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2021-03-26T00:46:29 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Looks like k1ss.org was grabbed by a spammer :((
2021-03-26T00:46:39 #kisslinux <kiedtl> s/spammer/phishing-thingy/
2021-03-26T00:46:41 #kisslinux <kissbot> <kiedtl> Looks like k1ss.org was grabbed by a phishing-thingy :((
2021-03-26T00:49:39 #kisslinux <jslick> ughhh... that's like... worst possible outcome?
2021-03-26T00:50:11 #kisslinux <kiedtl> bEfOrE yOu CoNtInUe tO k1ss.org
2021-03-26T00:50:16 #kisslinux <kiedtl> like
2021-03-26T00:50:20 #kisslinux <kiedtl> fucking satan, yeah
2021-03-26T01:11:06 #kisslinux <konimex> E5ten: that's what I've been wondering
2021-03-26T01:19:01 #kisslinux <omanom> anyone else having issues building the newest xfsprogs?
2021-03-26T01:22:17 #kisslinux <omanom> v5.11.0
2021-03-26T01:26:09 #kisslinux <omanom> my log: http://ix.io/2U6Q
2021-03-26T01:29:53 #kisslinux <E5ten> looks like include/xfs/linux.h should be including signal.h but isn't
2021-03-26T01:35:04 #kisslinux <omanom> am i correct in thinking that's an xfs problem and it's not my fault somehow?
2021-03-26T01:35:08 #kisslinux <E5ten> omanom: ok I figured it out, on glibc sys/param.h includes signal.h, but on musl it doesn't, so they must be (either intentionally or not) relying on that indirect signal.h include
2021-03-26T01:35:09 #kisslinux <E5ten> yeah
2021-03-26T01:35:20 #kisslinux <E5ten> it's a "they didn't check if this works with musl" thing
2021-03-26T01:35:21 #kisslinux <omanom> ok phew
2021-03-26T01:35:30 #kisslinux <E5ten> they're using signal.h decls/macros, so they need to include signal.h
2021-03-26T01:36:04 #kisslinux <E5ten> temporary patch to get it building should just be adding #include <signal.h> somewhere in the includes in include/xfs/linux.h
2021-03-26T01:36:34 #kisslinux <omanom> well fortunately i have an older version already built and installed so it's not time-sensitive really
2021-03-26T01:37:37 #kisslinux <omanom> not sure why i even have it installed... i don't even use xfs...
2021-03-26T01:37:47 #kisslinux <E5ten> lol nice
2021-03-26T02:33:15 #kisslinux <travankor> xfs is boomer ext4
2021-03-26T02:51:03 #kisslinux <acheam> I don't really see the benefits of xfs over ext4
2021-03-26T02:51:09 #kisslinux <acheam> ive heard its a bit fastet
2021-03-26T02:51:38 #kisslinux <acheam> but from what I can tell, not by enough to warrant reducing compatibility
2021-03-26T03:32:05 #kisslinux <guilherme> ...
2021-03-26T03:32:20 #kisslinux <guilherme> just downloaded birch!
2021-03-26T06:14:57 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> hi
2021-03-26T07:45:50 #kisslinux <protonesso> Hail stallman
2021-03-26T07:46:14 #kisslinux <travankor> protonesso: join #free-rms
2021-03-26T07:46:27 #kisslinux <protonesso> Thanks
2021-03-26T09:53:54 #kisslinux <travankor> https://0x0.st/-qUJ.png
2021-03-26T10:19:32 #kisslinux <xaltsc> Hey, anyone here managed to get bt speakers work with sndio (via bluez) ?
2021-03-26T10:20:08 #kisslinux <travankor> hey, OpenBSD doesn't support BT :p
2021-03-26T10:20:33 #kisslinux <travankor> so might have to hack the code if you want that
2021-03-26T10:55:42 #kisslinux <Sheldon> HI guys
2021-03-26T11:26:30 #kisslinux <kiedtl> >HI GUISE
2021-03-26T11:26:35 #kisslinux <kiedtl> *quits two minutes later*
2021-03-26T11:26:38 #kisslinux <kiedtl> lol
2021-03-26T11:26:42 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Also hello all
2021-03-26T11:36:41 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> hi
2021-03-26T11:58:49 #kisslinux <kiedtl> hi
2021-03-26T12:18:56 #kisslinux <jedavies> Doing "rustc --target powerpc64le-unknown-linux-musl" fails with "No available targets are compatible with triple "powerpc64le-unknown-linux-musl"".
2021-03-26T12:19:01 #kisslinux <jedavies> But I see that target listed when I do "rustc --print target-list", and the backend is present in "llc --version". What am I doing wrong?
2021-03-26T12:34:59 #kisslinux <konimex> looking from https://doc.rust-lang.org/nightly/rustc/platform-support.html, ppc64le is tier 3 (codebase support, but no official tests or builds) so they have no official bootstrap? are you trying cross-compile?
2021-03-26T13:02:31 #kisslinux <jedavies> Yeah, on x86_64 using your tarball to bootstrap. Gets towards the end of stage1 on the powerpc build then fails configuring openssl with that error.
2021-03-26T13:07:30 #kisslinux <jedavies> https://pastebin.com/5YWuWtjT
2021-03-26T14:12:37 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> having some trouble with building gdk-pixbuf... kind of looks like i have a meson/ninja issue? http://ix.io/2Ua8
2021-03-26T14:14:33 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> hm or more accurately a msgfmt problem i guess
2021-03-26T14:18:20 #kisslinux <dilyn> I can't tell if this RMS open letter image is ironic or not
2021-03-26T14:20:08 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> rms open letter or rms support letter
2021-03-26T14:20:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> this thing https://0x0.st/-qUJ.png
2021-03-26T14:20:37 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> oh
2021-03-26T14:21:32 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> probably is
2021-03-26T14:27:32 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> https://nitter.snopyta.org/torproject/status/1374754834050654212
2021-03-26T14:30:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> #endtheFSF
2021-03-26T14:31:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's gonna be interesting to see how this one plays out
2021-03-26T14:31:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> 2021 startin' off with a bang
2021-03-26T14:48:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> ominous: I can't reproduce; would you... happen to have gettext related things installed?
2021-03-26T14:49:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> Like for some reason you have this file: File "/usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/mesonbuild/scripts/gettext.py
2021-03-26T14:49:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> which is importing some other file
2021-03-26T14:49:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> which is having issues
2021-03-26T14:52:00 #kisslinux <dilyn> you could probably escape the issue by adding `sed -i '/subdir('po')/d' meson.build` at the beginning of the build file
2021-03-26T15:20:11 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> it was a gettext issue
2021-03-26T15:20:55 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i had two versions installed, one i packaged myself and one that came from midfavila's ports (based on gettext-tiny in sabotage linux). once i switched it using the alternatives, gdk-pixbuf built fine
2021-03-26T15:22:35 #kisslinux <dilyn> figured :)
2021-03-26T15:23:34 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> still having a problem building falkon (it fails on building qt5-webengine) so i figured id get lariza up
2021-03-26T15:24:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> qt5-webengine is my small hell
2021-03-26T15:26:22 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> yeah i figured if lariza built fine i wouldn't have to deal with it :)
2021-03-26T15:53:26 #kisslinux <kiedtl> >2021 startin' off with a bang
2021-03-26T15:53:34 #kisslinux <kiedtl> 1/4 of 2021 already's over
2021-03-26T15:54:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> SHUSH
2021-03-26T16:19:04 #kisslinux <acheam> uh
2021-03-26T16:19:06 #kisslinux <acheam> no
2021-03-26T16:19:23 #kisslinux <acheam> I shall live in blissful ignorance
2021-03-26T16:33:04 #kisslinux <konimex> jedavies: if you're using the tarball from wyvertux/rust-build, it might be caused by my tarball perhaps, since I did build it targeting x86_64 specifically (and the libLLVM is static, so it might be tied to that, but I'm not sure about this)
2021-03-26T16:37:27 #kisslinux <jedavies> konimex: looks like you're correct. I tried again using a rustc I had built which linked against my local llvm. That worked OK. "x.py dist" is nearly done now.
2021-03-26T16:42:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> so I could not get void's patch to work for firefox to disable minidump
2021-03-26T16:44:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> so instead I'll be attempting to use the patch supplied on https://github.com/msirringhaus/minidump_writer_linux/issues/4 while I continue to investigate
2021-03-26T16:44:45 #kisslinux <konimex> dilyn: Void's patch lacks two newlines with spaces
2021-03-26T16:44:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> omf does it actually
2021-03-26T16:45:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> I have been staring at this text for so long
2021-03-26T16:45:55 #kisslinux <konimex> yep, I've added the two spaces here https://github.com/wyvertux/wyverkiss/blob/master/extra/firefox/patches/disable-minidump.patch
2021-03-26T16:46:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> AH
2021-03-26T16:46:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> see I took a peak to see if you'd done it but that was TWELVE hours ago xd
2021-03-26T16:46:47 #kisslinux <konimex> ...so for some reason gnu patch *must've* accepted it and busybox patch silently ignoring it
2021-03-26T16:47:46 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah it kept not applying. Usually I do it myself when that happens, but I guess I just never copied it over? which only further contributed to my insantiy
2021-03-26T16:47:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> s/insantiy/insanity
2021-03-26T16:47:52 #kisslinux <kissbot> <dilyn> yeah it kept not applying. Usually I do it myself when that happens, but I guess I just never copied it over? which only further contributed to my insanity
2021-03-26T16:48:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> gnu patch is a very forgiving patch, and that has made patchers lazy :|
2021-03-26T16:48:54 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Just goes to show that the principle "Be liberal in what you accept" isn't a very good idea
2021-03-26T16:51:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> :)
2021-03-26T16:51:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> now I can try to figure out what is wrong with libva and chromium! hooray
2021-03-26T17:05:42 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc_> busybox patch is just broken, it can't handle no fuzz at all
2021-03-26T17:06:21 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc_> it only works iff the patch was made from the exact same codebase you're trying to patch against
2021-03-26T17:12:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> :|
2021-03-26T17:12:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> gotta love it
2021-03-26T17:23:11 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc_> my statically linked gnu patch is 164 KB, quite OK imo
2021-03-26T17:23:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> still gnu tho
2021-03-26T17:23:45 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc_> ofc it would be nicer if busybox patch worked well, but it's really hard to make fuzz work well
2021-03-26T17:24:09 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc_> it's only gnu in name, written by larry wall (perl author)
2021-03-26T17:25:52 #kisslinux <dilyn> now i'm even more conflicted about it
2021-03-26T17:26:16 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc_> lol
2021-03-26T17:26:31 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc_> larry wall is actually a quite good coder
2021-03-26T17:40:22 #kisslinux <kiedtl> dilyn: just curious, what do you have against gnu software in general?
2021-03-26T17:42:16 #kisslinux <dilyn> quick and easy partial answer is that I don't like GNU's general attitude about much of anything
2021-03-26T17:42:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> my problem with GNU isn't unique to them though; it extends to many niche groups/projects
2021-03-26T17:43:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> there are probably a few other problems with them I've developed over the last decade and a half but I decided to forget them and just remember the conclusion I drew xD the 'why' became unimportant (since 2006 y'all have been the first people to ask for the why)
2021-03-26T17:50:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> re firefox: update, builds with the patch + without gtk+2, cannot test if it launches :v
2021-03-26T17:53:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> we'll use repo-bin to test it! a good inaugural pkg. if somebody wouldn't mind downloading the pkg once I've uploaded it and letting me know if it's borked, that would be fantastic
2021-03-26T17:54:05 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> why can't you launch it ?
2021-03-26T17:54:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> wayland
2021-03-26T17:54:20 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> oh
2021-03-26T17:54:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> and my harddrive has undergone a restructuring, and my KDE partition I would normally use is not available haha
2021-03-26T17:54:41 #kisslinux <acheam> consider this my official resignation of any ties I may still have to repo-bin
2021-03-26T17:54:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> XD
2021-03-26T17:55:02 #kisslinux <acheam> (not because of your decision)
2021-03-26T17:55:07 #kisslinux <acheam> just because I don't have the time
2021-03-26T17:55:21 #kisslinux <acheam> i've been saying "I'll do it this weekend" for the last 3 months
2021-03-26T17:55:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> understandable
2021-03-26T17:55:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> hard same
2021-03-26T17:55:39 #kisslinux <dilyn> yesterday I had six things I wanted to do, and I ended up having zero time
2021-03-26T17:58:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> I need to get all these things wrapped up tonight because I'll be awol saturday
2021-03-26T18:05:05 #kisslinux <dilyn> https://github.com/kiss-community/repo-bin/releases/tag/ff-87.0
2021-03-26T18:05:54 #kisslinux <acheam> you can clearcut the stuff in the repo right now
2021-03-26T18:06:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> I saw it, it's a pretty cute script
2021-03-26T18:06:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> this repo will find its place :v
2021-03-26T18:07:32 #kisslinux <acheam> you might want to write a wrapper script for getting the releases
2021-03-26T18:07:51 #kisslinux <acheam> (and generating them)
2021-03-26T18:08:05 #kisslinux <dilyn> I use gh-cli to push the releases and it lets you use a draft for the notes or w/e
2021-03-26T18:08:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> I'll put something together
2021-03-26T18:08:16 #kisslinux <dilyn> ...soon(tm)
2021-03-26T18:18:06 #kisslinux <claudia02> why is gcc list in firefox-bins depends?
2021-03-26T18:18:16 #kisslinux <claudia02> Isnt that implicit or how its called.
2021-03-26T18:18:33 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> libgcc
2021-03-26T18:18:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> because i took it from kiss-depends, not cat firefox/depends
2021-03-26T18:19:23 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> depends if you use static libgcc flag , otherwise i think it does link to gcc
2021-03-26T18:19:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> i did it this way because it will discourage wyvertux users from stealing my hard work :v
2021-03-26T18:28:46 #kisslinux <claudia02> ah this is not a 'package' but build binary :v
2021-03-26T18:30:04 #kisslinux <dilyn> mmhmm
2021-03-26T18:30:16 #kisslinux <dilyn> i mean it's a kiss pkg
2021-03-26T22:32:55 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> All hail busybox init.
2021-03-26T22:46:41 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> and then I disconnect, neat
2021-03-26T22:47:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> XD
2021-03-26T22:47:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> why the praise?
2021-03-26T22:53:50 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> Because unnested pids
2021-03-26T22:54:35 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> I just like it, I guess
2021-03-26T23:16:25 #kisslinux <acheam> its good shit
2021-03-26T23:34:24 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah the fact that busybox init + baseinit can get my system up in 2.5s is pretty neat :o
2021-03-26T23:35:55 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> I just wished I understood acpid a bit better
2021-03-26T23:39:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> busybox's acpid is... not fun
2021-03-26T23:41:54 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> I tried understanding why I couldn't make it work
2021-03-26T23:42:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> there's a scant wiki section on it
2021-03-26T23:44:08 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> ...scant?...
2021-03-26T23:44:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> very minimal
2021-03-26T23:44:53 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> oh
2021-03-26T23:45:16 #kisslinux <dilyn> it should be sufficient to give you an idea of how to use it, but there's certainly more work you'd have to do to make it do everything you want
2021-03-26T23:45:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> whereas with acpid2, it basically just amounts to creating a shell scripts with a bunch of simple case statements
2021-03-26T23:45:55 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> I tried replicating the directory structure from other acpid implementations, but I suppose that isn't enough
2021-03-26T23:53:03 #kisslinux <jslick> I gave up on busybox acpid and installed repo-main/extra/acpid
2021-03-26T23:53:39 #kisslinux <dilyn> ^
2021-03-26T23:53:42 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's #easier