheam> midfavila-laptop: because the government has all the TLS private keys
[2021-06-15T05:35:18Z] <acheam> Need that extra layer
[2021-06-15T05:35:23Z] <midfavila-laptop> you can't decrypt traffic to and fro my site if it was never encrypted in the first place
[2021-06-15T05:35:26Z] <midfavila-laptop> take that, NSA
[2021-06-15T05:35:42Z] <acheam> the encryption is in the fact it isnt encryption
[2021-06-15T05:35:48Z] <acheam> you'll leave them stunned for days
[2021-06-15T05:35:57Z] <midfavila-laptop> ye boi
[2021-06-15T05:39:28Z] <midfavila-laptop> fuck, it's already almost 0300
[2021-06-15T05:39:37Z] <midfavila-laptop> i need to do the temporary die
[2021-06-15T05:43:01Z] <testuser[m]1> acheam: http://45.76.83.244:8000/ idk if it'll work though since i might've built it with native flags, only switched to generic flags few days back
[2021-06-15T05:43:04Z] <testuser[m]1> sha256 fb4d9934eda8213e2bbe05d17e9a9006c0b0d67282449516430e2773c71d3226
[2021-06-15T05:43:40Z] <acheam> thank you!
[2021-06-15T05:43:59Z] <acheam> am on phone right now, OK if I grab it in 10 hrs or so?
[2021-06-15T05:44:12Z] <testuser[m]1> Unless my server burns down you should be ok
[2021-06-15T05:44:19Z] <acheam> also what happened to duckdns
[2021-06-15T05:44:39Z] <testuser[m]1> im trying out python http.server
[2021-06-15T05:44:53Z] <acheam> YOURE DOING WHAT
[2021-06-15T05:44:57Z] <acheam>  /s
[2021-06-15T05:45:11Z] <acheam> that shouldn't stop you from using duckdns though right?
[2021-06-15T05:45:16Z] <testuser[m]1> yeah
[2021-06-15T05:45:24Z] <testuser[m]1> I'll look into it
[2021-06-15T05:46:05Z] <testuser[m]1> oh you can access it via my duckdns domains too
[2021-06-15T06:07:22Z] <testuser[m]1> why does `sed 's/oldver/newver/g' version source -i; kiss c; gh pr create` feel so productive
[2021-06-15T11:42:06Z] <riteo> I fell asleep with my pc on
[2021-06-15T11:42:08Z] <riteo> truly epic
[2021-06-15T12:38:13Z] <omanom> testuser[m]1 yess.. yessss.... come to the dark side of python lol
[2021-06-15T12:38:44Z] <testuser[m]1> im on it already
[2021-06-15T12:38:49Z] <testuser[m]1> :p
[2021-06-15T14:29:10Z] <kimerus> Hi guys
[2021-06-15T14:29:15Z] <riteo> hi!
[2021-06-15T14:29:37Z] <kimerus> Someone knows a good wiki or man page to busybox crond? I need to set trim to my ssd
[2021-06-15T14:30:28Z] <acheam> should be standard POSIX cron
[2021-06-15T14:30:48Z] <acheam> just start the service, and throw things in your crontab
[2021-06-15T14:31:12Z] <omanom> https://git.busybox.net/busybox/tree/miscutils/crond.c
[2021-06-15T14:31:47Z] <omanom> there's info about configuration and usage in the file itself
[2021-06-15T14:32:19Z] <acheam> huh there's a lot of interesting stuff there
[2021-06-15T14:32:28Z] <acheam> run as root, not setuid root
[2021-06-15T14:32:35Z] <acheam> and its written by the dragonfly BSD guy
[2021-06-15T14:32:48Z] <acheam> midfavila: love busybox now, or what
[2021-06-15T14:40:58Z] <rio6> all we need now is busybox bootloader and busybox kernel
[2021-06-15T14:47:43Z] <riteo> systemb
[2021-06-15T15:31:49Z] <omanom> freenode switched to inspircd
[2021-06-15T15:33:58Z] <omanom> https://www.devever.net/~hl/freenode_suicide it gets crazier and crazier
[2021-06-15T15:34:18Z] <micr0> is it only zr that has ability to give cloak?
[2021-06-15T15:34:27Z] <micr0> I think we are in exact opposite timezones
[2021-06-15T15:36:34Z] <omanom> if you just want user cloak you go to... #liberacloak i think? and there's a bot that hands them out
[2021-06-15T15:37:04Z] <omanom> for kiss-specific cloak yeah i think its just them right now
[2021-06-15T15:38:22Z] <omanom> ah its #libera-cloak and you say !cloakme for the bot to hit you up
[2021-06-15T15:44:37Z] <riteo> midfavila: I stumbled on the final solution to HDMI while surfing the web
[2021-06-15T15:45:08Z] <riteo> behold: http://0x0.st/-LkD.jpg
[2021-06-15T15:46:43Z] <micr0> @omanom cool, this is good in the interim, thank you
[2021-06-15T15:51:08Z] <rio6> seems like all that is left of freenode is the name
[2021-06-15T15:51:19Z] <rio6> why is what lee bought originally so :P
[2021-06-15T15:51:22Z] <rio6> *which IS
[2021-06-15T15:51:56Z] <rio6> he coul've start a new network using freenode.net and get the same thing as now
[2021-06-15T15:52:03Z] <rio6> wow I can't type
[2021-06-15T16:06:07Z] <dilyn> git-bruh: can do, thanks for the notice. 
[2021-06-15T16:06:15Z] <dilyn> looks like it doesn't even need the rust patch...
[2021-06-15T16:08:02Z] <dilyn> ...and as with all things, i hath spake 2 soon: ` 1:33.13 error[E0432]: unresolved import `crate::arch::x86_64::__m64``
[2021-06-15T16:13:42Z] <acheam> micr0: I thought you were in the US?
[2021-06-15T16:15:02Z] <acheam> also dilyn should have the perms to do it, just might not know how to
[2021-06-15T16:15:55Z] <dilyn> i know nothing of the mystical might of IRC
[2021-06-15T16:23:18Z] <omanom> should the chorizo depends file be named "depends" instead of "dep"?
[2021-06-15T16:25:02Z] <dilyn> ...yes...
[2021-06-15T16:26:52Z] <micr0> acheam yep, EST mostly 
[2021-06-15T16:55:12Z] <dilyn> can we be lazy and just disable rust simd
[2021-06-15T16:56:54Z] <testuser[m]1> It results nin a huge slowdown i think
[2021-06-15T16:57:00Z] <testuser[m]1> Read somewhere on a bug tacker
[2021-06-15T16:57:11Z] <testuser[m]1> I think the arch one
[2021-06-15T17:01:27Z] <kimerus> Someone used the git-bruh steam and brawp script?
[2021-06-15T17:06:33Z] <claudia> \o/
[2021-06-15T17:07:33Z] <testuser[m]1> Hi claudia
[2021-06-15T17:11:08Z] <dilyn> o/
[2021-06-15T17:20:46Z] <ang> \o
[2021-06-15T17:22:19Z] <acheam> dilyn: omanom um	
[2021-06-15T17:22:22Z] <acheam> im an idiot
[2021-06-15T17:22:38Z] <acheam> i rename the file for testing on my arch machine
[2021-06-15T17:22:43Z] <acheam> and forgot to rename it back
[2021-06-15T17:23:08Z] <dilyn> It's okay I suffer from temporary blindless and intermittent illiteracy 
[2021-06-15T17:24:54Z] <acheam> dilyn: https://l.armaanb.net/0001-chorizo-rename-depends.patch
[2021-06-15T17:25:10Z] <acheam> by the end of the day this shalt not be an issue
[2021-06-15T17:25:17Z] <acheam> there will be no more arch on this laptop
[2021-06-15T17:28:26Z] <dilyn> one of us, one of us...
[2021-06-15T17:30:50Z] <dilyn> applied tyty
[2021-06-15T17:31:07Z] <dilyn> alright I think I fixed up the patch. I could theoretically make it smaller, but eeeeehhhhh
[2021-06-15T17:39:21Z] <testuser[m]1> acheam did it work
[2021-06-15T17:53:14Z] <claudia> dilyn: Didnt you update firefox-esr because of the patch? My apologies then, I reminded you because I thought you might have overseen it because none of our tools was recognizing its outdateness.
[2021-06-15T18:00:35Z] <dilyn> i updated it because of your ping and then I was informed that it was using git apply instead of patch -p1 < 
[2021-06-15T18:00:37Z] <dilyn> so I fixed that
[2021-06-15T18:06:11Z] <acheam> testuser[m]1: i've downloaded it, will test it later
[2021-06-15T18:43:43Z] <midfavila> acheam i will never tolerate busybox
[2021-06-15T18:44:12Z] <midfavila> even if dBSD is involved
[2021-06-15T19:49:53Z] <kiedtl> rip freenode
[2021-06-15T19:50:09Z] <kiedtl> and rip #kisslinux there. it's been more than two years
[2021-06-15T20:09:54Z] <riteo> kiedtl: remember, the community isn't where it is, it's the people that make it
[2021-06-15T20:10:07Z] <riteo> #kisslinux never moved anywhere, it's still itself
[2021-06-15T20:19:15Z] <dilyn> KISS is dead, long live KISS
[2021-06-15T20:32:53Z] <GalaxyNova> I really don't get what the new owners are trying to achieve
[2021-06-15T20:33:32Z] <GalaxyNova> they spent so much money only to then proceed to completely destroy the very thing they bought?
[2021-06-15T20:34:20Z] <GalaxyNova> If they really didn't like how freenode was doing things and felt the need to completely rebuilt the platform why not just create a new network instead of destroyign an existing one
[2021-06-15T20:34:36Z] <GalaxyNova> makes no sense to me :/
[2021-06-15T20:48:23Z] <kiedtl> riteo: yeah, a weird nostalgia for *that particular* channel registration, haha
[2021-06-15T20:59:52Z] <noocsharp> well, my pinephone can now make and receive calls
[2021-06-15T20:59:56Z] <noocsharp> basically daily driver ready
[2021-06-15T21:09:53Z] <GalaxyNova> noocsharp: can you use SMS on it?
[2021-06-15T21:12:03Z] <noocsharp> not yet, that's on the todo list
[2021-06-15T21:19:23Z] <kimerus> I think in use a pixel 5 graphene instead pipephone
[2021-06-15T21:19:35Z] <jedavies> noocsharp: what distro are you running on it?
[2021-06-15T21:20:04Z] <kimerus> I see the reviews and is seems to much slow
[2021-06-15T21:20:26Z] <noocsharp> jedavies: my oasis based one
[2021-06-15T21:20:50Z] <omanom> noocsharp any hope for MMS too or is that a stretch goal
[2021-06-15T21:21:53Z] <noocsharp> omanom: i mean i'd like to, but it seems pretty hard
[2021-06-15T21:23:44Z] <omanom> oh for sure, just curious
[2021-06-15T21:25:23Z] <noocsharp> if the actual competent modemmanager/ofono people are having a hard time with it, i'm not sure i'll be able to do it
[2021-06-15T21:26:37Z] <omanom> #kisslinux has a new default operator on freenode now: http://0x0.st/-LRo.png
[2021-06-15T21:26:51Z] <omanom> they haven't changed the topic at least
[2021-06-15T21:28:12Z] <kiedtl> boy am I glad we moved before all of this
[2021-06-15T21:28:48Z] <omanom> lol the new server i connected to is "evilcorp.freenode.net"
[2021-06-15T21:28:58Z] <kiedtl> that server has been there for a while
[2021-06-15T21:29:06Z] <kiedtl> I don't know what the hell rasengan was thinking when he got that host
[2021-06-15T21:32:55Z] <omanom> s/when he got that host//
[2021-06-15T21:44:45Z] <dilyn> this bullshit is an injustice 
[2021-06-15T21:45:03Z] <acheam> free the freenode!
[2021-06-15T21:45:18Z] <acheam> quick, everyone post a green square on instagram!
[2021-06-15T21:45:35Z] <acheam> oh no
[2021-06-15T21:45:40Z] <acheam> they got 'im
[2021-06-15T21:46:19Z] <kiedtl> https://0x0.st/-L59.txt
[2021-06-15T21:46:34Z] <kiedtl> also https://0x0.st/-LIE.txt
[2021-06-15T21:46:50Z] <kiedtl> I was predicting that freenode would become the sourceforge of IRC but I was wrong :v
[2021-06-15T21:46:54Z] <acheam> i'm not even going to bother reading that
[2021-06-15T21:47:00Z] <acheam> people should just move on imo
[2021-06-15T21:47:48Z] <kiedtl> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2021-06-15T21:47:53Z] <omanom> it comes across as andrew is just dicking around and doesn't actually care what happens.  like his little personal irc playground
[2021-06-15T21:48:03Z] <kiedtl> I just can't stop looking, and my productivity is plummeting as a result
[2021-06-15T22:08:12Z] <midfavila> oh, huh, you ran into l0de
[2021-06-15T22:08:22Z] <midfavila> i didn't realize he hung out on freenode
[2021-06-15T22:08:36Z] <claudia02> I have sucessfully build the kiss-llvm toolchain. 
[2021-06-15T22:09:35Z] <claudia02> One last thing from binutils remains, the 'as'. Does wyverkiss has a substitution for it and Which package provides it?
[2021-06-15T22:17:33Z] <dilyn> it's provided by llvm
[2021-06-15T22:17:35Z] <dilyn> it's llvm-as
[2021-06-15T22:23:23Z] <midfavila> for anyone who uses my repo, SDF's git certificate appears to have been updated
[2021-06-15T22:23:31Z] <midfavila> updates should go through now
[2021-06-15T22:26:36Z] <GalaxyNova> windows 11 was leaked
[2021-06-15T22:26:38Z] <GalaxyNova> kek
[2021-06-15T22:26:47Z] <midfavila> wait what
[2021-06-15T22:27:01Z] <midfavila> a friend of mine messaged me that he was going to install it but I thought he meant that memey Linux distro
[2021-06-15T22:27:09Z] <GalaxyNova> no its real
[2021-06-15T22:27:12Z] <GalaxyNova> and it looks like shit
[2021-06-15T22:28:31Z] <midfavila> pix?
[2021-06-15T22:29:19Z] <GalaxyNova> midfavila: here's a video https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/o0jj8b/unreleased_windows_11_iso_video/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
[2021-06-15T22:30:06Z] <GalaxyNova> there's also lots of videos covering it on youtube
[2021-06-15T22:30:12Z] <GalaxyNova> it's a legitimate leak
[2021-06-15T22:30:33Z] <midfavila> ...ew, what the fuck
[2021-06-15T22:30:39Z] <midfavila> this is cancer
[2021-06-15T22:30:54Z] <GalaxyNova> hey at least the live tiles are gone
[2021-06-15T22:31:31Z] <midfavila> at least win8 let you use a different shell if you wanted..
[2021-06-15T22:31:48Z] <midfavila> definitely not going to be using windows 
[2021-06-15T22:32:08Z] <GalaxyNova> honestly I like the new design
[2021-06-15T22:32:15Z] <GalaxyNova> here's a longer video https://youtu.be/VMHgM_hTzlw
[2021-06-15T22:32:52Z] <GalaxyNova> it looks more polished and modern
[2021-06-15T22:32:58Z] <midfavila> it looks like a piece of shit
[2021-06-15T22:33:13Z] <midfavila> the only good thing about windows is that its UI *doesn't* change
[2021-06-15T22:33:26Z] <midfavila> you have the taskbar, the startmenu, and the desktop. 
[2021-06-15T22:33:30Z] <GalaxyNova> well Microsoft has been constantily changing it since windows 8
[2021-06-15T22:33:39Z] <midfavila> and every single time it's been a mistake.
[2021-06-15T22:34:04Z] <GalaxyNova> Hopefully they don't do forced upgrades like they did with windows 10
[2021-06-15T22:34:06Z] <midfavila> the application launcher looks like a fuckin android UI...
[2021-06-15T22:34:07Z] <dilyn> we expected no different opinion from mid
[2021-06-15T22:34:13Z] <GalaxyNova> lol
[2021-06-15T22:34:49Z] <GalaxyNova> probably uses 4 gigabytes of ram just to boot
[2021-06-15T22:35:49Z] <dilyn> the last time they dared to modify the start menu the internet shit itself so hard microsoft is still hearing shit for it 
[2021-06-15T22:35:51Z] <dilyn> gl msft
[2021-06-15T22:36:03Z] <midfavila> *seriously*
[2021-06-15T22:36:13Z] <dilyn> my only question is will it show me ads for candy crush
[2021-06-15T22:36:13Z] <midfavila> win 9x was the best UI they had. most importantly, it was consistent
[2021-06-15T22:36:23Z] <midfavila> and of course it will, dilyn
[2021-06-15T22:36:31Z] <midfavila> you'll have to watch a five-second ad before you can log in
[2021-06-15T22:36:34Z] <dilyn> again, we wouldn't expect any other different answer from you mid 
[2021-06-15T22:36:59Z] <GalaxyNova> midfavila: ew windows 9x UI was wayy to modern for me
[2021-06-15T22:37:02Z] <GalaxyNova> use DOS or nothing
[2021-06-15T22:37:08Z] <midfavila> consistent UX is more important than "modern" aesthetics.
[2021-06-15T22:37:37Z] <noocsharp> for some reason the settings window is missing the close/minimize buttons... and it had them like 3 months ago
[2021-06-15T22:37:51Z] <noocsharp> thanks msft
[2021-06-15T22:38:00Z] <midfavila> Modern:tm: and Redesigned:tm:
[2021-06-15T22:38:11Z] <dilyn> yeah and it looks super good
[2021-06-15T22:38:51Z] <midfavila> If you say so.
[2021-06-15T22:39:16Z] <dilyn> looks like they've borrowed features from KDE and dmenu/spotlight 
[2021-06-15T22:39:19Z] <midfavila> At least they have pages now.
[2021-06-15T22:39:19Z] <noocsharp> and if you open the file manager, 2 different documents folders appear right next to each other
[2021-06-15T22:39:20Z] <GalaxyNova> reminds me of KDE actually
[2021-06-15T22:39:21Z] <dilyn> this is sleek
[2021-06-15T22:39:23Z] <claudia02> dilyn, so binutils can just be removed? I do not onderstand the readme clearly when it says ".. use kiss a to switch to the llvm counterparts, except as."
[2021-06-15T22:39:38Z] <dilyn> because no 'as' is provided; it's just llvm-as
[2021-06-15T22:39:44Z] <dilyn> but yeah you don't need binutils 
[2021-06-15T22:39:48Z] <dilyn> i mean
[2021-06-15T22:39:53Z] <claudia02> gotcha.
[2021-06-15T22:39:55Z] <dilyn> make sure you have llvm-as first
[2021-06-15T22:39:56Z] <dilyn> lol
[2021-06-15T22:39:58Z] <GalaxyNova> isn't readelf used extensively in kiss?
[2021-06-15T22:40:05Z] <claudia02> yes its there and happy building (:
[2021-06-15T22:40:09Z] <dilyn> you might need gnu-as, though 
[2021-06-15T22:40:19Z] <dilyn> (which is just binutils as) 
[2021-06-15T22:40:25Z] <dilyn> which is in the wyverkiss repo
[2021-06-15T22:40:27Z] <claudia02> yes this I got already.
[2021-06-15T22:40:53Z] <dilyn> you only need it for a few things, namely firefox and nss (if you want intel optimizations)
[2021-06-15T22:41:32Z] <dilyn> GalaxyNova: readelf is also provided by llvm
[2021-06-15T22:41:50Z] <GalaxyNova> ah nice
[2021-06-15T22:42:13Z] <dilyn> yeah. llvm is absolutely massive :v 
[2021-06-15T22:42:36Z] <claudia02> I try to build webkit now(without binutils(gnu-as)s
[2021-06-15T22:42:36Z] <GalaxyNova> from my experience it takes ages to compile
[2021-06-15T22:42:40Z] <GalaxyNova> llvm i mean
[2021-06-15T22:42:57Z] <dilyn> all you need is 24 cores and you'll build it in less than 20 minutes (: 
[2021-06-15T22:44:24Z] <claudia02> If I would not have a seperate machine in another room I would definately not play with this.
[2021-06-15T22:44:45Z] <GalaxyNova> wht not
[2021-06-15T22:44:58Z] <midfavila> i see that MS is still trying to force people to sign up for an account
[2021-06-15T22:45:04Z] <midfavila> very cool
[2021-06-15T22:45:29Z] <GalaxyNova> yes
[2021-06-15T22:45:41Z] <GalaxyNova> i think they deleted the option for an offline account
[2021-06-15T22:45:51Z] <GalaxyNova> so now you are forced to use their microsoft account to use windows
[2021-06-15T22:46:00Z] * midfavila grimaces
[2021-06-15T22:46:54Z] <midfavila> do they at least have minesweeper again
[2021-06-15T22:47:03Z] <GalaxyNova> but hey you get mOdERn uI
[2021-06-15T22:47:07Z] <noocsharp> tbh minesweeper is all windows is good for
[2021-06-15T22:47:12Z] <midfavila> gaymin
[2021-06-15T22:47:15Z] <GalaxyNova> they don't even have minesweeper
[2021-06-15T22:47:24Z] <noocsharp> and pinball
[2021-06-15T22:47:25Z] <GalaxyNova> unless you sign in with an xbox account
[2021-06-15T22:47:36Z] <GalaxyNova> and seel your soul to bill gates
[2021-06-15T22:47:44Z] <midfavila> billy g
[2021-06-15T22:48:02Z] <dilyn> if you aren't connected to the internet during install you can bypass creating an account 
[2021-06-15T22:48:10Z] <midfavila> that doesn't matter
[2021-06-15T22:48:16Z] <dilyn> eyeroll
[2021-06-15T22:48:19Z] <dilyn> sure
[2021-06-15T22:48:24Z] <dilyn> it *is* shitty
[2021-06-15T22:48:27Z] <midfavila> i shouldn't have to create a microsoft account just to use my PC. whether it's connected to the net or not.
[2021-06-15T22:48:30Z] <dilyn> but for anyone INTERESTED
[2021-06-15T22:48:46Z] <midfavila> anyone interested is just going to use one of those deshittification scripts
[2021-06-15T22:49:03Z] <dilyn> smh
[2021-06-15T22:49:22Z] <noocsharp> it's also hard to ignore the fact that windows is literal spyware
[2021-06-15T22:49:34Z] <GalaxyNova> midfavila: that's not going to stop microsoft if they have some kind of spooky kernel level spyware
[2021-06-15T22:49:49Z] <GalaxyNova> which they probably have
[2021-06-15T22:49:53Z] <midfavila> if you're using windows because you want security, you have bigger problems than your lack of technical sense...
[2021-06-15T22:50:39Z] <m3g> Leaked WXP SC + a wine fork to make a proper layer
[2021-06-15T22:50:45Z] <GalaxyNova> I do quite enjoy their new icon theme
[2021-06-15T22:50:50Z] <GalaxyNova> reminds me of breeze theme
[2021-06-15T22:52:55Z] <midfavila> i was reading about Multics the other day... apparently it was actually deployed
[2021-06-15T22:53:02Z] <midfavila> and in some pretty high-security environments, too
[2021-06-15T23:13:25Z] <acheam> those of you who autolaunch tmux/dvtm in a terminal: how do you deal with the sessions just piling up
[2021-06-15T23:14:16Z] <acheam> like, I have 36 ash sessions running according to htop
[2021-06-15T23:14:29Z] <riteo> ok so, I tried windows 11
[2021-06-15T23:14:41Z] <riteo> It seriously feels like a weird linux distro
[2021-06-15T23:14:56Z] <riteo> I'm not joking, have you seen the new default win32 theme? Looks straight out of gtk
[2021-06-15T23:15:07Z] <GalaxyNova> lol
[2021-06-15T23:15:10Z] <GalaxyNova> download link?
[2021-06-15T23:15:24Z] <riteo> I got a magnet cause my stupid ass crashed while downloading from mega and capped
[2021-06-15T23:15:33Z] <riteo> mega or torrent?
[2021-06-15T23:15:40Z] <GalaxyNova> mega
[2021-06-15T23:15:48Z] <GalaxyNova> in case my isp goes crazy
[2021-06-15T23:15:57Z] <riteo> can I- can I post it there?
[2021-06-15T23:16:03Z] <riteo> I mean here?
[2021-06-15T23:16:13Z] <GalaxyNova> idk
[2021-06-15T23:16:14Z] <riteo> just to be sure
[2021-06-15T23:16:18Z] <GalaxyNova> post it
[2021-06-15T23:16:46Z] <claudia02> wont u do this in private?
[2021-06-15T23:16:56Z] <GalaxyNova> that would be a great idea
[2021-06-15T23:17:01Z] <claudia02> This is a logged chanel after all
[2021-06-15T23:17:01Z] <GalaxyNova> if i would know how to private message on irc
[2021-06-15T23:17:02Z] <riteo> I mean, I got linked the library genesis here
[2021-06-15T23:17:15Z] <riteo> dilyn: can we do this?
[2021-06-15T23:17:47Z] <GalaxyNova> i guess it's safer to take it to PMs
[2021-06-15T23:17:55Z] <riteo> ok
[2021-06-15T23:17:55Z] <riteo> how
[2021-06-15T23:18:06Z] <acheam>  /msg GalaxyNova 
[2021-06-15T23:18:09Z] <GalaxyNova> you can use /msg <username> <message>
[2021-06-15T23:18:20Z] <claudia02> I mean if u take drugs, thats ok but dont do it in front of the kids.
[2021-06-15T23:18:29Z] <GalaxyNova> LOL
[2021-06-15T23:18:35Z] * acheam puts his hands over midfavila's eyes
[2021-06-15T23:18:35Z] <riteo> it says that I have to log in
[2021-06-15T23:18:48Z] <riteo> we'll have to do it in front of everyone I guess
[2021-06-15T23:18:48Z] <acheam>  /msg nickserv help
[2021-06-15T23:18:48Z] <GalaxyNova> don't you have a registered nick?
[2021-06-15T23:18:53Z] <riteo> no?
[2021-06-15T23:18:56Z] <GalaxyNova> oh
[2021-06-15T23:19:00Z] <GalaxyNova>  /msg nickserv help
[2021-06-15T23:19:04Z] <GalaxyNova> and create an account
[2021-06-15T23:19:12Z] <GalaxyNova> it's good to have a registered account anyway
[2021-06-15T23:21:01Z] * midfavila flails
[2021-06-15T23:21:04Z] <riteo> I think I did it
[2021-06-15T23:21:07Z] <midfavila> Unhand me, creature
[2021-06-15T23:21:12Z] <riteo> can we do drugs now?
[2021-06-15T23:21:24Z] <riteo> would you guys mind if we did them here?
[2021-06-15T23:21:30Z] <GalaxyNova> drugs bad
[2021-06-15T23:21:38Z] <riteo> I see
[2021-06-15T23:22:10Z] <midfavila> people always say "drugs are bad"
[2021-06-15T23:22:15Z] <midfavila> but nobody ever says "drugs why bad?"
[2021-06-15T23:22:48Z] <riteo> did it
[2021-06-15T23:23:02Z] <riteo> goodbye guys, it's been nice talking with you
[2021-06-15T23:23:19Z] <riteo> I have no idea whether it was against any ToS
[2021-06-15T23:23:36Z] <riteo> but I mean, we talked about the genesis library sooo, maybe I'm fine?
[2021-06-15T23:23:50Z] <GalaxyNova> I honestly think we're fine
[2021-06-15T23:23:53Z] <GalaxyNova> it's not piracy
[2021-06-15T23:24:14Z] <riteo> it's just running confidential development copies of paid software 
[2021-06-15T23:24:27Z] <GalaxyNova> basically yeah xD
[2021-06-15T23:24:55Z] <riteo> acheam: you can unblind mid
[2021-06-15T23:25:12Z] <riteo> now
[2021-06-15T23:25:48Z] <riteo> now I'm seriously scared for my account, I've even registered it with my email address
[2021-06-15T23:25:53Z] <riteo> my PAID email address
[2021-06-15T23:26:22Z] <riteo> time to read libera chat's ToS
[2021-06-15T23:27:19Z] <riteo> you know what
[2021-06-15T23:27:22Z] <riteo> this never happened
[2021-06-15T23:27:29Z] <acheam> lol your fine
[2021-06-15T23:27:46Z] <riteo> actually I think you're right
[2021-06-15T23:28:09Z] <riteo> what are they gonna say? YOU DOWNLOADED WINDWOS 11!!!!!111
[2021-06-15T23:28:20Z] <riteo> THAT'S LILEGAL!!1!!!11
[2021-06-15T23:28:24Z] <GalaxyNova> lmao
[2021-06-15T23:28:56Z] <riteo> I really gotta send you some pictures, it's crazy
[2021-06-15T23:29:37Z] <riteo> oh my fucking god
[2021-06-15T23:29:51Z] <riteo> I deleted 1(one) shortcut and like 3 cmds popped on my screen
[2021-06-15T23:30:00Z] <GalaxyNova> welcome to windows
[2021-06-15T23:30:23Z] <acheam> its a beta version of the most complex os ever, even in the release version there are bugs aplenty
[2021-06-15T23:30:32Z] <acheam> but tbh idk at all
[2021-06-15T23:30:33Z] <GalaxyNova> and from my knoledge of Microsoft I can guarantee that it WONT be getting better in the release
[2021-06-15T23:30:38Z] <acheam> s/idk/idc/g
[2021-06-15T23:30:51Z] <acheam> proprietary garbagio
[2021-06-15T23:31:00Z] <soliwilos> Your computer is likely screaming in binary for what you have done.. :p
[2021-06-15T23:32:17Z] <riteo> wew I'm finally unstuck from my qemu trap
[2021-06-15T23:32:31Z] <riteo> I swear I saw this thing happen on my teachers' pc too
[2021-06-15T23:32:39Z] <riteo> I thought it was some school software doing some weird thing but not
[2021-06-15T23:32:42Z] <riteo> s/not/no/
[2021-06-15T23:33:19Z] <GalaxyNova> riteo: your teacher was running windows 11 in a qemu virtual machine?
[2021-06-15T23:33:25Z] <riteo> no lol
[2021-06-15T23:33:37Z] <riteo> on a windows 10 PC IIRC
[2021-06-15T23:33:55Z] <riteo> I can't fucking believe it
[2021-06-15T23:34:05Z] <riteo> my ALARMS AND CLOCK program automatically updated itself
[2021-06-15T23:34:21Z] <riteo> imagine running a end-of-may build and having to update your CLOCK
[2021-06-15T23:34:37Z] <riteo> the more I use this build the more I'm losing my mind
[2021-06-15T23:36:12Z] <sad_plan> firefox is still failing for me when trying to build with pgo and lto. says profileserver.py returned non-zero exit status 245
[2021-06-15T23:36:16Z] <sad_plan> heres the log https://0x0.st/-LRm.txt
[2021-06-15T23:39:54Z] <GalaxyNova> sad_plan: did you install pciutils?
[2021-06-15T23:40:05Z] <dilyn> that's a separate thing 
[2021-06-15T23:40:06Z] <GalaxyNova> and did you install video drivers?
[2021-06-15T23:40:45Z] <sad_plan> no i havent. and yes I have video drivers installed.
[2021-06-15T23:40:57Z] <dilyn> or oh, hm that's interesting 
[2021-06-15T23:41:16Z] <GalaxyNova> well the build script is complaining about pciutils missing
[2021-06-15T23:41:25Z] <GalaxyNova> install the package and see if it works
[2021-06-15T23:41:34Z] <dilyn> it looks like it may very well need it for graphics profiling, which is strange 
[2021-06-15T23:42:00Z] <sad_plan> hm, ill build it and retry for firefox
[2021-06-15T23:42:44Z] <riteo> guys would you like to see some pictures of what I mean that it looks like a weird linux distro?
[2021-06-15T23:42:55Z] <GalaxyNova> sure
[2021-06-15T23:43:02Z] <riteo> would you like them in hi-res?
[2021-06-15T23:43:21Z] <sad_plan> go for it. and yeah., highres is great
[2021-06-15T23:43:37Z] <riteo> gimme just a sec to snap some other photos and I'll send them to you